Next man up. Hoping to have 8 players available Saturday. Two of my favorite teams competing to see who can be most banged up.
Anyway....
Who starts if Chase can't go? Obviously, either DO or Royce. I lean toward Royce. Mainly due to DO's versatility. You can sub DO in for any starter, assuming Kam, Stevie, Jop, Royce, Ben.
If MU is only dressing 8, everyone is going to get all of the minutes they can handle.
Why is Amadou not playing? Have I missed something?
Al is redshirting.
It depends on how they're gonna play it defensively. If they're still switching everything, then I think Damarius probably should start.
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 05, 2024, 06:50:27 AMAl is redshirting.
It depends on how they're gonna play it defensively. If they're still switching everything, then I think Damarius probably should start.
Then it should be reflected in the scholarship table.
See, this is peak Scoop. You have a very reasonable question designed to have good discussion, and the very first response is completely off topic, followed by complaining about the off topic player. I love it.
As to the OP, I would agree that in a vacuum I would probably start Royce. It's all about matchups though and IDK enough about Madison to make a concrete prediction, so I'll just go get my morning Arby's.
Quote from: Its DJOver on December 05, 2024, 07:14:18 AMSee, this is peak Scoop. You have a very reasonable question designed to have good discussion, and the very first response is completely off topic, followed by complaining about the off topic player. I love it.
As to the OP, I would agree that in a vacuum I would probably start Royce. It's all about matchups though and IDK enough about Madison to make a concrete prediction, so I'll just go get my morning Arby's.
Well, to be fair, the mods got their fat paychecks and quit updating the scholarship table and how do you expect fans that follow the team to know Al was redshirting when that wasn't updated?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 05, 2024, 07:17:53 AMWell, to be fair, the mods got their fat paychecks and quit updating the scholarship table and how do you expect fans that follow the team to know Al was redshirting when that wasn't updated?
They thought the new server updated it automatically.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on December 05, 2024, 07:23:07 AMThey thought the new server updated it automatically.
So lazy
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2024, 06:34:58 AMNext man up. Hoping to have 8 players available Saturday. Two of my favorite teams competing to see who can be most banged up.
Anyway....
Who starts if Chase can't go? Obviously, either DO or Royce. I lean toward Royce. Mainly due to DO's versatility. You can sub DO in for any starter, assuming Kam, Stevie, Jop, Royce, Ben.
If MU is only dressing 8, everyone is going to get all of the minutes they can handle.
Who are the Badgers missing?
Quote from: wisblue on December 05, 2024, 07:30:31 AMWho are the Badgers missing?
No idea. Help us all out and tell us.
Frank Kaminsky and Chucky Hepburn
Owens started the second half last night so probably him
Quote from: swoopem on December 05, 2024, 07:44:10 AMOwens started the second half last night so probably him
Yup. But he had played well in the first half. Parham went off in the second. To me, it was a push. Just my opinion, start Parham, have DO to plug in anywhere and everywhere.
Tower
I probably agree with you on Parham. That said, Owens is going to continue to get more and more minutes, and it does not matter if he starts or not.
Agreed. However, when Chase and Zaide are healthy, those minutes will still be tempered by how he defends.
But, man, it was fun to watch him and Royce attack on offense.
Quote from: DoctorV on December 05, 2024, 07:38:46 AMFrank Kaminsky and Chucky Hepburn
I am very, very happy that Chucky is no longer at UW.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2024, 07:31:54 AMNo idea. Help us all out and tell us.
You said the teams were competing to see who is most banged up.
In what way are the Badgers banged up?
I would start Owens. Norman backs up the 3 guards, Royce backs up the 2 forwards. Hamilton plays very limited minutes.
Very tight rotation. Tre plays about 10-12 minutes, Caedin probably 5 or less. Top 6 play the rest.
Jop, Royce, and Gold will have to play together at times. Everyone is going to need to bring their A-game.
Quote from: wisblue on December 05, 2024, 08:12:42 AMYou said the teams were competing to see who is most banged up.
In what way are the Badgers banged up?
Tower was talking about the Lions.
Quote from: wisblue on December 05, 2024, 08:12:42 AMYou said the teams were competing to see who is most banged up.
