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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on November 27, 2024, 09:47:31 PM

Title: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: tower912 on November 27, 2024, 09:47:31 PM
1.  DO shows us a glimpse.  Ahhhh.  Imagine if he had been healthy all autumn.
2.  Stevie getting beat back door multiple times ?!?!?  And missing free throws?!?!?
3.  Stonehill ran some really nice action to get those layups that made the game seem closer than it was.  I appreciate how they used MU'S ball pressure against MU.
4.  As soon as the deflections started in the first half, the rout was on.
5.  Joplin may have shaken off his slump.
6. I like Martelli.  And hearing Adrien is related to the Jason Ross Jr. guy.  And that a recruit has to be a quality person first.
7.  MU was supposed to win big.  They did.
8.  Quite the harness on Tre's right arm.  Should nickname him Bucky Barnes.
9.  The team will be serving food and spending the day with denizen of the Salvation Army.
10. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.  Safe travels.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: MuggsyB on November 27, 2024, 09:48:58 PM
I like our Freshmen Tower.  I wouldn't want to be WCU on Saturday. 
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 27, 2024, 09:50:43 PM
Good teams win, Great teams cover......by .5
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: CountryRoads on November 27, 2024, 09:51:11 PM
Won and nobody got hurt. Yay
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: tower912 on November 27, 2024, 09:51:56 PM
I do, too.  I look forward to watching them figure it out.  The circle of life.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 27, 2024, 09:55:39 PM
For a nowhere team they played some nice rotations to get some uncontested layups. Disappointing.

Nice coming-out party for DO, though.

Enjoy Thanksgiving, all.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Newsdreams on November 27, 2024, 09:55:52 PM
I feel honored
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: tower912 on November 27, 2024, 09:56:43 PM
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 27, 2024, 09:55:52 PMI feel honored
I assume that you feel Stone-d.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: THRILLHO on November 27, 2024, 09:58:37 PM
I liked the insight that shaka told the second team, "force me to play you!" I think you could see guys trying to prove they deserve it. DO, Royce, looking like playable guys, sophomores not looking as impressive. Zaide and Tre are acceptable as 8 and 9 options but was hoping for more from them.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Newsdreams on November 27, 2024, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 27, 2024, 09:56:43 PMI assume that you feel Stone-d.
Drunk on a cruise 😂
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: BLWarrior91 on November 27, 2024, 10:00:24 PM
Great summary as always, Tower.

Owens looks like he will be a contributor along with Parham.

Nice to see Tre score a bit.  Hopefully that will be the spark he needs.

Jop would've scored 40 if he stayed in the game. 

Happy Thanksgiving to all Scoopers!
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: DoctorV on November 27, 2024, 10:04:06 PM
Thankful for Coach Shaka Smart, and what he's done to this Marquette program.

Thankful for all the dudes that have bought into his vision, and showcase it night in night out.

Can't wait to see what's in store
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Scoop Snoop on November 27, 2024, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: THRILLHO on November 27, 2024, 09:58:37 PMI liked the insight that shaka told the second team, "force me to play you!" I think you could see guys trying to prove they deserve it. DO, Royce, looking like playable guys, sophomores not looking as impressive. Zaide and Tre are acceptable as 8 and 9 options but was hoping for more from them.

Nice summary, And spot on.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: MU82 on November 27, 2024, 10:23:11 PM
Quote from: DoctorV on November 27, 2024, 10:04:06 PMThankful for Coach Shaka Smart, and what he's done to this Marquette program.

Thankful for all the dudes that have bought into his vision, and showcase it night in night out.

Can't wait to see what's in store

Shaka managed Owens' situation perfectly. Gave him a taste against the good opponents, let him loose today.

Very psyched about how good DO is gonna be.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: MuMark on November 27, 2024, 10:27:50 PM
https://x.com/bensteelemjs/status/1861987144346001469?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Jay Bee on November 27, 2024, 10:30:52 PM
Sub-60% at the line and somehow win? #FTsNoMatta

#eFG%reignsSupreme
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: MuggsyB on November 27, 2024, 10:41:42 PM
Quote from: MuMark on November 27, 2024, 10:27:50 PMhttps://x.com/bensteelemjs/status/1861987144346001469?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

Ughhh. 
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on November 27, 2024, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: MuMark on November 27, 2024, 10:27:50 PMhttps://x.com/bensteelemjs/status/1861987144346001469?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

My wife and I turned to each other a couple times when Stewie looked a step slow and got beat a couple times and wondered if he was under the weather. For a team with a bug, they put the clamps down and worked hard. Just get healthy for UW
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 27, 2024, 10:52:07 PM
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on November 27, 2024, 10:46:06 PMMy wife and I turned to each other a couple times when Stewie looked a step slow and got beat a couple times and wondered if he was under the weather. For a team with a bug, they put the clamps down and worked hard. Just get healthy for UW

Nothing says UW is our Superbowl like flat out not even traveling to Ames.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Jay Bee on November 27, 2024, 10:53:08 PM
Walp at least Ben got some NIL dough??

