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Title: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Macallan 18 on February 25, 2025, 02:34:55 PM
https://marquettewire.org/4133037/news/record-numbers-of-alcohol-related-emergency-calls-and-hospitalizations-on-nmd-this-year/
 (https://marquettewire.org/4133037/news/record-numbers-of-alcohol-related-emergency-calls-and-hospitalizations-on-nmd-this-year/)
For the old timers, was this just a typical Saturday back in the day?

In the Academic Senate meeting, leadership said the later the tip off of the game the more out of control students get. Would not be surprised at 11 am tip offs for future National Marquette Day games.

QuoteAt one point, there was an hour wait for an ambulance, and Marquette staff was triaging students in the lobbies of dorms.

At the residence halls, staff confiscated 47 BORGs (black out rage gallons) — gallon jugs filled with hard alcohol and flavored water — and had to start telling dozens of students to go outside and dump them once it became too overwhelming to confiscate all of them.

QuoteArcuri presented photos of students in stretchers in the lobbies of dorms and students passed out and receiving care in dining halls. At one point, ORL was told to triage, assess and call MUPD who then called for an ambulance to help regulate calls for ambulances.

QuoteWhen the wait for an ambulance became an hour, MUPD called Bell Ambulances and told them to just park ambulances on campus. Gannon said they would drive students to the hospital and then immediately turn around to come get another student.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: tower912 on February 25, 2025, 02:37:29 PM
We know.  Thank you.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 25, 2025, 02:42:44 PM
I'm oddly really proud of these kids.

Sure beats the last crop that eschewed alcohol.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MU82 on February 25, 2025, 02:57:41 PM
We used to call that "Thursday."

Seriously, this is crazy shyte.

Back when the drinking age was 18, drinking (especially beer, but other booze too) was more routine (for lack of better word). Marquette had a bar in the student union. Dorm residents were encouraged to throw floor parties. There were fliers on dorm walls about which local stores had the best keg prices, which bars had $1 pitchers, etc. Lots of bars on campus, all of them packed on Fri and Sat nights.

Maybe now that it's "forbidden" for all but 21+ year olds, it's more of a freak-out any time there is an event?

I don't know. Just musing here. We had plenty of drunk-fests back then, too, though I don't remember any of the people I knew having to go to the hospital, and certainly not dozens of hundreds.

Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: The Sultan on February 25, 2025, 04:04:35 PM
Students are drinking way more potent stuff than most of us did back in the day. It can be a problem.

Also students don't drink as often which means they may not be great at pacing themselves.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 25, 2025, 04:22:12 PM
True, we may have drank similar things, but we put it in a 16oz cup, not a gallon jug!

I'm sensing an "Introduction to boozing it up" should maybe be a required course.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 25, 2025, 04:24:10 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 25, 2025, 04:22:12 PMTrue, we may have drank similar things, but we put it in a 16oz cup, not a gallon jug!

I'm sensing an "Introduction to boozing it up" should maybe be a required course.
We called that "High School".
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MUfan12 on February 25, 2025, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 25, 2025, 04:04:35 PMAlso students don't drink as often which means they may not be great at pacing themselves.

That was my reaction to the story as well.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: PointWarrior on February 25, 2025, 04:49:26 PM
"black out rage gallon"  - the names it self spells out the problem.  Drank plenty at Marquette, drink in my old age now, at no time did I ever want to "black out."  Especially today, how many things can happen in a black out stage.  I don't understand the coolness of blacking out. 




Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: The Sultan on February 25, 2025, 04:55:38 PM
Quote from: BrewCity83 on February 25, 2025, 04:24:10 PMWe called that "High School".

Students drink even less in high school than they did back in the day.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on February 25, 2025, 07:48:58 PM
Sounds like a pretty huge over reaction by someone. People being triaged in the dining hall? Come on.... We're there actually that many students dying of alcohol poisoning needing their stomachs pumped?

That many needing to be rolled over into a life saving position? I'm calling foul on this.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on February 25, 2025, 07:50:58 PM
Read part of the article.

29 calls over the course of the night. 14 who actually went to the hospital. There's no way this isn't just a normal night for marquette first responders.

Either someone in resident life massively over reacted, or this article is exaggerating.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: tower912 on February 25, 2025, 07:53:12 PM
Apparently, they are still all hungover tonight.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: The Sultan on February 25, 2025, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on February 25, 2025, 07:48:58 PMSounds like a pretty huge over reaction by someone. People being triaged in the dining hall? Come on.... We're there actually that many students dying of alcohol poisoning needing their stomachs pumped?

