Going to the game. Going to the Alumni event prior.
Where at?
It's time to find our range and attack from all angles.
With 4 points, Kam Jones would pass George Thompson for 4th on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 41 points, David Joplin would pass Tyler Kolek for 40th on the all-time Marquette scoring list.
With 7 steals, Stevie Mitchell would pass Doc Rivers for 4th on the all-time Marquette steals list.
Upland, got it.
I feel like I'm a bit more concerned about this game than I should be. Butler has given Creighton and UConn some tough games this month. Of course, they did lose to Nova at home and barely squeaked by Seton Hall.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 28, 2025, 08:51:44 AMI feel like I'm a bit more concerned about this game than I should be. Butler has given Creighton and UConn some tough games this month. Of course, they did lost to Nova at home and barely squeaked by Seton Hall.
For whatever reason, Butler has managed to give MU some issues over the past three seasons. The wins, outside of the one to clinch the league, have been far from comfortable.
2024-25 Home W 80-70
2023-24 Away W 78-72
2023-24 Home L62-69
2022-23 Away W 72-56
2022-23 Home W 60-52
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 28, 2025, 08:51:44 AMI feel like I'm a bit more concerned about this game than I should be. Butler has given Creighton and UConn some tough games this month. Of course, they did lost to Nova at home and barely squeaked by Seton Hall.
Definitely not a game to take for granted. Brooks and Telfort are legit, and guard Bizjak has been playing pretty well lately. He played his game of the year against us a year or two ago at Butler. McCaffrey can hurt you if you give him looks. Nova and Seton Hall games didn't have the same atmosphere at Hinkle that this game will. Would be nice to jump in front and avoid energizing the crowd. As long as our guys are focused, our pressure should carry the day. Also, small gym = Jop hitting 3s.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 28, 2025, 08:51:44 AMI feel like I'm a bit more concerned about this game than I should be. Butler has given Creighton and UConn some tough games this month. Of course, they did lost to Nova at home and barely squeaked by Seton Hall.
These next four games are the stretch I've been concerned about.
I'd take 2-2.
COLE
Have this as an L
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 28, 2025, 09:18:56 AMThese next four games are the stretch I've been concerned about.
I'd take 2-2.
COLE
If we play anywhere near our capabilities we'll be fine.
Milkshake time
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 28, 2025, 08:32:57 AMUpland, got it.
Upland on College and 49th. There are multiple Uplands in Indy.
Wen I saw the title, I thought it was going to be a hatefest on Jimmy.
Our guards have a chance to be real life bullies in tonight's matchup.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 28, 2025, 09:18:56 AMThese next four games are the stretch I've been concerned about.
I'd take 2-2.
COLE
I'm also worried about this stretch, but I think 2-2 is definitely COLE. We should win tonight and on NMD. Then grab at least one of the road contests.
Quote from: tower912 on January 28, 2025, 05:56:15 AMGoing to the game. Going to the Alumni event prior.
Missing this game for the first time in several years. Cool place to see a game for sure. Enjoy! Great memories from clinching the regular season a few years back.
Just had lunch and laughs with MU 82. A good day.
Quote from: tower912 on January 28, 2025, 01:55:43 PMJust had lunch and laughs with MU 82. A good day.
At least we know who to blame now if Marquette loses.
Quote from: Jockey on January 28, 2025, 10:43:48 AMWen I saw the title, I thought it was going to be a hatefest on Jimmy.
Can combine them Butler couldn't have taken Gordon Hayward let alone Shelvin Mack's team.
Quote from: tower912 on January 28, 2025, 01:55:43 PMJust had lunch and laughs with MU 82. A good day.
All the way in from Seattle, impressed. Are you guys going to be there for Saturday's game as well?
He will be. Not me.
Thought about driving to Indiana, then I glanced at a bag from Michigan. I did not go to indiana.
Sinned & wasted, I'm ready
Johnnies kicking GTs ass all over the floor early. Sorber stinking it up for GT
Quote from: willie warrior on January 28, 2025, 05:55:22 PMJohnnies kicking GTs ass all over the floor early. Sorber stinking it up for GT
Thanks
Quote from: willie warrior on January 28, 2025, 05:55:22 PMJohnnies kicking GTs ass all over the floor early. Sorber stinking it up for GT
At least we won't have to worry about an overtime game before us.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 28, 2025, 05:55:22 PMJohnnies kicking GTs ass all over the floor early. Sorber stinking it up for GT
No Sorber nickname?
Quote from: willie warrior on January 28, 2025, 05:55:22 PMJohnnies kicking GTs ass all over the floor early. Sorber stinking it up for GT
Johnnies are legit.Great job by Pitino.
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 28, 2025, 06:58:13 PMJohnnies are legit.Great job by Pitino.
They have 8 points this half. Their offense can be ugly at times. Very similar team to Marquette when Marquette isn't shooting well from deep.
Some similarities between the 2 teams, but SJ doesn't have a Kam Jones and MU doesn't have a Zuby.
The crowd looked pathetic for that Georgetown game.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 28, 2025, 07:28:15 PMThe crowd looked pathetic for that Georgetown game.
Check out PC vs. the Hall.
LFG!!!
I thought someone burned the black uniforms
I need some Doritos
That was one of those instances where Jop bullied his way to the hoop and didn't know what he wanted to do with it.
Ya Chase!
That was an easy bunny for Jop. ;Focus and slow the F down.
Chase!!
Excellent patience fron Stevie.