Wonder if any of the many other teams that were down there have the bug?
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on November 27, 2024, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 27, 2024, 10:52:07 PMNothing says UW is our Superbowl like flat out not even traveling to Ames.

Hah, whoops, kinda forgot about that monster of a game
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Jockey on November 27, 2024, 11:03:29 PM
Jop leads in rebounding again. I said here when he was a freshman that he was going to be an excellent rebounder. If I remember correctly, I got a lot of pushback from JB who had all the stats to show me how wrong I was.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Jay Bee on November 27, 2024, 11:05:56 PM
Quote from: Jockey on November 27, 2024, 11:03:29 PMJop leads in rebounding again. I said here when he was a freshman that he was going to be an excellent rebounder. If I remember correctly, I got a lot of pushback from JB who had all the stats to show me how wrong I was.

Quote me, coward. You don't remember correctly.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Jockey on November 27, 2024, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 27, 2024, 11:05:56 PMQuote me, coward. You don't remember correctly.

Right after my post
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 27, 2024, 11:05:56 PMQuote me, coward. You don't remember correctly.

Right after my post that Jop was going to be a good rebounder because he had the best rebounding fundamentals on that team, you posted:

"Until last night, in calendar year 2022, Joplin had one of the ten worst defensive rebounding percentages in ALL of college bball among players who played at least 10% of their team minutes. Literally 1 defensive rebound from Dec 22 through Feb 15."


Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: We R Final Four on November 27, 2024, 11:19:05 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 27, 2024, 09:47:31 PM1.  DO shows us a glimpse.  Ahhhh.  Imagine if he had been healthy all autumn.
2.  Stevie getting beat back door multiple times ?!?!?  And missing free throws?!?!?
3.  Stonehill ran some really nice action to get those layups that made the game seem closer than it was.  I appreciate how they used MU'S ball pressure against MU.
4.  As soon as the deflections started in the first half, the rout was on.
5.  Joplin may have shaken off his slump.
6. I like Martelli.  And hearing Adrien is related to the Jason Ross Jr. guy.  And that a recruit has to be a quality person first.
7.  MU was supposed to win big.  They did.
8.  Quite the harness on Tre's right arm.  Should nickname him Bucky Barnes.
9.  The team will be serving food and spending the day with denizen of the Salvation Army.
10. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.  Safe travels.

1. Yes.......we wouldn't have the losses we have. ?
5. We have seen enough of Jop to know who he is. Its not a slump....its a streak. Hes up and the hes down. He might go 0-10 or he may go 6/8 from deep. He will have bad games in the future...maybe back to back....then he will turn around.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Zog from Margo on November 27, 2024, 11:32:43 PM
Owens, Parham, and Hamilton look like a solid class. Nice to see them get minutes. I guess I'm higher on Lowery than some. I think he's the best defender off the bench. Hard to get a great read in this game but Owens was impressive. That jump stop pass to Hamilton was a coach's dream.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on November 27, 2024, 11:33:29 PM
Still undefeated, less of those lately 
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: DoctorV on November 27, 2024, 11:43:43 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on November 27, 2024, 11:19:05 PM1. Yes.......we wouldn't have the losses we have. ?
5. We have seen enough of Jop to know who he is. Its not a slump....its a streak. Hes up and the hes down. He might go 0-10 or he may go 6/8 from deep. He will have bad games in the future...maybe back to back....then he will turn around.

Yep on 5

Except now he's the best rebounder on the team and a plus interior defender.

He's also the second leading scorer on the team.

A few weeks ago many of us, maybe including I?, were ready to throw the towel in on him.

He's massive to this team, and because of the up and down that you mentioned he's going to be the biggest X factor all season long.

Gonna have to live by the Jop and die by the Jop. Hopefully Marquette can overcome a bad Jop offensive night when it matters most, because for the first time in 4 years they will NEED him out there for the other parts of his game, even if he struggles offensively
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Tyler COLEk on November 28, 2024, 03:07:22 AM
Half of scoop was calling for Joplin to come off the bench two games into the season. The guy is looking like a Second Team All-Big East candidate.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: tower912 on November 28, 2024, 06:09:41 AM
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 28, 2024, 03:07:22 AMHalf of scoop was calling for Joplin to come off the bench two games into the season. The guy is looking like a Second Team All-Big East candidate.
Scoopes, like fans everywhere, can overreact and be prisoners of the moment.   Stay away from the game threads while they are happening.  Go back and read them later for the comedy.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: warriorchick on November 28, 2024, 06:42:40 AM

They looked fine overall in this game, but 9 assists.  Woof.


Marquette didn't have a triple double as a team.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: avid1010 on November 28, 2024, 06:59:14 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on November 28, 2024, 06:42:40 AMThey looked fine overall in this game, but 9 assists.  Woof.


