1. An odd trait I have noticed about MU over the years. Which coach no matta, as it goes back to at least Crean. When MU hits 3's early, they inevitably get lazy on offense and become 3 happy. It flared up tonight.
2. MU is playing well, Shaka goes to the bench, and everything shifted. Even when the defense was solid and the shot choices the right ones, it just didn't matter. Nothing to do but keep working. Can't play the starters 40.
3. Kam is in a shooting slump. NPOYs take and make that lay up with 3 minutes left rather than dishing out. And are smarter with the ball at crunch time.
4. It is time to contemplate an adjustment to switching 1-5. Opponents are working really hard to force switches, isolating Ben in space defending guards and MU guards defending the post.
5. A flaw of MU tonight was that they did not seek out contact when they got the ball in the paint.
6. The corollary is that MU stood still too much against the zone. Again. Have to move the ball and bodies.
7. When Rivera threw in the prayer, I thought that was it. In overtime, FFS.
8. DePaul just didn't care who was guarding them. Kudos.
9. Clean block by Ben at the end of regulation. And then another clean block at the end of OT. Too close to overturn either.
10. Dodging bullets like Neo.
Never a doubt.
Depaul sucks...
We were persecuted but prevailed
Maybe "packing" their arena isn't a good thing. They seemed to feed off the crowd. Maybe their typical empty gym is worse than a semi road game.
Worst win in the Shaka era? Normally I'm a "wins a win" guy but wow that was alarmingly bad. The bench has gone from not great to a complete liability and Kam is a shadow of his earlier season self and has bad 2 brutal games in a row
One the "weirdest" games in some time. I thought of the matrix as well, MU seemingly coming out unscathed every dangerous encounter. Credit to chase for the crazy 3. This board would be in melt down mode if that missed.
6. How have our seemingly outstanding offensive minds on this coaching staff not figured out better zone schemes?
Quote from: Johnny B on January 14, 2025, 08:38:06 PMOne the "weirdest" games in some time. I thought of the matrix as well, MU seemingly coming out unscathed every dangerous encounter. Credit to chase for the crazy 3. This board would be in melt down mode if that missed.
Not sure a win will prevent a meltdown. And I'm talking about me, not the board
I told my buddies in our text chain that I didn't really mind that the goaltending call stood - because that meant DePaul wouldn't get the chance to throw in a wild 3 to beat us at the buzzer.
After watching Rivera at the end of OT, that feeling was justified.
The board was already in meltdown mode.
They can scheme all they want, but the players have to execute.
Quote from: MU82 on January 14, 2025, 08:39:40 PMAfter watching Rivera at the end of OT, that feeling was justified.
At least with the 3's in OT he was looking at the rim before hitting the them. I don't think that was the case on all his made shots
Quote from: MU82 on January 14, 2025, 08:39:40 PMI told my buddies in our text chain that I didn't really mind that the goaltending call stood - because that meant DePaul wouldn't get the chance to throw in a wild 3 to beat us at the buzzer.
After watching Rivera at the end of OT, that feeling was justified.
Felt the exact same. What a wild game. Would have been a fun one to watch for a casual fan.
Lappas wondering why Mitchell wasn't in the game with 20 seconds left in OT was humorous.
The lack of rim protection on defense is a problem as well.
We suck
Do we have any more weeks in the schedule where were off 7 days? We squeaked through the rust on this one.
Fair, blunt observations, Tower.
2. Totally agree...MU goes up 11 early, starters out (with confidence/arrogance) and subs in. Things go to hell, and energy can't easily be regained.
3. Yes, but...if Kam makes that 3 at the end of regulation to win the game, he's right back up there with Flagg for POY.
Phew.
Oh and the bench has basically disappeared. No bench points tonight. Some rebounds from Tre but by and large they were awful.
