Giddyup. Opportunities for greatness await.
Again, the mentally is we are not losing this game. I still feel very strongly MU is the best team in the BEast. Granted, we haven't seen it the last few weeks but the pieces are there. Kam is due to break out but we need a complete team performance. It's not complicated: drain open shots and finish strong. We are more than capable of owning this game and getting back on track.
I'm with you Muggs. Big opportunity here. Hopefully the experience they have accumulated over the past several years pays dividends tonight.
Hopefully some of the pressure our guys have been feeling has alleviated. Should be a hostile environment but nothing we won't be ready for. Expecting a good bounce back. Is it too early to start complaining about the MSG refs?
Accept that SJU is going to get the calls.
UCONN shoots 37% from the 3 but shot 63% on Saturday. If we play our game, we have a shot, and I don't think the Johnnies will shoot 60% from 3. I would think the team would be more motivated and focused after Saturday's game. UCONN needed that game more than we did. Tonight, we need this game more than St. John's just to prove we can win the "big" game. I think we'll know what kind of team we have after tonight's game.
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2025, 07:48:10 AMAccept that SJU is going to get the calls.
Every team gets the calls against us, even when we play at home.
After watching Iowa State lose by double digits again last night, I'm more convinced than ever that we suck eggs
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 04, 2025, 07:54:40 AMUCONN shoots 37% from the 3 but shot 63% on Saturday. If we play our game, we have a shot, and I don't think the Johnnies will shoot 60% from 3. I would think the team would be more motivated and focused after Saturday's game. UCONN needed that game more than we did. Tonight, we need this game more than St. John's just to prove we can win the "big" game. I think we'll know what kind of team we have after tonight's game.
I think tonight will be more about what Marquette does than what the Johnnie's do.
Like UConn on Saturday, MU will likely need an out of character shooting night to win the game.
Something like 14+ made 3s in the Mecca will do it
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 04, 2025, 08:11:05 AMAfter watching Iowa State lose by double digits again last night, I'm more convinced than ever that we suck eggs
3 pt dogs, won't cover
Early game, so bong work starts at noon.
Good news is 1 seed has to play early on Thursday. 2 or 3 and we get a Thursday night game. #BET #COLE
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 04, 2025, 08:35:19 AMEarly game, so bong work starts at noon.
You must live in Hawaii.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 04, 2025, 09:02:48 AMYou must live in Hawaii.
Nope. He lives in Lala Land. It's whatever time you want it to be there.
STJ does not shoot the ball well, but they are very athletic, play defense aggressively, and rebound well. STJ will be a very tough matchup.
Quote from: rgoode57 on February 04, 2025, 09:19:20 AMSTJ does not shoot the ball well, but they are very athletic, play defense aggressively, and rebound well. STJ will be a very tough matchup.
Quote from: DoctorV on February 04, 2025, 08:13:37 AMI think tonight will be more about what Marquette does than what the Johnnie's do.
Like UConn on Saturday, MU will likely need an out of character shooting night to win the game.
Something like 14+ made 3s in the Mecca will do it
Nice to see a realistic take here.
Of course Marquette will be chomping at the bit to prove themselves after the UCONN game. And St. Johns, atop the BE standings and, after years of not being in the spotlight, will be pumped to prove themselves before a loud crowd at MSG. My point? It's going to take a LOT more than motivation to win this game because both sides are highly motivated, and one side has the home court advantage. Rah rah rah is not going to cut it.
The bolded says a lot. Who will win the D battle? Will Marquette's offense look like it did earlier in the season?
Marquette's gonna need to make a bunch of threes. This version of the Johnnies is well equipped to shut our water off at the basket and in PNR.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 04, 2025, 09:49:32 AMWho will win the D battle?
Stats say the Johnnies defense is elite, will be the toughest we've faced this year. Even better than ISU.
We can beat them, but it's highly unlikely we'll torch them. I'll hope for the unlikely regardless.
Quote from: MUfan12 on February 04, 2025, 09:57:40 AMMarquette's gonna need to make a bunch of threes. This version of the Johnnies is well equipped to shut our water off at the basket and in PNR.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 04, 2025, 10:06:30 AMStats say the Johnnies defense is elite, will be the toughest we've faced this year. Even better than ISU.
Agree completely with the threes and SJU D. Stating the obvious-a loss is never, ever a good outcome- regardless of the final score, I think this game will tell us a lot about our team.
Edit: SJU now 2.5 favorite.
I'll be happy if they don't lose by 20
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 07:26:14 AMAgain, the mentally is we are not losing this game. I still feel very strongly MU is the best team in the BEast. Granted, we haven't seen it the last few weeks but the pieces are there. Kam is due to break out but we need a complete team performance. It's not complicated: drain open shots and finish strong. We are more than capable of owning this game and getting back on track.
I don't believe strongly that MU is the best team in the BE.
More like MU, SJ, Creighton and UConn are all good but not great........we can win the conference but we aren't the favorite........SJ is.
https://nypost.com/2025/02/04/sports/st-johns-biggest-week-in-25-years-starts-tonight-vs-marquette/
Agree w those suggesting we need to have above average 3 pt shooting night to win. Pitino knows what he is doing and they are strong defensively. I would take SJ and giving the 2.5. Would actually give up to 5 pts.
Have a good feeling. Need Joplin to regain the magic at the 3 pt line. Saw some of it against UConn.
Same with Kam. "Killa" Kam plays looser and more fearless. Lots of those shots aren't 100% conviction from the 3 line.
It really does feel like they are way too much in their heads and not "hoopin" like last year. Target is off for now--get back to feeling like you have a chip on your shoulder and have some fun out there, guys!
Less than 48 hours after an emotional, two-shot loss, they are on a plane to face a very good team on the road.
Honestly this is a recipe for a very long night.
Quote from: rgoode57 on February 04, 2025, 09:19:20 AMSTJ does not shoot the ball well, but they are very athletic, play defense aggressively, and rebound well. STJ will be a very tough matchup.
Quote from: MuMark on February 04, 2025, 10:32:33 AMI don't believe strongly that MU is the best team in the BE.
More like MU, SJ, Creighton and UConn are all good but not great........we can win the conference but we aren't the favorite........SJ is.
1- I would guess Marquette won't have as many rebounding opportunities with as much as they tickle the twine from deep.
StJ will miss a lot of shots, so Marquettes main concentration has to be defensive rebounding and boxing out/clearing out. Cannot allow the Johnnie's to O rebound and get easy putbacks.
2- Marquette will be the favorite at 8pm tonight
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 04, 2025, 10:06:30 AMStats say the Johnnies defense is elite, will be the toughest we've faced this year. Even better than ISU.
We can beat them, but it's highly unlikely we'll torch them. I'll hope for the unlikely regardless.
We'll see. Not exactly a murderer's row they've played. Kenpom offensive ranks for every opponent below. This will only be their third game against a Top50 offense. They were completely shredded in one of their other games (Baylor).
Fordham: 197
Quinnipiac: 259
Wagner: 352
New Mexico: 75
Baylor: 12 (StJ got shredded)
Virginia:144
Georgia: 82
Harvard: 281
Kansas St: 73
Bryant: 136
DePaul: 114
Providence: 72
Delaware: 137
Creighton: 52
Butler: 54
Xavier: 59
Villanova: 15
Georgetown: 185
Seton Hall: 256
Xavier: 59
Georgetown: 185
Providence: 72
MU: 27
3 keys
1. Rebound missed shots
2. Force a lot of Stj turnovers
3. Make a higher percentage of our 3point shots than our current average
St. Johns is beatable but we need to bring our A game all game long.
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 04, 2025, 11:41:31 AMThey were completely shredded in one of their other games (Baylor).
