I liked that screen. And I liked that the refs and Iowa St. embarrassed themselves looking at it for a F-1. I think Caedin will improve and help us as the season progresses.
I like what he brings, but could do without the 3's in a close game. I don't remember him making one all season.
Muggsy you're pretty seashells and balloons tonight, I'm proud of you.
He played 3 minutes, set a perfect screen, and fouled twice.
He's a good body to have, love his ball handling ability and toughness, but he's far and away 3rd on the depth chart at the 5 with Benny and Parham well ahead of him.
Marquette also has a 7 footer coming off a RS year next season.
We heard a ton of positive things about Caedin in the offseason, and he's not good skills, but he's got a lot of work ahead of him
If he can develop into a true rim protector by the end of the year, it would be super valuable to the team. But he really has to figure out how to defend without fouling.
Quote from: 94Warrior on December 04, 2024, 10:10:18 PMI like what he brings, but could do without the 3's in a close game. I don't remember him making one all season.
He took a bad 3. But he's learning. I just think the potential is there. And DO and RP have tremendous upside. Especially when they learn how to defend better.
Quote from: DoctorV on December 04, 2024, 10:12:19 PMMuggsy you're pretty seashells and balloons tonight, I'm proud of you.
He played 3 minutes, set a perfect screen, and fouled twice.
He's a good body to have, love his ball handling ability and toughness, but he's far and away 3rd on the depth chart at the 5 with Benny and Parham well ahead of him.
Marquette also has a 7 footer coming off a RS year next season.
We heard a ton of positive things about Caedin in the offseason, and he's not good skills, but he's got a lot of work ahead of him
I think if we're healthy we have all the pieces to be very formidable by March.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2024, 10:06:28 PMI liked that screen. And I liked that the refs and Iowa St. embarrassed themselves looking at it for a F-1. I think Caedin will improve and help us as the season progresses.
I think Gilbert hit the deck ten times harder on his screen flop than when he actually got busted open.
He chose a bad time to take it, but I'm totally fine with him taking a three every now and then. Stroke doesn't look bad at all.
Caedin is a project big. Physically, Theo John. But does not have a long history of high level basketball prior to MU. Just like Josh Clark. Patience is required.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2024, 10:06:28 PMI liked that screen. And I liked that the refs and Iowa St. embarrassed themselves looking at it for a F-1. I think Caedin will improve and help us as the season progresses.
No one was embarrassed they reviewed that call. It happens all the time.
awesome screen. Perfect technique. Very rare in a 1st year player. Well done young man!
Quote from: WarriorFan on December 05, 2024, 06:24:49 AMawesome screen. Perfect technique. Very rare in a 1st year player. Well done young man!
Honesty, when I saw how hard Gilbert went down, I fully expected to see a forearm push in the replay. But no, that was a textbook pick.
I have no idea how much Caedin will progress over the few next years, but he is definitely a player that I hope gets real minutes this year. I will take my chances with projects like Caedin every year. My gut says that he has a chance to become a real impact player, just needs to play.
Quote from: Goose on December 05, 2024, 07:50:25 AMI have no idea how much Caedin will progress over the few next years, but he is definitely a player that I hope gets real minutes this year. I will take my chances with projects like Caedin every year. My gut says that he has a chance to become a real impact player, just needs to play.
Shaka has taken 4 projects. Keeyan, Amadou, Hamilton, Clark. All are long, athletic, without extensive basketball backgrounds. If you are going to sign projects, those are the ones to sign.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2024, 07:53:35 AMShaka has taken 4 projects. Keeyan, Amadou, Hamilton, Clark. All are long, athletic, without extensive basketball backgrounds. If you are going to sign projects, those are the ones to sign.
I think you could consider Oso a project as well. When Shaka arrived here, Oso had played 5 games, netting 6 points and 6 rebounds.
Fair. He convinced Oso to stay.
I don't mind the idea of taking projects, but outside of that screen, Caedin really wasn't ready for a game like that last night. It feels like Parham has already passed him, and Clark might be waiting in the wings next year.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 05, 2024, 08:09:26 AMI don't mind the idea of taking projects, but outside of that screen, Caedin really wasn't ready for a game like that last night. It feels like Parham has already passed him, and Clark might be waiting in the wings next year.
Caedin is capable of contributing in spot mins and I think he will improve. There are certain situations where I think he'll have to be on the floor.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2024, 07:53:35 AMShaka has taken 4 projects. Keeyan, Amadou, Hamilton, Clark. All are long, athletic, without extensive basketball backgrounds. If you are going to sign projects, those are the ones to sign.
Why hasn't Keeyan played?
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 05, 2024, 08:09:26 AMI don't mind the idea of taking projects, but outside of that screen, Caedin really wasn't ready for a game like that last night. It feels like Parham has already passed him, and Clark might be waiting in the wings next year.
This is where I'm at. I like his size and potential, but his shot selection (25% of his shots from three where he's 0/5) and defense is still a work in progress. Last night he was very forgettable.
