1. It won't get any tougher, regardless of who MU plays or where.
2. I thought Stevie was going to get killed out there. Came close twice.
3. I said this during the last game against SJU at MSG. SJU plays aggressively. The fan whips into a frenzy, which fires the team up. Great defensive team. Of course they get calls. Every game all season.
4. Kam needed help.
5. Masterful job by Ejiofor slipping into the space Ben vacated going to help or contest shots. That is what I want Caedin to aspire to. That strong.
6. Ross's F1 changed the flow of the game. Right call. MU never regained their footing.
7. MU will not face a more physical team in the tournament. In a more hostile environment. Phew.
8. Saddle up. Ride or die.
If you could make a "2025 Marquette Killer" in a factory, it would be pretty darn close to Ejiofor, guy just couldn't be stopped.
Rest up and pray for a lucky draw.
Great game by the Johnnies. A little physicality is our weakness.
Gotta rest up and hope for a favorable matchup in the 8/9!
Thought I was prepared for this. I was not.
Up 15 to lose by 16, St John's put us in our place. Team is missing shooters and rebounders. Seemingly you would think this would be an either one for Gold but seems like a neither.
My favorite team in the tourney, MU aside, is whoever SJ is playing.
Also I wouldn't want to play us in the tournament
Last loss of the season.
That 2nd half sucked out all the positivity I had built up over the last couple of weeks. Hope we get a good draw and whatever higher seed in out path gets upset in 1st round. Only way we have a prayer of winning a couple
A couple of things:
We have no answer for Zuby. Give the kid credit.
We got sped up and lost our composure in the 2H.
I wouldn't glean much from this game as far as future tournament success.
50 - 50 on 1 more win before we can move on from this flailing "We peaked in December again" team.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 14, 2025, 08:01:39 PMGreat game by the Johnnies. A little physicality is our weakness.
Gotta rest up and hope for a favorable matchup in the 8/9!
Let's hear your explanation why we're an 8 instead of a 7.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 14, 2025, 08:03:30 PMThat 2nd half sucked out all the positivity I had built up over the last couple of weeks. Hope we get a good draw and whatever higher seed in out path gets upset in 1st round. Only way we have a prayer of winning a couple
Don't be so f'n soft.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 14, 2025, 08:03:17 PMLast loss of the season.
I see I have another low knowledge poster to deal with here. List is getting long.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 14, 2025, 08:04:35 PMLet's hear your explanation why we're an 8 instead of a 7.
He doesn't. I've offered a $20 bet we are not an 8. He just likes saying it.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 14, 2025, 08:02:44 PMMy favorite team in the tourney, MU aside, is whoever SJ is playing.
Also I wouldn't want to play us in the tournament
Pretty sure St John's would. Or is it impossible beat a team 4 times in a season.
St John is losing to a clean, three point shooting 15 seed.
There's no doubt in my mind.
Quote from: fjm on March 14, 2025, 08:06:06 PMHe doesn't. I've offered a $20 bet we are not an 8. He just likes saying it.
Oh, I know.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 14, 2025, 08:04:35 PMLet's hear your explanation why we're an 8 instead of a 7.
Just looking at Bracket Matrix it's a very even split between 8s and 7s. We are currently the last 7 with UConn and Creighton right behind us and one of them has to win today.
Also have to think the committee could favor Gonzaga because they are Gonzaga and then Memphis is still playing for a Conference Title. Either of those 2 could pass us as well.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 14, 2025, 08:05:46 PMI see I have another low knowledge poster to deal with here. List is getting long.
Yeah...you're soft.
Smart people aren't afraid to change their minds and hopefully this season changed Shakas. He doesn't have enough help on this team for Kam. The recruit and develop strategy can't have any misses...and Ben and Tre are misses. Too many young guys just not ready like some of our past freshman were.
You need to use the portal to at least add a piece to your team. We wont have total portal teams fine, but it looks like the future. St John's beat us 3 times and tonight just rolled us
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 14, 2025, 08:07:12 PMSt John is losing to a clean, three point shooting 15 seed.
There's no doubt in my mind.
When they run into the first crew who officiates basketball like most of the world officiates basketball, they'll be in trouble
Quote from: warriors141 on March 14, 2025, 08:09:25 PMSmart people aren't afraid to change their minds and hopefully this season changed Shakas. He doesn't have enough help on this team for Kam. The recruit and develop strategy can't have any misses...and Ben and Tre are misses. Too many young guys just not ready like some of our past freshman were.
You need to use the portal to at least add a piece to your team. We wont have total portal teams fine, but it looks like the future. St John's beat us 3 times and tonight just rolled us
LOL
Scoopers hack on Willie, but he's not incorrect. MU needs shooters and bangers. Shaka is a bright guy, hopefully that's what we'll have next season.
