Figured I'd start this since there are likely to be two programs that have won national titles in the last decade open going into next season. Who do Villanova and Virginia target?
Both should try to throw a bag at Otzleberger, but I don't see him leaving for either of those jobs.
I think it's too soon for Ben McCollum to get either of those jobs, but I'm a believer. Wins everywhere he goes. If DePaul had waited another year for a change, he'd be at the top of my list if I were them. Bart Lundy falls into this category too.
Will be interested to see if a bigger job gives Will Wade a shot this offseason.
Joe Pasternack could get a high major job soon. If Colorado State has another good season Medved should take the jump to a high major.
Yeah I doubt Otz takes either of those jobs but he def should be a top call.
Can added Minnesota to the vacancy list, but for the purpose of this they don't have the same appeal as Nova/Virginia
I'm probably reading too much into it, but the last time Villanova hired a Hofstra coach it worked out pretty well for them. Speedy Claxton has had Hoftra as one of the top mid majors for the last few years.
I have no idea where UVA goes. Short of Sanchez making some crazy run to the FF or something, it would be insane for them to keep him. I wonder if Ryan Odom doesn't get a serious look if he has a good year at VCU.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 25, 2024, 08:51:18 PMI think it's too soon for Ben McCollum to get either of those jobs, but I'm a believer. Wins everywhere he goes. If DePaul had waited another year for a change, he'd be at the top of my list if I were them. Bart Lundy falls into this category too.
Will be interested to see if a bigger job gives Will Wade a shot this offseason.
Joe Pasternack could get a high major job soon. If Colorado State has another good season Medved should take the jump to a high major.
I mean, Ben McCollum has coached at 1 place for 15 years and now has coached 6 games at Drake, I don't know if "wins everywhere he goes" is valid yet. They started nice but they beat a middle of the pack NIT bound Miami team and a Vandy team picked dead last in the SEC.
Gotta think Pasternak is biding his time waiting for a particular West Coast adjacent gig. I would think Medved would be at the top of the list for Minnesota when they can Ben Johnson this year.
Will Wade is gonna get hired this offseason, IMO. I don't think any interesting SEC or ACC jobs will be open for him (though VT would make sense and I doubt Mike Young is long for there). Honestly, USF may be a interesting spot for him.
There is no reason for Otz to leave. He has it rolling there and ISU can pay him plenty.
While Claxton would be a good choice, I think Villanova is going to do something dumb and replace Neptune with Baker Dunleavy or something like that.
Virginia...I have no idea. Odom is as good a choice as any. I would think if he were younger, they may have gone for Ritchie McKay.
As for Will Wade, maybe Florida if they get rid of Golden?
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 26, 2024, 08:03:24 AMThere is no reason for Otz to leave. He has it rolling there and ISU can pay him plenty.
While Claxton would be a good choice, I think Villanova is going to do something dumb and replace Neptune with Baker Dunleavy or something like that.
Virginia...I have no idea. Odom is as good a choice as any. I would think if he were younger, they may have gone for Ritchie McKay.
As for Will Wade, maybe Florida if they get rid of Golden?
TJO has a lot of history at Iowa State, as does the wife, fwiw. He might be our choice after Shaka takes the Virginia job, though.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 26, 2024, 08:24:24 AMTJO has a lot of history at Iowa State, as does the wife, fwiw. He might be our choice after Shaka takes the Virginia job, though.
We can't afford Wardle? smh...
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 26, 2024, 08:33:01 AMWe can't afford Wardle? smh...
He's the dream hire but he'll be a hot commodity
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 26, 2024, 08:45:41 AMHe's the dream hire but he'll be a hot commodity
Especially now that he coached Bradley to a championship in the Myrtle Beach Invitational. Wins over Texas State, Wright State and Middle Tennessee are a pretty impressive resume.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 26, 2024, 08:03:24 AMThere is no reason for Otz to leave. He has it rolling there and ISU can pay him plenty.
While Claxton would be a good choice, I think Villanova is going to do something dumb and replace Neptune with Baker Dunleavy or something like that.
Virginia...I have no idea. Odom is as good a choice as any. I would think if he were younger, they may have gone for Ritchie McKay.
As for Will Wade, maybe Florida if they get rid of Golden?
Why do you think Villanova is going to do something dumb?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 26, 2024, 08:51:09 AMWhy do you think Villanova is going to do something dumb?
Because I think they are going to still be swayed by Jay Wright and his coaching tree.
Although he did coach Claxton at Hofstra...
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 25, 2024, 09:09:19 PMYeah I doubt Otz takes either of those jobs but he def should be a top call.
Can added Minnesota to the vacancy list, but for the purpose of this they don't have the same appeal as Nova/Virginia
Otz will be the top candidate at Michigan State when Izzo hangs it up sooner than later.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 26, 2024, 08:03:24 AMWhile Claxton would be a good choice, I think Villanova is going to do something dumb and replace Neptune with Baker Dunleavy or something like that.
Virginia...I have no idea. Odom is as good a choice as any. I would think if he were younger, they may have gone for Ritchie McKay.
As for Will Wade, maybe Florida if they get rid of Golden?
Crazy that Nova wouldn't be a premier spot so quickly, shows how rough of a choice Neptune was. Claxton is a pretty good coach, but he took over an NCAA team and has basically just been fine. 1 NIT berth and a couple top 3 finishes isn't anything special when his predecessor won back to back conference titles before stepping down. Not bad, but not what you'd think for one of the top 3 programs of the last decade.
If Florida didn't immediately can Golden, I don't think they will now, especially when he's probably gonna be NCAA bound with a top 6 seed.
Quote from: JWags85 on November 26, 2024, 10:06:28 AMCrazy that Nova wouldn't be a premier spot so quickly, shows how rough of a choice Neptune was. Claxton is a pretty good coach, but he took over an NCAA team and has basically just been fine. 1 NIT berth and a couple top 3 finishes isn't anything special when his predecessor won back to back conference titles before stepping down. Not bad, but not what you'd think for one of the top 3 programs of the last decade.
If Florida didn't immediately can Golden, I don't think they will now, especially when he's probably gonna be NCAA bound with a top 6 seed.
My guess is that they would like to see the Title IX investigation play itself so they can fire with cause.
Ten years ago, just about every high major with an opening was interested in Shaka - the young, dynamic coach who already was very successful at the next level down. Who are this year's Shaka Smarts?
Nova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB.
Quote from: Coleman on November 26, 2024, 11:54:16 AMNova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB.
This is kind of what I was talking about a few years ago when I wondered out loud, "Why can't Marquette become the next Nova?"
