Portugal, The Man version. Not Mad Magazine version.
1. Bad halves happen.
2. Good halves happen. Making shots and getting stops helps.
3. Chase was a man tonight. One more thread that can be 'accidentally' deleted.
4. The team is tough minded and resilient. So is the coach.
5. Turnovers, not usually a problem, were tonight. Out of character.
6. Tre had a game. Not quote SOTG worthy. Too bad. That would have been an epic prediction to get right. Only productive sub in the second half.
7. Jean Felix night for the whole Georgetown team. Crazy.
8. I don't gamble. Games like this reinforce that decision.
9. I trust there were no hot takes in the game chat. I will read it tomorrow.
10. W. Get Thievie healthy and develop the rest of the bench behind Tre.
11. Did they find anything on Oak Island?
Take the dub, hit the tub, enjoy the pub
The game thread remains undefeated in its hilarity and bad takes.
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2025, 09:11:31 PMPortugal, The Man version. Not Mad Magazine version.
1. Bad halves happen.
2. Good halves happen. Making shots and getting stops helps.
3. Chase was a man tonight. One more thread that can be 'accidentally' deleted.
4. The team is tough minded and resilient. So is the coach.
5. Turnovers, not usually a problem, were tonight. Out of character.
6. Tre had a game. Not quote SOTG worthy. Too bad. That would have been an epic prediction to get right. Only productive sub in the second half.
7. Jean Felix night for the whole Georgetown team. Crazy.
8. I don't gamble. Games like this reinforce that decision.
9. I trust there were no hot takes in the game chat. I will read it tomorrow.
10. W. Get Thievie healthy and develop the rest of the bench behind Tre.
11. Did they find anything on Oak Island?
DVR was set for Oak Island!
Definitely one we could've given away the way it was going. Great second half effort. Georgetown is tough. Even when we got momentum they would not go away.
Another Grind. Curious to see GT V UCONN
That was stressful. Gtown much better than I thought. Glad to see Cooley have that program pointed in the right direction. Some legit talent on that squad.
Sorber is a dude
Congrats to MU.
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Positives: Finding a way to win another ugly one and closing out a win again
Negatives: Having to win ugly again and the turnovers
Buckle up, the rest of league play is going to be a grind, methinks. A little Big East basket brawl
FTs matta. eFG% no matta.
Game thread is designed for bad takes. All immediate emotion and no time for thought. It's excellent at what it does.
12/12 FTs in the final 4 minutes
Cooley is going to have his Georgetown teams play just as physical (sometimes bordering on dirty) as his Providence teams did.
Georgetown may be a legitimate tournament team. I need to see more evidence, but I will pencil them in.
Great win. Games against Cooley won't be easy. He's really establishing a culture there. I think Providence fans are just starting to realize that they got the short end of the stick on that trade.
KenPom had this 79-66, fwiw
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2025, 09:22:56 PMKenPom had this 79-66, fwiw
MU inexplicably missed at least 5 points worth of shots so pretty accurate
Shaka playd alot of subs in the first half and Stevie's +/_ must be huge. When he sat and we had the frosh in we got creamed. If Shaka just played his best players maximum minutes we would be ken pom faves in offense and defense. But he plays the whole team as part of his general philosophy on retention and development and that is going to mean 2 seeds for a decade. Love this team and program.
Amazing that Cooley did that without Epps. Very concerned about the game in DC assuming he plays.
That zone D of theirs...they clobber every offensive rebounder. Gold on at least 3 occassions got smacked in face or head trying to get off rebound.
Welcome to the Big East I guess.
Quote from: milwaukee expat on January 07, 2025, 09:27:26 PMShaka playd alot of subs in the first half and Stevie's +/_ must be huge. When he sat and we had the frosh in we got creamed. If Shaka just played his best players maximum minutes we would be ken pom faves in offense and defense. But he plays the whole team as part of his general philosophy on retention and development and that is going to mean 2 seeds for a decade. Love this team and program.