That many needing to be rolled over into a life saving position? I'm calling foul on this.

Quote from: #UnleashSean on February 25, 2025, 07:50:58 PMRead part of the article.

29 calls over the course of the night. 14 who actually went to the hospital. There's no way this isn't just a normal night for marquette first responders.

Either someone in resident life massively over reacted, or this article is exaggerating.

"Rick Arcuri, executive director for Business Operations, said he's been at the university for 40 years and has "never seen anything like I've seen this year on National Marquette Day."

Do you think he's lying?

And I will tell you that 29 calls and 14 transports to the hospital isn't close to a "normal night." You honestly think 14 MU students are routinely transported to the hospital? Are you kidding?
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on February 25, 2025, 07:55:12 PM
Sorry last post. I started to read the article. It was pretty laughable with the overreaction. But then I read this.

"Not only were students being taken to the hospital, before staff were able to transport them, 14 students were disrespecting either staff or MUPD in the residence halls."

- I couldn't continue. That was too stupid.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: GB Warrior on February 25, 2025, 07:55:47 PM
How do we know this wasn't an elaborate roofie plot by the dental students
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: The Sultan on February 25, 2025, 07:57:14 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on February 25, 2025, 07:55:12 PMSorry last post. I started to read the article. It was pretty laughable with the overreaction. But then I read this.

"Not only were students being taken to the hospital, before staff were able to transport them, 14 students were disrespecting either staff or MUPD in the residence halls."

- I couldn't continue. That was too stupid.

Stupid is thinking that 14 students transported to the hospital is a "normal night."
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Skatastrophy on February 25, 2025, 08:06:52 PM
11 am tipoff is just a kegs'n'eggs opportunity.

We used to wander over at 4am during the '02-'03 run to get to the Bradley Center, and it's not like we were sober.

Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Jockey on February 25, 2025, 08:40:42 PM
Young men and women should never consume alcohol. We all know drinking will lead to pot smoking.

MU should arrange some nice church services for the youth to show them alternatives to the demon rum.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Shaka Shart on February 25, 2025, 08:53:43 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 25, 2025, 07:55:47 PMHow do we know this wasn't an elaborate roofie plot by the dental students

High on Ivermectin
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: JWags85 on February 26, 2025, 10:20:05 PM
Quote from: PointWarrior on February 25, 2025, 04:49:26 PM"black out rage gallon"  - the names it self spells out the problem.  Drank plenty at Marquette, drink in my old age now, at no time did I ever want to "black out."  Especially today, how many things can happen in a black out stage.  I don't understand the coolness of blacking out. 

Its more just an attempt at a "edgy" name.  College kids drink to get super wasted, its no different than it was 50 years ago.  Thinking kids back in the day were just getting pleasantly drunk off a couple draft Schlitz pours is revisionist history.  I'd be very surprised if BORG mixtures are all that different than jungle juice or hairy buffalo that have been campus mainstays across the country for ages.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 26, 2025, 11:41:40 PM
I've been out of college for 11 years and it's been 16 since I started. Four lokos, vodka with crystal lite, the vortex bottles, ice beer, were all common just to get wasted quicker and cheaper. Not to mention the drinking games.

That doesn't even cover my old jungle juice recipe that i just found an old photo of:

Bottle of Everclear, bottle of light rum, handle of gin, 3 handles of vodka, bottle of each of sour Apple pucker, peach schnapps, triple sec, 99 apple, 99 mixed berry, four bottles of boones farm, and a 12 pack of redbull.

I know I'm hardly one of the older people but it's laughable to be surprised that segments of college students are partying hard on a Gameday we make out to equal homecoming
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: The Sultan on February 27, 2025, 04:05:38 AM
Quote from: JWags85 on February 26, 2025, 10:20:05 PMIts more just an attempt at a "edgy" name.  College kids drink to get super wasted, its no different than it was 50 years ago.  Thinking kids back in the day were just getting pleasantly drunk off a couple draft Schlitz pours is revisionist history.  I'd be very surprised if BORG mixtures are all that different than jungle juice or hairy buffalo that have been campus mainstays across the country for ages.

I'm not making stuff up when I say that college kids in general don't drink as often as they used to, but when they do they drink more potent stuff.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 27, 2025, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 27, 2025, 04:05:38 AMI'm not making stuff up when I say that college kids in general don't drink as often as they used to, but when they do they drink more potent stuff.