Things are fluid in sports. We had the financial backing, the facilities, the administrative support, the fanbase, the long history. We just had to find our Jay Wright ... and hopefully we have in Shaka.
Totally agree with what you're saying about how Nova messed up. It looks like they're on a path to becoming the next Butler.
Quote from: Coleman on November 26, 2024, 11:54:16 AMNova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB.
I get what you are saying, but Marquette managed to find an A+ coach to replace Wojo. With Nova' history and the program's recent past, I disagree that they are "cooked". I also think it is easier for a new coach to come in a couple of years later after a coach like Wright. Rather than comparing him constantly to Wright from the very beginning, the fans would give the new coach a little time to show what he can do.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 26, 2024, 12:05:29 PMI get what you are saying, but Marquette managed to find an A+ coach to replace Wojo. With Nova' history and the program's recent past, I disagree that they are "cooked". I also think it is easier for a new coach to come in a couple of years later after a coach like Wright. Rather than comparing him constantly to Wright from the very beginning, the fans would give the new coach a little time to show what he can do.
Good point, and I hope that's the case with Nova. The Big East is better when they're relevant IMHO.
Quote from: Coleman on November 26, 2024, 11:54:16 AMNova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB.
I don't agree with this at all. Good programs attract good coaches. I don't think Villanova is materially much different now than it was two years ago. If anything the expectations will be lowered.
Neptune is a sober version of Hank Raymonds. Their slide has just begun.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 26, 2024, 12:05:29 PMRather than comparing him constantly to Wright from the very beginning, the fans would give the new coach a little time to show what he can do.
Remember when Shaka beat the #10 team in the country in his third game here.
That was pretty awesome.
In line with PJDunn's comment, I thought about MU reading
Quote from: Coleman on November 26, 2024, 11:54:16 AMNova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB.
Times were different, and staying with the team and loyalty by going with Raymonds and then Majerus were understandable, but Dukiet was our Neptune. What was left of the shine faded quickly. While it has taken many years to get back to where were want (well the championship has yet to come back to Milwaukee), the new achievement of being top 10 in 3 consecutive years, shows that it is possible. Following the footsteps of a legend like Wright is so difficult, and starting with someone like Neptune doesn't help. But, we shouldn't believe that Nova is forever in the wilderness.
Quote from: MU82 on November 26, 2024, 11:50:58 AMTen years ago, just about every high major with an opening was interested in Shaka - the young, dynamic coach who already was very successful at the next level down. Who are this year's Shaka Smarts?
We'll hear Josh Schertz at St Louis (Indiana St last year), Ryan Odom at VCU, and Ben McCollum seems like he could rise fast.
Personally, what impressed me about Smart at VCU was not the Final Four, it was keeping VCU at that kind of level for years after. I'm skeptical of hires that build their rep off a mid-major tourney and 1-3 wins in March. I prefer coaches that elevate a program to levels their program haven't previously been at and sustain it. Self, Beard, Sampson, Few all did that.
If not for his tragic death, I'd have Amir Abdur-Rahim high on that list. Instead the guy I think should be at the fore is Bob Richey at Furman. Only one NCAA appearance (and win) but he took what Niko Medved did and brought them higher. And he's kept them there for years. He deserves that next step up.
Quote from: JWags85 on November 26, 2024, 10:06:28 AMCrazy that Nova wouldn't be a premier spot so quickly, shows how rough of a choice Neptune was. Claxton is a pretty good coach, but he took over an NCAA team and has basically just been fine. 1 NIT berth and a couple top 3 finishes isn't anything special when his predecessor won back to back conference titles before stepping down. Not bad, but not what you'd think for one of the top 3 programs of the last decade.
If Florida didn't immediately can Golden, I don't think they will now, especially when he's probably gonna be NCAA bound with a top 6 seed.
Nova will be fine assuming they move on after this season. UNC made a bad inside the family hire in Doherty and rectified things quickly with the Roy Williams hire. They have the money and resources to stay elite. Sometimes staying within the family doesn't work out when the talent pool is so shallow; look at Syracuse with Autry and Butler hiring Jordan. More proof of the saying that you don't want to be the man who follows the man.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 27, 2024, 08:28:10 AMNova will be fine assuming they move on after this season. UNC made a bad inside the family hire in Doherty and rectified things quickly with the Roy Williams hire. They have the money and resources to stay elite. Sometimes staying within the family doesn't work out when the talent pool is so shallow; look at Syracuse with Autry and Butler hiring Jordan. More proof of the saying that you don't want to be the man who follows the man.
What Villanova grad is coaching at a blue blood and making Final Fours?
Quote from: wadesworld on November 27, 2024, 10:30:06 AMWhat Villanova grad is coaching at a blue blood and making Final Fours?
I used Roy as an example of a blue blood moving on quickly from a hire that backfired and hurt the program (Doherty was a spectacular failure at UNC), regardless of whether UNC stayed "within the family." It doesn't have to be a grad, Roy just happened to be in the example I used. Shaka and Crean at MU are similar examples of programs recognizing the trajectory they were on and reversing that direction by cutting bait.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 27, 2024, 08:20:07 AMWe'll hear Josh Schertz at St Louis (Indiana St last year), Ryan Odom at VCU, and Ben McCollum seems like he could rise fast.
Personally, what impressed me about Smart at VCU was not the Final Four, it was keeping VCU at that kind of level for years after. I'm skeptical of hires that build their rep off a mid-major tourney and 1-3 wins in March. I prefer coaches that elevate a program to levels their program haven't previously been at and sustain it. Self, Beard, Sampson, Few all did that.
If not for his tragic death, I'd have Amir Abdur-Rahim high on that list. Instead the guy I think should be at the fore is Bob Richey at Furman. Only one NCAA appearance (and win) but he took what Niko Medved did and brought them higher. And he's kept them there for years. He deserves that next step up.
This is a really good post, brew, and I appreciate you mentioning some names on the rise.
Agree 100% about Shaka keeping VCU as a relevant A-10 program even after the FF run. That matters.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 27, 2024, 08:28:10 AMNova will be fine assuming they move on after this season. UNC made a bad inside the family hire in Doherty and rectified things quickly with the Roy Williams hire. They have the money and resources to stay elite. Sometimes staying within the family doesn't work out when the talent pool is so shallow; look at Syracuse with Autry and Butler hiring Jordan. More proof of the saying that you don't want to be the man who follows the man.
Nova is not UNC.
And I am not saying Nova will never return to respectability. They will.