Not only that but you can't really play a short rotation the entire game. And the starters were in plenty when Georgetown was making their run. The energy was bad on defense.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2025, 09:22:56 PMKenPom had this 79-66, fwiw
That result will most certainly have a negative effect on our NET ranking😂
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 07, 2025, 09:27:55 PMAmazing that Cooley did that without Epps. Very concerned about the game in DC assuming he plays.
That zone D of theirs...they clobber every offensive rebounder. Gold on at least 3 occassions got smacked in face or head trying to get off rebound.
Welcome to the Big East I guess.
Yup. And then while 1 (and oftentimes 2) of the guys crashing the offensive glass get shoved out of bounds or to the ground, Georgetown has a numbers advantage going the other way.
In the last 90 seconds of the game Mack looked defeated. He played a hell of a game but I think MU's defense literally wore him down and he had nothing left
When that last foul appeared to be called on Chase, I 100% believed it was karma for the end of the X game. Thankfully (unlike that one), this one was called correctly.
Chase and Stevie stepped up big when we needed them.
Ben Gold just needs to forget all about tonight. He couldn't even catch the ball or make simple passes. Hope he shakes that one off soon.
This team just figures out ways to win. Very impressive. But we should probably work on breaking down a zone D..
Also, that was the most crap talk from an opposing team I've seen in a long time. Seems like a Cooley team trait. unnatural carnal knowledge em
Quote from: The Sultan on January 07, 2025, 09:29:33 PMNot only that but you can't really play a short rotation the entire game. And the starters were in plenty when Georgetown was making their run. The energy was bad on defense.
Some starters but I would be interested in seeing what the +/- was with our whole starting 5 in. I love seeing the freshman play, especially when Parham jacks up a 3 the minute he's open. Its only going to mean he hits more of them later in the season I think. Its not a slam dunk strategy but Shaka takes chances like that. Georgetown really isn't that good - he can get away with playing the frosh, getting them minutes - not in a blow out but when the game still matters - and even if they screw up and we fall behind by 10+ we can still pull it out because our starting 5 is 15 + their best players.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 07, 2025, 09:27:55 PMAmazing that Cooley did that without Epps. Very concerned about the game in DC assuming he plays.
That zone D of theirs...they clobber every offensive rebounder. Gold on at least 3 occassions got smacked in face or head trying to get off rebound.
Welcome to the Big East I guess.
I like our odds better if he plays.
He was 7 for 25 shooting with 9 Turnovers against us last year.
Said at the half that we'd learn about this team in the second half, and indeed they responded, and good for them (and us).
My concern for tonight is about the flat periods, when the team doesn't seem to be playing cohesively with a purpose, such as we saw in the first half. I think it's on Shaka to stop it. He needs to take a TO and drive home the point that at the stage they're at, every single possession has to be played with passion and purpose. Basically he needs to wake them up.
They are a very, very good team, but not a great team. They can approach greatness with concentrated effort, but cannot afford slack periods like tonight's first half. They won't get away with it against better teams than GT.
Win anyway.
Great second half. A little too much solo ball (not UConn) at times. When the ball moved, so did Marquette.
Tip of the cap to Georgetown. Classic BEast game feel. Feel like they're on an upswing.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 07, 2025, 09:40:21 PMI like our odds better if he plays.
He was 7 for 25 shooting with 9 Turnovers against us last year.
Yeah. If you thought Mack in 2nd half was all over the place with shots, Epps makes Mack look like he's playing within himself
We're gonna see more zone until we prove we can consistently beat it. Gtown looked a lot more comfortable against our zone than we did against theirs.
Do we not have out of bounds plays? Don't even need something to get an easy layup or open three, just to get it in bounds. Seems like it's 4 people standing and then a lob up to Ben. Works most of the time but there's no reason we should be struggling in that area.
Can probably stop making threads about how we aren't losing any of our next 6 games. Providence pushes UCONN at UCONN, Georgetown pushes MU at MU. The BE will be a battle almost every night.