I wouldn't dispute this at all.  We all (my group of friends) drank pretty much every night, but it was largely just lots of cheap beer, with the occasional smattering of shots thrown in for fun.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: The Sultan on February 27, 2025, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: BrewCity83 on February 27, 2025, 11:52:55 AMI wouldn't dispute this at all.  We all (my group of friends) drank pretty much every night, but it was largely just lots of cheap beer, with the occasional smattering of shots thrown in for fun.

Yes. Furthermore, "occasional drinkers" are getting themselves in trouble by going right to the harder stuff. They're not sipping on Miller Lites or Bartles & Jaymes like they were back in my day.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MU82 on February 27, 2025, 12:05:08 PM
Agree with Sultan and BrewCity on this.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: pbiflyer on February 27, 2025, 12:19:41 PM
I did my part in showing them how to drink responsibly on NMD. We dartied appropriately.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Jay Bee on February 27, 2025, 12:37:29 PM
Sultan is a big Bartles & Jaymes guy, eh?

I wonder if the kids are getting into the THC drinks much? Hmm.. now that I think of it, I don't even know what the laws are in Wisconsin these days.

Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: The Sultan on February 27, 2025, 12:44:03 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 27, 2025, 12:37:29 PMSultan is a big Bartles & Jaymes guy, eh?

These guys are my heroes.

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Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 27, 2025, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 27, 2025, 12:44:03 PMThese guys are my heroes.

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They thank you for your support
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: WarriorFan on February 28, 2025, 02:57:10 AM
Back in the day it was a carefully calculated cost per drunk.  First, go play hoops for a few hours so one is plenty dehydrated, then Old Milwaukee in the dorm for $1.99/case (max $2.99), then whichever bar had nickle or dime taps.  Best to get the whole job done for under $5 plus real chili.

As for 29 medical cases - I'm sure that's less than the average number of toilets out of service in McCormick on the average saturday morning in 1980-1990 due to the results of above.

Finally, part of my theory is that we drank in the old days with good friends, who knew how much we could drink and knew when one of us was overdoing it. We took care of our friends. I'm not convinced the kids these days have friends good enough to take care of or be taken care of... so they call an ambulance!
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Macallan 18 on February 28, 2025, 08:31:33 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 27, 2025, 12:37:29 PMI wonder if the kids are getting into the THC drinks much? Hmm.. now that I think of it, I don't even know what the laws are in Wisconsin these days.

Thanks to the 2018 Farm Bill that declared industrial hemp was legal as long as something does not contain more than .3% of THC that is found in marijuana it is legal to make and sell. Since then, legal THC products have become more prevalent in Milwaukee.

Until last summer it felt like the only place you could find THC seltzer drinks in Milwaukee were at some select liquor stores. Now, even grocery stores such as Woodman's and Sendiks carry them and the shelf space is increasing. The Woodman's in Oak Creek has gone from one fridge case of THC seltzers to 4 in the past 6 months.

If anyone in the Milwaukee area is interested in trying THC seltzers, Kind Oasis on Farwell and Kenilworth has one of the best selections and decent prices. You get a discount if you buy 4 or more of their own THC seltzer but they also have a whole wall of other seltzers including 50 mg offerings from Crescent 9 and a few others.

Personally I now prefer the THC seltzers to alcohol. You get similar effects without the crappy hangover feeling the next day. Only downside from my perspective are many of the seltzers have a high sugar content which leads to gut rot after a couple. I've started sticking with Surly Brewing's Take Five brand as they have no sugar and 0 calories. It is like drinking a THC infused Lacroix.

In my opinion the price point for these seltzers are still too high to be daily drinkers relative to a case of Miller or a bottle of liquor.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Jay Bee on February 28, 2025, 10:01:33 AM
Just tried Surly Double Tale g+t mocktail last weekend.

Sounds like WI is similar to Minnesota.

How many mg's are you typically downing?
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Macallan 18 on March 01, 2025, 04:50:12 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 28, 2025, 10:01:33 AMHow many mg's are you typically downing?

I enjoy the 50 mg Crescent 9 Strawberry Lemonade and the Cantrip 50 mg Root Beer which tastes very similar to real root beer. I can have one of these and be good for the night with the added bonus of it makes me super sleepy yet I wake up feeling great the next day. Unlike when I have a dram or two of Macallan. However the price point, $8 for a 12 oz can of the Crescent 9 or $12 to $14 for the Cantrip isn't wallet friendly as a daily drinker or for tailgating and backyard BBQs.