Gold was out there just getting cardio.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 14, 2025, 08:08:01 PMJust looking at Bracket Matrix it's a very even split between 8s and 7s. We are currently the last 7 with UConn and Creighton right behind us and one of them has to win today.
Also have to think the committee could favor Gonzaga because they are Gonzaga and then Memphis is still playing for a Conference Title. Either of those 2 could pass us as well.
Won't matter unless one of them beats St. John's tomorrow.
Nothing bummed me out more tonight than watching Gold play as if he didn't belong. I'm just not sure he's the player Shaka thinks he is.
Quote from: Viper on March 14, 2025, 08:11:29 PMScoopers hack on Willie, but he's not incorrect. MU needs shooters and bangers. Shaka is a bright guy, hopefully that's what we'll have next season.
You haven't figured out yet that willie complains about everything, so he's bound to be right occasionally. That's not exactly insight.
I wouldn't overstate the flagrant foul. It was a bad turn of events, but MU had chances. SJU is better than MU. They're bigger, stronger, and faster.
Lowery was good off the bench and may finally be a guard who takes it to the hoop with strength. Parham cannot play the 5 next year. He'll be solid at the 4. Need someone else to back-up Gold.
Joplin can't keep up with SJU's players. He was a TO machine tonight.
Gold wasn't responsible for many of Zuby's points but Gold was too invisible.
MU has a lot of limitations. They play a shooting guard who can't shoot, an undersized power forward who can't jump, and only one player who creates off the bounce. They have three starters who can barely dunk the ball. They aren't as good as last year, but the whole is definitely better than the sum of the parts.
On to the next one.
Quote from: jimmybutlerfanatic on March 14, 2025, 08:04:27 PM50 - 50 on 1 more win before we can move on from this flailing "We peaked in December again" team.
Guy couldn't wait to bump his poll and let everyone know 0-4 was correct. Then we won yesterday and he was MIA. Sad.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 14, 2025, 08:06:43 PMPretty sure St John's would. Or is it impossible beat a team 4 times in a season.
MSU over Bucky 4 times in 2000. Regular season twice, BTT, Final Four
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 14, 2025, 08:12:54 PMNothing bummed me out more tonight than watching Gold play as if he didn't belong. I'm just not sure he's the player Shaka thinks he is.
He is sometimes. The struggle with him, and Joplin really, is bringing it every single night.
We never really know what we are going to get from either of them. But when they are good we are good.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 14, 2025, 08:10:12 PMWhen they run into the first crew who officiates basketball like most of the world officiates basketball, they'll be in trouble
They are built to win the Big East tourney.
Not win games in the Big Dance.
Sadly, these are two very different things.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 14, 2025, 08:12:57 PMExplain to me what is false
Ben is not a "miss".
Next, we're coming off 2 seasons of #2 seeds and have still been in the top 25 all season and comfortably in the tourney. Stop overreacting.
People always refuse to take into account the downside of Shaka pivoting on what he has built this entire culture and program on for a quick fix.
You're the kind of guy that would have been whining to recruit over Tyler, Oso, and Omax after their first year with the program.
Stop being so impatient and soft. Until this approach leads to multiple down years, there is no reason to pivot.
And if this is a down year sign me up for that.
Zog, tie game when it was rightly called. Boat race afterwards. Correlation? Causality? Coincidence? The game changed after it.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 14, 2025, 08:17:19 PMBen is not a "miss".
Next, we're coming off 2 seasons of #2 seeds and have still been in the top 25 all season and comfortably in the tourney. Stop overreacting.
People always refuse to take into account the downside of Shaka pivoting on what he has built this entire culture and program on for a quick fix.
You're the kind of guy that would have been whining to recruit over Tyler, Oso, and Omax after their first year with the program.
Stop being so impatient and soft. Until this approach leads to multiple down years, there is no reason to pivot.
And if this is down year sign me up for that.
Ab-so-f*cking-lutely
SJU isn't the best basketball team in NYC, but they might be the best football team.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 14, 2025, 08:13:46 PMGuy couldn't wait to bump his poll and let everyone know 0-4 was correct. Then we won yesterday and he was MIA. Sad.
Didn't even mention my poll dummy.
I voted 1 - 3 in my poll before the XU game. Try to keep up. I was right.
I'll be right again after the early exit.
Only a basketball mid-wit thinks this team has a NCAA run in them.
Roster construction malpractice. No depth on display yet again with no answers as we get punched in the mouth.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2025, 08:03:40 PMA couple of things:
We have no answer for Zuby. Give the kid credit.
We got sped up and lost our composure in the 2H.
I wouldn't glean much from this game as far as future tournament success.
Except the fact I don't even want to think about a matchup against the frontlines of Houston and Auburn, and other #1 or #2 seeds, which could happen.