Quote from: Its DJOver on January 07, 2025, 09:48:43 PMWe're gonna see more zone until we prove we can consistently beat it. Gtown looked a lot more comfortable against our zone than we did against theirs.
Do we not have out of bounds plays? Don't even need something to get an easy layup or open three, just to get it in bounds. Seems like it's 4 people standing and then a lob up to Ben. Works most of the time but there's no reason we should be struggling in that area.
The height Georgetown had really bothered us with the zone. It was like playing Syracuse back in the day.
Quote from: Its DJOver on January 07, 2025, 09:48:43 PMWe're gonna see more zone until we prove we can consistently beat it. Gtown looked a lot more comfortable against our zone than we did against theirs.
Do we not have out of bounds plays? Don't even need something to get an easy layup or open three, just to get it in bounds. Seems like it's 4 people standing and then a lob up to Ben. Works most of the time but there's no reason we should be struggling in that area.
We'd think so, but the fact of the matter is most teams don't play zone. And if they aren't playing zone they aren't practicing it. And they usually aren't going to install something for just one game here and there. We'll see it, but against teams that already use it.
At halftime, I was totally confident that we'd come back. Glad it happened, and so quickly.
At 3-4 minutes remaining, I was stressed. Too much pressure on the starters to do it all, especially with Jop and Ben not doing much.
Phew.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on January 07, 2025, 09:50:37 PMThe height Georgetown had really bothered us with the zone. It was like playing Syracuse back in the day.
Goddamn syracuse.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 07, 2025, 09:40:21 PMI like our odds better if he plays.
He was 7 for 25 shooting with 9 Turnovers against us last year.
Well Cooley plays him 30min a game but I guess some on this board think they know more than Cooley.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 07, 2025, 09:49:01 PMCan probably stop making threads about how we aren't losing any of our next 6 games. Providence pushes UCONN at UCONN, Georgetown pushes MU at MU. The BE will be a battle almost every night.
I'm gonna make a new one before each game that rocky will have to merge titled "record over next six games" with the only options for the survey "6-0" or "projo."
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 07, 2025, 10:00:03 PMWell Cooley plays him 30min a game but I guess some on this board think they know more than Cooley.
He played 62 minutes against Marquette last year in his 7 for 25 9 TO efforts
How the hell did Georgetown lose by 21 to ND? They are really good.
Never a doubt!
Kam looked exhausted in the second half, and he was bothered by their D all night. Maybe his worst game this season, though he made a great pass to Stevie for a big bucket late.
Gold was solid defensively, but his offense was MIA all night and he was soft with the ball. After his missed layup, I might have used the F-word along with "DUNK IT" very loudly. Might have. Can't say for sure.
As I said in the Ross thread, I'm not overly concerned about him. I also said I'd like to see him shoot a few more 3s. Even a blind squirrel.
The T was knuckleheaded, but I loved the way Norman responded in the second half. Once again, when on the floor mostly with starters, he usually helps the team with tough D and an occasional hard drive. Same with Zaide, though not this time.
Owens has looked a little lost lately. Parham ... we need him, so here's hoping he's OK.
I'd love to know what Shaka really said in the LR at halftime because our guys' intensity and focus was off the charts in the second half. I hope he screamed at himself a little, too, because he was outcoached by Cooley in the first half.
Shaka did a good job stealing a few minutes for Stevie and Kam midway through the second half, because it was obvious that he'd need to go with the starters the entire last 10 minutes.
Those who always want the refs to "let 'em play" should have been very happy with this game. There were a couple soft calls, but overall the refs let the players maul each other.
And that was a tremendous call on Fielder's moving screen late in the game. Sure, it seems obvious when you look at the replay, but lots of refs will miss it - and lots and lots of refs will let it go in a game as physical as this one. But it directly affected the game, it had to be called, as it was. Good job.
Hard not to appreciate what Cooley has done at GT in a short time. Sorber is an effen stud - I'm already hoping he goes pro after this year! They play hard on D and have some shot-makers. They are loose with the ball, though, and while we had trouble taking advantage of it much of the game it did hurt them in the end.
