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When they did the ceremony for Scholl before the game, I thought this is where this was headed.
Broeker? I hardly know her!
In all seriousness though, does this mean we can expect things to stay the same, or change in some way?
Quote from: K1 Lover on January 20, 2025, 04:31:54 PMIn all seriousness though, does this mean we can expect things to stay the same, or change in some way?
Not a dynamic hire, I'd say.
Probably won't bring the football program back. SMDH
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 20, 2025, 04:38:48 PMProbably won't bring the football program back. SMDH
Or Med School
Congratulations to him! It's nice to see his long-term commitment to MU rewarded.
Quote from: K1 Lover on January 20, 2025, 04:31:54 PMBroeker? I hardly know her!
In all seriousness though, does this mean we can expect things to stay the same, or change in some way?
It likely means they are happy with how the department is running and want to stay the course.
This is great news and well deserved. Shaka and him have a great relationship, and that's the most important aspect of the job. Congrats to him!
Congrats Mike! Well deserved.
A very good promotion.
I guess this means more games on Flo Sports, more games at Dayton, and absolutely NO hot dogs ever.
Keep Shaka happy.
Don't mess with happy
Is this also a DEI hire?
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 20, 2025, 07:02:59 PMIs this also a DEI hire?
If it backfires automatically yes
I don't have an informed opinion on this, but it's obviously a status quo hire that belies the point of a 'national search.'
Does this mean that we should expect this to be the height of Marquette sports? I can live with it -- we are in a tremendous place --but just feels shortsighted.
Outstanding! Marquette promoted from within for both its president and AD. This says the board of trustees is happy with the current direction and wanted to continue the same alignment. Well-deserved promotion!
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 20, 2025, 08:37:14 PMI don't have an informed opinion on this, but it's obviously a status quo hire that belies the point of a 'national search.'
Does this mean that we should expect this to be the height of Marquette sports? I can live with it -- we are in a tremendous place --but just feels shortsighted.
The essential issue that internal candidates always face is that people discount their ability to do the job. The truth is that we won't know if this is a good hire for awhile. We all want him to succeed.
Meh. Hope he deletes his Twitter/BlueSky account. I'm sure he will do fine, but feels like a very safe bet.
Quote from: The Sultan on January 20, 2025, 08:56:52 PMThe essential issue that internal candidates always face is that people discount their ability to do the job. The truth is that we won't know if this is a good hire for awhile. We all want him to succeed.
Need 5 years to judge.
How much does this effect our NET?
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 20, 2025, 08:37:14 PMI don't have an informed opinion on this, but it's obviously a status quo hire that belies the point of a 'national search.'
Does this mean that we should expect this to be the height of Marquette sports? I can live with it -- we are in a tremendous place --but just feels shortsighted.
Maybe after doing a national search, Marquette decided that a dedicated and qualified person already employed by the university was the best choice?
I don't know if that's what happened or not, but I at least allow for the possibility.
And I congratulate Mike, and wish him success and happiness.
We have seen the impact of a divide between the administration and a head coach of the basketball program. Obviously, circumstances vary, but Shaka seemed to be very close to Lovell, and he is unfortunately gone. I assume Shaka and Broeker have a good relationship and are on the same page in terms of the program. That could be a big deal in not messing with Shaka's "happy." I understand there is more to the AD position than men's basketball, but it drives the bus.
I honestly thought we already knew this. Apparently it was an assumption on my part. A personal Mandela Effect ?
Mike earned it. Glad he's finally moving up. I think the "national search" was in reality looking at Broeker and deciding if he was the guy and if he wasn't who was out there. My guess is Broeker has been running things things the past few months.
As he departs, I have a great appreciation for Bill Scholl. Bill Cords made two extremely courageous moves as AD in hiring KO and then, despite a lot of questioning by the fan base, cutting the cord on Mike Deane and bringing in TC. He saved us from becoming a mid-major. Scholl too made a courageous decision when he found way to get the money together to cut bait with Wojo and went all out to bring in Shaka from a Power 5, super wealthy program; a move which has taken the program to another level. We could have been Providence, instead, we've usurped Villanova. Post Al, the two Bills are the most important figures in the history of MU basketball leadership.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 21, 2025, 12:11:53 AMHow much does this effect our NET?
NET is doing well, approaching 3-year highs today.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 21, 2025, 09:01:00 AMNET is doing well, approaching 3-year highs today.
Good ROI
Done Deal:
https://today.marquette.edu/2025/01/marquette-university-promotes-mike-broeker-to-vice-president-and-director-of-athletics/
From the press release: "A former student-athlete at Siena College, Broeker was a two-year letterman as a pitcher for the baseball program."