What I am saying is they had a chance to climb into the very upper echelon of college basketball. I think that window has now closed.
Quote from: Coleman on November 27, 2024, 12:11:44 PMNova is not UNC.
And I am not saying Nova will never return to respectability. They will.
What I am saying is they had a chance to climb into the very upper echelon of college basketball. I think that window has now closed.
Who do you think that job would have attracted?
Quote from: Coleman on November 27, 2024, 12:11:44 PMNova is not UNC.
And I am not saying Nova will never return to respectability. They will.
What I am saying is they had a chance to climb into the very upper echelon of college basketball. I think that window has now closed.
So Nova is not a blueblood. But NC's 2017 natty was sandwiched between Nova's 2016 and 2018 nattys. I really do not get the "window is closed". It will reopen just as soon as Neptune is handed a couple of cardboard boxes.
Shaka to IU
Quote from: Coleman on November 27, 2024, 12:11:44 PMNova is not UNC.
And I am not saying Nova will never return to respectability. They will.
What I am saying is they had a chance to climb into the very upper echelon of college basketball. I think that window has now closed.
I was curious if Nova could've said they were on par with UNC during Wrights tenure (which was objectively unreal) and I was shocked to realize just how far behind UNC they were during that time.
Nova Under Wright:
Nova goes 520–197
16 NCAA tournaments. 3 S16, Elite 8, 2 FF, 2 Championships
seeds: four 1 seeds, four 2 seeds, one 3 seed, two 5 seeds and a 6 seed.
Meanwhile UNC During Wright's era:
541–209
18 NCAA tournaments, 3 championships, 2 runner up, 1 FF, 3 E8, 2 S16
Seeds: eight 1 seeds, two 2 seeds, one 3 seed, one 4 seed, two 6 seeds.
Thanks Galway. Fair enough comparing the 2 during Wright's tenure, but Jay's starting scenario was different. I went with relatively recent history and admittedly cherry picked.
I still simply do not get the "the window is now closed" bit. Really disagree. On the contrary, Neptune's tenure provides the next Nova coach with a clean slate, not living in Jay's shadow from day 1. There would be a honeymoon period. After that? Better have Nova looking damn good.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 27, 2024, 01:51:32 PMThanks Galway. Fair enough comparing the 2 during Wright's tenure, but Jay's starting scenario was different. I went with relatively recent history and admittedly cherry picked.
I still simply do not get the "the window is now closed" bit. Really disagree. On the contrary, Neptune's tenure provides the next Nova coach with a clean slate, not living in Jay's shadow from day 1. There would be a honeymoon period. After that? Better have Nova looking damn good.
In addition, with House and revenue sharing the Big East schools are going to be at an advantage over the Power 4 who have to share with 85-105 football players. Nova will be just fine. They won't have to settle for a mid-major coach (e.g. Medved, Odom) if they want to aid higher, they'll be able to pull someone to the Power 4 as we did with Shaka.
At the age of 58, this may be Anthony Grant's big chance to get a HC position in a major conference before high majors pass him over due to his age. This year's team may be his ticket. I could see him at Nova and bringing most of his team with him.
He is a Dayton alum.
Ben McCollum is a rising star. He will not be at Drake very long. I am wondering if someone will take a chance next spring and hire him after only 1 year at D1 level.
Quote from: MU82 on November 27, 2024, 11:49:17 AMThis is a really good post, brew, and I appreciate you mentioning some names on the rise.
Agree 100% about Shaka keeping VCU as a relevant A-10 program even after the FF run. That matters.
Another name I should mention. If I were an AD, I would strongly consider Brian Wardle. He built Green Bay into the best program in the Horizon and owns their top two kenpom finishes. He has Bradley top-100 in kenpom for the fourth straight year, something that has never happened there. Two MVC tourney titles and neither were with his best teams. They've been top-3 in both offense and defense in league play each of the past two years.
I know he divides opinions here, and I don't think he's the right fit for every program, but at a place that has the resources & patience for him to build a program, maybe like Iowa, K-State, or Oklahoma, he could be a really good high floor hire.
Quote from: tower912 on November 28, 2024, 08:49:46 AMHe is a Dayton alum.
but if
Yeah, he may be like Boeheim at Syracuse but if he wants to move to a major conference after keeping Dayton in the spotlight for years....?
In his late 50's, he may be saying to himself "don't mess with happy" and actually mean it.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 28, 2024, 08:41:15 AMAt the age of 58, this may be Anthony Grant's big chance to get a HC position in a major conference before high majors pass him over due to his age. This year's team may be his ticket. I could see him at Nova and bringing most of his team with him.
He has been at a high major when he left VCU for Alabama and that didn't work out for him. Nova not having FBS football could appeal to him to make that move but he could also go the Mark Few route and finish his career at a place where he's comfortable and can do things on his terms.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 27, 2024, 01:01:57 PMShaka to IU
I can't see Shaka going to another football school.
I think both Virginia and especially Villanova would go for a splashier hire than this, but what about Matt Langel at Colgate? He's a 5x coach of the year in his league and has guided his team to five NCAA tournaments. He's also only 47. There's no telling if he can recruit at a high level, but he can clearly coach. If Marquette had hired a guy like that after Buzz left, I would've been open to it.
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on November 28, 2024, 11:43:28 AMI think both Virginia and especially Villanova would go for a splashier hire than this, but what about Matt Langel at Colgate? He's a 5x coach of the year in his league and has guided his team to five NCAA tournaments. He's also only 47. There's no telling if he can recruit at a high level, but he can clearly coach. If Marquette had hired a guy like that after Buzz left, I would've been open to it.
I think his career already reached its crest. They should act like the high major they are and aim higher.
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on November 28, 2024, 08:55:18 AMBen McCollum is a rising star. He will not be at Drake very long. I am wondering if someone will take a chance next spring and hire him after only 1 year at D1 level.
Depends upon how many "it's all about talent" ADs will bypass coaching for a Duke assistant.
isn't Nova paying Neptune (Inept-une) over $4 million a year?
They seem willing to pay for the "wright" coach.
They also just brought in a Nova grad as new AD that had been at Oregon.
Would they be willing to give someone like Archie Miller (Rhode Island) another chance at the top? Although he hasn't been very impressive since his run at Dayton. The Indiana/covid stint didn't end well.
Villanova will be shooting higher than Archie Miller.
How about the man himself? Bring Jay Wright out of retirement. It'll take some finangling to fire his hand-picked successor, but let's make it happen.
Medved 2 gophers ainal
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 28, 2024, 04:50:42 PMMedved 2 gophers ainal
Gophers should go for Dutcher. More poetic.