Very good teams have games like this sometimes. Look at UConn-Providence - we had just beaten Prov by 100 points, but they took UConn down to the wire in Storrs. I think I heard the CBS Sports guy say that Tennessee's loss tonight was the most lopsided by a #1 team in like 60 years. Georgia, a team we beat on a neutral court for a nice win, hammered Kentucky.
This game gave me heartburn at times, but Marquette found a way to win it on a night when several of our players, including our All-American, didn't have it.
We Are Marquette!
Quote from: wadesworld on January 07, 2025, 09:49:01 PMCan probably stop making threads about how we aren't losing any of our next 6 games. Providence pushes UCONN at UCONN, Georgetown pushes MU at MU. The BE will be a battle almost every night.
Still not gonna lose until @SJU though.
Ben needs to be getting hyped up before every game to this:
Quote from: BM1090 on January 07, 2025, 10:04:39 PMStill not gonna lose until @SJU though.
I don't see a loss until 2026.
100%, 82
We gave up three points in the last 3:04 of the game.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 07, 2025, 10:02:14 PMHe played 62 minutes against Marquette last year in his 7 for 25 9 TO efforts
Well we can both agree it would be awesome if he has another clunker in DC against us.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 07, 2025, 09:15:33 PMDefinitely one we could've given away the way it was going. Great second half effort. Georgetown is tough. Even when we got momentum they would not go away.
Kudos to GT. When we went up 51-48 I thought we were going to steamroll them from there on out. They hung tough and then some. Good for the big east for them to be relevant again.
I get that teams have bad games and that good teams find a way to win even when not playing well.
But, I think there is some cause for concern that MU has been winning ugly in almost every conference game (except PC) and the depth hasn't developed the way it must to get through the long season.
There's no question that this team is tough and always fights hard, but I'm not convinced that that would be enough against the very best teams in the country. When I see games like Florida-Kentucky I wonder if MU would be able to keep up teams like that. I question whether those teams would be forced to grind out wins at home against the likes of Butler, Creighton, and Georgetown.
Quote from: wisblue on January 07, 2025, 10:28:29 PMI get that teams have bad games and that good teams find a way to win even when not playing well.
But, I think there is some cause for concern that MU has been winning ugly in almost every conference game (except PC) and the depth hasn't developed the way it must to get through the long season.
There's no question that this team is tough and always fights hard, but I'm not convinced that that would be enough against the very best teams in the country. When I see games like Florida-Kentucky I wonder if MU would be able to keep up teams like that. I question whether those teams would be forced to grind out wins at home against the likes of Butler, Creighton, and Georgetown.
The Kentucky team that just lost to the Georgia team Marquette beat?
I understand your concerns, and I don't think Marquette is a super-team by any measure. But I'm very comfortable where we stand on Jan. 7.
Some very ugly moments in this game but I feel better about this team than most in here after this win.
1. We are a top 10 team. We are going to get everyone's best shot.
2. Kam was bottled up most of the game but Chase came up huge tonight. I want to see him be this aggressive offensively a lot more.
3. Tre has improved. I liked the way he played. I watched him shooting in warmups and he should be a better shooter. Him and Zaide are getting close to being consistent contributors.
4. I don't know if any team has 2 better defensive disruptors at the guard positions than us with Chase and Stevie
5. Lastly, for as bad as Ben and Jop can look on the offensive end they do bring it defensively
We will lose a few games this year but we are a top 10 team and a title contender.
Kam and Stewie - having dreams they make big big names for themselves this spring !
Quote from: MU82 on January 07, 2025, 10:35:40 PMI understand your concerns, and I don't think Marquette is a super-team by any measure. But I'm very comfortable where we stand on Jan. 7.
This!
82 you are on a roll!
Kam isn't going to stay bottled up forever. Being able to win while the others figure it out is very very positive
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2025, 09:11:31 PMPortugal, The Man version. Not Mad Magazine version.