WTF? Wasn't Stevie fouled?
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Stevie just got demolished. No call.
Can't leave bizz boy open
Reminder to Big East refs that Stevie plays the same sport as everyone else and can be officiated as such
Game over
That was a very fast 11-0 run.
Settle down guys.
Earliest timeout of the season?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 07:43:48 PMGame over
Agreed butler sucks and it don't matter if they splash a few quick 3s early on
It's seems like Kam goes exclusively to the one handed finger roll with his lay-ups.
Well, another bad start. Let's see if they can right the ship.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 28, 2025, 07:45:04 PMAgreed butler sucks and it don't matter if they splash a few quick 3s early on
Correct. Attack this tean like a ginsu knife through butter.
You can foul if you make contact from behind on the shot if you're white in Indiana
Definitely a lot of matchups we can exploit when we're on offense. Stay patient and under control.
No reason to be burned backdoor twice. Fking focus.
Tre time?
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Jop has to find his game.
MU is playing so bad, you'd think I was in the arena
Where' our offense?
Ehh now it's a bit concerning. Wake the f up
Whew.... Need to protect the three line. Killing us there.
Our defense is all out of sorts. Been scrambling every possession with open shooters everywhere.
Jop should post Biz.
Hopefully that was Butler's last 14-0 run of the night
Big shot from Kam. Let's go now!
This is another brutal effort early. Something is beyond wrong/broken with this team
Actually come out with a nice start(aside the Jop usual missed chippy).
But then it goes...missed rebound. 3. Kam another rushed layup. 3. Stevie treis to answer with a 3, bricked. 3. Stevie fouled not called. Layup. Time out.
Out of time out. Jop brick. Kam shoots from 40 feet brick. They hit another 3.
Butler literally cannot stop any drive. Yet we are content giving them wide open 3s and then trying to answer those with a team that at this point we can safely say cannot shoot.
Now Norman with the end of shot clock foul on 3 lol
Sweet Jesus Tre.
What was that foul?
I was gonna say stupid foul on Tre but there was nothing there.
I would love to be punching bagged all season next year for being wrong on this
But next season and the near future might literally hinge on a Tre Norman transfer
He wouldn't play for Hall
Why Normam ahead of ZL? Just curious.
Tre should be grabbing bench
I'm not convinced his fingers touched his jersey much less impacted his shot in any way
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 28, 2025, 07:52:10 PMI was gonna say stupid foul on Tre but there was nothing there.
Not much for sure.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2025, 07:52:45 PMWhy Normam ahead of ZL? Just curious.
Because he has more of a guard "make up" Forget that make up is horrendous.
Long bench stint for Stevie.
Its currently Kam vs Butler and zero team rebounding.
Gotta D up and rebound.
Goggles dominating
Excellent sequence fton ZL.
Zaide is a dude.
Ham just getting dominated by this screen kid
Getting a garbage whistle right now. Fight through this b-crape and take over.
Get a rebound please
Parham is too small to defend Screen
Guys need to keep playing through. Bad whistle and a complete 180 on rebound luck from game 1. Keep fighting.
We look pretty decent so far. Hard to grab a lead when they shoot out of their ass to start the game. Just stay in the game this first half and I like our chances to bring it home. Need to get more physical with Screen. Looks like Hamilton is going in.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 07:51:34 PMThis is another brutal effort early. Something is beyond wrong/broken with this team
Actually come out with a nice start(aside the Jop usual missed chippy).
But then it goes...missed rebound. 3. Kam another rushed layup. 3. Stevie treis to answer with a 3, bricked. 3. Stevie fouled not called. Layup. Time out.
Out of time out. Jop brick. Kam shoots from 40 feet brick. They hit another 3.
Butler literally cannot stop any drive. Yet we are content giving them wide open 3s and then trying to answer those with a team that at this point we can safely say cannot shoot.
Now Norman with the end of shot clock foul on 3 lol
Lol
From the arena:
Stevie got hammered
Tre didn't foul
Screen traveled under the basket
Shoulda been jump ball before the TV timeout
I've not been impressed with a basketball player not named Kareem who wore goggles and it hasn't changed tonight
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 28, 2025, 07:57:16 PMWe look pretty decent so far. Hard to grab a lead when they shoot out of their ass to start the game. Just stay in the game this first half and I like our chances to bring it home. Need to get more physical with Screen. Looks like Hamilton is going in.
Kick up the intensity and force some turns.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 28, 2025, 07:57:42 PMFrom the arena:
Stevie got hammered
Tre didn't foul
Screen traveled under the basket
Shoulda been jump ball before the TV timeout
The TV feed confirmed each assertion
Well Shaka is right
But also he shouldn't worry about offending them. This is brutal D/rebounding.
Love Shaka asking Caedin "can you do that?" While side eyeing Royce.
Get Stevie and Ben back in tbe game.
Caiden literally did what Shaka asks if he could do and got called for a foul
Well that time out woke them up
give up back to back buckets and biff/swatted on two lay ups.
Hamilton is a big ass man and somehow wimped out around the rim
Lowery is our 2nd best player tonight
And if Caedin cant handle that pass and make that shot. He literally has zero value in the game.
No foul there either?
Levering thinks MU is getting hosed. 3rd time he's called for a foul to be called at the rim for us.
So he can just sit there and take as much time as he needs to tie his shoe while the clock is running ?
Good explosion there from Chase.
I think Kam is going to find his groove starting now..... let's GoonMarquette!
It's time to wake up. NOW. Attack and start pressuring the basketball.