In what way are the Badgers banged up?
Two of Towers favorite teams. The Badgers are not one of Towers favorite teams.
Quote from: wisblue on December 05, 2024, 08:12:42 AMYou said the teams were competing to see who is most banged up.
In what way are the Badgers banged up?
I was referring to the Lions and MU.
Quote from: wisblue on December 05, 2024, 08:12:42 AMYou said the teams were competing to see who is most banged up.
In what way are the Badgers banged up?
Pretty sure he meant da Lions, aina?
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 05, 2024, 08:20:47 AMTwo of Towers favorite teams. The Badgers are not one of Towers favorite teams.
Sorry I don't follow everyone's personal preferences.
On the original question I would expect Owens to start because it would be the closest to the normal starting lineup. I would also expect Norman to sub in early, as Shaka seems to like to get everyone a taste of the game early. With only 8 players that won't be hard.
It probably doesn't make much difference anyway because total minutes for the game are probably going to be dictated by fouls and fatigue.
Losing Lowrey and Ross is going to make it a lot easier for the Badgers guards to drive to the basket where they won't meet the kind of resistance they did against Michigan.
Is Chase out? Or are we just assuming?
Quote from: BM1090 on December 05, 2024, 09:42:13 AMIs Chase out? Or are we just assuming?
Nothing official yet.
We are speculating in case he is.
Yeah I didn't read the full post, jumped the gun. Apologies.
I'm assuming if he is out, they won't release the information until pre-game warmups.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2024, 09:44:01 AMWe are speculating in case he is.
Of
course. Scoopers who do not speculate should be banned.
I speculate that his availability-or lack thereof- will probably be kept under wraps until game time.
Quote from: wisblue on December 05, 2024, 09:16:51 AMSorry I don't follow everyone's personal preferences.
No one expects you to. But Tower didn't say anything about the Badgers in his post. You just assumed Badgers, presumably because Tower mentioned the upcoming Badger game. Which is fine, everyone makes reading comprehension mistakes sometimes
De nada. Resolved.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 05, 2024, 10:48:01 AMNo one expects you to. But Tower didn't say anything about the Badgers in his post. You just assumed Badgers, presumably because Tower mentioned the upcoming Badger game. Which is fine, everyone makes reading comprehension mistakes sometimes
Actually, it was a writing mistake. Rather than assuming that readers would know that he was referring to the Detroit Lions on a board about Marquette basketball (and ine sentence immediately following the reference to Saturday's game) he could have said "Two of my favorite teams (MU and the Lions) are competing...." or something to that effect.
But it's OK. Everyone makes writing mistakes sometimes.
Quote from: wisblue on December 05, 2024, 11:57:46 AMActually, it was a writing mistake. Rather than assuming that readers would know that he was referring to the Detroit Lions on a board about Marquette basketball, he could have said "Two of my favorite teams (MU and the Lions)...." or something to that effect.
But it's OK. Everyone makes writing mistakes sometimes.
Tower is not obliged to write his posts thinking that no one understands that he is a Lions' fan, because it is widely known he is a Lions fan. If you are going to participate in a community, the burden for understanding the community falls upon you.
Let it go.
Gotta admit, did not have this on my Scoop Bingo card today.
Personally, I'd go Owens but he or Royce are fine. I care more about who is getting minutes over who starts. And as someone pointed out, minutes often depend on how the game is playing out.
Quote from: Its DJOver on December 05, 2024, 12:12:12 PMGotta admit, did not have this on my Scoop Bingo card today.
Agreed.
A polite reply to Wisblue clarifying what Tower meant stops this whole thing in its tracks. Instead it becomes a circular argument of stupidly. People can be such arrogant a-holes on this board trying to be right on the minutiae of what was said, how it wasn't perfectly said or how things are not perfectly interpreted.
Everyone knows what Wisblue meant. Everyone knows what most posters mean. But they feel some obligation to nit pick things to death. The worst part is the people who position themselves as above the fray are some of the worst offenders.
Still, great board and love all your opinions on basketball! Go MU!