1. Bad halves happen.
2. Good halves happen. Making shots and getting stops helps.
3. Chase was a man tonight. One more thread that can be 'accidentally' deleted.
4. The team is tough minded and resilient. So is the coach.
5. Turnovers, not usually a problem, were tonight. Out of character.
6. Tre had a game. Not quote SOTG worthy. Too bad. That would have been an epic prediction to get right. Only productive sub in the second half.
7. Jean Felix night for the whole Georgetown team. Crazy.
8. I don't gamble. Games like this reinforce that decision.
9. I trust there were no hot takes in the game chat. I will read it tomorrow.
10. W. Get Thievie healthy and develop the rest of the bench behind Tre.
11. Did they find anything on Oak Island?
Ty for the synopsis Tower.
Home record under Shaka is special - down 1 with 243 left and opponents ball and you win by 8 - MU RAH
The beauty of showing the youngsters the effort it takes to shut the door and then actually closing it !
I saw this one from the eyes of a 4 year old.
Another fun game to be at inside FiServ, this time with my wife and 4 yo son.
The young lad didn't deserve the carnage he saw in the first half...
However, he learned a hard lesson in sticktuitiveness and resilience. I had to answer a lot of "why babas (dad in Greek)" but I think he got his answer in the end.
On the way out he said "they've been pretty quiet since the Eagle started doing good" as he pointed to the obnoxious Georgetown fans behind us, they kept screaming "let's goooo" for every basket made in the 1H, and it was worth its weight in gold.
Anyhow, my main takeaway from tonight is that, in the end it was substantially closer than we hoped. Brutal 1H, we all kinda knew a comeback was coming and it only took 4/5mins to get it back squared away in the 2H, but GTown really had a chance tonight and led super late (under 3?) and things got dicey.
So, resilience was the key and one other thing that has shaped this team all season...
DEFENSE.
It travels, even to its home court walking distance from campus. As I've said all year, it's much easier to win when you hold teams to the 60s and low 70s, and tonight was living proof.
Aside from that- let's get Kameron right, very soon please. Everyone is allowed a slippery stretch but it's more so in when he decides to attack than how he does- he's not doing stupid stuff or forcing or throwing it away, he's just picking his spots, angles, shot attempts a bit more errantly than before.
He needs to find his comfort again, and as 82 pointed out that pass to Stevie late tonight, when everyone in the building including himself likely expected him to shoot, was a good start.
Chase- well done young man. You made us all happy tonight and we are all happy for you.
Keep that cool, calm, collected but killer on D and aggressive on O Mr Ross alive.
Benny- just grab the ball dude, and be hungry and aggressive. Be the guy that was destroying shots at the rim defensively on the offensive end. You don't have to do much, just get nasty in there.
It's an ode to Shaka that Benny and Jop are on the court because of their defense as opposed to their offense...
Love that stuff about your son, DrV. You're already helping him build great MU hoops memories. Over the years, you'll have so many to share. Fantastic!
Was delighted with the hard fought win. Mr.Cooley is an Excellent Coach, so is Shaka . Nice to see us on the positive end of these kinds of Big East battles especially against teams with this kind of length.
Shaka has taught this team how to fight hard every play for 40 minutes. That is what it takes at this level to dominate.
Week of rest and hopefully MU faithful show up in mass at Wintrust.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 07, 2025, 09:22:12 PMGreat win. Games against Cooley won't be easy. He's really establishing a culture there. I think Providence fans are just starting to realize that they got the short end of the stick on that trade.
Guess Cooley didn't get the thesis memo that you cannot build a team and culture through the portal.
Quote from: Tha Hound on January 07, 2025, 09:34:32 PMChase and Stevie stepped up big when we needed them.
Ben Gold just needs to forget all about tonight. He couldn't even catch the ball or make simple passes. Hope he shakes that one off soon.
This team just figures out ways to win. Very impressive. But we should probably work on breaking down a zone D..
GoooolllldddBrick
Quote from: mreezybreezy on January 07, 2025, 09:19:50 PM12/12 FTs in the final 4 minutes
23-27 for the game. Really good offense. Who realized that Joplin was 90% from the line?