Quote from: warriors141 on January 14, 2025, 08:37:21 PMWorst win in the Shaka era? Normally I'm a "wins a win" guy but wow that was alarmingly bad. The bench has gone from not great to a complete liability and Kam is a shadow of his earlier season self and has bad 2 brutal games in a row
St. Thomas
It kinda felt like DePaul was fully DePauling in OT until Rivera decided to go all Steph
Quote from: MU82 on January 14, 2025, 08:39:40 PMI told my buddies in our text chain that I didn't really mind that the goaltending call stood - because that meant DePaul wouldn't get the chance to throw in a wild 3 to beat us at the buzzer.
After watching Rivera at the end of OT, that feeling was justified.
I was thinking the exact same thing
Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 14, 2025, 08:42:04 PMLappas wondering why Mitchell wasn't in the game with 20 seconds left in OT was humorous.
Not just that, he was questioning why they sub'ed him out as if he was in the game...
Quote from: tower912 on January 14, 2025, 08:39:54 PMThe board was already in meltdown mode.
They can scheme all they want, but the players have to execute.
Is your implication that there is scheme/strategy that the coaches are trying to implement but the players can't or won't execute?
Kam needs to find his jumper badly.
Wish Ben was comfortable flashing at the free throw line against a zone due to his size but he clearly is not.
Hopefully Shaka can find some better rotations to get the bench some minutes without completely disrupting the flow of the game because that unit has regressed and then he's forced to play starters most of the 2nd half.
That shooting display from Rivera made me nauseous.
Hopefully this is a bit of a wake-up call. Can't lose any games to DePaul, Butler or Seton Hall.
I think someone mentioned in the game chat that Stevie looked under the weather. Shaka just confirmed on the post-game... "all stuffed up".
Does Chicago have a G League team that plays at Wintrust? Jop would be their best signing
Second game in a row where MU has been brought to their knees by a simple 2-3 zone. Can not rely on 3s to break the zone. We don't have a shooter who is automatic to do that.
Shaka needs to go to something else against the zone. I think they need to use the pivot offense and I think we saw it a couple times late in regulation. Kam flashes to the free throw line and they pass it to him. Now he can drive, hit a cutter or if the zone completely sags pass out for wide open 3s.
We have got to make teams pay for playing zone or we're going to start losing these game.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 14, 2025, 08:49:31 PMIs your implication that there is scheme/strategy that the coaches are trying to implement but the players can't or won't execute?
Yes. You even saw it a few times tonight, with different players flashing to the foul line area...Kam got the ball, turned and shot floaters rather than attack and seek contact. Ben caught the ball there and immediately gave it up. Stevie caught it and drove diagonally away from contact, leading to a shot block. MU got the ball right where they wanted several times and then did not exploit it. And then they became passive.
Quote from: warriors141 on January 14, 2025, 08:37:21 PMWorst win in the Shaka era? Normally I'm a "wins a win" guy but wow that was alarmingly bad. The bench has gone from not great to a complete liability and Kam is a shadow of his earlier season self and has bad 2 brutal games in a row
18 points, 6 rebounds and 11 assists. Brutal.
Quote from: mug644 on January 14, 2025, 08:56:25 PM18 points, 6 rebounds and 11 assists. Brutal.
Sure...but he went 8/21 and 1/10 to get there.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 14, 2025, 08:54:42 PMDoes Chicago have a G League team that plays at Wintrust? Jop would be their best signing
The combine is there. Maybe Jop can wow the scouts and get drafted
Quote from: The Sultan on January 14, 2025, 08:57:18 PMSure...but he went 8/21 and 1/10 to get there.
In a victory.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 14, 2025, 08:38:06 PMCredit to chase for the crazy 3.
Why was it "crazy"? He was wide open, he caught the ball clean, and he's a good spot-up shooter.
The only crazy part was that for once we actually attacked the zone well with penetration and a kick.
Fortunately we'll have a few more games against the zone before UCONN who will do it better than the rest. Maybe we'll figure it out by then. Because we know it's coming.
Quote from: MU82 on January 14, 2025, 09:03:42 PMWhy was it "crazy"? He was wide open, he caught the ball clean, and he's a good spot-up shooter.