6 for 29 from three.
17 turnovers, 6 by Jop
Gold no shots, no points, foul trouble. No shots is insane.
Offense again Kam dribbling around line, and dribbling...
Thought some sequences hurt:
MU up 7, Shaka puts in Norman, not Lowery after Ross number two foul. two minutes later, Norman three fouls and game tied. Maybe just a bad line change, but failed.
The hook and hold foul
MU made nice comeback, got within four and Kam made two putrid passing turnovers leading to five points. ballgame
NCAAT should be interesting, wish them hopeful first rounder opponent.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 14, 2025, 08:17:19 PMBen is not a "miss".
Next, we're coming off 2 seasons of #2 seeds and have still been in the top 25 all season and comfortably in the tourney. Stop overreacting.
People always refuse to take into account the downside of Shaka pivoting on what he has built this entire culture and program on for a quick fix.
You're the kind of guy that would have been whining to recruit over Tyler, Oso, and Omax after their first year with the program.
Stop being so impatient and soft. Until this approach leads to multiple down years, there is no reason to pivot.
And if this is down year sign me up for that.
He's not a miss - but he's definitely not deserving of starters minutes. He's been on a milk carton for half the season.
Quote from: panda2.0 on March 14, 2025, 08:20:06 PMHe's not a miss - but he's definitely not deserving of starters minutes. He's been on a milk carton for half the season.
Looking forward to you being back as Panda 3.0 with more awful takes.
Amidst all the negativity, more confident than ever about Zaide over the next two seasons.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 14, 2025, 08:17:19 PMBen is not a "miss".
Next, we're coming off 2 seasons of #2 seeds and have still been in the top 25 all season and comfortably in the tourney. Stop overreacting.
People always refuse to take into account the downside of Shaka pivoting on what he has built this entire culture and program on for a quick fix.
You're the kind of guy that would have been whining to recruit over Tyler, Oso, and Omax after their first year with the program.
Stop being so impatient and soft. Until this approach leads to multiple down years, there is no reason to pivot.
And if this is a down year sign me up for that.
We will see about next year. Hope you are right and I'm wrong
Anyways, Kam doesn't have enough help and it sucks. I'm sorry, Ben isn't good enough for a high level team. This team is limping to the finish line and that is a big reason why
Quote from: tower912 on March 14, 2025, 08:18:16 PMZog, tie game when it was rightly called. Boat race afterwards. Correlation? Causality? Coincidence? The game changed after it.
It didn't help for sure, but they'd already blown a 15-pt lead. The momentum had swung. I'd say the TOs were bigger issues. Kam's attempted pass to Stevie when Kam had a path to the basket. Joplin with bad TOs all night and particularly when the momentum turned. The number of 3s attempted with poor results. These were all big factors. MU isn't very athletic or physical and SJU makes them pay.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 14, 2025, 08:22:14 PMLooking forward to you being back as Panda 3.0 with more awful takes.
I wish I could count on him next season as he has flashes that make me believe, but then he has games like tonight where he is completely overmatched and a non factor. For a player who sits on the perimeter hunting shots, he needs to shoot the ball much more consistently to earn minutes. But of course there is no front line depth so he gets default minutes.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 14, 2025, 08:24:10 PMWe will see about next year. Hope you are right and I'm wrong
Anyways, Kam doesn't have enough help and it sucks. I'm sorry, Ben isn't good enough for a high level team. This team is limping to the finish line and that is a big reason why
Ben went for 13 and 7 with 2 blocks and 2 steals against St. John's less than a week ago. Was he good enough that day?
His issues or consistency and confidence. I'm more than happy to roll with him next season and you should be, too.
If the team doesn't get good Jop and Gold against high level teams they're not going to win.
Jop had been shooting much better - let's hope tonight was an outlier.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 14, 2025, 08:24:47 PMIt didn't help for sure, but they'd already blown a 15-pt lead. The momentum had swung. I'd say the TOs were bigger issues. Kam's attempted pass to Stevie when Kam had a path to the basket. Joplin with bad TOs all night and particularly when the momentum turned. The number of 3s attempted with poor results. These were all big factors. MU isn't very athletic or physical and SJU makes them pay.
We agree about the turnovers. We agree about SJU's relative physicality. Their defensive ranking is what it is for a reason.
The biggest problem with Jop's offensive game is he's being asked to do things offensively he's not capable of doing. And he's being asked to do them because we have a 2 and a 3 who don't have much offense
We had 6 total assists. Yikes.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2025, 08:33:28 PMWe had 6 total assists. Yikes.
Kam can't pass it to himself.
Our guys were ready to fight. Just completely overwhelmed physically. Glad no injuries. This wasn't the goal. Next week is what matters.