Which was still a 1 point, 2OT loss. On a neutral floor. Hah
And their defense has been improving since then. They have 3 losses by a combined 5 points. It's not their amazing offense keeping them in games.
If MU can "break" their defense, we win easily. If not, it's likely a close game.
Time for marquette to punch someone in the mouth.
Or who knows maybe we will see them practicing in white t's until they earn their warmups.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 04, 2025, 09:02:48 AMYou must live in Hawaii.
Nope 5:30 CT, 6:30 ET and 7:30 here. Normally 9:30 + start here so early for me.
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 04, 2025, 02:07:37 PMNope 5:30 CT, 6:30 ET and 7:30 here. Normally 9:30 + start here so early for me.
You know tonight's game is not in Saint John, Nova Scotia, right?
Quote from: barfolomew on February 04, 2025, 02:53:17 PMYou know tonight's game is not in Saint John, Nova Scotia, right?
You realize he lives in Puerto Rico right?
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/xT9IgHCTfp8CRshfQk/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952f7z9wn68o90tkdyhlrd703dk8pkh7e47aykijzjg&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Quote from: barfolomew on February 04, 2025, 02:56:44 PM(https://media3.giphy.com/media/xT9IgHCTfp8CRshfQk/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952f7z9wn68o90tkdyhlrd703dk8pkh7e47aykijzjg&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Yeah, same time zone
Quote from: barfolomew on February 04, 2025, 02:53:17 PMYou know tonight's game is not in Saint John, Nova Scotia, right?
Saint John is in Newfoundland. Perhaps we'll be adding Memorial University to the Big East to get a a CBC broadcasting deal. Go Sea-Hawks
Don't like our chances tonight at all, but I felt good we'd handle UConn at home. Hope I'm wrong twice in a row.
Quote from: DoctorV on February 04, 2025, 11:15:50 AM1- I would guess Marquette won't have as many rebounding opportunities with as much as they tickle the twine from deep.
StJ will miss a lot of shots, so Marquettes main concentration has to be defensive rebounding and boxing out/clearing out. Cannot allow the Johnnie's to O rebound and get easy putbacks.
2- Marquette will be the favorite at 8pm tonight
Yes those 2 are certainly likely.......unfortunately St John's is a great offensive rebounding team and MU is Leah at defensive rebounding..........SJ also defends the pick and roll tremendously and will be the best or one of the best defensive teams we have played.
We might win.....I hope we do......but we aren't the favorite.....but yes if we are ahead when the game is over I guess we would be the favorite then...... :P
I don't know why it's so hard to look at things the way they are as opposed to the way we want them to be?
James Breeding, Tim Clougherty, and Tony Henderson
It's not hard.
On Saturday the way it was supposed to be and that way we wanted it to be lined up perfectly, but what was supposed to happen was just a dream.
Hopefully tonight aligns better with what we want rather than how it's posed to be
LFG!!!!! Gotta find a way and get back to playing elite hoops.
Just sinned
CHAT ROOM IS OPEN!! Max is 10 at a time.. be the difference!!
https://us25.chatzy.com/74146129955420
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 04, 2025, 05:17:46 PMJust sinned
Dropped the mortgage on SJU covering and Marquette to finish below 10.5 BE wins
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 04, 2025, 11:09:58 AMHave a good feeling. Need Joplin to regain the magic at the 3 pt line. Saw some of it against UConn.
Same with Kam. "Killa" Kam plays looser and more fearless. Lots of those shots aren't 100% conviction from the 3 line.
It really does feel like they are way too much in their heads and not "hoopin" like last year. Target is off for now--get back to feeling like you have a chip on your shoulder and have some fun out there, guys!
Exactly right. Play with no hesitation and supreme confidence.
Chase!
Knock that down Benny. Let's go now.
Ugh Stevie
Focus Stevie.
x2 Stevie
Our offense is some of the ugliest crap, looks like wojo coached
Well the offense seems much improved from Saturday.
Mid range Jop!
Shaka very upset. Sloppy and indecisive.
Catch the Ball!!!
Kam not even looking to score. Shaka is yelling at him about as animated as I've seen Shaka yell. Then he picks up a stupid foul.
Wow. Kam way off.
What is this offense?
Terrible thus far!!
Team plays hard. Never in doubt but Jesus this first 4 is just atypical. A chance to get to a hot start
Ben bricks a open 3. Kam bad pass. Stevie throws the ball over the hoop. Jop with his typical playing for the other team nonsenese shot. Stevie great steal then inexplicably throws it away. for 2
Two missed rebounds.
There's no questioning the fight. But I just don't know how anyone can think this team is right.
Their physicality is killing us.
Tre Norman is pathetic
He cannot play in games like these
Not a good start for Kam. He can barely hang on to the ball.
Good grief – another garbage start.
The guys look scared.
And another slow start: jop just lacks the speed to warrant the amount of one on ones
Kam, not a good thought
Poor shot selection so far. Let's Go Marquette!
Kam is a tremendous idiot on the defensive end. Absolutely no reason to put himself and the team in that position.
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/GrvUadxhb5WgGiqoWJNcdspjuts=/0x0:2091x1673/1200x800/filters:focal(876x300:1210x634)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63339139/1070832956.jpg.0.jpg)
He's back
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 05:41:46 PMTre Norman is pathetic
He cannot play in games like these
Not gonna fault him for being aggressive when nobody else has been.
Kam has to be so much smarter.
Kam is a complete idiot.
We can't even pass the ball. For being supposedly a offensive savant, what Nevada smith has got going on right now is just trash and not working
kam boxing the clown aina
At least some scoopers are getting their wish as MU has taken a few mid range shots so far.
What has happened to Kam Jones?
This team truly boils down to Kam
He's been in a massive funk for too long. Just doesn't have the effiicient take over and we need it
Otherwise we have to deal with Joplins shot selection to slump bust us which is the basketball version of terrorism.
Yet another terrible start. Team not ready to play...again.
You simply cannot pick up those kinds of fouls if your Kam. Our lack of poise is infuriating with our experience.
Quote from: BM1090 on February 04, 2025, 05:43:08 PMNot gonna fault him for being aggressive when nobody else has been.
Kam has to be so much smarter.
We can fault him for simply not improving and having any real skillset in a game like this.
Easy money. Nice.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 04, 2025, 05:43:49 PMWhat has happened to Kam Jones?
Kinda sucks, started off year looking like best guard in college ball and just completely fallen off of that
Looks like we're little brother playing big brother.
This team has flameout written all over it.
CATCH
THE
BALL
WTF??
Already getting out hustled on every loose ball.
Down by just 6 not too bad
3 freaking points, 2 missed rebs on FT attempts?
Excellent kick from Chase.
Here we go again. Outrebounded, Bricks by Ben Kam and Jop. Getting outhustled and outboardrd. More of the same as UConn. No 3 point shooters
Only good thing about our play the last like 10 games. Is Chase is slowly turning into more of an all around player
Excellent drive and kick
Chase Ross is our best player. Kam Jones is our All American.
That combo has the potential to take us places if Kam remembers he is that All American.
Regardless gonna be tough to win if Kadary is drilling 20 footers
Richmond has been so good from midrange
Count that!!! LFG!!!
At this point, Ill credit the accidentally bank from Tre. Need something.
We aren't very fundamentally sound. Lot of dumb plays.
Good god Jop
Is that enough to call Tre on fire?
Total slop fest
Horrible turnover from Jop but I thought he went straight up.
Get your head out of your ass Joplin or get on the bench.
Richmond lighting up the midrange with rhythm jumpers.
Two of our best defensive plays so far have been immediately negated by throwing the ball away for absolutely no reason
Surprised Kam is coming back in.
