New week, DePaul up first. Get back in the saddle and start stacking wins again.
I'll be there, will pray for rebounds while drinking $11 Busch Lattes.
Won't cover.
Quote from: tower912 on February 10, 2025, 08:59:58 AMNew week, DePaul up first. Get back in the saddle and start stacking wins again.
Only game this week. Make it count
Every year DePaul disappoints me. I kind of root for them to scare 500 in the BE but never. They've had a couple guys (like Strus or whoever) but always the cellar. The one thing they do is scare MU fans 😬.
So let's beat em by 20 and get back on track...and let next year be DePaul's year.
The vibes will not be good in that building if MU does their usual hospitable act of spotting the visitors a double digit first half lead.
Quote from: MUfan12 on February 10, 2025, 11:08:03 AMThe vibes will not be good in that building if MU does their usual hospitable act of spotting the visitors a double digit first half lead.
That's okay. Chase is scared of hyped up crowds, right?!
Quote from: wadesworld on February 10, 2025, 11:41:22 AMThat's okay. Chase is scared of hyped up crowds, right?!
He can't let it dictate how he's feeling, hey?
I'm still having flashbacks to Rivera's shooting display in OT.
Would really appreciate a comfortable win.
Enright done for the season
Quote from: tower912 on February 10, 2025, 08:59:58 AMNew week, DePaul up first. Get back in the saddle and start stacking wins again.
A nice opportunity to play two teams on two Tuesdays that should
hopefully be nothing more than sparring partners before going to Philly. And
yes, before anyone reminds me, I know our trip to Chicago had a lot more excitement than we expected.
Scoopers who seemed upset by those of us who posted critical comments during our recent, umm...troubles started some posts by saying "We're
18-4, 9-2, 18-5, 9-3, 18-6, 9-4 as if that was somehow relevant to our recent struggles. The number 18 will almost certainly change to 20 a week from tomorrow.
Running the table is a stretch, but it
could happen. I will be happy with tomorrow night's game being the start of a 6-1 finish, with our road trip to UCONN being the outlier.
Quote from: tower912 on February 10, 2025, 12:48:57 PMEnright done for the season
Doesn't look like Skogman or D'Amico played in their last game either. But I didn't see anything about injuries.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 10, 2025, 01:14:27 PMDoesn't look like Skogman or D'Amico played in their last game either. But I didn't see anything about injuries.
Shouldn't matter either way.
18.5 point favorites tomorrow.
Which makes me very curious to see what the line might be for Seton Hall next Tuesday.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 10, 2025, 01:24:35 PMShouldn't matter either way.
It absolutely matters, as it's not the same team that played us to OT last time out.
The last game against Nova without those 3, they were an offensive mess. So that does bode well for Marquette.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 10, 2025, 02:22:01 PMIt absolutely matters, as it's not the same team that played us to OT last time out.
The last game against Nova without those 3, they were an offensive mess. So that does bode well for Marquette.
Fine! But why couldn't this happen-3 guys out- to SJ, Creighton, and UCONN before we played them? Muggsy should have taken care of this.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 10, 2025, 01:25:08 PMWhich makes me very curious to see what the line might be for Seton Hall next Tuesday.
Should be 3 touchdowns or so.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 10, 2025, 01:24:35 PMShouldn't matter either way.
18.5 point favorites tomorrow.
Another one to take the opponent and the points?
Quote from: wisblue on February 10, 2025, 05:35:41 PMAnother one to take the opponent and the points?
Feel free to put your money where your mouth and heart are.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 10, 2025, 02:51:50 PMFine! But why couldn't this happen-3 guys out- to SJ, Creighton, and UCONN before we played them? Muggsy should have taken care of this.
Muggsy isn't the problem. We lost focus and played with zero poise. But we have a perfect opportunity to right the ship and regain our confidence starting tomorrow. MU remains the team with the highest ceiling the BEast and still has the best player in the conference.
Fanta and Crean on Peacock. Suddenly, Homer and Tony don't seem so bad.
Just get a win. Don't care how it looks or who plays well. Just win.
NM
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 10, 2025, 07:04:46 PMMuggsy isn't the problem. We lost focus and played with zero poise. But we have a perfect opportunity to right the ship and regain our confidence starting tomorrow. MU remains the team with the highest ceiling the BEast and still has the best player in the conference.
So you are just blowing smoke when you talk big and tough about recommending mayhem towards our opponents. Kudos for not doing that for a while now. And I'm being serious.
Tomorrow should be an easy win, not a righting of the ship. Righting the ship can begin when we go to Philly and play a team that can give us a game, which DePaul, with 3 guys out, is unlikely to do. And no, I do not count Seton Hall as a team that will test us.