The only crazy part was that for once we actually attacked the zone well with penetration and a kick.
Cause the stakes/pressure of the shot ?
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 14, 2025, 08:54:42 PMDoes Chicago have a G League team that plays at Wintrust? Jop would be their best signing
NBA Combine, baby. Get that paper, Jop!
The problem I'm seeing with the zone offense is they're not reading and reacting to the play. It's too static. If they drive into it and the defense collapses, there's no cut in behind.
I'd also bring two up rather than one flash at the FT line. Run off them and make the defense make a choice.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 14, 2025, 08:42:04 PMLappas wondering why Mitchell wasn't in the game with 20 seconds left in OT was humorous.
He also had the hot take "the key to DePaul winning the game is maintaining their lead".
Their lead was one at that point.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 14, 2025, 09:22:28 PMHe also had the hot take "the key to DePaul winning the game is maintaining their lead".
Their lead was one at that point.
Does he post on scoop, I ponder?
I've seen several very good Marquette teams go to Chicago and lose to all-time bad DePaul teams.
I will take this any day.
(but please figure out the zone)
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 14, 2025, 09:22:28 PMHe also had the hot take "the key to DePaul winning the game is maintaining their lead".
Their lead was one at that point.
Yeah, but ya gotta admit...it was
true now, wasn't it?
https://x.com/whatawouldusay/status/1879364038481859018?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw
Couldn't watch live, but even knowing the outcome that was a stressful watch.
This team looked uninterested until it really mattered.
Quote from: lostpassword on January 14, 2025, 08:51:34 PMI think someone mentioned in the game chat that Stevie looked under the weather. Shaka just confirmed on the post-game... "all stuffed up".
I should be a teledoc
A strong agree on points 1 to 6.
Bench is a detriment. The kudos Ben has been getting on D this year should all be taken back. Having him guard a guard is nuts, and unproductive.
We've been the beneficiary of a soft front-loaded BE schedule. It's going to get tougher.
You can't be having nip and tuck games with the likes of Georgetown and DePaul and expect to be playing in April. The lack of depth is a big problem.
And despite having to give Lappas some of his due, the O against a zone is not setting any records.
If the coaching staff can make some adjustments, we can be optimistic. At the present time, surpassing last year's team's tournament performance seems unlikely.
Joplin Hot Again At Wintrust
Can Homer ask one legitimate question in the post game interview? I'm just asking for a single question germane to the actual game that just unfolded. It's nothing but inane grab ass, with every post game interaction starting in the same fashion - "Coach, I can't wait to hear what you have to say tonight." Homer is beyond atrocious on play by play, and after two hours of incoherent drivel we can't even get one effing relevant question for the coach. Oy vey!
Kam went for 18 pts, 11 assists, 6 rebs and 3 steals, and he committed only 1 turnover in 42 minutes.
Shooting poorly doesn't mean he played poorly.
Quote from: The Sultan on January 14, 2025, 08:42:23 PMThe lack of rim protection on defense is a problem as well.
As in, with 6 seconds left in regulation and the two point lead we let a guard all the way to the rim.
I'm not worried about this team. I'd be worried if we didn't know what the issue was.
We are winning games despite our glaring issue, and that issue is fixable. If DePaul can get 27 points from their bench, I'm confident Marquette can figure it out. Someone or someone's will have to step up and I believe they will. Too much talent.
DePaul looked pretty good tonight. As the number 7 team in the country, every opponent is going to bring us the best they've got. Yes, DePaul made a bunch of prayers and we are struggling with zones, and the lack of production from the bench is concerning. But it was a Big East road win nonetheless. I was impressed with Chase's clutch shooting at the end of regulation and Jop's 3 point shooting in OT. I don't think things are as dire as some folks are making it out to be.
I don't think Lappas has a vendetta against MU, but I think he's overly obsessed with wanting to see/cheer for a big upset. The past 2 games he's been frothing at the mouth praising mediocre players as they played MU close. Tonight the last 3-4 minutes of regulation was insufferable with his nonsense. He was venerating Enright into Kolek levels He absolutely stinks
Kam was 0-9 and Chase was 0-4 from 3
Each hit a 3 under 50s left with Marquette down to take this game into OT.