They called that on Tre instead of Jop?
FYI to anyone new...every St Johns game is sloppy.
All their games look horrible.
Excellent move fron RP.
Wow Royce
Elite from Royce. Whew!
That was Royce's best offensive play of the year
Let's go now!!!
That's pretty from Royce
Wow. Nice to see what Royce can do when he doesn't immediately shoot a 3.
Where has that been?
All tied up at the garden!
Beautiful Parham
So far the bench has shown more poise than the starters.
Someone on the SJ bench crying for a travel on that Royce move...phuck off
Thats what we need out of Parham. Playing down low, not jacking 3s.
Good response. Need a little something from Kam here.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 05:44:47 PMWe can fault him for simply not improving and having any real skillset in a game like this.
He's clearly improved. Maybe not as much as you or I have liked, but he's been significantly better the last 5 games or so.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 05:52:15 PMThats what we need out of Parham. Playing down low, not jacking 3s.
I want him shooting some threes too, but that was a fantastic, patient move against a good defense.
When the hell is Goldbrick going to wake up from his zombie walk and start making some baskets?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 05:47:32 PMHere we go again. Outrebounded, Bricks by Ben Kam and Jop. Getting outhustled and outboardrd. More of the same as UConn. No 3 point shooters
Content yourself with your multitudinous shortcomings and failures, for they are your best features, Dung Willie
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 05:50:01 PMGet your head out of your ass Joplin or get on the bench.
The wise man pauses to appreciate the small wonders in his life, and does not concern himself with Ramsey's rectum, Dung Willie
Do we not practice boxing out on FT's?
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 04, 2025, 05:54:01 PMContent yourself with your multitudinous shortcomings and failures, for they are your best features, Dung Willie
I'm impressed he remembered there was a game today. He missed the Butler game
Quote from: BM1090 on February 04, 2025, 05:52:52 PMHe's clearly improved. Maybe not as much as you or I have liked, but he's been significantly better the last 5 games or so.
I think they just said he entered today with 8 pts in 6 games.
He had a nice stretch vs Butler. But even one of those buckets was basically zaide attacking and drawing the D and rebound falling in his lap
Ill take anything. But we in big trouble if these are the improvements.
ZL!!!
Wow great take by Zaide too
I like this. Instead of shooting 3 pt bricks. Lets pump fake and drive!
ZL!!!
Holy crap kam is lucky
More Zaide!!
He's our best bench player right now with Royce.
Infinitely better than Norman
Be smarter, Kam. Great answer by everyone else.
Was Kam only good due to DEI
Can't believe they didn't call Kam for the charge. The Bench!!
Great answer. Keep playing smart.
Love me some zaide
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 05:53:35 PMWhen the hell is Goldbrick going to wake up from his zombie walk and start making some baskets?
Scoopers are as unlikely to remain untouched by your presence as is a single stalk of grain when the plague of hungry locusts comes ravishing, Dung Willie
Gotta rebound.
Smith blew by literally 3 guys too easily on that one. Results in another O board.
The refs are going to call so many fouls in the 2nd half
Why the fug did he take out Zaide?
8 offensive rebounds. Why the hell is Goldbrick in there? He isnt even rebounding.
Bench Jones.
Kams 3 pt shot is horrendous
I don't think its coming back.
Wide open. Stepping into it. That isn't tired legs of PG duty.
Benny!!
What the hell did I just see?
I'm dumbfounded by Kam's shooting.
Fouls becoming a concern.
Man the boys are being aggressive inside. No complaints there. Meanwhile, crap call against Gold.
Kam "Derrick wilson" jones.... I mean jk but damn can't hit one
Better learn to defend a back cut!!
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 06:00:07 PMKams 3 pt shot is horrendous
I don't think its coming back.
Wide open. Stepping into it. That isn't tired legs of PG duty.
Beyond perplexing.
That was a foul on Zuby.
Joplin getting scorched defensively.
Stevie back door ... again!
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 05:59:29 PM8 offensive rebounds. Why the hell is Goldbrick in there? He isnt even rebounding.
Far-sighted perception that leaves Scoopers agog, Dung Willie
Another horrible TO. Good god
He's standing out of bounds and it fell on him. How do they miss that?
WTF?? That's our ball.
Will we ever get a D reb??? Play with some fking tenacity.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 05:59:48 PMBench Jones.
Meditations that strike with the force of putrid excrement, Dung Willie
How do you miss that call and not correct it?
St John's turning horrific offense into second chances is an unparalleled ability
Refs just being blatantly blind on the out of bounds.
Just gettin killed on the boards. 10 offensive rebounds. Killing our ass.
Inbounding defense has been an issue all year
Excellent take from Zaide. Keep it up.
Zaide
Keep him in there right now. He's the team
Everyone else blows and has no desire to rebound
Quote from: Shaka Shart on February 04, 2025, 06:03:27 PMSt John's turning horrific offense into second chances is an unparalleled ability
Put em in the Big 10
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 06:00:07 PMKams 3 pt shot is horrendous
I don't think its coming back.
Wide open. Stepping into it. That isn't tired legs of PG duty.
It doesn't even look like the same shot. If you want to feel worse, then go back and look at how his shot used to look. Way different. Broken shot.
We should leave the bench in the game. They showed up tonight.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:03:43 PMJust gettin killed on the boards. 10 offensive rebounds. Killing our ass.
Purify your mind of unclean thoughts, like those you have of equines, Dung Willie
Do we not practice BOOB D?
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:01:10 PMMan the boys are being aggressive inside. No complaints there. Meanwhile, crap call against Gold.
Really. 10 offensive boards by the Johnnies already. They are the aggressive ones.
Zaide and Chase need all the minutes they can muster until Kam and Jop get right
Zaide looks like he wants to take that next step in his young career. He's got IT.
We are 8/15 and 4/7 from 3.
Issue is we are tied in the TO battle with dumb Tos
They have 6 more shots with a 7-0 O rebounding edge
And we have no free throws. And Kam has 0 pts
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 04, 2025, 06:04:22 PMIt doesn't even look like the same shot. If you want to feel worse, then go back and look at how his shot used to look. Way different. Broken shot.
Too much studying his press clippings.
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 04, 2025, 06:04:22 PMIt doesn't even look like the same shot. If you want to feel worse, then go back and look at how his shot used to look. Way different. Broken shot.
You don't have to go back to look to remember that beautiful kiss the sky J.
His shot is clearly way off
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 04, 2025, 06:05:36 PMZaide looks like he wants to take that next step in his young career. He's got IT.
He'll probably go to FSU with Shaka. SMDH
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 06:03:06 PMHow
Because it landed on the SJ dude before it hit the ground or anything else out of bounds
Quote from: DoctorV on February 04, 2025, 06:05:27 PMZaide and Chase need all the minutes they can muster until Kam and Jop get right
Our guys have to rebound Dr.V. Driving me up the wall.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:07:25 PMOur guys have to rebound Dr.V. Driving me up the wall.
Have you ever tried bath salts?
ZZZZ!!!!!!
Did not need that shot by Chase. But great rebound
And Zaide again!!
Someone's earning minutes
LFG!!!
Damn. We gotta hit drive and kick open 3s in a game like this
Jop lol
Just non stop with this guy
Wake up Jop!! Catch the ball.
Catch the gd ball guys
Jop needs to grab some pine.
Thatta boy Caedin!!! Use your power.
Who woulda thought Kam and Jop have been our worst players and Stevie has done nothing notable? Yet up by 2
lol Kam
WTF!!! That was 5 secs.
That is one of the dumbest basketball plays I've seen a player do. What the hell Kam?
