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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 94Warrior on January 02, 2025, 03:31:56 PM

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Question: Will MU be 19-2, 10-0, heading into National Marquette Day and a top 5 showdown against UCONN?   Road Games between now and then are Butler, Seton Hall and Depaul.  Home games are Creighton, Gtown, Xavier and Nova.  What will our record be on NMD?
Option 1: 19-2, 10-0.  We will be favored in every game.  Take Care of Business.
Option 2: 18-3, 9-1.  Drop 1 at home, or against 1 of the 3 worst on the road.
Option 3: 17-4, 8-2.  Somewhat shaky.
Option 4: 16-5, 7-3.  The wheels have fallen off.
Option 5: Hiroshima.  Fire Shaka!
Title: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: 94Warrior on January 02, 2025, 03:31:56 PM
Looking ahead is bad luck.  But, I'm not on the team and neither are you, so speculate away!!!
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: CountryRoads on January 02, 2025, 05:30:36 PM
19-2: C, did what we were supposed to
18-3: F
17-4: F
16-5: F

In all honestly, a good opportunity for us to be in great position heading into the home stretch. Praying for health and growth (on the court and with team chemistry) this month above all else. The season will be defined in March anyway.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 02, 2025, 05:39:34 PM
At Butler concerns me the way they kill the clock and launch threes.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: tower912 on January 02, 2025, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 02, 2025, 05:39:34 PMAt Butler concerns me the way they kill the clock and launch threes.

And finish strong against good teams.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 02, 2025, 06:11:22 PM
I'll say (18-3, 9-1)

Don't know which it will be, but College Hoops will College Hoops sometimes. Such is life.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: We R Final Four on January 02, 2025, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 02, 2025, 05:50:07 PMAnd finish strong against good teams.
Man that was brutal.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: wadesworld on January 02, 2025, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 02, 2025, 06:11:22 PMI'll say (18-3, 9-1)

Don't know which it will be, but College Hoops will College Hoops sometimes. Such is life.

Some of these posts read like an upbeat Herman Cain posts.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: tower912 on January 02, 2025, 07:04:23 PM
Cool.  The more, the merrier.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 02, 2025, 07:05:09 PM
Don't get greedy, 94.

But I have to admit, I was going through the schedule and had similar thoughts.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 02, 2025, 07:51:30 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 02, 2025, 07:03:07 PMSome of these posts read like an excellent upbeat Herman Cain post.

FIFY
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: Herman Cain on January 02, 2025, 10:15:51 PM
I am all in for 19-2.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: 94Warrior on January 02, 2025, 10:21:05 PM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 02, 2025, 07:05:09 PMDon't get greedy, 94.

But I have to admit, I was going through the schedule and had similar thoughts.

I know, it's crazy to think I'd consider 8-2 in the Big East to be somewhat shaky.  But, I believe in this team. 

I just don't see us losing more than 1 home game this season.  And, UCONN and maybe STJ are the only ones capable of beating us on our court.

We'll probably drop a couple road games, but I don't see losses to Butler, Seton Hall or Depaul this season. 

With the way the schedule falls, I had to go 19-2,10-0.  With that will come a top 3 ranking.  And knowing UCONN, they will be right there with us.

Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 03, 2025, 02:39:56 AM
QuoteWill MU be 19-2, 10-0, heading into National Marquette Day and a top 5 showdown against UCONN?   Road Games between now and then are Butler, Seton Hall and Depaul.  Home games are Creighton, Gtown, Xavier and Nova.  What will our record be on NMD?

Tl;dr
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: UWW2MU on January 03, 2025, 09:18:01 AM
Statistics, probability, and just the fact that things unforeseen can just go wrong sometimes force me to say we drop 1 along the way to NMD.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: GB Warrior on January 03, 2025, 09:42:33 AM
How is Uconn getting to top 5 between now and then?
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:22:50 AM
WTF? Too bad Poto didn't/doesn't allow me to bet on Marquette.

https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1852728633648931177?t=ohEuPSSIkbzYqXrLoprklw&s=19
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 03, 2025, 11:25:59 AM
Hopefully am wrong but see tonight's game as a tough game for Marquette. In December Creighton has beaten Kansas, Villanova and Saint John's with a close loss on the road against Alabama.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 03, 2025, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:22:50 AMWTF? Too bad Poto didn't/doesn't allow me to bet on Marquette.

https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1852728633648931177?t=ohEuPSSIkbzYqXrLoprklw&s=19

Rothstein:once a clown always a clown.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: wadesworld on January 03, 2025, 11:30:52 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:22:50 AMWTF? Too bad Poto didn't/doesn't allow me to bet on Marquette.

https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1852728633648931177?t=ohEuPSSIkbzYqXrLoprklw&s=19

Yes.  It would be great if we could all get the preseason odds 2 months into the season.  Thanks for getting upset about Jon Rothstein's Tweet from November 2, 2024.

This account really is HermanCain's second account, isn't it?
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 03, 2025, 11:33:15 AM
Hopefully am wrong but see tonight's game as a tough game for Marquette. In December Creighton has beaten Kansas, Villanova and Saint John's with a close loss on the road against Alabama. Feel Marquette is going 6-1 or 5-2 in January
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Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 03, 2025, 11:36:40 AM
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 03, 2025, 11:33:15 AMHopefully am wrong but see tonight's game as a tough game for Marquette. In December Creighton has beaten Kansas, Villanova and Saint John's with a close loss on the road against Alabama. Feel Marquette is going 6-1 or 5-2 in January



Hope you're wrong so much you had to post it twice?