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on November 28, 2024, 04:44:12 PMisn't Nova paying Neptune (Inept-une) over $4 million a year?
They seem willing to pay for the "wright" coach.
They also just brought in a Nova grad as new AD that had been at Oregon.
Would they be willing to give someone like Archie Miller (Rhode Island) another chance at the top? Although he hasn't been very impressive since his run at Dayton. The Indiana/covid stint didn't end well.
Wrong Miller.
Sean Miller is pulling in about $5 million a year at Xavier.
I think he would prove to be a difficult pull for Nova
Sean Miller would be a pretty weak hire for Nova.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 29, 2024, 07:23:09 PMSean Miller would be a pretty weak hire for Nova.
What realistic candidate do you think would be a good hire for them?
Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2024, 12:05:41 AMWhat realistic candidate do you think would be a good hire for them?
It's a pretty grim outlook for Nova. They should've fired Neptune after last year and made a run at Dusty May or Eric Musselman. As is stands, I'd say they should be getting ducks in a row to make the offer of a lifetime to TJ Otzelberger or, even less likely, Nate Oats.
I'm being a bit hard on Sean Miller given X's injury issues last year. He'd be in the acceptable-but-unexciting second tier. If you're poaching a Big East coach, I'd probably rather have Doug McDermott.
Brian Dutcher, Wes Miller and Grant McCasland would be risky but interesting candidates, though probably aren't the right fit geographically.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 30, 2024, 03:26:10 AMIt's a pretty grim outlook for Nova. They should've fired Neptune after last year and made a run at Dusty May or Eric Musselman. As is stands, I'd say they should be getting ducks in a row to make the offer of a lifetime to TJ Otzelberger or, even less likely, Nate Oats.
I'm being a bit hard on Sean Miller given X's injury issues last year. He'd be in the acceptable-but-unexciting second tier. If you're poaching a Big East coach, I'd probably rather have Doug McDermott.
Brian Dutcher, Wes Miller and Grant McCasland would be risky but interesting candidates, though probably aren't the right fit geographically.
May, Musselman, Oats, TJO, are and were never going to be on Nova's radar. Why would TJO leave ISU for Villanova? Ditto Oats and Alabama?
The guys they missed out on last year were the likes of DeVries and Kelsey. They would probably look at someone similar this time. Like a Bob Richey.
I don't get the Sean Miller love. The guy was very good (not great) when NIL was cheating. Now that everyone can "cheat", what does he bring to the table?
Watching Oklahoma last night, would Moser be interested in a switch to some place like Villanova? Oklahoma just seems to be destined to the middle of the SEC forever now.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 30, 2024, 07:15:07 AMI don't get the Sean Miller love. The guy was very good (not great) when NIL was cheating. Now that everyone can "cheat", what does he bring to the table?
Yep. I feel similarly.
Quote from: MUDPT on November 30, 2024, 07:25:41 AMWatching Oklahoma last night, would Moser be interested in a switch to some place like Villanova? Oklahoma just seems to be destined to the middle of the SEC forever now.
That's actually not a bad idea.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 09:35:59 AMThat's actually not a bad idea.
I could see this. but really think Nova could do better. So "not a bad idea", but not a great one either in my opinion. And before you ask....no one comes to mind, but the NCAA tourney always seems to showcase a coach who has been somewhat overlooked.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 30, 2024, 09:42:54 AMI could see this. but really think Nova could do better. So "not a bad idea", but not a great one either in my opinion.
Why do you think they can do better?
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 09:46:10 AMWhy do you think they can do better?
Because of their fairly recent success. The cache' of the Nova name, the 2 nattys, the BE (even though the BE is looking a little shabby at the moment). Moser has had some success in the Big 12 which is widely considered the best bball conference and now is in the SEC. I'm just not seeing enough that says he's the best they can do.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 30, 2024, 10:14:14 AMBecause of their fairly recent success. The cache' of the Nova name, the 2 nattys, the BE (even though the BE is looking a little shabby at the moment). Moser has had some success in the Big 12 which is widely considered the best bball conference and now is in the SEC. I'm just not seeing enough that says he's the best they can do.
I just don't think very good coaches move because of cache and recent national titles. They move because they are going to be paid more and have more resources at their disposal. That is why some of the names mentioned would never really work for Nova.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 10:18:23 AMI just don't think very good coaches move because of cache and recent national titles. They move because they are going to be paid more and have more resources at their disposal. That is why some of the names mentioned would never really work for Nova.
Gotcha! We shall see. The new AD is surely working on this Big Time.
Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2024, 12:05:41 AMWhat realistic candidate do you think would be a good hire for them?
Mick Cronin to Nova.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 09:46:10 AMWhy do you think they can do better?
Because Marquette did better, and Villanova is coming off of a recent dynasty with a few Nattys.
Porter is fine, he would likely be a good fit there, but I'm not sure they would be anywhere close to previous levels with him.
Definitely a level up from Neptune, but yea there's probably more elite hires.
I just haven't thought of who.
Jay Wright himself getting back into it would be best option, so they should at least call him 😃
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 07:01:42 AMMay, Musselman, Oats, TJO, are and were never going to be on Nova's radar. Why would TJO leave ISU for Villanova? Ditto Oats and Alabama?
The guys they missed out on last year were the likes of DeVries and Kelsey. They would probably look at someone similar this time. Like a Bob Richey.
I think you're too low on Nova's potential to draw high-end candidates. The shine has worn off a bit post-Jay Wright, but they're a better job than an Iowa State.
They also have elite spending. They could probably nearly double Otzelberger's $3m salary.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 07:01:42 AMThe guys they missed out on last year were the likes of DeVries and Kelsey. They would probably look at someone similar this time. Like a Bob Richey.
I think Richey would be a great hire there. Heard Speedy Claxton's name, not sure he's shown enough yet. Feels like it's just a Jay-connection hire, which they don't need IMO.
Does UNC open up if they don't make the tournament?
A title game appearance buys you a lot of goodwill, but then you go from preseason no. 1 to no bid. That takes a lot of it away.
Now they come off a 1 seed/S16, pre season top 10 and are very bubbly looking. Brew had them as his last team in last update. Very difficult Noncon-SOS, but only 2 Q1 wins and there won't be a ton of opportunities in the ACC this year, plus a ton of opportunities for bad losses.
Would no dance 2 out of 4 years with UNC level of expectations and insta-transfers get Davis fired?
Quote from: Its DJOver on January 03, 2025, 01:57:25 PMDoes UNC open up if they don't make the tournament?