We will probably not really know where the team is until the last 2 games of the BE season.
No next three game poll?
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 10, 2025, 10:29:53 PMSo you are just blowing smoke when you talk big and tough about recommending mayhem towards our opponents. Kudos for not doing that for a while now. And I'm being serious.
Tomorrow should be an easy win, not a righting of the ship. Righting the ship can begin when we go to Philly and play a team that can give us a game, which DePaul, with 3 guys out, is unlikely to do. And no, I do not count Seton Hall as a team that will test us.
We will probably not really know where the team is until the last 2 games of the BE season.
Unless, of course, we lose the next two. Then we'll know for sure that where we are is not where we want to be.
Quote from: tower912 on February 10, 2025, 05:37:53 PMFeel free to put your money where your mouth and heart are.
Thank you for the snarky advice but, as I have often said on this site, I am not foolish enough to spend money gambling on sports.
I do, however, pay some attention to point spreads for what they say about expectations for a game. I have noticed that MU is only 4-9 ATS in conference games and just 1-5 ATS when favored by double digits. They lost one of those games outright and some of the rest of them (including the first DePaul game) were not decided until the final minute.
If I were a gambler I would stay away from games like this because even a blowout win by the favorite does not necessarily mean covering the spread.
With 9 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Lazar Hayward for third on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 35 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Jerel McNeal for second on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 911 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Markus Howard for first on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 11, 2025, 08:28:16 AMWith 9 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Lazar Hayward for third on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 35 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Jerel McNeal for second on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 911 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Markus Howard for first on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
A record that will never be broken. Until another coach gives a 5'9 guy the green light to shoot 45 times per game
Quote from: #UnleashSean on February 11, 2025, 09:00:24 AMA record that will never be broken. Until another coach gives a 5'9 guy the green light to shoot 45 times per game
Sean Jones, your platter is being prepared!
Quote from: #UnleashSean on February 11, 2025, 09:00:24 AMA record that will never be broken. Until another coach gives a 5'9 guy the green light to shoot 45 times per game
Records are meant to be broken
Quote from: #UnleashSean on February 11, 2025, 09:00:24 AMA record that will never be broken. Until another coach gives a 5'9 guy the green light to shoot 45 times per game
54.7%, pal
Quote from: #UnleashSean on February 11, 2025, 09:00:24 AMA record that will never be broken. Until another coach gives a 5'9 guy the green light to shoot 45 times per game
I prefer Kam's achievement of three NCAA tourney wins (so far) to Markus's 2700 points, but that's just me.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 11, 2025, 09:36:27 AMI prefer Kam's achievement of three NCAA tourney wins (so far) to Markus's 2700 points, but that's just me.
18.7 v 14.9 aina
Quote from: #UnleashSean on February 11, 2025, 09:00:24 AMA record that will never be broken. Until another coach gives a 5'9 guy the green light to shoot 45 times per game
Or until the NCAA adopts the 4-point line. Or the 5-point line...
Quote from: BrewCity83 on February 11, 2025, 09:41:53 AMOr until the NCAA adopts the 4-point line. Or the 5-point line...
to bring this full circle, perhaps there should be a mid-range zone where each made basket is worth 5 points. That would really improve the game.
Or, a dunk/layup is worth 2. Mid-range worth 3, current 3 is worth 4.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 11, 2025, 09:19:19 AM54.7%, pal
We should hang a banner next to the 0-2 in ncaa tournament appearances one.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 11, 2025, 09:19:19 AM54.7%, pal
% of the time the offense was really nothing more than an iso for Markus?
% of the time a Wojo team successfully inbounded the basketball?
% of the time Joey stayed on his feet?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 11, 2025, 09:36:27 AMI prefer Kam's achievement of three NCAA tourney wins (so far) to Markus's 2700 points, but that's just me.
You would take winning basketball, over the highest points ever? How dare you!
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 11, 2025, 09:36:27 AMI prefer Kam's achievement of three NCAA tourney wins (so far) to Markus's 2700 points, but that's just me.
No it isn't.
One is transformative. The other isn't!
Kam is a good player, surrounded by other good players, who may or may not lead his team to greatness.
Markus is the all time leading scorer in the Big East, let alone MU.
Kam's story isn't done being written. At this moment, I will take Markus
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2025, 10:30:12 AMKam is a good player, surrounded by other good players, who may or may not lead his team to greatness.
Markus is the all time leading scorer in the Big East, let alone MU.
Kam's story isn't done being written. At this moment, I will take Markus
First Lowery not being in your starting 5 for next year. Now Howard > kam.
Dang man, we are opposites.
We will both be ok.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2025, 11:05:18 AMWe will both be ok.