Next up on the agenda: Marquette Varsity Baseball!!
Quote from: BrewCity83 on January 21, 2025, 04:24:07 PMFrom the press release: "A former student-athlete at Siena College, Broeker was a two-year letterman as a pitcher for the baseball program."
Next up on the agenda: Marquette Varsity Baseball!!
I still have eligibility. Only played Club Baseball while there.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on January 21, 2025, 04:24:07 PMFrom the press release: "A former student-athlete at Siena College, Broeker was a two-year letterman as a pitcher for the baseball program."
Next up on the agenda: Marquette Varsity Baseball!!
I hope they have hotdogs at The Crean Baseball Stadium.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 21, 2025, 04:51:31 PMI hope they have hotdogs at The Crean Baseball Stadium.
Sorry, his agenda is anti hot dog
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 21, 2025, 08:33:42 AMMike earned it. Glad he's finally moving up. I think the "national search" was in reality looking at Broeker and deciding if he was the guy and if he wasn't who was out there. My guess is Broeker has been running things things the past few months.
As he departs, I have a great appreciation for Bill Scholl. Bill Cords made two extremely courageous moves as AD in hiring KO and then, despite a lot of questioning by the fan base, cutting the cord on Mike Deane and bringing in TC. He saved us from becoming a mid-major. Scholl too made a courageous decision when he found way to get the money together to cut bait with Wojo and went all out to bring in Shaka from a Power 5, super wealthy program; a move which has taken the program to another level. We could have been Providence, instead, we've usurped Villanova. Post Al, the two Bills are the most important figures in the history of MU basketball leadership.
Agree with this entirely. Happy for Mike Broeker he has done an awesome job and earned it. Agree also Post AL the 2 Bills have been very important. Have said this earlier but Mr Cords whispered in my ear at the joining Big East Press Conference Marquette will be very good for a very long time. Mr Cords Knew. Mr Cords also hired Tom Crean. AL introduced introduced me to Tom Crean and Jack Harbaugh. Tom was writing down all AL said. A different time Al was sitting with George Thompson and a bunch of players and people trying to convince him to build the AL. AL called me over since he would talk to anyone and asked me what I thought. I said AL I would build it and call it the "AL" like the "Jake" in Cleveland. Jack Harbaugh asked me if Wade Was going pro and I said he got in a rusty car with ripped sweats after the Wake Forest game I think he is going pro. At the Wojo press conference Mike Lovell also held his hand up to my ear a whispered it is only basketball do not worry about it. These people at the Top know. As was said above Mr Scholl deserves credit for getting the money and hiring Shaka who this time accepted for multiple reasons. Mr Scholl made an awesome decision that has benefited the program. Mike Broeker understands Marquette and feel is a great choice.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 21, 2025, 08:33:42 AMScholl too made a courageous decision when he found way to get the money together to cut bait with Wojo and went all out to bring in Shaka from a Power 5, super wealthy program
While this statement is true at face value, there is obviously more context than that.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 22, 2025, 12:12:31 PMAgree with this entirely. Happy for Mike Broeker he has done an awesome job and earned it. Agree also Post AL the 2 Bills have been very important. Have said this earlier but Mr Cords whispered in my ear at the joining Big East Press Conference Marquette will be very good for a very long time. Mr Cords Knew. Mr Cords also hired Tom Crean. AL introduced introduced me to Tom Crean and Jack Harbaugh. Tom was writing down all AL said. A different time Al was sitting with George Thompson and a bunch of players and people trying to convince him to build the AL. AL called me over since he would talk to anyone and asked me what I thought. I said AL I would build it and call it the "AL" like the "Jake" in Cleveland. Jack Harbaugh asked me if Wade Was going pro and I said he got in a rusty car with ripped sweats after the Wake Forest game I think he is going pro. At the Wojo press conference Mike Lovell also held his hand up to my ear a whispered it is only basketball do not worry about it. These people at the Top know. As was said above Mr Scholl deserves credit for getting the money and hiring Shaka who this time accepted for multiple reasons. Mr Scholl made an awesome decision that has benefited the program. Mike Broeker understands Marquette and feel is a great choice.
There is a lot going on here.