A title game appearance buys you a lot of goodwill, but then you go from preseason no. 1 to no bid. That takes a lot of it away.
Now they come off a 1 seed/S16, pre season top 10 and are very bubbly looking. Brew had them as his last team in last update. Very difficult Noncon-SOS, but only 2 Q1 wins and there won't be a ton of opportunities in the ACC this year, plus a ton of opportunities for bad losses.
Would no dance 2 out of 4 years with UNC level of expectations and insta-transfers get Davis fired?
I'd think hot seat, but not fired.
Plus, UNC is a football school now, didn't you hear?
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2025, 02:04:06 PMI'd think hot seat, but not fired.
Plus, UNC is a football school now, didn't you hear?
Yep, I agree.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 03, 2025, 02:12:19 PMYep, I agree.
No better coach than the greatest of all time, BB! He is gonna kill it there.
Maybe UNC has been in contact with Phil Jackson's people.
FSU's Hamilton stepping down at the end of the season. ACC's looking a lot different than it did 5 years ago.
Quote from: Its DJOver on February 03, 2025, 02:38:03 PMFSU's Hamilton stepping down at the end of the season. ACC's looking a lot different than it did 5 years ago.
He had lost his fastball.
Mizzou better pony up to keep Gates around, or hope he likes Columbia a lot more than Tallahassee.
Quote from: Its DJOver on February 03, 2025, 02:38:03 PMFSU's Hamilton stepping down at the end of the season. ACC's looking a lot different than it did 5 years ago.
The only ACC coach who was hired prior to 2017 is Brad Brownell at Clemson.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 03, 2025, 02:44:39 PMHe had lost his fastball.
Mizzou better pony up to keep Gates around, or hope he likes Columbia a lot more than Tallahassee.
Hope Shaka takes this gig
Quote from: The Sultan on February 03, 2025, 02:45:28 PMThe only ACC coach who was hired prior to 2017 is Brad Brownell at Clemson.
The only Big East coach hired prior to 2017 is McDermott.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 03, 2025, 02:44:39 PMHe had lost his fastball.
Mizzou better pony up to keep Gates around, or hope he likes Columbia a lot more than Tallahassee.
I'll be very interested in this. I can see Ham wanting Gates to follow him, but with the ACC's contract situation up in the air and the league as a whole declining, would it be better to be an upper half ACC team or a middle-of-the-road SEC team? Honestly not sure the answer to this.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 03, 2025, 06:24:36 PMI'll be very interested in this. I can see Ham wanting Gates to follow him, but with the ACC's contract situation up in the air and the league as a whole declining, would it be better to be an upper half ACC team or a middle-of-the-road SEC team? Honestly not sure the answer to this.
I wonder if FSU will hire Turnkey and Gates' wife to conduct the "search."
ESPN is reportedly working on a new contract that will pay based upon viewership which is what FSU and Clemson want, which will stabilize the conference for a few more years
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 03, 2025, 06:34:35 PMESPN is reportedly working on a new contract that will pay based upon viewership which is what FSU and Clemson want, which will stabilize the conference for a few more years
Hearing the same thing. They think they can shift enough revenue to the unhappy schools to just make it worth while to stick it out as opposed to spending money to get out. Not a long term fix as you allude to and likely to hurt BC, Cuse, Pitt, Wake, etc.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43722918/indiana-mens-college-basketball-coaching-candidates-mike-woodson-brad-stevens-bruce-pearl
Shaka listed in the "likely unattainable but worth making a call" list for the I4 opening. Both Buzz and McDermott listed in the "realistic" tier, but personally feel like they would both say no pretty quick too, unless they flirt to get a pay bump, which both have done in the past.
Quote from: Its DJOver on February 07, 2025, 09:56:20 AMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43722918/indiana-mens-college-basketball-coaching-candidates-mike-woodson-brad-stevens-bruce-pearl
Shaka listed in the "likely unattainable but worth making a call" list for the I4 opening. Both Buzz and McDermott listed in the "realistic" tier, but personally feel like they would both say no pretty quick too, unless they flirt to get a pay bump, which both have done in the past.
Indiana has booster money but the department is also running a deficit.
One of the Drew brothers seems like the most likely candidate, Brad Brownell at Clemson is someone ESPN didn't mention as a possible candidate, as well as Porter Moser. I could see them making a major push for Chris Beard due to the RMK ties, even if it's not connected to IU. I'm not sure there's another program that lives more in the past than IU. TJO is an intriguing possibility.
Quote from: Its DJOver on February 07, 2025, 09:56:20 AMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43722918/indiana-mens-college-basketball-coaching-candidates-mike-woodson-brad-stevens-bruce-pearl
Shaka listed in the "likely unattainable but worth making a call" list for the I4 opening. Both Buzz and McDermott listed in the "realistic" tier, but personally feel like they would both say no pretty quick too, unless they flirt to get a pay bump, which both have done in the past.
I have a tough time seeing Buzz in the Big 10. SEC seems to be a good fit for him. Especially now having some success.
Is it crazy to see how drastic the ACC has evolved in just a matter of seasons.
Gone are Roy Williams, Mike Krzyzewski, Rick Pitino, Jim Boeheim, Tony Bennett, Jim Larranaga and Leonard Williams. Those are each HOF coaches and each was there over ten years at their respective schools.
Only Keatts and Davis are current head coaches that have reached a Final Four, but both are/have been on downward trajectories since those seasons. I struggle to see the ACC ever returning to that high level of a league with coach recognition ever again.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 07, 2025, 11:04:28 AMI have a tough time seeing Buzz in the Big 10. SEC seems to be a good fit for him. Especially now having some success.
Like his days at MU Buzz probably has his agent leaking stories to the press claiming he's a candidate for another job to get a raise and contract extension.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2025, 11:33:17 AMLike his days at MU Buzz probably has his agent leaking stories to the press claiming he's a candidate for another job to get a raise and contract extension.
Similar to most high major coaches in football and basketball.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on February 07, 2025, 11:31:23 AMIs it crazy to see how drastic the ACC has evolved in just a matter of seasons.
Gone are Roy Williams, Mike Krzyzewski, Rick Pitino, Jim Boeheim, Tony Bennett, Jim Larranaga and Leonard Williams. Those are each HOF coaches and each was there over ten years at their respective schools.
Only Keatts and Davis are current head coaches that have reached a Final Four, but both are/have been on downward trajectories since those seasons. I struggle to see the ACC ever returning to that high level of a league with coach recognition ever again.
How many Big 10 coaches have been to a final 4?
Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2025, 11:53:02 AMHow many Big 10 coaches have been to a final 4?
Izzo
Painter
May (at FAU)
Altman (as a member of the Pac-12)
We can also look at the BE:
Hurley
Shaka (at VCU)
Slick Rick (at previous schools)
Matta (at Ohio State)
You are correct. I was being rhetorical.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2025, 10:17:12 AMIndiana has booster money but the department is also running a deficit.
One of the Drew brothers seems like the most likely candidate, Brad Brownell at Clemson is someone ESPN didn't mention as a possible candidate, as well as Porter Moser. I could see them making a major push for Chris Beard due to the RMK ties, even if it's not connected to IU. I'm not sure there's another program that lives more in the past than IU. TJO is an intriguing possibility.
Brad Brownell? He's done a very good job of having a decent enough season to make sure he survives at a place that doesn't care all that much about basketball. I think he would be overwhelmed at IU.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 07, 2025, 03:12:31 PMBrad Brownell? He's done a very good job of having a decent enough season to make sure he survives at a place that doesn't care all that much about basketball. I think he would be overwhelmed at IU.
Same with Porter Moser.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 07, 2025, 03:12:31 PMBrad Brownell? He's done a very good job of having a decent enough season to make sure he survives at a place that doesn't care all that much about basketball. I think he would be overwhelmed at IU.
I've been told it's Brian Wardle's job. They're dumping Woodson early to avoid a bidding war
Quote from: The Sultan on February 07, 2025, 03:12:31 PMBrad Brownell? He's done a very good job of having a decent enough season to make sure he survives at a place that doesn't care all that much about basketball. I think he would be overwhelmed at IU.
His name was brought up last year when IU fans were hoping for an opening and once again today as he's an Indiana native. He would be more likely to get the job than half of the names listed in this article (Shaka, Stevens, Pearl, Oats, et al).
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2025/02/07/indiana-basketball-coaching-candidates-who-will-iu-hire-to-replace-mike-woodson/77731461007/
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2025, 03:46:32 PMHis name was brought up last year when IU fans were hoping for an opening and once again today as he's an Indiana native. He would be more likely to get the job than half of the names listed in this article (Shaka, Stevens, Pearl, Oats, et al).
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2025/02/07/indiana-basketball-coaching-candidates-who-will-iu-hire-to-replace-mike-woodson/77731461007/
Of course he's more likely to get the job. Those people would say "no." Brad would probably say "yes." But he should never be offered the job. So what if he is from Indiana - that's the continued provincial thinking that gets them hiring people like Mike Woodson.
He has by and large been mediocre at a place that doesn't care about basketball. Every so often does well enough to earn a contract extension.
If that's the best they can do, they're in trouble.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 07, 2025, 03:54:28 PMOf course he's more likely to get the job. Those people would say "no." Brad would probably say "yes." But he should never be offered the job. So what if he is from Indiana - that's the continued provincial thinking that gets them hiring people like Mike Woodson.
He has by and large been mediocre at a place that doesn't care about basketball. Every so often does well enough to earn a contract extension.
If that's the best they can do, they're in trouble.
On the other hand, he's had just 1 losing record in 14 years at a place that doesn't care about basketball.
The big unknown is whether he's the next Oliver Purnell or the next Rick Barnes?
Quote from: wadesworld on February 03, 2025, 02:44:39 PMHe had lost his fastball.
Mizzou better pony up to keep Gates around, or hope he likes Columbia a lot more than Tallahassee.
FSU sent all its NIL money to football.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2025, 12:01:59 PMIzzo
Painter
May (at FAU)
Altman (as a member of the Pac-12)
We can also look at the BE:
Hurley
Shaka (at VCU)
Slick Rick (at previous schools)
Matta (at Ohio State)
Mick Cronin slander.
Lots of smoke surrounding Duke assistant Jai Lucas and Miami.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 22, 2025, 04:21:11 PMLots of smoke surrounding Duke assistant Jai Lucas and Miami.
Death, taxes and Duke assistants becoming great head coaches. Right?
Went to the game last night. Sat with a buddy who played on the Villanova 1985 National Championship Team and another acquaintance who was in Jay Wright's inner circle (known in VU basketball circles as Jay Wright's Mafia). This guy used to fly to the games on the team plane and had a great deal to do with the Villanova NIL program.
Told me the decision has already been made to get rid of Neptune. In a month they'll be looking for a new coach.
Said Villanova will be targeting a Power 4 coach. Explained that moving forward for the Power 4 teams football will eat an overwhelming majority of the NIL money. Since the Big East is basketball only and Villanova has the highest NIL money in the Big East they are looking to lure someone who understands basketball is king.
Obviously only a rumor but this was the same guy who told us Jay was stepping down and that Neptune was his hand-picked replacement before it became public.
Quote from: Jables1604 on February 22, 2025, 05:40:57 PMWent to the game last night. Sat with a buddy who played on the Villanova 1985 National Championship Team and another acquaintance who was in Jay Wright's inner circle (known in VU basketball circles as Jay Wright's Mafia). This guy used to fly to the games on the team plane and had a great deal to do with the Villanova NIL program.
Told me the decision has already been made to get rid of Neptune. In a month they'll be looking for a new coach.
Said Villanova will be targeting a Power 4 coach. Explained that moving forward for the Power 4 teams football will eat an overwhelming majority of the NIL money. Since the Big East is basketball only and Villanova has the highest NIL money in the Big East they are looking to lure someone who understands basketball is king.
Obviously only a rumor but this was the same guy who told us Jay was stepping down and that Neptune was his hand-picked replacement before it became public.
And yet Neptune just whipped us.
Thanks for sharing.
I would've guessed the above.
If Neptune finds a way to run the BET gauntlet and get into the dance they might have to walk that back, otherwise it seems like the logical move.
Wonder in which direction they head-
P4 coach that understands that understands that basketball is king- that sort of narrows it down to all of em. I assume they all think/hope basketball is king.
I understand they run a clean ship over there but I still think Will Wade (does previous P4 coach count?) makes sense for them if they look beyond previous mishaps
Quote from: willie warrior on February 22, 2025, 06:33:03 PMAnd yet Neptune just whipped us.
I guess eventually he had to win one...........it's hard to win 9 games in a row against any opponent.....
Wojo beat Gard in his last game against him........did that mean anything?
As an aside, I almost fell out of my chair when I was informed that Neptune makes north of $4 million a year. Had no idea he was getting that kind of money.
Quote from: MuMark on February 22, 2025, 06:51:54 PMI guess eventually he had to win one...........it's hard to win 9 games in a row against any opponent.....