Unleash may not be ok if they don't like being in a straight jacket. #CrazyTown
#M2N
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 11, 2025, 09:36:27 AMI prefer Kam's achievement of three NCAA tourney wins (so far) to Markus's 2700 points, but that's just me.
You're comparing a team achievement to an individual achievement. And one in which, at least the two previous seasons, Kam was not the guy driving the bus.
Would the last three years' teams have made the tourney with Markus instead of Kam? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
Would Markus' teams been better with Kam instead of Markus? Not so obvious.
A career .427 3 point shooter would be useful this season.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 11, 2025, 11:35:57 AMYou're comparing a team achievement to an individual achievement. And one in which, at least the two previous seasons, Kam was not the guy driving the bus.
Would the last three years' teams have made the tourney with Markus instead of Kam? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
Would Markus' teams been better with Kam instead of Markus? Not so obvious.
Now THATS a thought. Even if you just take this year's team and do a 1-for-1 swap of Kam for Markus I think the ceiling is higher. The defense takes a step back, sure, but the offense is a lot more consistent. You can't zone Markus Howard. And there are second (Joplin) and third (Chase) and fourth (Stevie, etc) options better than what Markus dealt with, especially his senior year.
Plus the coaching is better under Shaka than it was under Wojo.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2025, 11:42:06 AMA career .427 3 point shooter would be useful this season.
Nah. Damarius Owens is a career 45% 3 point shooter and they rarely use him.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on February 11, 2025, 10:06:37 AMWe should hang a banner next to the 0-2 in ncaa tournament appearances one.
Brad Johnson > Dan Marino
Trent Dilfer > Jim Kelly
If we get a nice comfy lead, I hope Shaka makes Stevie stay out there with the bench players and take open 3's. Maybe if he sees some going in he'd get over the rather obvious reticence we saw last time out and it would help us going forward.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 11, 2025, 12:32:02 PMIf we get a nice comfy lead, I hope Shaka makes Stevie stay out there with the bench players and take open 3's. Maybe if he sees some going in he'd get over the rather obvious reticence we saw last time out and it would help us going forward.
Nope, I hope he rests him take load off tendinitis
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 11, 2025, 12:32:02 PMIf we get a nice comfy lead, I hope Shaka makes Stevie stay out there with the bench players and take open 3's. Maybe if he sees some going in he'd get over the rather obvious reticence we saw last time out and it would help us going forward.
I would prefer the exact opposite if we get a nice comfy lead. No need to put extra wear and tear on the achilles.
I just want everyone to have a good time.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 11, 2025, 01:36:55 PMI just want everyone to have a good time.
And be nice to our opponents. Shaka and the team should invite the Depaul players to join them for the post-game milkshakes. Except Rivara.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 11, 2025, 01:39:02 PMAnd be nice to our opponents. Shaka and the team should invite the Depaul players to join them for the post-game milkshakes. Except Rivara.
Post game milkshakes are only for road wins......so I hope DePaul won't be having any either........
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 11, 2025, 12:32:02 PMIf we get a nice comfy lead, I hope Shaka makes Stevie stay out there with the bench players and take open 3's. Maybe if he sees some going in he'd get over the rather obvious reticence we saw last time out and it would help us going forward.
The insane thing about Stevie refusing to shoot for the last 36 minutes of the Creighton game is that he nailed his first two 3s to get things started.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on February 11, 2025, 02:45:20 PMThe insane thing about Stevie refusing to shoot for the last 36 minutes of the Creighton game is that he nailed his first two 3s to get things started.
He kept shooting. He missed his last 8.
It has been a little wild how much the 3 pt shooting regressed. Way too much thinking out there. Need more hoopin'
Let's hope Revera does not go on a tear like the last game.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 11, 2025, 08:28:16 AMWith 9 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Lazar Hayward for third on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 35 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Jerel McNeal for second on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 911 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Markus Howard for first on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
I,ll take the under on 911 points
Not a good start tonight. I swear my phone calendar said tonight's game was another 5:30 start. I'm sitting here waiting for the Peacock stream to start and only now do I see it doesn't start for 2 hours.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 11, 2025, 08:28:16 AMWith 9 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Lazar Hayward for third on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 35 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Jerel McNeal for second on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 911 points tonight, Kam Jones would pass Markus Howard for first on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
If he doesn't get at least 10, we know why...
https://x.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/1889360407426674870?t=mSrJzT5VvwEm1lDd4qiZDA&s=19
Quote from: tower912 on February 10, 2025, 05:37:53 PMFeel free to put your money where your mouth and heart are.
Setting myself up for skewering. I did. And fortunately it meant I thought MU would still win, and not cover. Unfortunately, easy money.