If I'm going to be drinking more than one or two I'll have the Surly Brewing's Take Five Mixed Berry 5mg because of the 0 calories and no sugar. I can find a 6 pack of that for around $12.

How is the Surly Double Tale g+t mocktail? I haven't seen it around the places I frequent in Milwaukee yet, but a 10 mg or 25 mg that is 0 calorie no sugar and a decent price point is something I'd like to find. Do you have any recommendations?

The only thing keeping me from switching completely to THC drinks is the price point. Single 12 oz cans for some of the seltzers run between $5 and $10 a can. You can get a 6 or 12 pack of beer for that price point or a decent bottle of bourbon for mixed drinks for the price of two THC seltzer cans.

 


 
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 01, 2025, 05:33:59 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on February 25, 2025, 07:57:14 PMStupid is thinking that 14 students transported to the hospital is a "normal night."

Yes, I really do think  ~.14% of the university's students going to the hospital is probably fairly similar. I also believe that Marquette's EMS probably receives more then 20 field runs per day.

I do think there is a massive problem if things were truly this "bad". That problem being Marquette staff being overwhelmed by 29 ems calls.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 01, 2025, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on February 26, 2025, 10:20:05 PMIts more just an attempt at a "edgy" name.  College kids drink to get super wasted, its no different than it was 50 years ago.  Thinking kids back in the day were just getting pleasantly drunk off a couple draft Schlitz pours is revisionist history.  I'd be very surprised if BORG mixtures are all that different than jungle juice or hairy buffalo that have been campus mainstays across the country for ages.

Even people in this thread are geeking out because of the name.... LOL
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: The Sultan on March 01, 2025, 05:37:32 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 01, 2025, 05:33:59 PMYes, I really do think  ~.14% of the university's students going to the hospital is probably fairly similar. I also believe that Marquette's EMS probably receives more then 20 field runs per day.

I do think there is a massive problem if things were truly this "bad". That problem being Marquette staff being overwhelmed by 29 ems calls.

It is absolutely not a regular thing for 14 students to be transported to the ER for alcohol related reasons. Seriously that's ridiculous.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 01, 2025, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: Macallan 18 on March 01, 2025, 04:50:12 PMI enjoy the 50 mg Crescent 9 Strawberry Lemonade and the Cantrip 50 mg Root Beer which tastes very similar to real root beer. I can have one of these and be good for the night with the added bonus of it makes me super sleepy yet I wake up feeling great the next day. Unlike when I have a dram or two of Macallan. However the price point, $8 for a 12 oz can of the Crescent 9 or $12 to $14 for the Cantrip isn't wallet friendly as a daily drinker or for tailgating and backyard BBQs.

If I'm going to be drinking more than one or two I'll have the Surly Brewing's Take Five Mixed Berry 5mg because of the 0 calories and no sugar. I can find a 6 pack of that for around $12.

How is the Surly Double Tale g+t mocktail? I haven't seen it around the places I frequent in Milwaukee yet, but a 10 mg or 25 mg that is 0 calorie no sugar and a decent price point is something I'd like to find. Do you have any recommendations?

The only thing keeping me from switching completely to THC drinks is the price point. Single 12 oz cans for some of the seltzers run between $5 and $10 a can. You can get a 6 or 12 pack of beer for that price point or a decent bottle of bourbon for mixed drinks for the price of two THC seltzer cans.

 


 

Do we know what type of THC is in there? My assumption is something around delta-9 since its pretty much legal everywhere.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 01, 2025, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 01, 2025, 05:37:32 PMIt is absolutely not a regular thing for 14 students to be transported to the ER for alcohol related reasons. Seriously that's ridiculous.

Honestly Sultan, I think your clutching at pearls here. There were 29 ems calls, 14 of them ended up in hospital trips. Now that number is already super skewed. On top of that ~53% of all ems transports to emergency rooms are unnecessary.

My best guess is some RA or resident staff went a little overboard, probably a little bit to intense, and caused a whole ruckus. The hour long ambulance wait? Sounds a hell of a lot more like triage from the EMS provider in that regard.


Did you drink in college? If not, I understand where you're coming from, but it's normal. If you did, you're simply to far removed to remember what actually went down. Stop believing these crazy stories like the RAGE JUICE GALLONS. Thats the same crappy jungle juice, applepie moonshine, etc that we all drank in the college years. Youre just being baited by the name.