Wojo beat Gard in his last game against him........did that mean anything?
Hey, at least joyless willie didn't make a reference to someone else's junk this time. Progress!
A MU roommate from back in the day has a son at Creighton. CU fans worried Indiana will call McDermott for a talk.
They can call.
Quote from: Viper on February 23, 2025, 08:28:49 AMA MU roommate from back in the day has a son at Creighton. CU fans worried Indiana will call McDermott for a talk.
I guess I can see the allure, but McDermott has his own fiefdom at Creighton. They pay him plenty. And he can win a lot there. Plus, he has decidedly less pressure than he'd have at IU.
Unless you're convinced that the landscape will change so much in the next couple/few years that it would put the Big East and Creighton in peril, how much better is the IU job (if it's better at all)?
Quote from: MU82 on February 23, 2025, 04:11:53 PMI guess I can see the allure, but McDermott has his own fiefdom at Creighton. They pay him plenty. And he can win a lot there. Plus, he has decidedly less pressure than he'd have at IU.
Unless you're convinced that the landscape will change so much in the next couple/few years that it would put the Big East and Creighton in peril, how much better is the IU job (if it's better at all)?
On the flip side, Creighton has huge question marks next year. Would be the perfect time for him to leave.
Is that just a fear or is there some real smoke to it?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 04:16:53 PMOn the flip side, Creighton has huge question marks next year. Would be the perfect time for him to leave.
Is that just a fear or is there some real smoke to it?
Creighton's question marks are no bigger than Marquette's.
Barring transfers, they bring back their 3rd, 5th and 6th leading scorers, all of whom were top 100 recruits. And McDermott has been pretty good at adding key players (Neal, Ashworth, Isaacs, Scheierman) through the portal.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 23, 2025, 04:24:25 PMCreighton's question marks are no bigger than Marquette's.
Barring transfers, they bring back their 3rd, 5th and 6th leading scorers, all of whom were top 100 recruits. And McDermott has been pretty good at adding key players (Neal, Ashworth, Isaacs, Scheierman) through the portal.
Kalkbrenner and Ashworth are their entire team. They've relied on Kalkbrenner for 5 years now.
Marquette has relied on development and that doesn't change.
Every team has question marks. Their question marks are very large.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 04:16:53 PMOn the flip side, Creighton has huge question marks next year. Would be the perfect time for him to leave.
Maybe.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 04:31:00 PMKalkbrenner and Ashworth are their entire team.
A few Marquette fans said the same about Kolek and Oso. McDermott is good at finding impact transfers, I believe Isaacs should be back, and CU has two 4-star freshmen coming in.
But sure, always the chance that he'd see greener grass elsewhere, I suppose. If he leaves, he can enjoy dealing with the entitled nutjobs of Bloomington.
Quote from: MU82 on February 23, 2025, 04:44:13 PMMaybe.
A few Marquette fans said the same about Kolek and Oso. McDermott is good at finding impact transfers, I believe Isaacs should be back, and CU has two 4-star freshmen coming in.
But sure, always the chance that he'd see greener grass elsewhere, I suppose. If he leaves, he can enjoy dealing with the entitled nutjobs of Bloomington.
Marquette was always returning 3 starters this year even without Kolek and Oso. 3 starters with Big East Championship experience including Kam who lead their team in scoring the last 3 seasons now.
McAndrew will be their leading returner at 7 ppg.
Quote from: MU82 on February 23, 2025, 04:11:53 PMI guess I can see the allure, but McDermott has his own fiefdom at Creighton. They pay him plenty. And he can win a lot there. Plus, he has decidedly less pressure than he'd have at IU.
Unless you're convinced that the landscape will change so much in the next couple/few years that it would put the Big East and Creighton in peril, how much better is the IU job (if it's better at all)?
If McDermott goes the first and probably last call goes to DeVries at West Virginia.
But, as I've mentioned before, the BE is going to be at a big advantage with revenue sharing. No football so men's hoops gets the max amount whereas at football schools it goes to 85-105 football players first. We're talking $350k minimum. Coaches will recognize that.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 04:31:00 PMKalkbrenner and Ashworth are their entire team. They've relied on Kalkbrenner for 5 years now.
Marquette has relied on development and that doesn't change.
Every team has question marks. Their question marks are very large.
As are MU's
The only question marks (assuming retention) are who plays point guard and how does the offseason development go.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 04:49:22 PMMarquette was always returning 3 starters this year even without Kolek and Oso. 3 starters with Big East Championship experience including Kam who lead their team in scoring the last 3 seasons now.
McAndrew will be their leading returner at 7 ppg.
Isaacs was averaging 16 points a game when he got hurt......our leading returning scorer is Chase at 10.9.......we will count on development they will use the portal.........I don't see Creighton as having any tougher of a transition than many other teams........Wisconsin will be replacing a bunch of guys too.......it's the norm now.....
In years past you could say rebuild but now it's just finding new pieces to plug in.........certainly Kalkbrenner and Ashworth are huge pieces to replace but so are Kam, Stevie and Jop.
McDermott has a track record.......i think they will be fine.
Quote from: MuMark on February 23, 2025, 05:12:03 PMIsaacs was averaging 16 points a game when he got hurt......our leading returning scorer is Chase at 10.9.......we will count on development they will use the portal.........I don't see Creighton as having any tougher of a transition than many other teams........Wisconsin will be replacing a bunch of guys too.......it's the norm now.....
In years past you could say rebuild but now it's just finding new pieces to plug in.........certainly Kalkbrenner and Ashworth are huge pieces to replace but so are Kam, Stevie and Jop.
McDermott has a track record.......i think they will be fine.
Yep to all of this.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 04:16:53 PMOn the flip side, Creighton has huge question marks next year. Would be the perfect time for him to leave.
Is that just a fear or is there some real smoke to it?
probably just fear. I thought McDermott was linked to an opening last year (Ohio State, maybe?), but I haven't actually seen his name linked to IU.
Quote from: Viper on February 23, 2025, 09:21:07 PMprobably just fear. I thought McDermott was linked to an opening last year (Ohio State, maybe?), but I haven't actually seen his name linked to IU.
I know he was mentions with ND. Its lazy low hanging fruit to rattle off BE coaches when a high profile job opens.
IMO, Creighton's roster next year will have zero impact on McDermott remaining at CU. If he were to leave, pretty much any new school would be in a worse spot that CU year one. Rosters don't move the needle in coaching changes.