Marquette didn't have a triple double as a team.
MU is really good at taking what a defense gives them...
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Scoop Snoop on November 28, 2024, 07:01:55 AM
Quote from: tower912 on November 28, 2024, 06:09:41 AMScoopes, like fans everywhere, can overreact and be prisoners of the moment.  Stay away from the game threads while they are happening.  Go back and read them later for the comedy.

Exactly! I have been doing that for years. I'm surprised that some of the posters do not erase their posts and sub NM, but then again....they have probably been replied to already  ;D 
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: The Sultan on November 28, 2024, 07:03:50 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on November 28, 2024, 06:42:40 AMThey looked fine overall in this game, but 9 assists.  Woof.


I see 14 in a couple box scores.

Regardless, I wouldn't too much about it. They were getting the shots they wanted off the dribble.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: wisblue on November 28, 2024, 07:17:13 AM
I think everyone saw why those of us who saw the summer open scrimmage were excited about Owens' potential.

Even putting aside the 3 straight 3's his athleticism and confidence really stand out for me. He will have freshman moments like he did last night, but his upside as he gains experience and strength are obvious.

It's too bad that he missed so much practice time and the early buy games because he would be even further along now. But he is forcing his way into being one of the first options off the bench.

I had the pleasure of chatting with him briefly at the summer block party and he seems like a prefect fit for the MU culture.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: warriorchick on November 28, 2024, 08:02:13 AM
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 28, 2024, 07:03:50 AMI see 14 in a couple box scores.

Regardless, I wouldn't too much about it. They were getting the shots they wanted off the dribble.

The Jumbotron at the Fiserv said 9.  I assume that is the official one.

And I am not worried about it at all.  But I am guessing Shaka didn't like it. He mentioned in the postgame with Homer how impressed he was that Stonehill had 22 on 24 field goals.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Herman Cain on November 28, 2024, 08:10:21 AM
Was impressed with some of the plays Stonehill made. That should provided some good tape for the Team to learn from.

Bench getting extended minutes was helpful. Hopefully , MU will rinse and repeat against Western Carolina and get Bench some more run.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: The Sultan on November 28, 2024, 08:11:32 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on November 28, 2024, 08:02:13 AMThe Jumbotron at the Fiserv said 9.  I assume that is the official one.

And I am not worried about it at all.  But I am guessing Shaka didn't like it. He mentioned in the postgame with Homer how impressed he was that Stonehill had 22 on 24 field goals.

Again when you shoot over 60% and score 90+ points, I don't think lack of assists are that big of a deal. If they weren't getting quality looks I would understand, but you'd be asking them to pass out of good shots for the sake of an assist. That doesn't make much sense.

Shaka said something similar on TV and it was more of a compliment to Stonehill and how Marquette had trouble defending their motion. 
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 28, 2024, 08:13:31 AM
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 28, 2024, 08:11:32 AMAgain when you shoot over 60% and score 90+ points, I don't think lack of assists are that big of a deal. If they weren't getting quality looks I would understand, but you'd be asking them to pass out of good shots for the sake of an assist. That doesn't make much sense.

Shaka said something similar on TV and it was more of a compliment to Stonehill and how Marquette had trouble defending their motion. 

The lack of assists and the total defensive meltdown in general last night has alarm bells going off.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 28, 2024, 08:16:20 AM
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 28, 2024, 07:03:50 AMI see 14 in a couple box scores.

Regardless, I wouldn't too much about it. They were getting the shots they wanted off the dribble.

Yeah, once it becomes clear that you can easily "out athlete" the other team there's less running the offense and more one on one play. No worries, we got a whole bunch of easy shots.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: The Sultan on November 28, 2024, 08:34:29 AM
And 14 is the assist total listed on the Marquette site. Safe to say that's official.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 28, 2024, 09:26:39 AM
Yeah the 14 assists is no concern at all.

It was that low because we didnt have to sit and wait for catch and shoot 3s off multiple passes

Jop and Kam could literally have scored any time they felt like it. Chase and Stevie when they chose to drive essentially got to the rim every time as well.

Thers no need to drive and kick when the drive gets you 2 feet from the basket unguarded.
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Newsdreams on November 28, 2024, 09:59:52 AM
Quote from: tower912 on November 28, 2024, 06:09:41 AMScoopes, like fans everywhere, can overreact and be prisoners of the moment.   Stay away from the game threads while they are happening.  Go back and read them later for the comedy.
Stop!!!
Title: Re: Newsdreams-hill
Post by: Jockey on November 28, 2024, 10:29:49 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on November 28, 2024, 06:42:40 AMThey looked fine overall in this game, but 9 assists.  Woof.


Marquette didn't have a triple double as a team.

That is what appealed to me as a fan the most last night. You could have added that it was their worst defensive effort of the year, as well. This is the kind of team that a Wojo-led squad would have struggled to beat by more than 6-8 points. Yet it was a blowout almost from the start.

Before the season, I thought losing TK and Oso might really hurt. But we may very well be a better team this year - especially if Parham and Owens develop to give us a solid bench.
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