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 28, 2025, 08:02:05 PMHamilton is a big ass man and somehow wimped out around the rim
Because he has no lift. Scared of vertical shot blockers when he should be using his body like Davante Gardner to make a shot blocker not be able to get off his feet.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 08:00:02 PMAll facts
Yup. Something is wrong and broken with this team that is 8th in the nation
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 08:02:13 PMLowery is our 2nd best player tonight
And if Caedin cant handle that pass and make that shot. He literally has zero value in the game.
He spun for no reason. Go strong in that situation.
Zaide looks better and better every game. I just keep waiting to see him drive with aggressiveness because I don't want to see him settling for 3s all the time, even though they've been much better.
Not a bad stretch from Caedin there. Very active, the passing and moving game with Kam is nice, he just needs to put it all together and learn to curb the aggressiveness/erratic extra actions.
Liked what I saw though
What has happened to Jop's 3 point shot? It's completely gone
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 08:04:29 PMYup. Something is wrong and broken with this team that is 8th in the nation
Honestly yeah, I'd say Tennessee looks terrible too and haven't looked great for a while
My goodness Joplin cmon man
I seriously think Jop needs to stop taking threes.
These jop dry spells from 3 are brutal
Jop is really struggling. Killing us right now. Get a bucket inside.
Jop just continuing to hoist deep bricks is pathetic leadership
He cannot shoot. Blowing Koleks run last year wasnt enough. Ready to do the same to Kam
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 08:08:29 PMJop just continuing to hoist deep bricks is pathetic leadership
He cannot shoot. Blowing Koleks run last year wasnt enough. Ready to do the same to Kam
lol
Cut it to 3.
Back down 9
Thanks to bricks and missed rebounds.
Need a time-out.
We aren't guarding anyone.
Maybe that gets Jop going.
Jop!!!! Now play some D.
Great D Ben
Another wide open shooter.
Another embarrassing half against a shiit team.
They're on fire.
New plan. Don't leave players with massive pony tails wide open.
Hate these games when the mediocre opponent has comfortable lead the whole damn game. Butler not slowing down
Back to man-2-man.
No reason for the zone. Marquette thrives off creating deflections and turnovers, turn up the pressure and volume and let's go
Can't stop these guys
Butler shooting 63% and killing us on the glass.
Butler is 15/24
And has rebounded 4 of those 9 misses
Incredible
Butler is controlling pace of the game and are fearless. We are playing tentatively. Need to play Marquette ball. Butler threes and 3 footers are kill8ng us. Need to tighten up the D and rebound!
Best I've seen Butler look all year.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 28, 2025, 08:12:51 PMBack to man-2-man.
No reason for the zone. Marquette thrives off creating deflections and turnovers, turn up the pressure and volume and let's go
Agreed Dr.V. Why aren't we pressuring them?
They will miss.
All Marquettes reach equilibrium
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 08:13:21 PMButler is 15/24
And has rebounded 4 of those 9 misses
Incredible
That won't continue. But we need to wake the F up.
Willing to bet on regression in this second half. Attack boards a bit harder and we win this game.
That was more like Marquette defense.
Great defense by Ben there
Good D on the shot clock violation but we couldn't even get the ball there on the rebound. Butler getting 100% of the 50/50 balls.
Gold's defense had been terrific this year
All ball
Not a foul
Telfort going for 40 I gusss
Ok but if they're going to call that sh!t on Stevie we have no chance.
Finally some good D gets a stop
We try to get momentum with a parham 3.
Obviously he misses and then Telfort gets another bucket, and 1
Blind Rico will just say this team has not been a shell of themselves for 3 weeks.
Was that a foul?
Very important close to this half.
Parham chucking threes; getting torched on defense.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 08:18:09 PMFinally some good D gets a stop
We try to get momentum with a parham 3.
Obviously he misses and then Telfort gets another bucket, and 1
Blind Rico will just say this team has not been a shell of themselves for 3 weeks.
And idiot PG will piss his pants every game thread
Parham chucking bricks is exactly what we want. If Shaka loves the 3 so much he needs to start recruiting kids who can shoot the damn ball
Mitchell was elbowed.
The inconsistency of this team is so perplexing. Let's get it to 6 at half and then hope for a turnaround.
We are the only team that doesn't get cheap calls in our favor on our home floor.
We also are soft at times when things don't go our way.
Both can be true.
Gonna need some major half-time adjustments here.
They call that foul on Kam???? WTF???
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 08:19:30 PMAnd idiot PG will piss his pants every game thread
Hahah nice comeback dipshit
Objectively watching the first half and asking myself if I knew nothing about either team (casual college fan), what would I say?
Butler is a legitimate tournament team and Marquette is a bubble team.
Really bad first half, hope the Warriors make some adjustments at half.
What is that?? What is kam doing ?
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2025, 08:21:05 PMThey call that foul on Kam???? WTF???
Really nice job of embellishing it there too
Feet weren't set but ok
A Premier League game has broken out
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 08:21:32 PMHahah nice comeback dipshit
You're right. You don't post in game threads when they're winning
You have gotta be shitting me.
It would be nice if Gold hit a clutch open three.
Always find it funny when the team objectively playing no defense. Somehow has committed like 6 more fouls
Get a tech to verbally abuse the refs and play the game under protest.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 08:22:31 PMYou're right. You don't post in game threads when they're winning
I literally always post when they are winning
Doubling down on the stupid
What a block by Stevie.