Marquette fanhood has apparently become a test of one's intestinal fortitude.
Scoop can be pretty weird.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 14, 2025, 08:35:39 PMOur guys were ready to fight. Just completely overwhelmed physically. Glad no injuries. This wasn't the goal. Next week is what matters.
Match-ups matter. Hopefully we avoided the 8 line.
Quote from: panda2.0 on March 14, 2025, 08:19:12 PMRoster construction malpractice. No depth on display yet again with no answers as we get punched in the mouth.
I am sure that in a week or 10 days from now, there will be numerous new thread titles about next year's roster, starters, portal stuff, who should leave, etc.
Just wait for then for opinions and buckle your seat belt.....
I have been hard on Ben but lately I saw improvement, but tonight, there center 33 ours not even a shot, hard to believe. Totally weak, and I do not see much different next year, Gold and Parham, together, so soft. Offense is offensive, needs to go to Europe as Dan Hurley said on his 60 minutes interview and learn there offense. Defensively like watching layups and dunks, that double team does not work but Shaka does not change, just man up
I wanna complain the team has forgotten basketball but they came back to beat the good Xavier team. It's sucks bending the knee to these arrogant pitino boys but whatever. On to the "real@ tournament eh?
Kinda buzzed sorry
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2025, 08:39:50 PMMatch-ups matter. Hopefully we avoided the 8 line.
Strongly believe the BET doesn't matter for us. The ink was already dry on the bracket. If we didn't avoid the 8, it wasn't because of this loss.
Quote from: Viper on March 14, 2025, 08:43:36 PMplease explain your LOL. You disagree? Elaborate.
Already did.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 14, 2025, 08:22:14 PMLooking forward to you being back as Panda 3.0 with more awful takes.
says the basement keyboard Queen of awful takes.
Quote from: panda2.0 on March 14, 2025, 08:19:12 PMRoster construction malpractice. No depth on display yet again with no answers as we get punched in the mouth.
Exactly, right? SJU had 3 points off the bench tonight. If we had a bench like that, we would be undefeated.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2025, 08:39:50 PMMatch-ups matter. Hopefully we avoided the 8 line.
Hopefully we get a bracket full of small teams that can't shoot.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 14, 2025, 08:03:17 PMLast loss of the season.
I love Marquette basketball but the chances of this team winning a National Championship are lower than the Pats odds at 28 - 3 down in SB 51. I guess that means there's a modicum of hope. Go Warriors!
Quote from: Viper on March 14, 2025, 08:46:37 PMsays the basement keyboard Queen of awful takes.
Send me another DM, you soft, creepy, thin-skinned snowflake. 🤡
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 14, 2025, 08:27:18 PMBen went for 13 and 7 with 2 blocks and 2 steals against St. John's less than a week ago. Was he good enough that day?
His issues or consistency and confidence. I'm more than happy to roll with him next season and you should be, too.
cherry picking one game. Ben Gold is a backup getting starter minutes. Off the bench he'd be fine. Starting? Pitino, Hurley, Scheyer, Pearl, Self, Izzo...the top guys don't recruit Ben Gold. At Marquette he starts.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 14, 2025, 08:50:59 PMSend me another DM, you soft, creepy, thin-skinned snowflake. 🤡
I'm accessible
Quote from: The Sultan on March 14, 2025, 08:13:11 PMYou haven't figured out yet that willie complains about everything, so he's bound to be right occasionally. That's not exactly insight.
gotta give you that one
With 5-6 minutes to play, Kam was exhausted. Few if any players in the country have as much responsibility, especially if Joplin and Ross are struggling.
Gold and (especially) Jop were disasters today, there's no sugarcoating it. It happens. I mean, Conwell was a disaster against us TWICE during the season but was almost unstoppable yesterday.
We actually recovered ok after the Ross flagrant - 6 1/2 mins later we were only down by 4 (57-53). But then Zuby took over, we missed a bunch of 3s and FTs, committed a couple dumb TOs ... and it was a rout.
We really didn't play well for most of the last 28 minutes, though. I was encouraged after each of our first two games vs StJ; there was little encouraging about this one.
That doesn't mean I'm packing it in for the season. We've seen this team play really well, including in the second half yesterday. Like fans of all but maybe a dozen teams that have legit reason to think they can win it all, I hope we can catch lightning in a bottle for a couple/few weeks.
I'm looking forward to seeing who we play next ... and then who we'll play after winning that one!
Yet another game where we get wasted by a big. There are five positions on a basketball team: 2 guards, 2 forwards, and a center. Shaka doesn't seem to realize this. Our "big", a 6'11" stretch 4, has been AWOL in numerous games, including tonight - no shots, no points, and little in the way of defense.