OMG Kam
What in the hell dude
Kam is just killing us. Dang near tempted to sit his ass the whole game
Kam just straight up costing this team a shot at this game.
Absolute killer sequence.
Wait you can change obviously wrong calls?!?
He's point shaving. Massive scandal
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 04, 2025, 06:13:27 PMThat is one of the dumbest basketball plays I've seen a player do. What the hell Kam?
Inexcusable.
That Kam foul is one of the dumbest plays in the history of the program.
He's always putting himself in unnecessary spots to foul. But that was legit insane.
Kam's third firmly on Shaka. I love Shaka, terrible decisions
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQqDqSrNKvaGgvswHmNWIeMELwC7i5NkrNWYQ&s)
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:06:20 PMToo much studying his press clippings.
Vertiginous contemplations, Dung Willie
Our 3 Seniors desperately need to wake up.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on February 04, 2025, 06:14:38 PMKam's third firmly on Shaka. I love Shaka, terrible decisions
I hear you Jump but WTF?? He's gotta be smarter. We've seen this multiple games.
I've need seen a star guard stupidly foul himself into foul trouble as much as kam
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on February 04, 2025, 06:14:38 PMKam's third firmly on Shaka. I love Shaka, terrible decisions
Why? He's been going offense for defense for awhile. Kam had no business putting himself into that action. Unless you're going to quit quibble with him switching on defense
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:15:29 PMOur 3 Seniors desperately need to wake up.
Right now, I much prefer seeing the bench along with Chase out there.
I hope we hang onto a lead into half and Shaka benches Kam to start the 2nd half...
1) out of necessity to preserve his minutes so we have him later
2) to send a message
He needs to figure it out.
Very key 3 min here.
How is SJU not in the bonus? Preposterous
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:13:07 PMWTF!!! That was 5 secs.
I was starting to think I missed the NCAA eliminating the rule
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:16:37 PMWhy? He's been going offense for defense for awhile. Kam had no business putting himself into that action. Unless you're going to quit quibble with him switching on defense
Yeah and they'd been fine on both sides of the ball with those subs. That's solely on Kam. It's a big game. He wanted to leave his guy he trusted on the floor. Happens all the time. Can't do that if you're Kam.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on February 04, 2025, 06:14:38 PMKam's third firmly on Shaka. I love Shaka, terrible decisions
Its on Shaka forhis senior leader and best player committing a foul that implies he's on bath salts??
All Shaka can do is assume baseline intelligence. Sadly, Kam is joining Jop in the no bball IQ category right now.
Being point has wrecked Kam
Now Jop is falling asleep on D.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:16:23 PMI hear you Jump but WTF?? He's gotta be smarter. We've seen this multiple games.
No doubt he does, but he hasn't been!
Strong take by Chase.
The good news is we are slowly going from a MEAC team without Kam to a team that can compete for decent stretches without Kam
Bad news is. Our ceiling is dependent on Kam not being the Kam he's been for a while right now.
We'll take that.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 04, 2025, 06:17:45 PMI was starting to think I missed the NCAA eliminating the rule
For some reason I thought they had
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:18:48 PMStrong take by Chase.
Willie loves talking about ass pounding
T up Pitino.
Point Chase?!?!?!
Guys need to be ready to shoot on his drives.
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:16:37 PMWhy? He's been going offense for defense for awhile. Kam had no business putting himself into that action. Unless you're going to quit quibble with him switching on defense
Kam had been adding very little on either end, and had two fouls
L
O
L
How is Pitino not getting T'd up?
Jop at the line shooting 3 will never result in making all 3.
Focus Jop!! Smh.
How on earth is Jop 82%?
No matter, I'm told
Shane's demand
Total lack of focus. Inexcusable.
Jop lmao
You just cannot rely on this guy.
Misses all 3 hahahahaha
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:21:54 PMFocus Jop!! Smh.
Shades of the NC State game last year in the tournament – pathetic.
That was pathetic. Just like NC State
The Jop wagon is from here on out retired until further notice.
Joplin just sucks right now good god dude just absolutely terrible
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 04, 2025, 06:17:45 PMI was starting to think I missed the NCAA eliminating the rule
Holy free throws. I'm sorry, but Joplin is hurting us big time tonight.
OMG
Insanely idiotic decisions by Seniors. Extremely upsetting.
Joplin can't do anything else wrong, can he?
Joplin and Kam have killed us this half!!
Nanci's Jensen
Most embarrassing half of basketball for our seniors.
Nc State Joplin is here
Ready to blow torch any good will
Just pathetic what he does as a 4 year player if we are not playing some trash team in a small gym.
Bailout!
Jop has been abysmal.
I spoke to soon
Gotta sit Jop. Enough.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 04, 2025, 06:23:41 PMJoplin can't do anything else wrong, can he?
Hold his beer
Joplin sucks
I'm just going to keep getting stoned boys.
SIT JOPLIN
This guy is not a team guy. He is ok with derailing any game where he clearly doesn't have it.
Just horrendous leadership
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:24:49 PMHold his beer
Him drinking beer MIGHT explain the level of play
Ross is our best player.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 06:25:03 PMSIT JOPLIN
This guy is not a team guy. He is ok with derailing any game where he clearly doesn't have it.
Just horrendous leadership
Is everything going ok at home?
Great half for Chase and ZL.
We are shooting 57% and have 31 pts
Chase and Zaide are saving us. While Kam and the mad bomber are are killing it
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 04, 2025, 06:25:50 PMRoss is our best player.
Him and Zaide have been fantastic.
If we win this Kam and Jop need to pay their next NIL checks to zaide and chase. I can't remember such a trash half from 2 seniors
As I said to my kid, I think we're okay. Protect and value the ball, and we will win. Disappointed in Kam and some other decisions, but good fight outta the boys in a tough environment. Also, Zaide. He's a dude.
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 04, 2025, 06:25:50 PMRoss is our best player.
Chase looks phenomenal lately
The biggest bright spot
And he needs to be the #2 to Kam. With Stevie picking his spots
Jop needs to just sit in the corner and rebound on D
Well, this half has destroyed my confidence in the short-term but restored some optimism in next year.
Great D by Royce!
Do we have a play here?
I guess not.
Halftime with the lead. I'll take it.
Lefteris Litupoulos
A lead with LEGITIMATE negatives from Kam and Joplin is great.
Come on now!
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 04, 2025, 06:29:46 PMHalftime with the lead. I'll take it.
I have my doubts Marquette can overcome that deficit
This is game is right there for us. Our Srs. have to show up.
Looking forward to the best of the game thread thread. I'm sure there's some classic stuff in the first 12 pages.
well, we're not 13 points behind.
David and Kam with a brutal half.
Stevie back to being too passive.
Let's see what the 2H brings
Zaide and Chase. Fantastic.
Royce. Very good contributions
Norman. Bank shot.
Ben serviceable
Stevie bad but serviceable
Do. N/A
Kam. Drunk
Jop. Literal Hell.
Didn't really show up in the box score but thought Parham gave us some good minutes. The whole bench was great.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 04, 2025, 06:29:56 PMA lead with LEGITIMATE negatives from Kam and Joplin is great.
Come on now!
Jones and Joplin, both seniors, both playing with their heads up their asses. Doubtful Joplin pulls it out. Starting to wonder if Jones will also, this year
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 04, 2025, 06:29:53 PMLefteris Litupoulos
Fitting that Leftist Lintopolous ends up in New York City
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 04, 2025, 06:30:20 PMI have my doubts Marquette can overcome that deficit
Did the walk-ons make the trip? If so, Shaka should just play them in the second half.
Can they play the 2nd half with 2 1/2 Chase Ross' and 2 1/2 Zaide Lowerys? Everyone else been subpar.