Butler is the better team tonight. Sigh
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2025, 08:14:48 PMThat won't continue. But we need to wake the F up.
That's what Georgetown was thinking in the 1985 championship game.
No delay of game on Burler stalling there to turn off the shot clock?
After tying your shoe with a running clock without inbounding it.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 08:24:05 PMI literally always post when they are winning
Doubling down on the stupid
Man, if that ain't that kettle and all that jazz, lol
Butler played out of their mind and torched our D. They also out hustled us majorly. Two things that can be cleaned up. Game isn't won in the first half anyway.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 28, 2025, 08:24:21 PMWhat a block by Stevie.
That was Stevie who blocked that? I couldn't tell who it was
We should attack the paint every possession to start the 2H. All things considered, -7 isn't horrible.
Crappy half. Need to beat a 2-7 conference team with our upcoming schedule. With the exception of Villanova our games have just been painful to watch form quite a while
What was that half?? This team is deeply flawed to play like that against a terrible team like Butler.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 08:25:45 PMMan, if that ain't that kettle and all that jazz, lol
Yeah, I would probably back track as well
Quote from: warriorfred on January 28, 2025, 08:25:14 PMButler is the better team tonight. Sigh
That's been 80% of our conference opponents in the 1st half. Gotta figure that out.
I'll take us in the 2nd half because we have Stevie and his will to win usually gets the job done. It'd be nice if he got some others to join him though.
Matta will not let Screen play against Gold. Ben goes in, Screen goes out and Matta goes small, forcing Ben to guard McAffery on the perimeter.
Not going to win many games letting the opponent shoot over 60%. Might be the worst defensive half of the season.
It hurts that Gold can't score in the post. When the opponent goes small, Gold's size provides no advantage on offense. On D he's left trying to guard quicker players away from the hoop.
We'll see how MU adjusts. Only down 7.., surprisingly.
Joplin is shooting less than 30% from 3 this season, 1-5 tonight. He needs to be much more productive on both ends of the court.
Quote from: TFlegend on January 28, 2025, 08:26:28 PMWhat was that half?? This team is deeply flawed to play like that against a terrible team like Butler.
Butler just fought Creighton and UConn tough. Chill.
We gotta play better but it doesn't mean we're deeply flawed.
Quote from: tower912 on January 28, 2025, 08:27:14 PMMatta will not let Screen play against Gold. Ben goes in, Screen goes out and Matta goes small, forcing Ben to guard McAffery on the perimeter.
I prefer Screen on the bench. He was killing us on the boards. Keep Gold in the game.
Kind of getting a 2006 Chicago Bears vibe about this Marquette team. The Bears won a lot of flukey games that year and kept rolling to the Super Bowl, but were not that good. . . not sure what to think . . .
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 28, 2025, 08:51:44 AMI feel like I'm a bit more concerned about this game than I should be. Butler has given Creighton and UConn some tough games this month. Of course, they did lose to Nova at home and barely squeaked by Seton Hall.
Looks like the team wasn't as concerned about it as they should have been. Getting slapped around by a bad team.
Shades of the game at Butler in Shaka's first year.
Quote from: warriorfred on January 28, 2025, 08:30:23 PMKind of getting a 2006 Chicago Bears vibe about this Marquette team. The Bears won a lot of flukey games that year and kept rolling to the Super Bowl, but were not that good. . . not sure what to think . . .
What game have we won that was "fluky"? Two of our three losses could also be described as fluky.
Positive regression ahead for MU in the 2H. So has been the story of the season...
Quote from: wisblue on January 28, 2025, 08:31:15 PMLooks like the team wasn't as concerned about it as they should have been. Getting slapped around by a bad team.
Shades of the game at Butler in Shaka's first year.
Good way to describe it, "getting slapped around bye a bad team."
Quote from: Warrior of Law on January 28, 2025, 08:29:17 PMJoplin is shooting less than 30% from 3 this season, 1-5 tonight. He needs to be much more productive on both ends of the court.
I would argue part of the reason his shooting is down is because he has been more productive on the other side of the court.
It's just been stupid stuff tonight.
Play good stout defense for 30 seconds...not 25 seconds and leave a shooter wide open in the corner. Don't go for shot fakes, don't over help, rebound. The concepts are simple, the execution isn't.
Quote from: BM1090 on January 28, 2025, 08:31:57 PMWhat game have we won that was "fluky"? Two of our three losses could also be described as fluky.
Xavier at home, Georgetown at home . . . flukey may be the wrong word but it felt lucky for Marquette to be in the Xavier game and win the Georgetown game.
Quote from: warriorfred on January 28, 2025, 08:35:28 PMXavier at home, Georgetown at home . . . flukey may be the wrong word but it felt lucky for Marquette to be in the Xavier game and win the Georgetown game.
How many college basketball teams play a season without lucky wins? I think lucky is probably the way to describe it better than fluky
Quote from: warriorfred on January 28, 2025, 08:35:28 PMXavier at home, Georgetown at home . . . flukey may be the wrong word but it felt lucky for Marquette to be in the Xavier game and win the Georgetown game.
Your first example of a fluke win is a loss.
Quote from: warriorfred on January 28, 2025, 08:35:28 PMXavier at home, Georgetown at home . . . flukey may be the wrong word but it felt lucky for Marquette to be in the Xavier game and win the Georgetown game.