I appreciate the improvement Ben has made in lateral foot speed and defense. He has played well in many games this year. But you CANNOT have games like tonight when there is an absolute void in the middle.
Don't want to get ahead of my skis but with next year's team starting Ben and Chase, you have to think about who's there. At this point Zaide and Royce seem to have the inside track.
But why can't we have a real big? Someone who could deal with situations like tonight. We don't recruit real bigs, we have projects. Hamilton got schooled in his limited time tonight. We also have Clark and AA.
Unless they surprise me, I think next year is a problem.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 14, 2025, 08:31:49 PMThe biggest problem with Jop's offensive game is he's being asked to do things offensively he's not capable of doing. And he's being asked to do them because we have a 2 and a 3 who don't have much offense
I think this is exactly right. Jop spreads the floor but only Kam is a threat to score.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 14, 2025, 09:10:34 PMYet another game where we get wasted by a big. There are five positions on a basketball team: 2 guards, 2 forwards, and a center. Shaka doesn't seem to realize this. Our "big", a 6'11" stretch 4, has been AWOL in numerous games, including tonight - no shots, no points, and little in the way of defense.
I appreciate the improvement Ben has made in lateral foot speed and defense. He has played well in many games this year. But you CANNOT have games like tonight when there is an absolute void in the middle.
Don't want to get ahead of my skis but with next year's team starting Ben and Chase, you have to think about who's there. At this point Zaide and Royce seem to have the inside track.
But why can't we have a real big? Someone who could deal with situations like tonight. We don't recruit real bigs, we have projects. Hamilton got schooled in his limited time tonight. We also have Clark and AA.
Unless they surprise me, I think next year is a problem.
He had a rough game to put it mildly. He also overhelped on penetration a lot.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2025, 08:37:58 PMMarquette fanhood has apparently become a test of one's intestinal fortitude.
Scoop can be pretty weird.
Agreed, but don't remember you saying as much during the Wojo years.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2025, 09:47:53 PMHe had a rough game to put it mildly. He also overhelped on penetration a lot.
...leaving a shooter wide open. Gotta know and be aware of the situation at hand. The 'feel' for the game doesn't seem to come natural for Gold. Out of position a lot.
Quote from: tower912 on March 14, 2025, 07:58:10 PM1. It won't get any tougher, regardless of who MU plays or where.
2. I thought Stevie was going to get killed out there. Came close twice.
3. I said this during the last game against SJU at MSG. SJU plays aggressively. The fan whips into a frenzy, which fires the team up. Great defensive team. Of course they get calls. Every game all season.
4. Kam needed help.
5. Masterful job by Ejiofor slipping into the space Ben vacated going to help or contest shots. That is what I want Caedin to aspire to. That strong.
6. Ross's F1 changed the flow of the game. Right call. MU never regained their footing.
7. MU will not face a more physical team in the tournament. In a more hostile environment. Phew.
8. Saddle up. Ride or die.
So where are we right now Tower. Saddled up or dieing?
Pretty obvious. What say you?
Quote from: warriors141 on March 14, 2025, 08:09:25 PMSmart people aren't afraid to change their minds and hopefully this season changed Shakas. He doesn't have enough help on this team for Kam. The recruit and develop strategy can't have any misses...and Ben and Tre are misses. Too many young guys just not ready like some of our past freshman were.
You need to use the portal to at least add a piece to your team. We wont have total portal teams fine, but it looks like the future. St John's beat us 3 times and tonight just rolled us
But is Shaka that Smart? Forget the last name Is he?
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 14, 2025, 08:12:54 PMNothing bummed me out more tonight than watching Gold play as if he didn't belong. I'm just not sure he's the player Shaka thinks he is.
And who many on this board think he is. Newsflash. He isnt
Quote from: The Sultan on March 14, 2025, 08:13:11 PMYou haven't figured out yet that willie complains about everything, so he's bound to be right occasionally. That's not exactly insight.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 14, 2025, 08:13:11 PMYou haven't figured out yet that willie complains about everything, so he's bound to be right occasionally. That's not exactly insight.
Unlike Sultan, who lives to shoot his mouth off, is always wrong, and has so much insight he is blind.
Quote from: tower912 on March 14, 2025, 07:58:10 PM1. It won't get any tougher, regardless of who MU plays or where.
2. I thought Stevie was going to get killed out there. Came close twice.
3. I said this during the last game against SJU at MSG. SJU plays aggressively. The fan whips into a frenzy, which fires the team up. Great defensive team. Of course they get calls. Every game all season.
4. Kam needed help.
5. Masterful job by Ejiofor slipping into the space Ben vacated going to help or contest shots. That is what I want Caedin to aspire to. That strong.