Quote from: warriorfred on January 07, 2025, 09:21:30 PMGeorgetown may be a legitimate tournament team. I need to see more evidence, but I will pencil them in.
Winning on the road at a top ten team would have helped that cause immensely. They don't really have any good wins yet, so they probably need to get us, UConn, or SJ a couple times.
Shaka, post game. Sometimes the game is too big for the young guys. It was for Kam, too. Sang Ben's praises for doing everything else on a bad shooting night.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 08, 2025, 03:37:36 AMGuess Cooley didn't get the thesis memo that you cannot build a team and culture through the portal.
Who's claimed that?
Quote from: The Sultan on January 08, 2025, 07:54:38 AMWho's claimed that?
Willie doesn't think Shaka is very good at his job
Quote from: The Sultan on January 08, 2025, 07:54:38 AMWho's claimed that?
To be somewhat fair Shaka has claimed that his POV is that transfers in should be avoided unless they can't be. Shaka has not said that others are doing something wrong or can't be successful.
I kinda like that we have a POV (pay to retain) and are attempting to build a culture and system. Will it work? Idk but so far can't argue with it.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 08, 2025, 08:28:49 AMShaka has claimed that his POV is that transfers in should be avoided unless they can't be.
I don't believe he has claimed that.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 08, 2025, 08:31:53 AMI don't believe he has claimed that.
I am taking liberty but going off his quote where he was asked to respond to words...to "transfer portal" he said 'avoid it'
Ah I missed that.
Right, but Shaka has never claimed that "you cannot build a team and culture through the portal." Neither has any Scooper to my knowledge.
I thought Shaka said he would have no problems taking a transfer if they were the right fit.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 08, 2025, 09:06:37 AMI thought Shaka said he would have no problems taking a transfer if they were the right fit.
Correct.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 08, 2025, 08:48:52 AMMany here subscribe to that creed
Then you should have no problem providing examples because I don't recall this.
Quote from: milwaukee expat on January 07, 2025, 09:27:26 PMShaka playd alot of subs in the first half and Stevie's +/_ must be huge. When he sat and we had the frosh in we got creamed. If Shaka just played his best players maximum minutes we would be ken pom faves in offense and defense. But he plays the whole team as part of his general philosophy on retention and development and that is going to mean 2 seeds for a decade. Love this team and program.
Starters were great, most of the bench, not so much.
https://x.com/jgtrends/status/1876834523847004527?s=46&t=y09G3XF0pbaZZc_-K-dYSw
Quote from: tower912 on January 08, 2025, 07:30:22 AMShaka, post game. Sometimes the game is too big for the young guys. It was for Kam, too. Sang Ben's praises for doing everything else on a bad shooting night.
This is what will keep us playing. Having a tough shooting night, get dirty, step up the often unnoticed stuff, get in a guys chest, scream a la Jop to get the buys pumped up. Love the statement from Shaka
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 08, 2025, 08:11:40 AMWillie doesn't think Shaka is very good at his job
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 08, 2025, 08:11:40 AMWillie doesn't think Shaka is very good at his job
You should have stopped writing after the first three words.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 08, 2025, 08:34:16 AMI am taking liberty but going off his quote where he was asked to respond to words...to "transfer portal" he said 'avoid it'
I'm pretty sure he said he avoids it because it insinuated he doesn't believe in the staffs ability to develop the recruited guys and the players ability to grow. He then went on to say if he were to use it it wouldn't be a player looking for a "bag" and they'd have to be someone who they had a great relationship with during recruiting that came from a similar culture program filling a need due to our own injury or transfer issues.
Yes, quotes without context can be misleading (in both directions).
The fact that Shaka has pursued transfers both of the last two off-season's should end the "he won't/thinks he's above" taking a transfer. It won't but it should.