Those weren't fluky. We tried really hard to lose them, but we were the better team down the stretch. That is decidedly not the case thru 20 minutes
Quote from: warriorfred on January 28, 2025, 08:30:23 PMKind of getting a 2006 Chicago Bears vibe about this Marquette team. The Bears won a lot of flukey games that year and kept rolling to the Super Bowl, but were not that good. . . not sure what to think . . .
Sign me up for a flukey run to the title game.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 28, 2025, 08:33:38 PMI would argue part of the reason his shooting is down is because he has been more productive on the other side of the court.
Totally agree
That's two times Butler's defense stopped to the point I thought I missed a whistle
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 28, 2025, 08:35:04 PMIt's just been stupid stuff tonight.
Play good stout defense for 30 seconds...not 25 seconds and leave a shooter wide open in the corner. Don't go for shot fakes, don't over help, rebound. The concepts are simple, the execution isn't.
We had some open shots. Ours just didn't go in. Pretty much all their shots did.
Kam is defending his ass off
Let's go now!
Great start
That's the Shaka half time adjust
Can we keep it up now
A kill and 3 scores. Can't draw it up better than that.
Attack the rim at will.
That's Marquette basketball.
That pass by Kam was exquisite.
B E A utiful give and go
Well there it is.. nightmare first half and back to a 1 point game with the whole half to go
All fking day!
Am I crazy in thinking McCaffrey occasionally lifts his pivot foot?
This is more like it!
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 28, 2025, 08:44:52 PMAm I crazy in thinking McCaffrey occasionally lifts his pivot foot?
No. He travels constantly.
A bunch of guys dribbling around and then forcing something at the end of the shot clock is not an offense. Incredibly easy to defend. Folks are catching on to Kam's penetration stuff, and they're starting to reject some shots into the seats. W/O a point guard or center we need to be smarter. Like spacing, passing, slashing back door stuff. Like back in the CYO days.
Second half team, not worried.
Damn. Kam's 3 there was so flat.
Just can't get over the hump
What was the call before the timeout? I had the sound off
Need to get over the hump and then the floodgates will open.
Great recovery by Chase. Don't let the refs money on Butler affect your recovery on defense.
Maybe I'm asking a lot, but Chase needs to go dunk that phucking basketball. At least jump stop and play off 2 feet. It is Finley freaking Bizjack in front of you. Stuff him inside the rim.
Need those points.
Chase drives to the hoop are quite interesting.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2025, 08:52:16 PMWhat was the call before the timeout? I had the sound off
[/quoteQuote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2025, 08:52:16 PMWhat was the call before the timeout? I had the sound off
Out of bounds
Oh good. I thought the ref was walking to the table to call a foul on Jop
Still too many extended Butler possessions. Can't get over the hump by continually limiting possessions you have
Kam needs a free throw lesson from McCaffrey's girlfriend
Quote from: Judge Smails on January 28, 2025, 08:54:24 PMKam needs a free throw lesson from McCaffrey's girlfriend
Maybe it would help if he could use a smaller ball.
Got the lead back. Now gas pedal
Jop doesn't force things according to LaPhonso.
Kam what are you thinking?
Woof
We get called for the softest crap.
lol idiotic slap from jones is he crazy wtf
Cannot be having fouls on Kam though.
Shaka not too happy with Kam tonight. Gave him an earful in the first half. Another earful here.
Fix is in
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 28, 2025, 08:57:56 PMShaka not too happy with Kam tonight. Gave him an earful in the first half. Another earful here.
Sloppy fouls
That wasn't a foul on Kam. He was the one that was there, but it wasn't a foul.
Nice arm bar by Telfort after which Kam got all ball
Kam needs to know better than that.
Why is he still on the floor?
Weak foul but Kam has to be smarter than that
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2025, 08:58:42 PMWhy is he still on the floor?
Why the F would he reach there?
Kam with a huge brain fart
#underprotest
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 28, 2025, 08:58:25 PMThat wasn't a foul on Kam. He was the one that was there, but it wasn't a foul.
You can't reach there regardless. Fk.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2025, 08:59:06 PMWhy the F would he reach there?
You can't not answer my question by asking me an unanswerable question
Norman has flashes of being decent, gonna need more of that
Rewarded Shaka's trust in him to not make a boneheaded fourth foul... with a boneheaded fourth foul smh... hopefully the guys can pick him up
Tre!!!! Keep attacking the rim.
Screen leaning into that screen
Kam picking up that 4th foul is insanely dumb
KEEP
ATTACKING.
Ugh that was dumb
Butler arm bars a lot.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2025, 09:03:35 PMButler arm bars a lot.
Thad's teams have always done that
An alleyoop pass to Jop on the break is slightly dumber than Kam's fourth foul
For the athleticism he has, Ross really can do some stupid crap on fast breaks
Chase is SO often OOC!
They gotta learn how to turn that into a bucket right there, but that was a great stretch. Tre hasn't been good on the year, but damnit he's a fighter...and sometimes a willing fighter is all that's needed to put doubt into an opponent.
Keep battling.
Dammit. That should have been an easy bucket. Focus!!!!
Crank up the D. Let's Go Marquette!
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2025, 09:03:59 PMAn alleyoop pass to Jop on the break is slightly dumber than Kam's fourth foul
Better play and decision making in transition is the next step in Chase's development. He's not quite there yet.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2025, 09:04:54 PMDammit. That should have been an easy bucket. Focus!!!!
I have no clue why Chase thought he should throw a lob to Jop. 👀
Somebody MUST tell joplin to stop shooting 3's. His shot selection is horrid. This happens with him every single game. How many misses does it take to get the message? He just kills our momentum when he takes those stupid shots.