If Lowery is ready he should start. If he's not, then Norman. With the other starters, defense is far more important than offense for the Ross position. Let the frosh watch a few minutes and understand the speed of the game and the intensity of the matchups before they get in.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 05, 2024, 01:18:13 PMA polite reply to Wisblue clarifying what Tower meant stops this whole thing in its tracks.
Literally FOUR people "politely replied" to Wisblue...including tower. Yet it wasn't "stopped in its tracks."
You've been here too long to think that's going to happen.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on December 05, 2024, 08:13:38 AMTower was talking about the Lions.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 05, 2024, 08:20:47 AMTwo of Towers favorite teams. The Badgers are not one of Towers favorite teams.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2024, 08:23:48 AMI was referring to the Lions and MU.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 05, 2024, 08:37:31 AMPretty sure he meant da Lions, aina?
Honestly, this all sounds like a big HIPPA violation to me.
Per Steele, Chase is listed as "doubtful."
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on December 05, 2024, 07:23:07 AMThey thought the new server updated it automatically.
AI should handle it.......
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 05, 2024, 01:55:09 PMPer Steele, Chase is listed as "doubtful."
Would be a massive break for UW if he doesn't play. Maybe Tre can be this year's Derrick Wilson or something.
Sean Jones... We need you. Please play.
Quote from: wisblue on December 05, 2024, 11:57:46 AMActually, it was a writing mistake. Rather than assuming that readers would know that he was referring to the Detroit Lions on a board about Marquette basketball (and ine sentence immediately following the reference to Saturday's game) he could have said "Two of my favorite teams (MU and the Lions) are competing...." or something to that effect.
But it's OK. Everyone makes writing mistakes sometimes.
He could have been more clear. But the mods slashed the budget for the editors so they're really at fault here.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 05, 2024, 02:40:27 PMYou new here?
Honestly, considering it's the day after a loss, scoop's lack of angst and doom is one of the great sports upsets of this century
35- Kam
35- Stevie
30- Joplin
25- Ben
25- Damarius
25- Royce
15- Tre
10- Caedin
Rounded minutes projection. If Kam can go 40 again, great. If Jop can go more than 30, fine. Gotta get 200 somehow!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 05, 2024, 07:17:53 AMWell, to be fair, the mods got their fat paychecks and quit updating the scholarship table and how do you expect fans that follow the team to know Al was redshirting when that wasn't updated?
Sorry, did you need something?
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To be fair (cue JB), it's not a redshirt until he sits out the entire season. But yes, normally I would have updated the table by now.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 05, 2024, 03:34:59 PMSorry, did you need something?
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To be fair (cue JB), it's not a redshirt until he sits out the entire season. But yes, normally I would have updated the table by now.
That's a good point. 69 needs to suck it up
Perhaps, the algorithm can't differentiate between AI and Al and had no idea what a red shirt for the computer overlord meant.
It will be Royce or Damarius.
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Quote from: WarriorFan on December 05, 2024, 01:22:10 PMIf Lowery is ready he should start. If he's not, then Norman. With the other starters, defense is far more important than offense for the Ross position. Let the frosh watch a few minutes and understand the speed of the game and the intensity of the matchups before they get in.
They have already said that Lowery would be out for both games this week......Ross has been listed as doubtful.......i assume Owens will start since Shaka tends to prefer 3 ball handlers and he'd be replacing A perimeter guy not Jop or Gold.
Zaide is out Saturday.
Source: Rothstein https://x.com/sig_50/status/1864461441060770294
Now that it's game day, as I think about this, if Ross cannot start, it might make sense to start Norman in his place. He can start the game, trying to play aggressive defense, without being concerned as much about foul trouble as you would be if Owens were starting.
I think defense early in the game is critical. The Badgers have taken control and set the tone in each of the last two games by coming out blazing on three point shots and Marquette has spent the rest of the games trying to come back.
I disagree with that. With only 3 healthy guards, I think one should start the game on the bench. And with only 3 bench players, IMO you should have on big, one wing, and one guard to sub in.
Start Owens and don't overthink this. Then pray there isn't foul trouble today, because we're down to 7 guys who will/can contribute. Hamilton being #7.
Wisconsin starts two bigs. Start Parham match up with one.