Do we count Gold as a project? If so, he's probably Shaka's best big man project here so far. Keeyan transferred, Amadou hasn't shown much, Hamilton isn't there. Hope we see signs of panning out, but I think it might be time to start putting similar effort into big man recruiting that we do into wings.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 05, 2024, 08:34:52 AMThis is where I'm at. I like his size and potential, but his shot selection (25% of his shots from three where he's 0/5) and defense is still a work in progress. Last night he was very forgettable.
Do we count Gold as a project? If so, he's probably Shaka's best big man project here so far. Keeyan transferred, Amadou hasn't shown much, Hamilton isn't there. Hope we see signs of panning out, but I think it might be time to start putting similar effort into big man recruiting that we do into wings.
He's not there yet. But he played 2 mins. I'm hoping we'll see improvement as the season progresses.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 05, 2024, 08:29:25 AMCaedin is capable of contributing in spot mins and I think he will improve. There are certain situations where I think he'll have to be on the floor.
Hopefully. We will see.
With all due respect, we can't just project that Clarke will have passed Caedin by...next year at this time CH will have 40+ high level games under his belt and JC will most likely struggling to find his way.
Trust the process.
As for the 3's...he keeps taking 'em. And he keeps playing. Those are system 3's not Caedin 3's.
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on December 04, 2024, 10:12:38 PMIf he can develop into a true rim protector by the end of the year, it would be super valuable to the team. But he really has to figure out how to defend without fouling.
I think he is going to have to be a rim protector using the lower body more than trying to block shots. He doesn't jump all that well and he's not particularly long-armed. On the other hand, he moves well for a guy that size and, if he gets in front of someone in the lane, that is as far as they are going. I do not see he getting backed down on post-ups. He also has good hands and skills for a project player.
Quote from: The Lens on December 05, 2024, 08:46:27 AMWith all due respect, we can't just project that Clarke will have passed Caedin by...next year at this time CH will have 40+ high level games under his belt and JC will most likely struggling to find his way.
Good thing no one did that.
Look, I hope that Caedin figures it out. I do see why Shaka likes him. He just was overwhelmed last night, and giving him "props" for setting a screen feels like a reach.
It was one helluva screen though
Whole thread dedicated to a screen lmao
Quote from: The Lens on December 05, 2024, 08:46:27 AMAs for the 3's...he keeps taking 'em. And he keeps playing. Those are system 3's not Caedin 3's.
They were also system 3's for Oso, and those quickly were taken out of the offense. When it's someone like Ben, for whom pulling up immediately looks instinctual, I'm in favor. Caedin, like Oso, looks like he thinks about the shot before taking it. That rarely seems to lead to success, IMO. I get that it's probably part of the offense, and I'm sure he's made them in practice, but I don't like that shot 10-12 seconds into the offensive set (Tre got the defensive rebound at 10:50, Caedin shot it at 10:38). That's going to be there the entire possession, and our offense should be able to find a higher percentage look than that given the amount of time left on the shot clock. If there are 10 seconds left, go for it. 20? Hard pass.
What is the saying....bigs take longer to develop. Oso Senior year was light years better than Oso redshirt freshmen year.
Hamilton will develop and be very solid for us. Keep giving him spot minutes and hope for 1-2 or really good moments in the minutes he plays. That screen was a really good moment.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2024, 07:53:35 AMShaka has taken 4 projects. Keeyan, Amadou, Hamilton, Clark. All are long, athletic, without extensive basketball backgrounds. If you are going to sign projects, those are the ones to sign.
Clark strikes me as much different than the other three guys. Time will tell.
Yeah, he is 7'1.
Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2024, 09:43:30 AMYeah, he is 7'1.
I was more impressed with his quickness. Granted it was only the one clip, but Kam shook him twice and both times he recovered to block him.
While we're discussing the screen, help me out here. We were at BWW in Pewaukee and couldn't hear the commentators. Why was that even a foul? He did not extend the arms, and he appeared to be set. We surmised the refs blew the whistle because of the dramatic flop and then on review there was NO foul. Can they not reverse the call? What did you all think?
Quote from: romey on December 05, 2024, 10:17:23 AMWhile we're discussing the screen, help me out here. We were at BWW in Pewaukee and couldn't hear the commentators. Why was that even a foul? He did not extend the arms, and he appeared to be set. We surmised the refs blew the whistle because of the dramatic flop and then on review there was NO foul. Can they not reverse the call? What did you all think?
The foul was on ISU. The ISU guy reached in and slapped Stevie's arm. During the subsequent dead ball, they reviewed Caedin's screen and determined it was fine. Stevie then shot a one on one.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 05, 2024, 10:19:45 AMThe foul was on ISU. The ISU guy reached in and slapped Stevie's arm. During the subsequent dead ball, they reviewed Caedin's screen and determined it was fine. Stevie then shot a one on one.
Ah, that's right. Thanks
Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 05, 2024, 09:45:49 AMI was more impressed with his quickness. Granted it was only the one clip, but Kam shook him twice and both times he recovered to block him.
Same, it's the combination of height, length, and fluidity of movement that stood out to me.