The fact that he hasn't landed any of the transfer he's pursued suggest he's either not casting as wide of a net as other programs, or he's making fewer promises to potential transfers than other programs. Neither of which are necessarily a bad thing. That also doesn't mean that those coaches that do are doing it wrong, or are morally/ethically/spiritually/emotionally/gastronomically bad people.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 08, 2025, 08:34:16 AMI am taking liberty but going off his quote where he was asked to respond to words...to "transfer portal" he said 'avoid it'
I think he was making it clear that recruiting and developing the recruits is his primary strategy. He also very wisely does not rule out any possibility of transfers and outlines the parameters in other comments.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 08, 2025, 10:12:23 AMI think he was making it clear that recruiting and developing the recruits is his primary strategy. He also very wisely does not rule out any possibility of transfers and outlines the parameters in other comments.
I didnt say otherwise. My statement was in response to Titan as to why I felt he 'avoids it unless necessary'
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 08, 2025, 10:14:32 AMI didnt say otherwise. My statement was in response to Titan as to why I felt he 'avoids it unless necessary'
Fair enough.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 08, 2025, 09:44:04 AMYou should have stopped writing after the first three words.
How would you know. You can't read
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 08, 2025, 09:34:31 AMStarters were great, most of the bench, not so much.
https://x.com/jgtrends/status/1876834523847004527?s=46&t=y09G3XF0pbaZZc_-K-dYSw
I personally like on/off splits, but I've also heard arguments against their usefulness. Maybe what'd I'd like to see even more is a comparison of 5-man rotations we've seen thus far.
Obviously that would take a lot more effort to compile, but is that something you've done before? A breakdown would be awesome if there's enough data.
Quote from: warriorfred on January 07, 2025, 09:21:30 PMGeorgetown may be a legitimate tournament team. I need to see more evidence, but I will pencil them in.
I'd check out the non conference performance and SOS before I'd pencil them in anywhere..........committee frowns on teams that just buy wins before conference play.
https://kenpom.com/index.php?s=RankNCSOS
A sign of Gtown hoops starting to care again. Their MU game chat is 27 pages deep
https://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/thread/34113/georgetown-marquette-1-2025-discussion
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 07, 2025, 10:00:43 PMI'm gonna make a new one before each game that rocky will have to merge titled "record over next six games" with the only options for the survey "6-0" or "projo."
merge = delete. I make the easy moderator button choices.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 08, 2025, 08:54:23 PMmerge = delete. I make the easy moderator button choices.
I wish it worked that way trying to get on the highway.
Quote from: Carl on January 08, 2025, 07:18:18 PMA sign of Gtown hoops starting to care again. Their MU game chat is 27 pages deep
https://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/thread/34113/georgetown-marquette-1-2025-discussion
Ha!! The prevailing thought through much of the 27 pages is they got screwed by the refs.
Quote from: tower912 on January 08, 2025, 05:46:23 AMWho realized that Joplin was 90% from the line?
I did, but only thanks to Wags.
Many weeks ago, I made a list of MU players who I most wanted to see at the line in the clutch. Joplin, who was a poor FT shooter
last season, was low on my list. But Wags responded that Joplin was doing a lot better this season ... and I looked it up ... and he was right. And since then, I've been tracking it. He's been great!
Quote from: MU82 on January 08, 2025, 09:46:07 PMI did, but only thanks to Wags.
Many weeks ago, I made a list of MU players who I most wanted to see at the line in the clutch. Joplin, who was a poor FT shooter
last season, was low on my list. But Wags responded that Joplin was doing a lot better this season ... and I looked it up ... and he was right. And since then, I've been tracking it. He's been great!
If I got fouled during a 3PA in an NCAAT game but then proceeded to miss all three FTs, I'd work on my free throw shooting too.
I'm very glad he's improved from the charity stripe.
Quote from: K1 Lover on January 08, 2025, 10:30:22 PMIf I got fouled during a 3PA in an NCAAT game but then proceeded to miss all three FTs, I'd work on my free throw shooting too.
I'm very glad he's improved from the charity stripe.
At first I chuckled, but then I said wait a minute!