If Chase can't go I would also start Parham. But it's time for Tre to step up. You go in there, play with intense fire and tenacity defensively, and have confidence on the offensive end. He has the tools. It's time for a complete team effort. Period.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2024, 08:50:19 AMYou go in there, play with intense fire and tenacity defensively, and have confidence on the offensive end.
Unless you are Dan Campbell.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2024, 08:42:15 AMWisconsin starts two bigs. Start Parham match up with one.
Which of Tonje, Blackwell, or Klesmit do you put Joplin on?
It doesn't matter. Better him than one of the frosh.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 07, 2024, 07:27:59 AMStart Owens and don't overthink this. Then pray there isn't foul trouble today, because we're down to 7 guys who will/can contribute. Hamilton being #7.
That's true if you only count contributions on offense.
If Ross can't play, Norman is going to play 10-15 minutes regardless. Whether he starts or not may not be important because Shaka always subs in a couple at or just before the first media timeout anyway.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2024, 09:08:49 AMIt doesn't matter. Better him than one of the frosh.
Well, if Joplin drives in the lane today, I hope he knows he'll be losing valuable NIL $$$
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2024, 08:52:36 AMUnless you are Dan Campbell.
Poor analogy. He made dumb decisions.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2024, 09:29:54 AMPoor analogy. He made dumb decisions.
Philosophically, he is your patron saint.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2024, 09:32:21 AMPhilosophically, he is your patron saint.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2024, 08:42:15 AMWisconsin starts two bigs. Start Parham match up with one.
They suck. Can put anyone on them
#DO2StartingLineup
I expect it will be DO. Fun debate.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2024, 08:42:15 AMWisconsin starts two bigs. Start Parham match up with one.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2024, 09:45:29 AMI expect it will be DO. Fun debate.
Looks like you're debating yourself.
Like I said before I don't think it matters much who starts because all 8 of the available scholarship players will see action within the first 10 minutes.
Where it goes from there might be dictated by how the game unfolds.
If the Badgers make 8 of their first 9 3 point shots like they did two years ago, or Klesmit hits 4 straight early in the game like he did last year, or if Tonje draws enough fouls to be on pace for 20 free throws for the game, the original defensive plans and substitution patterns may have to be altered.
Nope. What I would do vs. what I think will happen.
Quote from: wisblue on December 07, 2024, 10:08:55 AMLooks like you're debating yourself.
Like I said before I don't think it matters much who starts because all 8 of the available scholarship players will see action within the first 10 minutes.
Where it goes from there might be dictated by how the game unfolds.
If the Badgers make 8 of their first 9 3 point shots like they did two years ago, or Klesmit hits 4 straight early in the game like he did last year, or if Tonje draws enough fouls to be on pace for 20 free throws for the game, the original defensive plans and substitution patterns may have to be altered.
if this...
If the Badgers make 8 of their first 9 3 point shots like they did two years ago, or Klesmit hits 4 straight early in the game like he did last year, or if Tonje draws enough fouls to be on pace for 20 free throws for the game, the original defensive plans and substitution patterns may have to be altered.
...happens again 😩🤮
If Tonje doesn't draw fouls, Klesmit doesn't make 3's and the Badgers shoot poorly, I'd still scrap the defensive plan because Gard gets it done
All moot. Which, I think we can all agree, is the best option.
For Chase to not only play, but start and lead the team with 36 minutes while getting 12/8 was really impressive. Great performance.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 08, 2024, 08:44:26 AMFor Chase to not only play, but start and lead the team with 36 minutes while getting 12/8 was really impressive. Great performance.
Not to mention shutting down Tonje.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 08, 2024, 08:44:26 AMFor Chase to not only play, but start and lead the team with 36 minutes while getting 12/8 was really impressive. Great performance.
I remember Ross committed like a month or two before Sean Jones. It was a somewhat quiet commitment. Not a ton of fan fare. When Sean committed there seemed to be more enthusiasm on social media and Chase sent out a "don't forget about me tweet". Chase is turning into everything Shaka said he would "a Dude". His defense is elite. Will be fun to see him finish this year and then take over next year when it's his team.