6. Ross's F1 changed the flow of the game. Right call. MU never regained their footing.
7. MU will not face a more physical team in the tournament. In a more hostile environment. Phew.
8. Saddle up. Ride or die.
Re: 2 - not a foul called on either. Both could have easily been an F1.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 15, 2025, 09:04:26 AMRe: 2 - not a foul called on either. Both could have easily been an F1.
It will depend on the refs. Sultan wasn't wrong in that it was a loose ball. Big East tourney at the garden, not a foul. You aren't wrong that if the refs chose to focus on the shot to the head, it could be called differently.
The St. John's narrative here is kinda dumb.
They're 8-2 on the road this year, with those two losses coming by a combined three points.
Their two neutral court losses were by a combined four points, and early in the season when they were still figuring it out with 4.5 new starters.
The notion that they're built to win at the home/Garden is objectively false.
They are undefeated at the garden. Really good everywhere else.
They can't shoot and can barely dribble.
The gameplan is Ejiofor club you in the face until you can't see anymore on offense.
The gameplan is foul you in the backcourt, the midcourt, and the front court and hope refs don't put you in the bonus with 11 minutes left in a half..
They're out to a 15 seed I'll put my rep on the line.
They're like Jr year Edey Purdue except Ejiofor is a homeless man's Edey.
I would agree that SJU is susceptible to a quick whistle. But their defense for the season is elite.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2025, 11:44:56 AMThey're like Jr year Edey Purdue except Ejiofor is a homeless man's Edey.
Marquette managed to make a homeless man's Edey look like Olajuwon this week.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2025, 11:43:46 AMThey can't shoot and can barely dribble.
The gameplan is Ejiofor club you in the face until you can't see anymore on offense.
The gameplan is foul you in the backcourt, the midcourt, and the front court and hope refs don't put you in the bonus with 11 minutes left in a half..
They're out to a 15 seed I'll put my rep on the line.
I'll take that bet. But I don't see them in the sweet 16.
No BEast team makes it past the first weekend.
We get absorbed by the AAC and fold. Shaka leaves for Virginia, MU changes name to the Gold, and we hire Bo Ryan as our new coach.
It's been fun everyone.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 15, 2025, 11:48:16 AMMarquette managed to make a homeless man's Edey look like Olajuwon this week.
Yeah I mean our counter is Ben Gold or a freshman. Of course. Doesn't change the fact.
Quote from: fjm on March 15, 2025, 11:50:28 AMI'll take that bet. But I don't see them in the sweet 16.
No BEast team makes it past the first weekend.
We get absorbed by the AAC and fold. Shaka leaves for Virginia, MU changes name to the Gold, and we hire Bo Ryan as our new coach.
It's been fun everyone.
I actually think this could be Shaka's deepest run with MU.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2025, 11:43:46 AMThey can't shoot and can barely dribble.
The gameplan is Ejiofor club you in the face until you can't see anymore on offense.
The gameplan is foul you in the backcourt, the midcourt, and the front court and hope refs don't put you in the bonus with 11 minutes left in a half..
They're out to a 15 seed I'll put my rep on the line.
Pretty low stakes.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 15, 2025, 12:01:00 PMPretty low stakes.
I was the OG Wojo Whistleblower. I'm a legend.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2025, 11:58:02 AMI actually think this could be Shaka's deepest run with MU.
What? With his weakest team since year 1. I will have what you are smoking.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 15, 2025, 12:11:12 PMWhat? With his weakest team since year 1. I will have what you are smoking.
The Kolek / Oso / OMAX team was much stronger and had National Championship potential. Just didn't get it done.
This particular team will benefit greatly from getting out of the Big East, in my opinion.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 14, 2025, 09:35:55 PMI think this is exactly right. Jop spreads the floor but only Kam is a threat to score.
We basically ask a PF to be our secondary ball handler and creator and he takes all the heat for struggling to do it. Meanwhile our 2 and 3 (who we rightfully love) don't get any criticism for their lack of creation
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2025, 11:43:46 AMThey can't shoot and can barely dribble.
The gameplan is Ejiofor club you in the face until you can't see anymore on offense.
The gameplan is foul you in the backcourt, the midcourt, and the front court and hope refs don't put you in the bonus with 11 minutes left in a half..
They're out to a 15 seed I'll put my rep on the line.
The one caveat that can't be overlooked is Pitino's teams have been allowed to play this way for whatever reason. His L'Ville team got away with murder all the way to a championship
Quote from: willie warrior on March 15, 2025, 06:38:34 AMBut is Shaka that Smart? Forget the last name Is he?