That's really all you need to know on how grateful Marquette fans should be about actually pulling this one off.
Offensively and shooting wise, Benny and David saved the pooch, and they were the ones struggling earlier this season.
Great defense in a massive moment again on the over and back by Tevie. One of those moments when you knew it would take him to bail out out... those are getting too common.
Shaka and Kameron just feel a bit "off"
Kams counting stats end up looking ok, but you can just see it. It's like he's always positive re-enforcing his teammates out there but he's trying to convince himself it's all ok, if that makes sense.
I think he needs to come off the ball to just re-set and get some new space a bit, but who can take him off the ball?
As for Shaka, he subbed the entire bench in together early, they sucked and blew the lead, and he never trusted them again, except to play Tre, who has been pretty rough.
Not being able to get something out of Zaide, Parham, Damarius this deep into the season against DePaul after a few full weeks of practice is a tough look, but Shaka knows and he's earn the right to do what he pleases. Maybe he's trying to show them all that you don't play if you aren't ready, especially defensively.
That said, 15-2, 6-0 in conference with a top 10 ranking is better than we could've wished for, so get back in the lab and right that ship before any Ls come and it'll all be alright.
Just win em all and get to 29-2, 20-0 and it won't matta how close they are
Quote from: MU82 on January 14, 2025, 10:12:34 PMKam went for 18 pts, 11 assists, 6 rebs and 3 steals, and he committed only 1 turnover in 42 minutes.
Shooting poorly doesn't mean he played poorly.
Agreed. He will get out of this slump. But in the meantime he's doing everything else at a high level to keep them in games.
Wades said in another thread that we are going to get every teams best shot. I completely agree. Keep grinding out wins while the Riveras and Gunns of this conference keep shooting lights out against us and I think the team will be better for it come March.
Was hoping the bench would get more time against this portion of the schedule. Agree with others that this will be paramount to going on a deep run. DO and Parnham need to help out on offense while their defense suffers as freshmen, otherwise Shaka has to sit them in close games. We are missing an athletic wing who can score. Still hoping DO can help with that this year. The sophomores are not stepping up enough to be relied on consistently. Was surprised that Parnham came in for Stevie when he fouled out. Thought it would be Zaide for defensive purposes. Maybe he was not feeling well either.
I'll take the win and move on. Fun but nerve racking game to be at.
That game was painful to watch but MU figured out a way win.
First half D was brutal. MU let DePaul get comfortable scoring in the paint and the confidence carried over to the 3s. At the end, most of the 3s DePaul hit were defended. 12 points by one guy in 42 seconds. Not sure I've ever seen that.
Against the zone, you see that MU does not have a player that's played PG for a long time. IMO, they abandoned the pass to the FT line too quickly. If a top defender dropped to the FT line initially. MU stopped looking. That area often opened up but MU just tossed the ball around the perimeter.
Take the win. MU has a lot to work on.
Kam 8-40 from 3 in BE play, yet MU is 6-0 in conference matchups. Wait until he starts cookin'.
Quote from: ski44 on January 14, 2025, 11:54:35 PMKam 8-40 from 3 in BE play, yet MU is 6-0 in conference matchups. Wait until he starts cookin'.
That is the hope. Kam need to hit from three for this team to be at its best.
Quote from: JWags85 on January 14, 2025, 11:05:53 PMI don't think Lappas has a vendetta against MU, but I think he's overly obsessed with wanting to see/cheer for a big upset. The past 2 games he's been frothing at the mouth praising mediocre players as they played MU close. Tonight the last 3-4 minutes of regulation was insufferable with his nonsense. He was venerating Enright into Kolek levels He absolutely stinks
Let's get a blowout win in the next game he calls and we will not have to deal with it.