But I mostly didn't realize that HermanCain has raised from the dead for a second time here.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 22, 2025, 12:12:31 PMAgree with this entirely. Happy for Mike Broeker he has done an awesome job and earned it. Agree also Post AL the 2 Bills have been very important. Have said this earlier but Mr Cords whispered in my ear at the joining Big East Press Conference Marquette will be very good for a very long time. Mr Cords Knew. Mr Cords also hired Tom Crean. AL introduced introduced me to Tom Crean and Jack Harbaugh. Tom was writing down all AL said. A different time Al was sitting with George Thompson and a bunch of players and people trying to convince him to build the AL. AL called me over since he would talk to anyone and asked me what I thought. I said AL I would build it and call it the "AL" like the "Jake" in Cleveland. Jack Harbaugh asked me if Wade Was going pro and I said he got in a rusty car with ripped sweats after the Wake Forest game I think he is going pro. At the Wojo press conference Mike Lovell also held his hand up to my ear a whispered it is only basketball do not worry about it. These people at the Top know. As was said above Mr Scholl deserves credit for getting the money and hiring Shaka who this time accepted for multiple reasons. Mr Scholl made an awesome decision that has benefited the program. Mike Broeker understands Marquette and feel is a great choice.
Are you implying Lovell knew Wojo was a bad hire?
Quote from: swoopem on January 22, 2025, 01:05:02 PMAre you implying Lovell knew Wojo was a bad hire?
Nah, he is just playing Herman
Anyone know if they are broadcasting the press conference? Can't seem to find a link if so.
On Shaka's radio show tonight he commented on the MB hiring and press conference.
First, he commented how great it was to see Travis Deiner today who was in attendance.
Regarding MB, Shaka said that no other candidate wanted this job more than Mike.......and that included every other applicant.
He also said that the knowledge that Mike possesses of the MU athletic department is unmatched. He has been a part of 4 bball coach hires and 12 or 13 head coaches for other sports at the university. Shaka said he was thankful for the welcoming effort that Mike gave to him when he first arrived.
Maybe just coach speak, but Shaka seemed very pleased with the hire.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 23, 2025, 08:32:58 PMOn Shaka's radio show tonight he commented on the MB hiring and press conference.
First, he commented how great it was to see Travis Deiner today who was in attendance.
Regarding MB, Shaka said that no other candidate wanted this job more than Mike.......and that included every other applicant.
He also said that the knowledge that Mike possesses of the MU athletic department is unmatched. He has been a part of 4 bball coach hires and 12 or 13 head coaches for other sports at the university. Shaka said he was thankful for the welcoming effort that Mike gave to him when he first arrived.
Maybe just coach speak, but Shaka seemed very pleased with the hire.
I have to believe Shaka was in control of this process.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 23, 2025, 08:45:10 PMI have to believe Shaka was in control of this process.
So Mrs. Smart finally got her wish? #donedeal
Quote from: avid1010 on January 23, 2025, 08:45:10 PMI have to believe Shaka was in control of this process.
He was not.
He had input, but I think after Buzz's tenure no MBB coach is gonna be able to pick his boss.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 23, 2025, 08:45:10 PMI have to believe Shaka was in control of this process.
He was not.
Quote from: The Sultan on January 23, 2025, 10:04:15 PMHe was not.
So nowhere along the way was Shaka asked if he wanted to give input, and Shaka saying "No" to a candidate would not have been a hard stop on a possible hire?
I'm not buying it. Perhaps Shaka said he didn't need to be involved, or perhaps he gave his approval to the hire, but if they didn't offer either of those options they are out of their minds.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 23, 2025, 09:32:52 PMHe was not.
He had input, but I think after Buzz's tenure no MBB coach is gonna be able to pick his boss.
So if his input was "don't hire MB" you think they would have hired MB? This isn't Buzz and this is post NIL. Buzz left for VA Tech...Shaka had a call with Kentucky. If Shaka didn't want MB...MB wouldn't have the job. If it went any other way the admin is crazy.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 24, 2025, 06:56:23 AMSo nowhere along the way was Shaka asked if he wanted to give input, and Shaka saying "No" to a candidate would not have been a hard stop on a possible hire?
I'm not buying it. Perhaps Shaka said he didn't need to be involved, or perhaps he gave his approval to the hire, but if they didn't offer either of those options they are out of their minds.
He certainly had input - he was not "in control of the search." A number of people could have said "no" on potential candidates and they would not have been hired. Like his boss, you know, the President of the school.
IMO, that is the hair to split. I have no doubt he was involved in the process. They would be foolish not to. I do not believe he was in charge.
Shaka should focus on fixing his program before worrying about who his boss is
Quote from: avid1010 on January 24, 2025, 06:58:44 AMSo if his input was "don't hire MB" you think they would have hired MB? This isn't Buzz and this is post NIL. Buzz left for VA Tech...Shaka had a call with Kentucky. If Shaka didn't want MB...MB wouldn't have the job. If it went any other way the admin is crazy.
What does Kentucky have to do with anything here?