He was accepted into Ivy Leagues. He's one of the top humans in the world at what he does. He's very obviously a smart person. Much smarter than you, clearly.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 15, 2025, 12:12:53 PMWe basically ask a PF to be our secondary ball handler and creator and he takes all the heat for struggling to do it. Meanwhile our 2 and 3 (who we rightfully love) don't get any criticism for their lack of creation
Fair. Stevie is a beast but man he missed some easy ones yesterday. Ben needs help. He is a 4 forced to play the 5 right now. He did not even get a shot off yesterday. Not one attempt. Without question we need a legit center. Portal or no portal, Shaka needs to address that issue.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 15, 2025, 12:59:31 PMHe was accepted into Ivy Leagues. He's one of the top humans in the world at what he does. He's very obviously a smart person. Much smarter than you, clearly.
Smart people make mistakes. Smart coaches make mistakes. Andy Reid coached a terrible Super Bowl.
It's not even looking in hindsight to suggest Shaka should have found some more interior help heading into this season. Many were saying it here 11-12 months ago, and the lack thereof has played a big role in this team's struggles the past two months.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 15, 2025, 01:13:05 PMFair. Stevie is a beast but man he missed some easy ones yesterday. Ben needs help. He is a 4 forced to play the 5 right now. He did not even get a shot off yesterday. Not one attempt. Without question we need a legit center. Portal or no portal, Shaka needs to address that issue.
Not only did he not get one off, he didn't even look to. Passed up open 3s, never put it on the floor to attack, etc. Yesterday felt like a defining game for Gold and he failed pretty badly.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2025, 11:58:02 AMI actually think this could be Shaka's deepest run with MU.
Even though our bigs are so bad that they make a homeless man's Edey look like Olajuwon?
I actually agree that it "could be" Shaka's deepest run with MU, though.
Of course, that also means it "could be" something other than his deepest run.
Oh, and I'll happily get in the long line of folks willing to bet you that St. John's doesn't lose to a 15.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2025, 11:58:02 AMI actually think this could be Shaka's deepest run with MU.
How can I bet opposite of this?
Quote from: Viper on March 14, 2025, 08:11:29 PMScoopers hack on Willie, but he's not incorrect. MU needs shooters and bangers. Shaka is a bright guy, hopefully that's what we'll have next season.
:o :o
Home cooking at its worst. Only place worse would be playing on NYC streets.
We will be better off in the Big Dance.
Shaka gave the subtle dig to the Big East....Hurley was more blunt about the refs....
If you don't think this was "baked in" for St.John's you're naive....Big business....Big money....
Shaka said to the TV announcer....."The team that will win this game is the team that doesn't have the fouls called on them".....
There was one go to commercial moment where they showed 4 plays that just previously happened....All had calls that could have been called against St. John's....No fouls were called....NONE!
It is what it is.....
Quote from: burger on March 16, 2025, 07:32:25 AMShaka gave the subtle dig to the Big East....Hurley was more blunt about the refs....
If you don't think this was "baked in" for St.John's you're naive....Big business....Big money....
Shaka said to the TV announcer....."The team that will win this game is the team that doesn't have the fouls called on them".....
There was one go to commercial moment where they showed 4 plays that just previously happened....All had calls that could have been called against St. John's....No fouls were called....NONE!
It is what it is.....
Good lord. Just stop with this nonsense.
Hard to make the "fix was in for St. John's" argument after that ridiculous technical on RJ Luis last night.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2025, 11:43:46 AMThey can't shoot and can barely dribble.
The gameplan is Ejiofor club you in the face until you can't see anymore on offense.
The gameplan is foul you in the backcourt, the midcourt, and the front court and hope refs don't put you in the bonus with 11 minutes left in a half..
They're out to a 15 seed I'll put my rep on the line.
Bump.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2025, 10:33:00 PMBump.
St John's is a freight train that wont stop until it gets to San Antonio. I'm not betting against Pitino and his guys. They wear your ass down over the course of 40 minutes. This team is a legitimate title contender.
Quote from: bradforster on March 20, 2025, 11:25:28 PMSt John's is a freight train that wont stop until it gets to San Antonio. I'm not betting against Pitino and his guys. They wear your ass down over the course of 40 minutes. This team is a legitimate title contender.
I'd bet against them making it to the Final Four.
Quote from: bradforster on March 20, 2025, 11:25:28 PMSt John's is a freight train that wont stop until it gets to San Antonio. I'm not betting against Pitino and his guys. They wear your ass down over the course of 40 minutes. This team is a legitimate title contender.
100%. I have StJ's vs FL in the E8. I went w/FL only because the SEC is soooo good I figured that would give FL the edge. If StJ's doesn't make the F4 this year, Pitino will bring in the missing links. They'll be stacked for the foreseeable future, imo. Hurley ain't going away, but so much for his crowing about owning the 'Garden'. BE will be a battle for 2nd place next year.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2025, 10:33:00 PMBump.
As I said though, his reputation isn't much so this wasn't exactly a high stakes bet.