Gonna probably need 14 3s to win like I mentioned in the pregame
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:32:58 PMJones and Joplin, both seniors, both playing with their heads up their asses. Doubtful Joplin pulls it out. Starting to wonder if Jones will also, this year
Joplin's turnovers, Kam's fouls. Played like freshmen.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 04, 2025, 06:30:34 PMLooking forward to the best of the game thread thread. I'm sure there's some classic stuff in the first 12 pages.
I have reversed course just for that reason and now hope Marquette wins despite the loss to my pocketbook
Quote from: DoctorV on February 04, 2025, 06:33:53 PMGonna probably need 14 3s to win like I mentioned in the pregame
That's probably excessive.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 06:32:00 PMZaide and Chase. Fantastic.
Royce. Very good contributions
Norman. Bank shot.
Ben serviceable
Stevie bad but serviceable
Do. N/A
Kam. Drunk
Jop. Literal Hell.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:30:22 PMThis is game is right there for us. Our Srs. have to show up.
Goldbrick is not serviceable.
What is up with Kam?
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 04, 2025, 06:32:29 PMDidn't really show up in the box score but thought Parham gave us some good minutes. The whole bench was great.
Everyone not named Kam Jones and David Joplin being aggressive and playing within themselves. Made a couple 3s and used that to get to the rim. Stevie could assert himself a bit more. I don't think my heart can handle Kam or Jop asserting themselves more than they already have.
Marquette will win, spread depends on turnovers
Chase did a good job kicking on his drives. I would move Kam off the ball a bit.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:23:40 PMInsanely idiotic decisions by Seniors. Extremely upsetting.
Guess its all that development they have been getting.
Zaide and Chase have carried this team today.
Very disappointing that our 2 seniors are playing there worst ball of the year.
I would be OK if they sat for an extended period of time in the second half. I think a message needs to be sent.
Our guys are fighting through adversity and the second half is ours. Enjoying watching Gold banging with their big. The guy is a stud and Ben is holding his own
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:36:15 PMChase did a good job kicking on his drives. I would move Kam off the ball a bit.
Chase's speed is blistering, but it's controlled and he's finding guys. Kind of like Kam was earlier in the year. Offense looks so much more cohesive with Chase initiating right now.
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oKHWikxKFJhjArSXm/200.gif?cid=6c09b952nuk3070y7tj5lp1k07zycr3c4jnypurvqa47vnjl&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.gif&ct=g)
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:35:30 PMEveryone not named Kam Jones and David Joplin being aggressive and playing within themselves. Made a couple 3s and used that to get to the rim. Stevie could assert himself a bit more. I don't think my heart can handle Kam or Jop asserting themselves more than they already have.
Oddly feel more comfortable for next year. We have some players.
Quote from: Big Papi on February 04, 2025, 06:37:40 PMZaide and Chase have carried this team today.
Very disappointing that our 2 seniors are playing there worst ball of the year.
I would be OK if they sat for an extended period of time in the second half. I think a message needs to be sent.
Stevie has a goose egg too.
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:35:30 PMEveryone not named Kam Jones and David Joplin being aggressive and playing within themselves. Made a couple 3s and used that to get to the rim. Stevie could assert himself a bit more. I don't think my heart can handle Kam or Jop asserting themselves more than they already have.
It's one thing to shoot poorly but they have to make far better decisions. That's what's most frustrating.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:36:15 PMChase did a good job kicking on his drives. I would move Kam off the ball a bit.
I agree. He needs to be off the ball.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 06:36:15 PMChase did a good job kicking on his drives. I would move Kam off the ball a bit.
This is a big thing we are seeing
Chase while probably not ideal for long stretches. Can clearly attack and kick and move the ball
Make him a PG for stretches so Kam can stand and get his legs under him and maybe find his damn jump shot.
Not giving up on Kam and Jop in this one yet. They've both had big games in this building in bigger games than this.
St.J will bite on the shot-fake. ZL and RP had two outstanding plays getting them to jump.
Chase looks MUCH more controlled on his drives the last month or so, lines up with the same timeline that Kam has looked off
Our bench has 15 points.
Joplin is nearing Scott Merritt level senior year frustrations.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 04, 2025, 06:23:07 PMThe Jop wagon is from here on out retired until further notice.
The Jop wagon has careened into a ditch with an unrepairable drive system.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 06:20:17 PMPoint Chase?!?!?!
Guys need to be ready to shoot on his drives.
I'd be good with this for extended stretches to try to get Kam right.
The lack of composure and decision-making is the most surprising thing from Jop and Kam that half. Seems pretty clear Kam is pressing right now.
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 04, 2025, 06:39:42 PMNot giving up on Kam and Jop in this one yet. They've both had big games in this building in bigger games than this.
Good luck on that wish. Seniors should not play like this down the stretch.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:41:10 PMThe Jop wagon has careened into a ditch with an unrepairable drive system.
We are attempting to caulk and float, but the driver has a nasty bout of dysentery.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:41:10 PMThe Jop wagon has careened into a ditch with an unrepairable drive system.
All the passengers on the Jop Wagon contracted dysentery a'la Oregon Trail.
Is it wrong that I'd like to see Caedin for a few mins? He's a strong young man who can bang a bit. We have to rebound the freaking basketball.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:42:43 PMGood luck on that wish. Seniors should not play like this down the stretch.
Yes, seniors never go through slumps in January, February and March. Completely unheard of.
Playing with the lead not our forte
Classic shaka out of half play to try and get the boys going
But Stevie doesn't hit it
Kam sweet moves in the lane being far from automatic anymore is the most depressing thing.
Then we fail to get yet another rebound
Dreadful start to the half
Dammit. Ger a reb.
You can't just keep giving them second and third shots.
Stevie has been bad bad bad.
He just left his guy WIDE open for no reason.
Was there a foul there?
Ugh, the dumb passes tonight
Kam jones worst game of his MU career wtf
WTF is Kam doing???
Kam holy fu ck
This is the worst game he's ever played for us.. Total liability
Kam needs to sit for quality of play, not foul trouble
Kam benched.
Nice start guys. JFC
Need a time-out.
This is about to get ugly
The 3 seniors still look like they couldl care less and SJU is getting going
Stevie, what are you doing?
Mitchell had Ross wide open. He's not making his contested lay-ups.
Are Stevie, Kam and Jop on the take????
Those last two Stevie "drives" are just wow.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 04, 2025, 06:49:18 PMKam jones worst game of his MU career wtf
And he still has his head embedded. GBettinf asses kicked on rebounding.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/qyigDBae92P0M2fwfS/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952d0vtl440vmj2y5fkgzglieothwmqtgjpv6c7zgwr&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Mitchell has just jumped on the senior crap bandwagon after being unsure the first half
Catch the Ball!!!
Incredibly uninterested rebounding effort
Welp, dammit, totally outworked. Long way to go, but c'mon boys!
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 06:50:28 PMThis is about to get ugly
The 3 seniors still look like they couldl care less and SJU is getting going
It looks to me like they care too much. They are scared to make mistakes...and that's all their making.
This is an embarrassing start. It's no fun being the weaker and softer team. Wow. Bully ball.
GUTLESS rebounding
Just head home if this is what the effort is gonna be this half
Good grief – the starting five is starting the second half the same way they started the game.
Needed a TO before 18:00 mark - didn't take it.
Shaka waited too long. Absolutely horrid to come out like this in the 2H.
Ben gold has been a total ghost lately.
Shaka yelled VIOLENCE! But the fellas thought he screamed 'violins"
Playing like nobody smashed a whiteboard at the half
Unwatchable. Said after Dayton this is a 4 seed team at best and got my head bitten off. At this point I'd take a 4 seed and run.