It's all the same everclear, 90 proof yadda yadda bullcrap we all mixed in. Nothing is more potent. Since the dawn of American college life young adults have been mixing in whatever gets you messed up for the cheapest.

The only difference nowadays is we all have insta news making things in our pockets.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: pbiflyer on March 01, 2025, 10:12:01 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 01, 2025, 05:38:21 PMDo we know what type of THC is in there? My assumption is something around delta-9 since its pretty much legal everywhere.
not in freedom loving Florida sadly.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 02, 2025, 12:30:33 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 01, 2025, 10:12:01 PMnot in freedom loving Florida sadly.

From my quick google detective skills, and one personal antedote from a shop in Daytona it seems that delta 8/9 (or whatever other "legal" ones) are also legal in florida. The only thing I found in opposition is a bill trying to maybe ban it? (google wouldnt load the page)
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on March 02, 2025, 07:54:58 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 01, 2025, 10:12:01 PMnot in freedom loving Florida sadly.

Pretty sure a small shop in my sleepy beach town sells them. Not sure the ingredients, but the cans are definitely THC seltzers.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: pbiflyer on March 02, 2025, 08:38:06 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 02, 2025, 12:30:33 AMFrom my quick google detective skills, and one personal antedote from a shop in Daytona it seems that delta 8/9 (or whatever other "legal" ones) are also legal in florida. The only thing I found in opposition is a bill trying to maybe ban it? (google wouldnt load the page)
Interesting because all the other forms you have to have a prescription for.
I will check it out.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: JWags85 on March 02, 2025, 09:20:06 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 01, 2025, 10:12:01 PMnot in freedom loving Florida sadly.

Probably why kava/kratom is more popular down here than anywhere else I've ever spent time in.  In WI/IL/OH/NY/NJ I'd see Kava occasionally and I'd heard of Kratom.  But down in Florida I feel shops loudly advertising both are as common as a liquor store on Milwaukee
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 02, 2025, 09:22:16 AM
Just a PSA, regardless of legal purchase, if you have a job that could or would run a drug test, you would fail with THC in your system after consumption.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MUfan12 on March 02, 2025, 10:30:51 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 02, 2025, 09:22:16 AMJust a PSA, regardless of legal purchase, if you have a job that could or would run a drug test, you would fail with THC in your system after consumption.

Definitely true.

From my experience in hiring nationally, most companies now are ignoring a positive THC test in pre-employment screening. Role dependent, of course.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 02, 2025, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 02, 2025, 09:22:16 AMJust a PSA, regardless of legal purchase, if you have a job that could or would run a drug test, you would fail with THC in your system after consumption.

Do boomer companies still test for thc? Most everyone I know is not. We stopped testing for thc at our facilities altogether probably 5 years ago. It was pretty much a joke even before then though.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MUfan12 on March 02, 2025, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 02, 2025, 10:54:49 AMDo boomer companies still test for thc? Most everyone I know is not. We stopped testing for thc at our facilities altogether probably 5 years ago. It was pretty much a joke even before then though.

It really depends on what the person will be doing. I used to staff an FAA repair station and those techs had random periodic testing since the equipment was safety critical.

The company I currently work for owns a ton of businesses across several industries, and while THC is still on the drug screen, there wouldn't be any issue with a positive test for 95% of the openings.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: tower912 on March 02, 2025, 11:09:25 AM
No longer my issue, but even though cannabis products are legal in the state of Michigan, the drivers of our fire apparatus were/are subject to a drug and alcohol screen if they are involved in an at fault traffic accident.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 02, 2025, 11:10:11 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 02, 2025, 10:54:49 AMDo boomer companies still test for thc? Most everyone I know is not. We stopped testing for thc at our facilities altogether probably 5 years ago. It was pretty much a joke even before then though.

Why you askin me?  Not a boomer and haven't had a drug test for 13 years.  But if your company has to follow federal regulations, well, it's not allowed.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: warriorchick on March 02, 2025, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 01, 2025, 05:37:32 PMIt is absolutely not a regular thing for 14 students to be transported to the ER for alcohol related reasons. Seriously that's ridiculous.

I have acquaintances that work at the ER and Mt. Sinai and they say that NMD is the absolute worst day of the year for them. Not only is it alcohol poisoning, it's broken bones and other injuries caused by drunkenness and stupidity.  This year was described to me as "the worst ever".