Quote from: Viper on March 21, 2025, 08:06:49 AM100%. I have StJ's vs FL in the E8. I went w/FL only because the SEC is soooo good I figured that would give FL the edge. If StJ's doesn't make the F4 this year, Pitino will bring in the missing links. They'll be stacked for the foreseeable future, imo. Hurley ain't going away, but so much for his crowing about owning the 'Garden'. BE will be a battle for 2nd place next year.
Two SEC teams already out, and Rick Pitino is 72 years old.
Yeah, Pitino flat out said in his pre-tourney presser that he doesn't know how much longer he will go. So he is trying to enjoy this more.
Quote from: burger on March 16, 2025, 07:32:25 AMShaka gave the subtle dig to the Big East....Hurley was more blunt about the refs....
If you don't think this was "baked in" for St.John's you're naive....Big business....Big money....
Shaka said to the TV announcer....."The team that will win this game is the team that doesn't have the fouls called on them".....
There was one go to commercial moment where they showed 4 plays that just previously happened....All had calls that could have been called against St. John's....No fouls were called....NONE!
It is what it is.....
How about Marquette making some wide open shots??? We stunk. The refs did not beat us, we did. You cannot win if you can't score.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 08:54:23 AMTwo SEC teams already out, and Rick Pitino is 72 years old.
mizzou and Georgia going out not that surprising. Pitino is 72 going on 55 and can smell a natty. He's hangin' around. Not even sure he recruits at this point. He chooses.
Quote from: Viper on March 21, 2025, 09:06:52 AMmizzou and Georgia going out not that surprising. Pitino is 72 going on 55 and can smell a natty. He's hangin' around. Not even sure he recruits at this point. He chooses.
Texas also lost so that's three. Anyway, Pitino is a fantastic coach. One of the best all time. I guess we will have to see if he's on to something here...but no...he doesn't just "choose."
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2025, 11:43:46 AMThey can't shoot and can barely dribble.
The gameplan is Ejiofor club you in the face until you can't see anymore on offense.
The gameplan is foul you in the backcourt, the midcourt, and the front court and hope refs don't put you in the bonus with 11 minutes left in a half..
They're out to a 15 seed I'll put my rep on the line.
1. What was your "rep"? And now that it officially has been ruined, what does that say about anything you might ever post from here on out?
2. St. John's is really good.
Quote from: MU82 on March 21, 2025, 10:19:33 AM1. What was your "rep"? And now that it officially has been ruined, what does that say about anything you might ever post from here on out?
2. St. John's is really good.
SJU sucks. The upset was on first half. Made a bunch of lucky threes second half. Early exit coming.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 21, 2025, 01:27:45 PMSJU sucks. The upset was on first half. Made a bunch of lucky threes second half. Early exit coming.
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Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 21, 2025, 01:27:45 PMSJU sucks. The upset was on first half. Made a bunch of lucky threes second half. Early exit coming.
I'd be really surprised if they don't make the E8.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 21, 2025, 01:27:45 PMSJU sucks. The upset was on first half. Made a bunch of lucky threes second half. Early exit coming.
Thanks for putting what was left of your rep on the line.
Quote from: Viper on March 21, 2025, 09:06:52 AMmizzou and Georgia going out not that surprising. Pitino is 72 going on 55 and can smell a natty. He's hangin' around. Not even sure he recruits at this point. He chooses.
That obviously isn't true. I mean, Pitino chose to bring Walter Clayton with him from Iona to St. John's ... but Clayton chose to play closer to home at Florida, where he has become an All-American.
Here's what Clayton said at the time ...
"Obviously I've been with Coach 'P' two years and [associated head coach Steve Masiello] for one year. Leaving them, it's kind of tough. But, overall, I'm a feel guy. I go big off feel — it's about what I feel. Honestly, I feel like [Florida] is the better choice. Basketball is going to be great at both schools. It just feels better at Florida. I feel like they were genuine recruiting me these past few weeks. They've been consistent. My feelings shifted over these past couple of weeks. Every time I would try to put my mind on St. John's, my feelings shifted to Florida." Florida and St. John's could meet in the Elite Eight, which would be cool.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 21, 2025, 01:27:45 PMSJU sucks. The upset was on first half. Made a bunch of lucky threes second half. Early exit coming.
Bump. I was a round early. Omaha just that bad I guess.
#ballknower
Who was the guy shocked to see anything less than E8? Lolol
Bye bye Ejiofoul!
Quote from: bradforster on March 20, 2025, 11:25:28 PMSt John's is a freight train that wont stop until it gets to San Antonio. I'm not betting against Pitino and his guys. They wear your ass down over the course of 40 minutes. This team is a legitimate title contender.
Freight train came to a stop a few stations shy of San Antonio.
Play poorly, lose. Universal.