Also, look where the 3 wins were played. Very important.

Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2025, 11:30:52 AMYes.  It would be great if we could all get the preseason odds 2 months into the season.  Thanks for getting upset about Jon Rothstein's Tweet from November 2, 2024.

This account really is HermanCain's second account, isn't it?

It is up to +150.

I'm well aware of that. Unfortunately Poto doesn't allow Marquette betting or getting those +750 in Nov. would've been a no brainer. Didn't realize it was ever that low.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: wadesworld on January 03, 2025, 11:44:25 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:39:11 AMIt is up to +150.

I'm well aware of that. Unfortunately Poto doesn't allow Marquette betting or getting those +750 in Nov. would've been a no brainer. Didn't realize it was ever that low.

So you posted a 2 month old Tweet showing MU's preseason BE title odds at +750 in a thread about MU's W/L record in the month of February?  Why?
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: Its DJOver on January 03, 2025, 11:45:14 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38808287/men-final-four-picks-other-national-predictions-2023-24

Breaking news, not a single expert picked us to make the FF last year. WTF.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:46:22 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2025, 11:44:25 AMSo you posted a 2 month old Tweet showing MU's preseason BE title odds at +750 in a thread about MU's W/L record in the month of February?  Why?

Because we are talking about them potentially starting 10-0 before they face UConn and their odds at one point were +750 to win the league.

Are you that upset?
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: wadesworld on January 03, 2025, 11:48:19 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:46:22 AMBecause we are talking about them potentially starting 10-0 before they face UConn and their odds at one point were +750 to win the league.

Are you that upset?

Not as upset as you are about not being able to get preseason odds on a season we're 2 months into.  But yes, that would be awesome if Poto worked that way.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:50:03 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2025, 11:48:19 AMNot as upset as you are about not being able to get preseason odds on a season we're 2 months into.  But yes, that would be awesome if Poto worked that way.

I'm not mad I can't get +750 right now.

Rothstein posted the updated odds quoting that Tweet from November. I'm just shocked the odds were that low to begin with.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: wadesworld on January 03, 2025, 11:51:33 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:50:03 AMI'm not mad I can't get +750 right now.

Rothstein posted the updated odds quoting that Tweet from November. I'm just shocked the odds were that low to begin with.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:22:50 AMWTF? Too bad Poto didn't/doesn't allow me to bet on Marquette.

Can confirm, not mad.

I'll let you twist your way around how preseason BE title odds have anything to do with January record.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 03, 2025, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2025, 11:51:33 AMCan confirm, not mad.

I'll let you twist your way around how preseason BE title odds have anything to do with January record.

You're misunderstanding.

Poto doesn't allow you to bet on Marquette. If they did I likely would have been aware of the odds back in November. I posted it here because we are talking about being 10-0 and that just shows how low the odds really potentially were.

If that really bothers you that much, I'm sorry wades. Have a good day and go MU.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: 94Warrior on January 03, 2025, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 03, 2025, 09:42:33 AMHow is Uconn getting to top 5 between now and then?

By winning.  I guarantee if they are 18-3 on Feb 1st, they are Top 5. 

I will also guarantee if we get to 19-2, we are Top 4.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: HowardsWorld on January 03, 2025, 02:57:52 PM
On a side note, according to bart torvik Marquette is only a dog in 2 games the remainder of the season. @Uconn by +3 and @ St Johns by 1. Every other game they are favored.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: wisblue on January 03, 2025, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: UWW2MU on January 03, 2025, 09:18:01 AMStatistics, probability, and just the fact that things unforeseen can just go wrong sometimes force me to say we drop 1 along the way to NMD.

That's the problem with looking at a big block of games. All it takes is MU having one of those 4 for 30 3 point shootimg nights, an opponent getting really hot, some foul trouble or an injury to a key player and a game can turn ugly. The Butler game last year was one example of this, and this year's Butler game started out the same way.

Needless to say, because MU figures to be a solid favorite in each of these games, a loss in any one of them would be pretty disappointing. But it would hardly be an unfathomable upset.

Creighton can be dangerous if they have one of those hot shooting games.Harassing and containing Ashworth should be a focus because with Isaacs out the Jays don't have as many weapons as they have had in some other recent years.
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 03, 2025, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 03, 2025, 11:33:15 AMHopefully am wrong but see tonight's game as a tough game for Marquette. In December Creighton has beaten Kansas, Villanova and Saint John's with a close loss on the road against Alabama. Feel Marquette is going 6-1 or 5-2 in January



The key to that KU game was Pop Issacs, who is out for the season. And beating Villanova isn't a reason to be concerned about an opponent
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: Newsdreams on January 03, 2025, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 03, 2025, 06:50:01 PMThe key to that KU game was Pop Issacs, who is out for the season. And beating Villanova isn't a reason to be concerned about an opponent
I'm more concerned about Radford & next year
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 04, 2025, 11:17:21 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 03, 2025, 11:36:40 AMHope you're wrong so much you had to post it twice?

Also, look where the 3 wins were played. Very important.



Accidentally do a quote and when I try to fix it accidentally posted 2 times
Title: Re: W-L record on Feb 1???
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 04, 2025, 11:20:44 PM
Agree with Marquette's Win over Creighton am going 6-1
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