By the way, I'm a bit disappointed in the thread title. I was thinking something along the lines of Goldtend? or Ben-e-foot
If the goaltend had been overturned, the thread was going to be Block of Gold. I was typing 'Over-Kam-ing adversity' as the shot at the end of regulation was in the air. Depauling Outcome was up for a while. Defense failed to travel. I was rooting for one more 3 from Ben and an easy win. Ben Gold's Five would have been fun for the music geeks out there.
I hate the title, too. I, too, have to live with a disappointing win.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 14, 2025, 08:50:09 PMKam needs to find his jumper badly.
Wish Ben was comfortable flashing at the free throw line against a zone due to his size but he clearly is not.
Hopefully Shaka can find some better rotations to get the bench some minutes without completely disrupting the flow of the game because that unit has regressed and then he's forced to play starters most of the 2nd half.
That shooting display from Rivera made me nauseous.
Hopefully this is a bit of a wake-up call. Can't lose any games to DePaul, Butler or Seton Hall.
It is uncanny. When Ben gets a pass in the lane with his back to the basket, he doesn't even look at the basket and is desperate to get rid of the ball as fast as he can.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 14, 2025, 09:22:28 PMHe also had the hot take "the key to DePaul winning the game is maintaining their lead".
Their lead was one at that point.
I actually thought that was a cogent point at the time, one of a few he made last night, but it turned out not to be correct. We took the lead and they took it right back and stretched it to 5.
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 15, 2025, 06:23:37 AMIt is uncanny. When Ben gets a pass in the lane with his back to the basket, he doesn't even look at the basket and is desperate to get rid of the ball as fast as he can.
He's like a guard in some ways
Like catching that point-blank pass from Chase at full speed and managing to go up for a dunk with only one step. Our past bunch of centers would have had to stop and 2-foot jump that bad boy.
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2025, 05:55:30 AMIf the goaltend had been overturned, the thread was going to be Block of Gold. I was typing 'Over-Kam-ing adversity' as the shot at the end of regulation was in the air. Depauling Outcome was up for a while. Defense failed to travel. I was rooting for one more 3 from Ben and an easy win. Ben Gold's Five would have been fun for the music geeks out there.
I hate the title, too. I, too, have to live with a disappointing win.
Win Jop We Trust
If I was more cruel, I would have used 'Joplin, Misery' at some point. Love the pun, hate the message.
I have a bunch of Kam related puns ready to go when he starts taking over games again.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 14, 2025, 08:35:25 PMMaybe "packing" their arena isn't a good thing. They seemed to feed off the crowd. Maybe their typical empty gym is worse than a semi road game.
I thought games at Wintrust (and Allstate Arena before) counted as home games for us.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 14, 2025, 08:35:25 PMMaybe "packing" their arena isn't a good thing. They seemed to feed off the crowd. Maybe their typical empty gym is worse than a semi road game.
I have had this thought for awhile now. This is one game during the season Wintrust has a bit of a buzz to it.
This team has three major issues: lack of bench performance; inconsistent outside shooting; and continued problems against zone defense. The problems against the zone can be fixed by the coaching staff. The other two issues will either cure themselves or they won't.
1. We will continue to get everyone's best shot against us and the Big East might be down this year, but it is not out. Lots of solid teams.
2. We have to bring it defensively all game every game. Second game in a row where our defense was not good for long stretches in the first half.
3. To continue with point 2 above, the bench is struggling to defend at the level the starters defend. Is this fixable?
4. I don't know if Zaide is struggling with his injury, but he is the one that needs to step up defensively first, then offensively to be able to play 20 minutes a game subbing out the starters. He has the ability; he needs to do consistently sooner than later.
5. Some clutch shots at the very end of the game from Kam, Chase and Joplin.
6. Happy to see Gold have success offensively after that awful game against Georgetown and that was a great block.
Quote from: mug644 on January 14, 2025, 08:44:56 PM...he's right back up there with Flagg for POY.