Rebounding effort is absolutely terrible.
Game over, UConn, St. Johns and Creighton all outplaying MU this year. Shaka, get your ass going on the recruiting trail to fill the holes. Because we have lots of them, No rebounders, poor 3 point shooting, poor senior decision making, no banders underneath. Not BEast ready.
Our first series Jop passed up a wide open ten footer but it was a good kick to Stevie and he missed. Other than that we've had awful possessions and have shown a lack of poise/patience
Remember when our #1 drove effortlessly to the rim for layups? Those were the days
Brick shot Kam
This is just ridiculous play
This is brutal. I am completely lost regarding Kam's J.
Every layup is cowardly right now
Zero toughness in this team. Getting beat down
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 04, 2025, 06:55:15 PMRemember when our #1 drove effortlessly to the rim for layups? Those were the days
St.J is a very good interior D team. The floater is there.
Maybe I don't watch enough college ball but I can't remember a guy going from all American looking player to someone who is on track to not even be first team all conference.
Maybe RJ Davis has been this bad too? Haven't watched enough unc
I understand the Nevada Smith offense, but easy to defend. Don't have to defend the space between the 3 point line and the rim, and MU aint particularly good at the 3 point line.
Get RP back un the game.
Really frustrating to watch this team lately.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:54:48 PMGame over, UConn, St. Johns and Creighton all outplaying MU this year. Shaka, get your ass going on the recruiting trail to fill the holes. Because we have lots of them, No rebounders, poor 3 point shooting, poor senior decision making, no banders underneath. Not BEast ready.
The game is not over.
We have awful chemistry on offense. It's all one on one with very little passing.
Quote from: warriors141 on February 04, 2025, 06:57:48 PMMaybe I don't watch enough college ball but I can't remember a guy going from all American looking player to someone who is on track to not even be first team all conference.
Maybe RJ Davis has been this bad too? Haven't watched enough unc
It's insane guy has gotta be barely above 20% from 3 in big east play
Getting destroyed on the glass again. Needs to be addressed in the off season. Do not have a good front court rebounder on the entire team.
Honestly, Jop probably should be on bench. I hope I eat the words. But getting nothing out of the seniors and he's too sped up tonight.
And Kam looks like he's never shot a 3.
Goose egg the first 4 mins isn't ideal.
Quote from: Eye on February 04, 2025, 06:58:21 PMI understand the Nevada Smith offense, but easy to defend. Don't have to defend the space between the 3 point line and the rim, and MU aint particularly good at the 3 point line.
Having bad shooters and below the rim finishers doesn't seem like a good fit for this scheme. Probably works if you have NBA talent.
How long does Shaka need to stick with Gold?! He's worthless unless he's spotting up. Much better off the bench...I guess.
It's now or never.
Royce!!
Big shot from RP.
Kam is just begging for the 4th
Catch the fking ball!!! Kam very lucky not to get his 4th.
Unreal. We've had 8 rough games in a row. Let's Gooo Marquette!
Nice dime fron Jop.
Ross, Lowery and Parham it is.
This rebounding is all time bad
GRAB
A
REB!!!
Can we also stop committing insane fouls?
Oh...Come on. They call that??
Stevie biffs another bunny
Then stumbles into a foul
Comical
Jeesh. Wide open 3 footer. Ughhh.
Jesus Christ this officiating
Already in bonus
Just keep fouling!!!
Cut it to 2
Instantly back to 7
The refs are out for stevie i guess.
Brutally one-sided officiating the last few possessions.
Quote from: Eye on February 04, 2025, 07:02:11 PMRoss, Lowery and Parham it is.
Only 3 on the team who haven't regressed although baseline on RP and lowery was low
That and 1 foul call is infuriating.
All these years, I could have sworn you had to make contact with someone to foul them
Royce!!
RP!!!
Quote from: IL Warrior on February 04, 2025, 07:04:22 PMBrutally one-sided officiating the last few possessions.
They could have easily called number 4 on jones
Refs starting to take over
And then we foul them again
Getting BULLIED
This is crazy.
Our young dudes are the only ones with a pulse.
We aren't allowed to play defense anymore.
Nice foul disparity
Foul MU. Shocker.
That was a foul on St.John's that wasn't called
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 04, 2025, 07:05:27 PMRefs starting to take over
Wow to add that was a clear lane violation. Yep it's the MSG whistle in full effect.
Maybe that gets Kam going. Good no spin there.
Or not. Smh.
Kam is point shaving
These turn overs are incredible
Kill any momentum
Great defense? Kam literally dribbled out of bounds
Settle down. We're right there with everything that has gone wrong. Execute here and start usurping rebounds.
feel like John's is dominating. Hard to believe it's only 4
How about some ZL?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2025, 06:51:28 PMAnd he still has his head embedded. GBettinf asses kicked on rebounding.
The miasma of your words burns like the noxious stench of dentists with an overabundance of fiber in their diets, Dung Willie
2 straight games where the officials haven't given us any calls in the 2nd half whats going on??
I can't decide between laughing at these comments, or joining in with the crazy stuff I'm thinking.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/sQpSouhvwrW0tPigSW/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952odper6pdfv148eqjzgwom4elvx0gmtkikzgbt22y&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
Marquette is losing because they can't rebound. Please take a transfer big for one year.
I need us to win so badly just to see who the hell we have to pick for SOTG.
There we go Kam
That's it Kam. Let's go!!
Richmond is our daddy
And we literally cannot come back if BEn and CHase both are gonna miss those shots while they run down and dunk it
Now we get a foul.
Can't get over the huump
2nd foul of the half on St.J. Ha, ha ,ha
Get Royce back in.
Jop!!!
STOP FOULING
Horrendous game from Stevie
Kam starts stepping forward, Stevie takes his place in lala land
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 07:14:45 PMSTOP FOULING
Horrendous game from Stevie
Why??? He's not shooting from there. Fk.
Bets on how long Richmond will be out? BS
Covering Richmond that tight 30' from the hoop makes no sense. Let him take the 3.
Jop with the Shot clock prayer with 4 seconds on the clock. Nice
WTF Jop????
Dude, Jop, come on..
Think Jop is high
Right in front of bench wow!
Did Jop just shoot that with 6 on the clock? Hahahahahaha
The fouls are crazy.
Man we have been calling this contact super consistently
Kam with another horrendous lay up attempt
And now another foul
This team needs to try practicing
Pushoff
Kam is absolutely killing the team right now.
Kam another WIDE OPEN brick
Its not gonna improve ya'll. This is way too big a sample size right now
Kam jones with the worst regression 3 ball I've ever seen in college ball
I genuinely don't get Kam's regression
Kam is doing more harm than good.
Kam's shot is hard to understand.
Can we make a FT?
Boys, light the joint. The game is way more enjoyable.
Wow. We got a foul at the rim. Focus Kam.
KAM DRIBBLED ON THE FREE THROW AND MADE THEM BOTH
Why the f does kam intentionally foul
ANother foul
Kam got the ball on the block
Ridiculous.
Kam should be embarrassed tonight
Is review if it was a block, not a f1
Reviewing for a flagrant on a clean block. Typical Big East refs.
Another dumb play by Kam
"And he has avoided picking up his 4th...." 🤣
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 04, 2025, 07:20:21 PMKAM DRIBBLED ON THE FREE THROW AND MADE THEM BOTH
lol progress
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTKfMXh4VUhTt2yQxsAOKMbfgf4oGRbJBQYA&s)
Quote from: IL Warrior on February 04, 2025, 07:21:33 PMReviewing for a flagrant on a clean block. Typical Big East refs.