That's gonna be the all-time leader in wins in Marquette history according to Brews astute research.
JopWagon, or IronJop, is just trying to get everything off that chicken bone in his final season...
Thing is, he's doing all the stuff we probably would've expected the least- rebounding and playing great defense, hustling and working harder than most probably expected- but the outside shot hasn't fallen as it should/will.
Good news on that front is that
1- DePaul is coming up, 2x in the next 10
2- All Marquettes reach equilibrium
I've got a feeling that Mr Joplin will be a very large reason why Marquette makes the Final 4 this year
Quote from: DoctorV on January 08, 2025, 10:50:49 PMThat's gonna be the all-time leader in wins in Marquette history according to Brews astute research.
Wouldn't he tie Kam and Stevie? Or were they out for games I'm forgetting.
Also I think Otule's the actual leader with 7yrs worth of wins!
The other 4 starters are shooting between 75 and 80% from the line. The team is shooting 76% for the season. It would be nice to get there more often.
Quote from: The Thing on January 08, 2025, 09:29:00 PMHa!! The prevailing thought through much of the 27 pages is they got screwed by the refs.
They go back and forth from patting themselves on the back for hanging with the #7 team in the country and seemingly agreeing that we are overrated and not a serious contender. With no self awareness about how those 2 thoughts contradict.
Quote from: Carl on January 09, 2025, 12:04:45 PMThey go back and forth from patting themselves on the back for hanging with the #7 team in the country and seemingly agreeing that we are overrated and not a serious contender. With no self awareness about how those 2 thoughts contradict.
Sound scoopish.
Quote from: tower912 on January 09, 2025, 06:00:08 AMThe other 4 starters are shooting between 75 and 80% from the line. The team is shooting 76% for the season. It would be nice to get there more often.
There was a point early in the second half where every GU player on the floor had 2 fouls. MU immediately attacked and hung a third on someone.....forcing Cooley to put him on the bench.
Quote from: tower912 on January 09, 2025, 06:00:08 AMThe other 4 starters are shooting between 75 and 80% from the line. The team is shooting 76% for the season. It would be nice to get there more often.
They would, if the refs called all fouls that we Scoopers see, and they miss.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 08, 2025, 11:02:23 PMWouldn't he tie Kam and Stevie? Or were they out for games I'm forgetting.
Also I think Otule's the actual leader with 7yrs worth of wins!
I think it was Kam has missed 4 games and Stevie 3.
David has missed an astounding 0
Quote from: Carl on January 08, 2025, 07:18:18 PMA sign of Gtown hoops starting to care again. Their MU game chat is 27 pages deep
https://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/thread/34113/georgetown-marquette-1-2025-discussion
Just a heads-up I believe our re-match is on Peacock.
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2025, 09:11:31 PMPortugal, The Man version. Not Mad Magazine version.
1. Bad halves happen.
2. Good halves happen. Making shots and getting stops helps.
3. Chase was a man tonight. One more thread that can be 'accidentally' deleted.
4. The team is tough minded and resilient. So is the coach.
5. Turnovers, not usually a problem, were tonight. Out of character.
6. Tre had a game. Not quote SOTG worthy. Too bad. That would have been an epic prediction to get right. Only productive sub in the second half.
7. Jean Felix night for the whole Georgetown team. Crazy.
8. I don't gamble. Games like this reinforce that decision.
9. I trust there were no hot takes in the game chat. I will read it tomorrow.
10. W. Get Thievie healthy and develop the rest of the bench behind Tre.
11. Did they find anything on Oak Island?
I think I had the only chase thread
Why the hell would this game cause me to delete asking about getting chase going........and then him getting going lol
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 07, 2025, 09:27:55 PMAmazing that Cooley did that without Epps. Very concerned about the game in DC assuming he plays.
That zone D of theirs...they clobber every offensive rebounder. Gold on at least 3 occassions got smacked in face or head trying to get off rebound.
Welcome to the Big East I guess.
I am far from convinced Gtown isn't a better team without a gunner like Epps