I think that ship has sailed. And not
primarily because of anything Kam has done...or hasn't done (although he hasn't helped himself too much lately). Kam is still getting mentions for the NPOY race, and that's great, but it seems like the sports press has shifted hard in favor of Flagg over the past week or 10 days. I think Flagg has the momentum and I'd be surprised if anything slowed that down.
Not to mention, Flagg looks really good.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 15, 2025, 11:41:55 AMI think that ship has sailed. And not primarily because of anything Kam has done...or hasn't done (although he hasn't helped himself too much lately). Kam is still getting mentions for the NPOY race, and that's great, but it seems like the sports press has shifted hard in favor of Flagg over the past week or 10 days. I think Flagg has the momentum and I'd be surprised if anything slowed that down.
Agreed. It's really a 2-horse race with Flagg and Broome and with Flagg putting up 42 points and Broome getting hurt, it is Flagg in the lead.
Still nice to have Kam brought up in the discussion but the leaders are far ahead and out of sight.
Quote from: The Sultan on January 15, 2025, 11:45:45 AMNot to mention, Flagg looks really good.
Oh, absolutely. He's outstanding. I wasn't trying to suggest that he doesn't deserve the hype. I just think that he's got the momentum now and the press is falling in behind him. At this point, it will take something pretty spectacular to overtake him.
Kam...let's see something spectacular.
Quote from: Big Papi on January 15, 2025, 11:49:25 AMAgreed. It's really a 2-horse race with Flagg and Broome and with Flagg putting up 42 points and Broome getting hurt, it is Flagg in the lead.
I thought Broome had a shot at it because he's played so well, but now he's going to get hurt by the "out of sight, out of mind" mentality just when the Duke hype machine really gets chugging. A really unfortunate injury just when the race with Flagg was heating up.
Quote from: The Sultan on January 15, 2025, 11:45:45 AMNot to mention, Flagg looks really good.
This. I'm always skeptical about uber-hyped athletes. But when those athletes live up to the hype, they deserve all the plaudits. The pressure athletes such as Wembanyama, Caitlin Clark and now Flagg faced/face to live up to an insane amount of hype ... and then to come through and deliver on it ... pretty special.
It's hard to believe that Flagg isn't WAY ahead in this race, and deservedly so. Broome's injury pretty much clinched it for him.
Biggest issue I saw in the game was MU consistently hesitating to attack the zone. Everyone was waiting for someone else to move. Not a Smart approach. Too much thinking and not enough quick reaction. Zone defense apparently causes temporary paralysis. I think it is more in their heads than a real limitation.
Quote from: Class71 on January 15, 2025, 01:17:54 PMBiggest issue I saw in the game was MU consistently hesitating to attack the zone. Everyone was waiting for someone else to move. Not a Shaka Smart approach. Too much thinking and not enough quick reaction. Zone defense apparently causes temporary paralysis. I think it is more in their heads than a real limitation.
Fixed it for you...although I'm still not quite sure what the Shaka Smart approach to killing a zone defense is quite yet?
Quote from: tower912 on January 14, 2025, 08:32:29 PM9. Clean block by Ben at the end of regulation. And then another clean block at the end of OT. Too close to overturn either.
It really wasn't too close though. It only took 1 or 2 replays to clearly see he made contact with the ball before it touched glass. Egregiously bad officiating.
Day after pondering...
Getting a player to the foul line and passing them the ball is critical for beating the zone. So is driving the gaps. So is rapid ball movement. Shaka said in his post game presser that zones are predictable in regards to where the spaces are going to be and the rotations.
Last night, all 5 starters flashed to the foul line area and received passes at different times. Ben passed a nanosecond second later, Kam missed floaters, Stevie got his weak stuff swatted, Chase drove, stopped, passed back out.
The weakness last night was threefold, two of which are fixable.