You can't make this up.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 04, 2025, 07:18:59 PMI genuinely don't get Kam's regression
Bring back the moon ball.
omfg. what a joke
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 04, 2025, 07:18:59 PMI genuinely don't get Kam's regression
He was talked about as POY in Non-Con he doesn't even look 1st team Big East lately
FLag 1 on Kam lol
Just a pitiful game from him tonight
This team needs leadership and it ain't happening
Are you fking kidding me?????
Basketball calls are pure fiction made up on the fly
That's a complete joke.
Shaka needs to rip the Big East in post-game. This team gets absolutely fucked by the refs every game.
(https://media.tenor.com/tFwM-5kvDeQAAAAM/bogus-smell.gif)
Is he not allowed to try and block the shot?
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 07:23:47 PMAre you fking kidding me?????
Par for the course with Big East refs.
Cheater's proof
Gold's gonna go 2 consecutive games w zero boards. Unfrickin real
Forget about all the bcrap and win this game.
That was nothing near a flagrant foul...unreal they looked at that and thought it to be flagrant. Wow
Should be an F2 on Richmond based on the standard set with Kam's foul.
Good thing SJ sucks at FTs
I'm glad he was fouled but Tre had no plan to make that layup
Nm
Quote from: Cream Biggums on February 04, 2025, 07:23:43 PMHe was talked about as POY in Non-Con he doesn't even look 1st team Big East lately
one of the biggest regressions of a player in season in marquette history?
Quote from: Judge Smails on February 04, 2025, 07:26:15 PMGood thing SJ sucks at FTs
Not really a competitive advantage for us here
Should be another flagrant on St. John's. There was contact with an airborne player.
These are the two best teams in the Big East?
This game is STILL right there for us. It's time to seize it.
I'd argue UConn and Creighton have been playing better of late. But no worse than 3rd and 4th. Not a great sign for the tourney.
Win anyway
Let's GOOOOO!!!
We are just gonna keep fouling every drive
Was that a foul on Jop??
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 07:29:59 PMWe are just gonna keep fouling every drive
Well clean blocks are being called fouls, so...
Kam just doesn't have it
Another terrible miss
And then we foul again
JFC
What's the record for fouls
Pretty easy to see St. John's offensive strategy. Have everyone at the key, then one guy drive since no one near the basket. Marquette racking up the fouls.
Do we have a foul per min in the 2H?
I mean every make
Kam follows up with a biff from up close
A Kam 3!!
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQja2cAXO4NAU2w2uaWInCB3x64YsDDvtZdSA&s)
Let's go!!!
But then we foul again lol
The fouls are getting beyond ridiculous.
Kam is back!
Kam is aggressive again. But his paint shot is simply gone
Cant make two in a row
No need to strictly go one on one. Move the rock.
Guy fell down must be a foul..
Offensive rebound. Foul. Repeat
Insane
5v8
Cannot rebound
Omg.
Damn we need to have more pride on the defensive glass.
Quote from: Eye on February 04, 2025, 07:38:11 PMGuy fell down must be a foul..
That's what I thought.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/iJmmCuH7BelRwnpaAM/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952jofmdg3906s3fp9m6i8t7f56gxl68vdukm19lldx&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
5v8
We foul them literally every single possession ho ly crap.
Travels are fouls now
Damn the 3 by Lowery would have been nice
Win anyways.
At least we moved the ball around on ZL's miss rather than just 1v1
Zaide with too much time to think there.
Worst rebounding game out of these guys in a long time! Simply no position or jumping ability
We'd still be undefeated in league if we got the Johnnies whistle. Such is life.
It's not fair, but it is the situation. Nothing we can do but try and find a way.
Foul disparity is huge. But we need to play smarter ball. Work the ball to open shooters. We have not been crisp. Have to do it now, Let's Goooooooo!
25 FTs to 9
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2025, 07:39:55 PMWe foul them literally every single possession ho ly crap.
Correction: We get called for a foul every possession. Some of these have been more than questionable. Especially with how physical and handsy St.J has been.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2025, 07:42:24 PMCorrection: We get called for a foul every possession. Some of these have been more than questionable. Especially with how physical and handsy St.J has been.
We did this to ourselves committing stupid fouls over and over again and causing the refs to keep assuming contact. We have like 10 really dumb fouls
Alright announcers being shocked that was called on Richmond was hilarious
Oh my, Richmond pushes Chase to the ground and they called a foul
Definite foul before the 2nd foul on KR.
Every single possession we foul
LEave our feet and foul
I've never see so many fouls wtf unnatural carnal knowledge
Falling asleep on so many back cuts this game..pretty bad on Jop there.
I mean you can complain but these are fouls. Our defense kinda letting us down here
Gotten burned back-door like 8 times.
Game way too fast for this crew. Hope we dont see them the rest of the year.
Focus Ben.
I put this in another thread.....
I sure would like Shaka to stand up for the players. I don't have any Empirical evidence but it seems MU gets screwed consistently by a double standard on foul calls. At least a little temper tantrum might fire up the team, probably not the worst tactic with the refs either. I want Shake to get fired up, something needs to change...
Fk.
Ben misses the 1 and 1
Jop another brick
Lead ship and clutch is just not there with these guys
Great look.
Now Jop fouls again
Terrible game for a senior. Thanks for nothing
Geez Joplin was brutal all night.
26 fouls in the 2H.
Jop fouling out might be a positive
Joplin and Gold shouldn't have been on the court as much as they did tonight
NIT
rebounding anyone?
That's all she wrote
Afraid to shoot. Not a good sign at all.
ANother missed wide open 3 in crunch time
We just simply don't have the shooting or clutch leadership.
Down 7 and now everyone afraid to even shoot
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 04, 2025, 05:59:14 PMThe refs are going to call so many fouls in the 2nd half
Well at least I got one prediction right
Uhhhhh.....?
Ben gold is laughably bad
Pathetic finish
Team is broken.
Gold and Jop embarrassing lack of clutch
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/Yycc82XEuWDaLLi2GV/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952c961caoskhgc9zaxz9tzn1p0ojknl159he6u1z0e&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
WOW..how many shots are we going to pass up down 7...unreal...somebody launch
This 1st round loss in March is gonna suck.
Broken offense
We had a chance but when you cannot rebound the ball at all it's asking a lot to get a W. Their missed throws helped but we have to be smarter and tougher.
Wow, didn't deserve to win. Kam, Stevie, Jop, Gold all bad and regressed massively. IMO looking like Shakas worst coaching year here. Team has been in a funk and nothing changing.
Quote from: MurphysTillClose on February 04, 2025, 07:52:38 PMThis 1st round loss in March is gonna suck.
Gonna be the most popular 5 seed upset pick in history
Poor effort, Joplin is not a smart basketball player, St John's tried hard to give us the game, we said no thanks
Quote from: Johnny B on February 04, 2025, 07:53:15 PMGonna be the most popular 5 seed upset pick in history
As it should be. This team is overrated.
Ross is gassed.
Easy money.
Trying to fight over screens set for Kadary 25 feet away from the basket makes no sense. Go under the screens and let him shoot from deep all he wants.
Lowest I've been on a team since wojo
Shaka might've been better just playing the bench with Chase in the second half. The starters really let them down tonight.
Wasn't Tre's whole purpose to foul?
I expected an ugly game, but the ineffective and boneheaded play from the seniors was extremely disappointing.
The rebounding disparity is unbelievable
Woof. This one gives me more questions than answers.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 04, 2025, 07:55:28 PMWasn't Tre's whole purpose to foul?
Yeah, he coming over to do that. He just wanted to wait 25 seconds first.