Uneash, let's hope that if you have a family member with severe alcohol poisoning that his friends don't have the cavalier attitude of taking them to the hospital that you do.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: warriorchick on March 02, 2025, 01:38:22 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 02, 2025, 01:37:24 PMI have acquaintances that work at the ER and Mt. Sinai and they say that NMD is the absolute worst day of the year for them. Not only is it alcohol poisoning, it's broken bones and other injuries caused by drunkenness and stupidity.  This year was described to me as "the worst ever".


For those of you downplaying the severity, let's hope that if you have a family member with extreme alcohol poisoning that his friends don't have the cavalier attitude of taking them to the hospital that you do.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 02, 2025, 08:49:07 PM

aLilBump!
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: pbiflyer on March 02, 2025, 09:18:11 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 02, 2025, 12:30:33 AMFrom my quick google detective skills, and one personal antedote from a shop in Daytona it seems that delta 8/9 (or whatever other "legal" ones) are also legal in florida. The only thing I found in opposition is a bill trying to maybe ban it? (google wouldnt load the page)
I know zero about thc drinks. Seems low dose (0.3%) hemp derived thc drinks are allowed.
Is that what ya'll are talking about?
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Macallan 18 on March 03, 2025, 10:48:36 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 01, 2025, 05:38:21 PMDo we know what type of THC is in there? My assumption is something around delta-9 since its pretty much legal everywhere.

The Surly Brewing Take Five and Crescent 9 use Delta 9 derived from hemp.

I'm no expert so if there is someone out there with more insight, please share. Some Internet sleuthing revealed that Delta-9 THC can be derived from two different types of cannabis plants: hemp and marijuana.

Hemp-derived delta-9 THC is extracted from hemp plants that comply with the FDA's federal limitation of 0.3% THC.

Hemp-derived delta-9 THC products are also legal at the federal level, thanks to the 2018 Farm Bill, which legalized the production and sale of hemp and its derivatives.

Marijuana-derived delta-9 THC products are illegal at the federal level, as marijuana is classified as a Schedule I substance under the Controlled Substances Act.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: swoopem on March 03, 2025, 11:36:50 AM
I don't understand THC cocktails. Why not just smoke a J?
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 03, 2025, 11:51:13 AM
Quote from: swoopem on March 03, 2025, 11:36:50 AMI don't understand THC cocktails. Why not just smoke a J?

There's healthier ways to get high now
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Jay Bee on March 03, 2025, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: swoopem on March 03, 2025, 11:36:50 AMI don't understand THC cocktails. Why not just smoke a J?

Bc smoke is yucky. And u kin buy a drink from a liquor store vs weed off some rando off a dirty street corner that's probably laced w crazy stuff
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: pbiflyer on March 03, 2025, 03:48:12 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 03, 2025, 12:34:11 PMBc smoke is yucky. And u kin buy a drink from a liquor store vs weed off some rando off a dirty street corner that's probably laced w crazy stuff

You can buy weed from someone other than a Bucky fan, ya know. ;D
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MU82 on March 04, 2025, 02:53:22 AM
When we visited Bend, Oregon a few years ago, we found a brewery that had a beer with CBD in it called Hazy Bliss.

And yes, it was blissful!
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 04, 2025, 11:28:27 AM
How far has the pendulum swung. In my day on a weekend (i.e. Friday, Saturday) the ladies had to be in their dorms by Midnight and the gents by 1 am, and absolutely no liquor in the dorms and if you were caught (with liquor) it was immediate suspension for that semester.

There were plenty of bars within walking distance on campus so being back before curfew was no big deal. On a few weekends in the fall we go to Madison to catch a football game as some of my local buddies had siblings that went to UW. I am not much of a drinker, 3 beers tops; which is why I became the designator driver most of the time. Their parents were grateful and if we were back early enough they would drive me back to the dorm or I just would crash out on the couch. As for "weed" or drugs, I never saw any of that, but that is not saying it did not occur at MU back then.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MU82 on March 04, 2025, 12:01:17 PM
You graduated on 1969 and there was no beer in the dorms? I got to Marquette only 9 years later, and MU encouraged us to throw dorm parties.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 05, 2025, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 04, 2025, 12:01:17 PMYou graduated on 1969 and there was no beer in the dorms? I got to Marquette only 9 years later, and MU encouraged us to throw dorm parties.


We even had to where a jacket and tie for dinner.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 05, 2025, 04:31:02 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 02, 2025, 09:22:16 AMJust a PSA, regardless of legal purchase, if you have a job that could or would run a drug test, you would fail with THC in your system after consumption.