1. Getting to the next action after receiving a pass in space. Make the defense move.
2. Move the ball quicker and attack gaps. Less passivity.
3. Have Kam shoot better than 1-10 from 3. If he shoots 4-10, we probably aren't having this discussion.
When Gold did get the ball at the FT line, he quickly threw it back out up top. IMO, he needs to pivot and look to his teammates in the corners and read the baseline defenders. That was not the only issue with the zone offense, but it is just an example of where MU can be more aggressive. I would not mind seeing Ben take one bounce from the FT line and go in for a dunk attempt.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 14, 2025, 10:16:53 PMI'm not worried about this team. I'd be worried if we didn't know what the issue was.
We are winning games despite our glaring issue, and that issue is fixable. If DePaul can get 27 points from their bench, I'm confident Marquette can figure it out. Someone or someone's will have to step up and I believe they will. Too much talent.
Especially since Royce stretches the floor so much. You'd think other guys would have wide open lanes to the rim.
The problem with getting the ball to the FT line against that zone nowadays is that the zone doesn't contract anymore. Guys are taught to fan out to the shooters. Let the guy at the FT line beat you with a 15 footer or drive it into the big man. Most kids aren't comfortable in that space. You saw that last night when we did get it there. There wasn't a lot of great basketball being played from that open space.
Quote from: MU90620 on January 15, 2025, 04:27:43 PMThe problem with getting the ball to the FT line against that zone nowadays is that the zone doesn't contract anymore. Guys are taught to fan out to the shooters. Let the guy at the FT line beat you with a 15 footer or drive it into the big man. Most kids aren't comfortable in that space. You saw that last night when we did get it there. There wasn't a lot of great basketball being played from that open space.
I agree 100% with this.
MU needs to get going on the offensive glass when teams go zone. That's why many teams don't like playing zone and its a way for MU to stop it. They did this to Butler.
Isaiah Rivera scored 12 points in 43 seconds. Is that some kind of all time record?
Quote from: Mutaman on January 15, 2025, 08:51:09 PMIsaiah Rivera scored 12 points in 43 seconds. Is that some kind of all time record?
Tracy McGrady scored 13 points in 33 seconds.
The craziest though is 8 points in 9 seconds by Reggie Miller.
Those are both NBA.
Had we lost the game in OT though, we would have broke the record for largest lead given up in the last minute of OT. (current record is 7 points).
Quote from: forgetful on January 15, 2025, 10:09:00 PMTracy McGrady scored 13 points in 33 seconds.
The craziest though is 8 points in 9 seconds by Reggie Miller.
Those are both NBA.
Had we lost the game in OT though, we would have broke the record for largest lead given up in the last minute of OT. (current record is 7 points).
Marquette scored 5 points in like 2 seconds against Creighton in 2018-19 🤣
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 15, 2025, 11:39:52 PMMarquette scored 5 points in like 2 seconds against Creighton in 2018-19 🤣
Been a very close observer of Marquette basketball for nearly 50 years. That was the most impossible MU victory I've ever seen. There was no freakin' way we could win that game ... but we did.
Next in line would be the Davidson game.
Quote from: MU82 on January 16, 2025, 11:48:09 AMBeen a very close observer of Marquette basketball for nearly 50 years. That was the most impossible MU victory I've ever seen. There was no freakin' way we could win that game ... but we did.
Creighton literally could have tossed the ball to Theo who was guarding the inbound and won the game.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 16, 2025, 12:15:46 PMCreighton literally could have tossed the ball to Theo who was guarding the inbound and won the game.
Yep. Just handed it to him. So either McDermott didn't tell the IB that, or the IB panicked majorly.
I used to coach at Hornets basketball camps and each session each coach would get a team to work with - drills, skills and games. One session I had a really bad team - mostly awful players but even worse they just didn't pay attention. In one game, one of my guys hit a miracle 3 to put us up 3, and then our opponent turned it over under our defensive basket with 1 second left. I called time-out and told my IB to just toss it to any opposing player standing near the basket because the only way they could tie us is if they hit a 3. Didn't matter who. Just give it to whoever is closest. So he gets the ball from the ref, panics, tries a full-court pass and it sails out of bounds. You know what happens next - they hit a 3 and tie it, and then they kill us in OT. That's some bad coaching there!