I hope we refuse a bid
Quote from: warriors141 on February 04, 2025, 07:55:07 PMLowest I've been on a team since wojo
Good chance to match Wojo's letter writing season... 3-7 to end regular season very possible.
So engrained in them to drive that cant make an adjustment when have to fire from deep and hope.
Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on February 04, 2025, 07:55:54 PMThe rebounding disparity is unbelievable
Completely predictable.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 04, 2025, 07:56:56 PMI hope we refuse a bid
They should cause March is gonna kill scoop
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 04, 2025, 07:56:16 PMWoof. This one gives me more questions than answers.
Unfortunately I think the unwanted answer is this team ain't that good. We have been playing so poor when does it become not a slump and who you are? Feasted on a weak schedule glossed over some things for a while. In crunch time this thing never in doubt
Second game in a row where the better team won. Getting a handle on where MU is in the league. Looks like about 4th place. Maybe teams hitting the portal are starting to gel.
The positive is the improving bench play. Nice games from Lowery and Parham. Ross played well. Kam made two FTs.
tough to watch any team that can't rebound at any level
Pitino not thrilled with officiating either. Never a good sign when both sides frustrated with 6 seconds left.
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/lELRD773cY7Sg/200.gif?cid=6c09b952vng175vbb52gztxwiw9znbawuean59whcduwskhf&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.gif&ct=g)
Creighton gonna roll Marquette on Sat...
St John's is an absolute load of a squad. Physical AF. Tough to beat at them at the Garden.
2 1/2 hour game. Like the 4 hours Yankees Red Sox games a handful of years back. You watch because they mean something, but it's not a real pleasant experience even if the team you're rooting for wins.
We h7ng in this game playing terribly. We can play with anyone. Jut need to hit shots and free throws. Don't know what happened but they will get it back.
Quote from: Daniel on February 04, 2025, 08:03:58 PMWe h7ng in this game playing terribly. We can play with anyone. Jut need to hit shots and free throws. Don't know what happened but they will get it back.
This is a terrible shooting team. Always have been this year. Keep dreaming.
Quote from: Daniel on February 04, 2025, 08:03:58 PMWe h7ng in this game playing terribly. We can play with anyone. Jut need to hit shots and free throws. Don't know what happened but they will get it back.
The problem is that this team hasn't hit shots and free throws in over a month now. I see no reason to believe that will change.
That was an embarrassing 3:50 end to the game. Two weeks ago Shaka was talking about how much fun he was having as a coach. Last week at his show he looked like he wanted to leave before he got there. Can't imagine he's having fun now.
Quote from: Daniel on February 04, 2025, 08:03:58 PMWe h7ng in this game playing terribly. We can play with anyone. Jut need to hit shots and free throws. Don't know what happened but they will get it back.
I was way more upset after UConn, X, and Dayton than this game. St. John's is a top 15 team and looks like a 15 team. Marquette hasn't been near dominant the entire year to expect to win on the road against top 15 teams.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 04, 2025, 12:21:32 PMWhich was still a 1 point, 2OT loss. On a neutral floor. Hah
And their defense has been improving since then. They have 3 losses by a combined 5 points. It's not their amazing offense keeping them in games.
If MU can "break" their defense, we win easily. If not, it's likely a close game.
Yup.
Our seedline is starting to be affected by these losses, but I still feel as good about our outlook in March compared to St. John's.
They suck on offense...they get the wrong officiating crew and they could have a tough time in the tournament.
Inexplicably dribbling while looking to drive to the hoop when with minutes to go. Forgot about running sets to open a three
Shoutout Ben Gold with 0 rebounds tonight. Crushing the glass.
Quote from: MurphysTillClose on February 04, 2025, 08:13:26 PMShoutout Ben Gold with 0 rebounds tonight. Crushing the glass.
3 games in a row
Bottom line: "We are family" is not enough. At the moment we need to replace Gold with a big body who can box out and rebound, aka toughness underneath. Should I mention the word "Transfer"
My positive spin:
1) ZL.
2) RP.
3) Lots of hoops left.
Quote from: AlienWarrior on February 04, 2025, 08:17:03 PMBottom line: "We are family" is not enough. At the moment we need to replace Gold with a big body who can box out and rebound, aka toughness underneath. Should I mention the word "Transfer"
Jop had a rough night on the glass.
Quote from: muhoops1 on February 04, 2025, 08:09:24 PMThat was an embarrassing 3:50 end to the game. Two weeks ago Shaka was talking about how much fun he was having as a coach. Last week at his show he looked like he wanted to leave before he got there. Can't imagine he's having fun now.
Dumb.
Quote from: MurphysTillClose on February 04, 2025, 08:27:06 PMHe's not a BE level big.
Royce is...and he's willing to rebound and bang around down low.
Ben just isn't a center. He's a capable forward. Just very perimeter oriented.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 04, 2025, 08:29:29 PMBen just isn't a center. He's a capable forward. Just very perimeter oriented.
Hey! I agree with you.
Quote from: AlienWarrior on February 04, 2025, 08:17:03 PMBottom line: "We are family" is not enough. At the moment we need to replace Gold with a big body who can box out and rebound, aka toughness underneath. Should I mention the word "Transfer"
You can mention it. 14 out of 15 scholarships are spoken for next season. Based on his track record, Shaka will only take a player he likes a lot who is willing to come without a bag drop.
Thread that needle with a big better than Gold, Hamilton, Clark, Parham.
Mention all you want
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2025, 08:48:59 PMYou can mention it. 14 out of 15 scholarships are spoken for next season. Based on his track record, Shaka will only take a player he likes a lot who is willing to come without a bag drop.
Thread that needle with a big better than Gold, Hamilton, Clark, Parham.
Mention all you want
Does anyone see the sophomore who red shirted coming back
Quote from: Johnny B on February 04, 2025, 08:56:58 PMDoes anyone see the sophomore who red shirted coming back
No.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 04, 2025, 08:56:58 PMDoes anyone see the sophomore who red shirted coming back
Amadou? Yes. Until I hear differently.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 04, 2025, 08:56:58 PMDoes anyone see the sophomore who red shirted coming back
It's NCAA hoops in 2025. I don't see anyone coming back, until they do.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 04, 2025, 08:11:58 PMOur seedline is starting to be affected by these losses, but I still feel as good about our outlook in March compared to St. John's.
They suck on offense...they get the wrong officiating crew and they could have a tough time in the tournament.
I think SJU will struggle against a team with size that packs in the D. MU picks up high, which plays to SJU's strengths.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on February 04, 2025, 11:06:27 PMI think SJU will struggle against a team with size that packs in the D. MU picks up high, which plays to SJU's strengths.
Great call Zog.
Guess we missed those giddyup opportunities last night. Maybe next game.
Time for a major shake up on this team.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 05, 2025, 07:51:55 AMStart Parham.
He'll be out in foul trouble within 10 minutes
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 05, 2025, 07:51:55 AMStart Parham.
It won't happen, nor is it Shaka's style, nor is it necessary but I'd get excited over an old school message sender from Shaka.
Kam. You can't stay out of foul trouble after we've explained how much we absolutely need you to not be in foul trouble? Fine Zaide can start today so we have you available late.
Jop. You can't do literally anything right right now due mainly to lack of focus? Fine Royce can start today so we can get a different look.
Again...it isn't happening, nor does it need to, but I'm a sucker for a nice little old school message sender. Our ceiling requires Kam to be playing as our best player and Joplin to be impacting 30 minutes of the game in a positive way.
If running sprints in the old gym was good enough for Al, it should be good enough for Shaka.
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 05, 2025, 01:55:34 PMHe'll be out in foul trouble within 10 minutes
Not of you put a UW or St. John's uniforms on him.
Starting Caedin and Royce? LOL.