I can verify this is the case, unfortunately!
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 05, 2025, 04:31:59 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 02, 2025, 10:54:49 AMDo boomer companies still test for thc? Most everyone I know is not. We stopped testing for thc at our facilities altogether probably 5 years ago. It was pretty much a joke even before then though.

Yes, DOT requirement for random tests.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Jay Bee on March 06, 2025, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 05, 2025, 01:30:39 PMWe even had to where a jacket and tie for dinner.

Beats wearing one, hey?
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 07, 2025, 10:24:03 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 06, 2025, 10:53:32 PMBeats wearing one, hey?

Wears AI when you need it.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 07, 2025, 10:41:17 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 07, 2025, 10:24:03 AMWears AI when you need it.

Dead
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: swoopem on March 07, 2025, 11:10:13 AM
Goolsbys opens at 8am tomorrow. Hopefully they're serving borgs
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: tower912 on March 07, 2025, 11:10:56 AM
Watch out for unsavory characters.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 07, 2025, 11:14:37 AM
Quote from: swoopem on March 07, 2025, 11:10:13 AMGoolsbys opens at 8am tomorrow. Hopefully they're serving borgs
Quote from: swoopem on March 07, 2025, 11:10:13 AMGoolsbys opens at 8am tomorrow. Hopefully they're serving borgs

Take cover!
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: The Sultan on March 07, 2025, 12:51:32 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 07, 2025, 11:10:56 AMWatch out for unsavory characters.

Dentists don't usually go downtown
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 07, 2025, 03:19:16 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on March 07, 2025, 12:51:32 PMDentists don't usually go downtown

Is Scoop banned at the dental school?
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 07, 2025, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: swoopem on March 07, 2025, 11:10:13 AMGoolsbys opens at 8am tomorrow. Hopefully they're serving borgs

Loaded with meat eaters.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: pbiflyer on March 08, 2025, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: Macallan 18 on March 03, 2025, 10:48:36 AMThe Surly Brewing Take Five and Crescent 9 use Delta 9 derived from hemp.

I'm no expert so if there is someone out there with more insight, please share. Some Internet sleuthing revealed that Delta-9 THC can be derived from two different types of cannabis plants: hemp and marijuana.

Hemp-derived delta-9 THC is extracted from hemp plants that comply with the FDA's federal limitation of 0.3% THC.

Hemp-derived delta-9 THC products are also legal at the federal level, thanks to the 2018 Farm Bill, which legalized the production and sale of hemp and its derivatives.

Marijuana-derived delta-9 THC products are illegal at the federal level, as marijuana is classified as a Schedule I substance under the Controlled Substances Act.
How long does a buzz last after drinking 2 5mg drinks? And let's assume the person I'm asking for drank a couple beers afterwards.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Macallan 18 on March 11, 2025, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 08, 2025, 04:35:55 PMHow long does a buzz last after drinking 2 5mg drinks? And let's assume the person I'm asking for drank a couple beers afterwards.

From the experience of my friends and I it varies from person to person.

Start slow and give it some time. It can take a half hour or so before the buzz kicks in and I know too many people who drank half a can, didn't feel anything after 15 or 20 minutes, then drank the rest only to have the full effect of the first dose kick in, then the extra dose a half hour after and be faded for the night.

My advice is start slow, give it a half hour, see how you feel then increase the dose. This will help you figure out how much and how fast it works for you. Some of the higher dose cans, like the 50mg, have marks on the side so you can measure how much you are taking.

The companies discourage adding alcohol on top of the THC seltzer, but again, your mileage varies from person to person. Once you know how much seltzer gets the effect you want, you can try to add a beer and see how that goes.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 11, 2025, 04:49:53 PM
This thread went from being "shocked" by the "behavior" of students to tips on drinking THC seltzers.


nice.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MU82 on March 11, 2025, 05:05:17 PM
So what you're saying is that the thread has finally gotten useful.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: jesmu84 on March 11, 2025, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Macallan 18 on March 11, 2025, 02:33:28 PMFrom the experience of my friends and I it varies from person to person.

Start slow and give it some time. It can take a half hour or so before the buzz kicks in and I know too many people who drank half a can, didn't feel anything after 15 or 20 minutes, then drank the rest only to have the full effect of the first dose kick in, then the extra dose a half hour after and be faded for the night.