Quote from: mubb2025 on January 28, 2025, 09:07:03 PMSomebody MUST tell joplin to stop shooting 3's. His shot selection is horrid. This happens with him every single game. How many misses does it take to get the message? He just kills our momentum when he takes those stupid shots.
I don't remember ever seeing someone's first post. Welcome
Oh look, another trash call against Marquette.
F uckin rigged
That's a block???
Tough whistle tonight
That's not a push off though, huh.
Boy this team is making some terrible decisions tonight
I timed it. 14 seconds at the line.
Absurd foul call there
I can't believe someone who holds the ball that long on a FT actually makes them
WTF was that call on Jop??
Stevie nails
Looked much worse than Kam's foul. Why isn't Shaka in their ear
Stevie is in four places at once
Best zone offense possession I've seen all year
Make that 5
Stevie wants this
Be a great night for Tre's best game of the year
We got phucking DUDES and some of them might just be realizing it themselves.
What a response. Keep it up.
Impressive, especially with Kam on the bench
Steve E F Mitchell
Stevie is special.
First this team became better without Kolek and Oso. Now they are better without Kam!
🤣
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 09:11:06 PMStevie wants this
Man I'm gonna miss him when he graduates.
Excellent tenacity combined with vertical attacks. Two great dimes by Chase after that bad turn.
Have to keep it up
Gonna still be a long time with no Kam
Thank god their guy took a stupid 3 after Chase's stupid 3
Stevie 3!!!
Stevie unreal
Count that!!!
Chase needs to chill out
Kam went out when they were up 1 and they got it the under 8 adding +7. Pretty stout effort
Looked like Stevie got shoved on that drive, but why would that get called?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 09:17:01 PMKam went out when they were up 1 and they got it the under 8 adding +7. Pretty stout effort
Yeah but Butler is on a 2-0 run.
Two unnecessary forces by Chase, move the rock.
Did Stevie travel?
When do you bring back Kam???
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2025, 09:17:38 PMTwo unnecessary forces by Chase, move the rock.
Did Stevie travel?
If they aren't going to call the foul, then ya.
Stevie didn't travel. He was fouled
Get medieval on D .... Let's Go Marquette!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 09:17:01 PMKam went out when they were up 1 and they got it the under 8 adding +7. Pretty stout effort
Bench him for the season!!!!!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 28, 2025, 09:18:19 PMIf they aren't going to call the foul, then ya.
Pissea me off.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2025, 09:17:38 PMTwo unnecessary forces by Chase, move the rock.
Did Stevie travel?
Now
I believe you are allowed to foul Stevie.
Unless Ben makes a three immediately afterwards.
This team has been missing something and I couldn't quite figure out what.
I think the key might be a more aggressive Stevie more often on offense.
Needs to take the pressure off Kam and then Kam will cook more
Butler +9 in FTA's. Infuriating.
The fouls that Butler is getting are beyond ridiculous.
These refs are definitely on the take
CHASE STOP IT NOW
Chase with a brutal half
Chase, my man
Have to get those long rebs.
There's the Zaide drive I've been waiting for, he's got it
We have 3 off rebs in the game. Pathetic. Marquette will be exposed in march if that continues.
Butler has 8 PFs all game cmon
Amazed kam isn't checking in yet. It's a 5 pt game with 5 min left?
Confident move by lowery. Freaking Ross can't hit anything
Quote from: mubb2025 on January 28, 2025, 09:22:52 PMWe have 3 off rebs in the game. Pathetic. Marquette will be exposed in march if that continues.
And if they get outscored
I think now you gotta bring in Kam
on him to not foul
Dunk it chase/caiden/ben/zaide/etc
Zaide looked mighty capable on that drive spin and finish. That's a player.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 28, 2025, 09:24:21 PMZaide looked mighty capable on that drive spin and finish. That's a player.
I'm very excited to see what some more reps brings from him
Zaide has looked a lot more comfortable recently when not sick. Would be huge if he can up his scoring consistently down the stretch. More regularly give 5-6 pts
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 28, 2025, 09:24:21 PMZaide looked mighty capable on that drive spin and finish. That's a player.
Excellent downhill attack with force.
Thanks bizz Jackie for sucking
There's Chase!!!
Lol trash officiating.
Not shooting?!!
Worst whistle all year.
Oh f#ck these refs.
What!?!?
I thought ZL was fouled.
Unreal
No world in which that wasn't in the act
That's a massive 2 pt swing
Criminal
Good fking grief.
What the hell was that call. The ref signaled the shot was good
Stevie getting absolutely mauled with no call. Again.
Bizz boy!! Sotg
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 28, 2025, 09:19:25 PMI believe you are allowed to foul Stevie.
Unless Ben makes a three immediately afterwards.
Bump
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 28, 2025, 07:43:04 PMReminder to Big East refs that Stevie plays the same sport as everyone else and can be officiated as such
Do you even put Kam back in? I don't think you want a guy with a "can't foul" mindset down the stretch here.
No idea how that earlier foul on Stevie wasn't a shooting foul, especially with some of the garbage they've sent Telford to the line on.
Absurd.
Whew. Slam the fking door now.
Hahahahaha there is really nothing down there?! Stevie got fouled 3 times, traveled twice because of it, and they just let Butler run the other way.
Thankfully Bizjack loves Butterfingers.