Regardless, you seem very confident in knowing exactly how the hiring process played out, so I'll just defer to your extensive insider knowledge.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 24, 2025, 08:49:50 AMWhat does Kentucky have to do with anything here?
Regardless, you seem very confident in knowing exactly how the hiring process played out, so I'll just defer to your extensive insider knowledge.
The Buzz vs Shaka comparison seemed odd to me. Buzz didn't have the interest Shaka did, nor the clean reputation. When you have a coach that you want to keep, is squeaky clean, and can walk to a school like Kentucky...you probably allow him the option to veto the hire of the AD...thus giving him control of the process. If the President of MU didn't make that a requirement of the hire he's crazy as well...heck, if the MU Board didn't make that a requirement of the hire of the President they are crazy.
You said he was not in control of the process. Care to share your extensive insider knowledge?
It wasn't a comparison to Buzz. Sorry that was unclear.
Institutional control is a thing, and something you don't relax on because you love the head coach. MU learned that lesson the hard way. A lot of people who had to clean up that mess are still employed at MU. It's not a reflection on Shaka at all, and he's clearly fine operating under this structure since he turned down UL, UK, and a massive number from Michigan in the offseason.
FWIW I was told Shaka was fine with Mike and the other finalist. The BOT drove the final decision.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 24, 2025, 11:17:14 AMYou said he was not in control of the process. Care to share your extensive insider knowledge?
I think the problem here is you used the word "control." Shaka did not control the process. He had input into the process, and my guess is that his opinion and observations were heavily considered.
Quote from: The Sultan on January 24, 2025, 11:25:40 AMI think the problem here is you used the word "control." Shaka did not control the process. He had input into the process, and my guess is that his opinion and observations were heavily considered.
Yeah...I get I'm splitting hairs...but control is exactly the right word in my opinion. I fully understand he can't run the search and isn't on the Board, but when you have the power to say "yes" or "no" I think you ultimately control the process. If he chose to defer...great. There is no way they were going to hire someone Shaka didn't approve of, and there is no way they weren't going to ask for his input. What he did with that power is the only question I would have, and I hope they made it crystal clear that he had a veto if he wanted it.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 24, 2025, 11:40:46 AMYeah...I get I'm splitting hairs...but control is exactly the right word in my opinion. I fully understand he can't run the search and isn't on the Board, but when you have the power to say "yes" or "no" I think you ultimately control the process. If he chose to deffer...great. There is no way they were going to hire someone Shaka didn't approve of, and there is no way they weren't going to ask for his input. What he did with that power is the only question I would have, and I hope they made it crystal clear that he had a veto if he wanted it.
No. Control is not the right word.
If he said "Yes" to a candidate, and the President wasn't on board with that decision, then the candidate was not going to be hired.
But searches are way more nuanced that that. A healthy process seeks input from many people - and some is weighed more heavily than others. But Shaka did not select the candidate.
Seems like the safe and logical choice to go with the guy who has been with the university for two decades and has put his time in to earn the position. If the choice was anyone else, then I think it could be speculated on who had what influence but this just seemed to make sense to me. I actually just assumed he was the AD in waiting.
Quote from: The Sultan on January 24, 2025, 11:44:54 AMNo. Control is not the right word.
If he said "Yes" to a candidate, and the President wasn't on board with that decision, then the candidate was not going to be hired.
But searches are way more nuanced that that. A healthy process seeks input from many people - and some is weighed more heavily than others. But Shaka did not select the candidate.
Who selected the candidate and did they require Shaka's approval to select that person?
If the President said "yes" to a candidate and Shaka wasn't on board would that candidate be selected?
Would they take a candidate to the President that Shaka said "no" to?
If Shaka and the President didn't agree on the candidate...who would carry more weight with the Board?
Would the Board hire a President that Shaka said "no" to?
How is "control" defined?
And how do you know who had more of it?
Quote from: avid1010 on January 24, 2025, 01:03:46 PMWho selected the candidate and did they require Shaka's approval to select that person?
If the President said "yes" to a candidate and Shaka wasn't on board would that candidate be selected?
Would they take a candidate to the President that Shaka said "no" to?
If Shaka and the President didn't agree on the candidate...who would carry more weight with the Board?
Would the Board hire a President that Shaka said "no" to?
I'm assuming Marquette works like any organization where a decision or key leader maker gets input from important stakeholders before making a decision or bringing it to the board.
In what world does the an authority figure land in that situation? It's probably one where either the coach's opinion isn't valued or the leader isn't qualified.
This is so dumb, even for Scoop.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 24, 2025, 01:39:24 PMThis is so dumb, even for Scoop.
I'm offended!! Even more than no hot dogs. Who do you think you're to post an opinion like this!