My advice is start slow, give it a half hour, see how you feel then increase the dose. This will help you figure out how much and how fast it works for you. Some of the higher dose cans, like the 50mg, have marks on the side so you can measure how much you are taking.

The companies discourage adding alcohol on top of the THC seltzer, but again, your mileage varies from person to person. Once you know how much seltzer gets the effect you want, you can try to add a beer and see how that goes.

How do seltzers compare to edibles? Is 5mg seltzer the same as 5mg edible in terms of "highness"? What about time to onset or duration of high?
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 11, 2025, 07:22:42 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 11, 2025, 05:05:17 PMSo what you're saying is that the thread has finally gotten useful.

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Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: Macallan 18 on March 12, 2025, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 11, 2025, 04:49:53 PMThis thread went from being "shocked" by the "behavior" of students to tips on drinking THC seltzers. nice.

If only students put THC seltzer in their BORGs instead of alcohol, we wouldn't be "shocked" by their "behavior". #MakeNMDSedateAgain

Quote from: MU82 on March 11, 2025, 05:05:17 PMSo what you're saying is that the thread has finally gotten useful.

Is that a first for Scoop?

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 11, 2025, 05:33:19 PMHow do seltzers compare to edibles? Is 5mg seltzer the same as 5mg edible in terms of "highness"? What about time to onset or duration of high?

Cannabis edibles pass through the digestive system. The timing will vary based on a variety of things like whether or not you ate them on a full stomach, how fast your individual metabolism is, etc.

Cannabis drinks skip the digestive system and begin to enter your bloodstream soon after you take a drink so the high will hit you faster.

From my perspective, with THC drinks, it's easier to control your dose since they're usually lower in THC (2-10mg per serving) and the liquid format allows for more precise dosing, shotgun the can or take a shot. Edibles often contain higher THC doses (5-100mg+) and it can be tricky to accurately divide them to get a lower does from a high dose gummy.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2025, 03:31:21 PMYou should host your own pregame where $20 gets you a BORG!

Due to Rocky, I'm interested again.

Did we ever get an update at all? How bad was senior night etc?
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: pbiflyer on March 19, 2025, 09:10:15 AM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 18, 2025, 03:33:53 PMDue to Rocky, I'm interested again.

Did we ever get an update at all? How bad was senior night etc?
Heard we are opting out of the NCAA tournament due to the late start and safety concerns for students.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 19, 2025, 10:24:51 AM
I'm worried.  Some of the students might start partying Thursday night...
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2025, 12:10:23 PM
I had never heard of a BORG before this thread. Jimmy Kimmel was talking about BORGs the other night - dozens of them were confiscated during NYC's St. Patrick's Day parade.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 19, 2025, 06:17:55 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2025, 12:10:23 PMI had never heard of a BORG before this thread. Jimmy Kimmel was talking about BORGs the other night - dozens of them were confiscated during NYC's St. Patrick's Day parade.

Better shut it down
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: pbiflyer on March 20, 2025, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2025, 12:10:23 PMI had never heard of a BORG before this thread. Jimmy Kimmel was talking about BORGs the other night - dozens of them were confiscated during NYC's St. Patrick's Day parade.
Let he who has not dartied with a borg throw the first stone.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: JWags85 on March 20, 2025, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 20, 2025, 01:49:31 PMLet he who has not dartied with a borg throw the first stone.

Alot of zoomer/Gen-Z terms are silly but expected cultural progressions, but Ive always loved Darty.  I think its hilarious and somehow manages to encompass the energy of a great day drinking event.
Title: Re: National Marquette Day Student Partying Concerns MU Leaders
Post by: dgies9156 on March 22, 2025, 11:07:27 AM
I've resisted saying too much on this thread but I think we're missing something: Our attitude about alcohol consumption is at least a contributing factor to what happened in the dorms on NMD this year.

Not long ago, both of my children were graduated from a public university in Illinois. Both were able to get alcohol fairly freely by going to house parties. Unlike bars, where there is some training and associated regulation about how and when to serve people, there's none of that in student-run house parties. The result: weekends like NMD.

I won't say there weren't achohol-related problems when I was at Marquette. There were. Almost every woman on campus knew that drinking the punch at a dorm party in a men's dorm was toxic (yet, they did anyway too often). We had our share of alcohol problems. The night we won the NCAA, for example! But we also had the bars and we had experience drinking. People with a modicum of common sense learned early and the barss sort of knew when to cut someone off.

Morale: Just say "no" is nice, but I'm not sure it works.
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