In all the years I've watched basketball, I've never seen a correctly called and-1 changed to be an incorrect call
I'd just like Stevie to get out of here kinda healthy.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 28, 2025, 09:30:13 PMDo you even put Kam back in? I don't think you want a guy with a "can't foul" mindset down the stretch here.
Yes
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 28, 2025, 09:30:20 PMNo idea how that earlier foul on Stevie wasn't a shooting foul, especially with some of the garbage they've sent Telford to the line on.
Absurd.
It makes me extremely angry.
Tre Norman was plus 10 tonight and gave Marquette invaluable minutes after Kam's fourth foul. What an effort tonight from the sophomore.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 28, 2025, 09:30:13 PMDo you even put Kam back in? I don't think you want a guy with a "can't foul" mindset down the stretch here.
Offense has been getting to the rim without him and Zaide is really active on D, so I agree.
Quote from: IL Warrior on January 28, 2025, 09:27:22 PMLol trash officiating.
Truly is ass. How MU isn't getting ANY calls is beyond me.
These refs are BRUTAL!!
The blocking call on Stevie was bad enough on Telford but they said he was shooting which was bs.
Yet Stevie doesn't get a shooting foul and then Chase doesn't either. He only shoots because it was in the bonus.
Omg!!!
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2025, 09:30:37 PMIn all the years I've watched basketball, I've never seen a correctly called and-1 changed to be an incorrect call
[/quoteQuote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2025, 09:30:37 PMIn all the years I've watched basketball, I've never seen a correctly called and-1 changed to be an incorrect call
It's not the nba.. there is no continuation. He was fouled on the drive before putting the shot up
You absolutely put Kam back in
Need a ball handler to close out pressure and if the offense stalls.
Love kam. But wouldn't have put him back in. The O looked so smooth with him on the bench.
Quote from: fjm on January 28, 2025, 09:32:40 PMLove kam. But wouldn't have put him back in. The O looked so smooth with him on the bench.
No way. I've watched to many late game debacles over the years. Cannot have our pure scorer and PG on the bench.
Quote from: fjm on January 28, 2025, 09:32:40 PMLove kam. But wouldn't have put him back in. The O looked so smooth with him on the bench.
Insane.. you don't not play the all American regardless of how the offense was doing
crap Stevie make your 1 and 1
Finish them!!!
Quote from: Johnny B on January 28, 2025, 09:35:58 PMInsane.. you don't not play the all American regardless of how the offense was doing
Nate Oates did it with Mark Sears the other night lol
Quote from: fjm on January 28, 2025, 09:32:40 PMLove kam. But wouldn't have put him back in. The O looked so smooth with him on the bench.
3,100 posts. And thoughts like this make it from brain to keyboard?
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2025, 09:36:22 PMcrap Stevie make your 1 and 1
I'm happy he's still standing at this point.
Quote from: T.V. Diener 34 on January 28, 2025, 09:37:41 PMNate Oates did it with Mark Sears the other night lol
Insane... assuming it's the same context.imo
Was that a foul???
Hmmmm....KenPom had this 76-70
Quote from: Johnny B on January 28, 2025, 09:38:39 PMInsane... assuming it's the same context.imo
Nah Sears was bad offensively in the first half of their game and his D was trash so Oates benched him for the entire second half
Those inbounds plays take a LONG time to develop
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 09:39:28 PMHmmmm....KenPom had this 76-70
No stud of the game if Butler scores 2 more points
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 28, 2025, 09:38:16 PMI'm happy he's still standing at this point.
Agreed. He gets absolutely mauled.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2025, 09:39:53 PMThose inbounds plays take a LONG time to develop
True.
MILKSHAKES!!!
Very impressive win
Great effort once Kam got his 4th.
Nice adjustments. Stevie and Chase get it done. Nice contributions from the bench. More intensity on D in the second half.
Butler scored 27 points in the second half. It was 51-50 when Kam picked up his 4th. 27-19 after that. Marquette equaled Butler's second half total in closing it out.
Have a smoke
WTF just woke up and San Diego St is playing San José St. Did MU lose again??
Quote from: Carl on January 28, 2025, 09:38:02 PM3,100 posts. And thoughts like this make it from brain to keyboard?
The offense looked so much more smooth with Kam on the bench. The ball sticks in Kams hands sometimes, and I'm not complaining cause he's the best, but tonight the flow was better when everyone was involved.
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 28, 2025, 09:48:00 PMWYF just woke up and San Diego St is playing San José St. Did MU lose again??
Yes. This team is lost
Man I love the Big East getting the respect of a post-game interview
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 09:48:37 PMYes. This team is lost
Oh Fck, this is sad. Totally unacceptable. Why the F I'm risking my life going to Milwaukee this weekend? Got to do more bongs to relax.
Quote from: fjm on January 28, 2025, 09:48:03 PMThe offense looked so much more smooth with Kam on the bench. The ball sticks in Kams hands sometimes, and I'm not complaining cause he's the best, but tonight the flow was better when everyone was involved.
I'm not trying to pile on but it seems like you're basing this on a couple shots falling from freshman. Everything looks good when the shots fall. I know you aren't suggesting that our offense is better without the possibly best offensive player in the country
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 28, 2025, 08:27:02 PMThat's been 80% of our conference opponents in the 1st half. Gotta figure that out.
I'll take us in the 2nd half because we have Stevie and his will to win usually gets the job done. It'd be nice if he got some others to join him though.
Pretty much. Stevie.
Quote from: ski44 on January 28, 2025, 08:32:18 PMPositive regression ahead for MU in the 2H. So has been the story of the season...
As I was saying...
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2025, 08:03:24 PMGood explosion there from Chase.
Chase exploded?? Hopefully he can play Saturday.
Quote from: Carl on January 28, 2025, 09:55:50 PMI'm not trying to pile on but it seems like you're basing this on a couple shots falling from freshman. Everything looks good when the shots fall. I know you aren't suggesting that our offense is better without the possibly best offensive player in the country
I'm not suggesting that Carl. But both things can be true. Kam can be our best player by a lot. But our offense can still look more smooth tonight without him.
Edit: for example, that was the best play I've seen all year against the zone. And while Kam was on the bench, it would have been the sophomores who hit some shots. But so did Stevie, Chase, and Joplin.
I will say that Royce's worst timed 3s (trailing, momentum slipping) have anecdotally been the ones he's hit.
The kid does not lack for confidence and I hope we reap the benefits over the next 3 years
Thanks for enjoyable comedy!
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 28, 2025, 10:01:47 PMChase exploded?? Hopefully he can play Saturday.
I think that's Muggsy's way of saying Chase let a big fart rip.
Do not recognize the game I was at from the game thread. I have to believe at this point that it is all satire, sarcasm, and irony. Thank you all for the laughs.
Quote from: tower912 on January 28, 2025, 11:07:37 PMDo not recognize the game I was at from the game thread. I have to believe at this point that it is all satire, sarcasm, and irony. Thank you all for the laughs.
I assume that this post is satire and sarcasm.
Otherwise, congratulations on being so calm, cool, and collected that you never think or say anything spontaneously in the heat of the moment while watching a game.
I don't participate much in the game threads, but when I look through them I don't see that many comments that are not valid when made contemporaneously as long as you recognize them as spur of the moment and often emotional reactions.
Maybe you're referring to comments made by the several posters that I have on ignore because virtually everything they post is sarcastic or a lame attempt at humor.
Thanks. And I say plenty of spontaneous things in the heat of the moment. Just rarely negative. My conversation with my buddy in the moment at the game was along the lines of Butler won't keep hitting shots like this all game and watching how Matta used Screen only against the back up bigs. And laughter and friendly banter with our Butler neighbors. Accurately predicted to them that MU would ramp up the defensive intensity in the second half. Never said a derogatory word about either team.
Quote from: tower912 on January 29, 2025, 05:18:43 AMThanks. And I say plenty of spontaneous things in the heat of the moment. Just rarely negative. My conversation with my buddy in the moment at the game was along the lines of Butler won't keep hitting shots lime this all game and watching how Matta used Screen only against the back up bigs. And laughter and friendly banter with our Butler neighbors. Accurately predicted to them that MU would ramp up the defensive intensity in the second half. Never said a derogatory word about either team.
Lame.
Quote from: fjm on January 28, 2025, 09:48:03 PM
"The offense looked so much more smooth with Kam on the bench. The ball sticks in Kams hands sometimes, and I'm not complaining cause he's the best, but tonight the flow was better when everyone was involved."
Quote from Uncle Rico on January 28, 2025, 09:45:36 PM
"Butler scored 27 points in the second half. It was 51-50 when Kam picked up his 4th. 27-19 after that. Marquette equaled Butler's second half total in closing it out."
That means Marquette out scored Butler 16-8 before Kam went out. Looks like Marquette was more efficient with Kam playing! Who'd a thunk!
Hey, now. Be careful about criticizing people's off the cuff remarks. You never know when using your free speech to disagree with another's free speech will be criticized. Gird your loins.
So, teams broken.
Tre's transferring.
PG's whining.
MU winning.
Game thread embarrassing.
Business as usual.
18-3, 9-1, life sucks
Quote from: 82fanatic on January 29, 2025, 07:09:45 AMThat means Marquette out scored Butler 16-8 before Kam went out. Looks like Marquette was more efficient with Kam playing! Who'd a thunk!
MUs +/- was 0 with Kam on the floor last night
MUs +/- was +9 without Kam on YNt for last night
So last night MU was more efficient without Kam playing.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 29, 2025, 09:09:07 AMMUs +/- was 0 with Kam on the floor last night
MUs +/- was +9 without Kam on YNt for last night
So last night MU was more efficient without Kam playing.
Do that comparison in the 2nd half only. After MU changed their strategy.
Quote from: 82fanatic on January 29, 2025, 06:35:42 PMDo that comparison in the 2nd half only. After MU changed their strategy.
Yep in the second half the teams plus/minus was better with Kam. In the whole game it was better without. Which is a great development given the concerns about the bench!
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 29, 2025, 06:52:11 PMYep in the second half the teams plus/minus was better with Kam. In the whole game it was better without. Which is a great development given the concerns about the bench!
I have a feeling every MU player's +/- would be significantly better in the 2nd half.
But I agree about the great development! Great to see. " Maybe the sky is not falling next year"
Marquette 78 Butler 69 Final Score last night was the same as Saint Louis 78 VCU 69 Final Score last night
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 29, 2025, 07:04:10 PMMarquette 78 Butler 69 Final Score last night was the same as Saint Louis 78 VCU 69 Final Score last night
If there was a fight at the Butler game like the one in St. Louis, Tower and MU82 probably would have been the ones who started it.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 29, 2025, 07:04:10 PMMarquette 78 Butler 69 Final Score last night was the same as Saint Louis 78 VCU 69 Final Score last night
It's all in the university's plan to be more like StLU.