Quote from: MU82 on February 23, 2025, 04:11:53 PMI guess I can see the allure, but McDermott has his own fiefdom at Creighton. They pay him plenty. And he can win a lot there. Plus, he has decidedly less pressure than he'd have at IU.
Unless you're convinced that the landscape will change so much in the next couple/few years that it would put the Big East and Creighton in peril, how much better is the IU job (if it's better at all)?
Who knows what the post 2032 Basketball landscape will look like.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 24, 2025, 10:48:05 AMWho knows what the post 2032 Basketball landscape will look like.
I'm not sure I will be around to find out. If so, I will watch Marquette play in whatever conference they are in. Maybe the Big Atlantic 25?
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 24, 2025, 10:52:11 AMI'm not sure I will be around to find out. If so, I will watch Marquette play in whatever conference they are in. Maybe the Big Atlantic 25?
Even if I am, I may not even care.
Quote from: MU82 on February 23, 2025, 04:11:53 PMI guess I can see the allure, but McDermott has his own fiefdom at Creighton. They pay him plenty. And he can win a lot there. Plus, he has decidedly less pressure than he'd have at IU.
Unless you're convinced that the landscape will change so much in the next couple/few years that it would put the Big East and Creighton in peril, how much better is the IU job (if it's better at all)?
But I'ts Indiana. It's Indiana!!
DLTR: II, II!!
My
Quote from: BrewCity83 on February 24, 2025, 11:11:43 AMBut I'ts Indiana. It's Indiana!!
DLTR: II, II!!
my wife + son went to IU last week for a college tour. They ended up at the IU / UCLA game. Their pre game video is all their pasty coaches talking about the specialness of Indiana. They use the TC "It's Indiana, It's Indiana" clip. My wife and son could not stop laughing.
I imagine UNC has the wherewithal to come up with the buyout, but this is a deal they may already regret.
https://x.com/murphsturph/status/1894428774172614671
Shaka to Virginia?:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/virginia-basketball-urged-to-heavily-pursue-former-national-coach-of-the-year-replacing-tony-bennett/ar-AA1Ab211?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhoverent&cvid=36a60844932644e880a7174605f2ad18&ei=21
Wishful thinking for sure.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 03, 2025, 04:05:20 PMShaka to Virginia?:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/virginia-basketball-urged-to-heavily-pursue-former-national-coach-of-the-year-replacing-tony-bennett/ar-AA1Ab211?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhoverent&cvid=36a60844932644e880a7174605f2ad18&ei=21
Wishful thinking for sure.
The author that MSN article points to graduated from UVA in 2024. My guess is that he's not exactly plugged in.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 03, 2025, 04:05:20 PMShaka to Virginia?:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/virginia-basketball-urged-to-heavily-pursue-former-national-coach-of-the-year-replacing-tony-bennett/ar-AA1Ab211?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhoverent&cvid=36a60844932644e880a7174605f2ad18&ei=21
Wishful thinking for sure.
It would be a homerun hire for UVA in the same way Jay Wright would be replacing Shaka. Gotta have dreams.
Fingers crossed Shaka takes the UVA gig and we get a coach that gets some studs to Milwaukee
A lot closer to Newport News, Aircraft Carrier central
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 03, 2025, 05:23:13 PMA lot closer to Newport News, Aircraft Carrier central
We can't afford to lose Wardle to Dayton and it's easier for Shaka to leave instead of us firing him this year financially.
Good coaches recieve phone calls. He turned Kentucky, Louisville, and Michigan ingredients. Last offseason. BTW, all three are thriving. I am worried exactly as much as I was a season ago.
Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2025, 05:29:25 PMGood coaches recieve phone calls. He turned Kentucky, Louisville, and Michigan ingredients. Last offseason. BTW, all three are thriving. I am worried exactly as much as I was a season ago.
Yeah, they dodged a bullet while we circle the drain to palookaville
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2025, 05:31:09 PMYeah, they dodged a bullet while we circle the drain to palookaville
I just hope we don't lose Wardle to a better program - like Dayton.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 03, 2025, 05:32:54 PMI just hope we don't lose Wardle to a better program - like Dayton.
I hope coming home outweighs a better program.
If Shaka goes to UVA, Moser might be available again.
Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2025, 05:34:09 PMIf Shaka goes to UVA, Moser might be available again.
Well, that's who some ball knowers wanted, so that'll be fine, I'm sure. Plus he's been to a Final 4, something Shaka has never done
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2025, 05:34:54 PMWell, that's who some ball knowers wanted, so that'll be fine, I'm sure. Plus he's been to a Final 4, something Shaka has never done
2011 FF, VCU
Assume Rico knows that and is in his trolling trolls mood.
Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2025, 05:59:43 PMAssume Rico knows that and is in his trolling trolls mood.
Crap! Took the bait!
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 03, 2025, 05:58:09 PM2011 FF, VCU
Heh. I follow college basketball pretty closely and I'm pretty sure that VCU has never been to a final four.
Quality trolling.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 03, 2025, 06:09:23 PMHeh. I follow college basketball pretty closely and I'm pretty sure that VCU has never been to a final four.
If VCU ever gets to a final 4 they should give the guy a lifetime contract before they lose him to a big football school........
Nice.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 03, 2025, 06:09:23 PMHeh. I follow college basketball pretty closely and I'm pretty sure that VCU has never been to a final four.
Easily Top 2 in the A10 if you ask me though.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 03, 2025, 05:58:09 PM2011 FF, VCU
VCU making the 2011 Final Four was quite the Shaka.
Nice.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2025, 05:20:56 PMFingers crossed Shaka takes the UVA gig and we get a coach that gets some studs to Milwaukee
Aircraft Carriers & mid range shooters
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 03, 2025, 07:13:47 PMAircraft Carriers & mid range shooters
It would be rebellious and against all current strategy in modern basketball. Love the old school rebellion. Much like eschewing the portal and developing players over time.
Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2025, 05:34:09 PMIf Shaka goes to UVA, Moser might be available again.
Probably won't even need a buyout this time.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 23, 2025, 05:06:15 PMIf McDermott goes the first and probably last call goes to DeVries at West Virginia.
But, as I've mentioned before, the BE is going to be at a big advantage with revenue sharing. No football so men's hoops gets the max amount whereas at football schools it goes to 85-105 football players first. We're talking $350k minimum. Coaches will recognize that.
Word is DeVries and any McDermott assistant won't touch the job so long as the AD and President are still there: Alan Huss at High Point for example.
Would love for McDermott to take it and Creighton to scramble for a replacement.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 03, 2025, 06:36:28 PMEasily Top 2 in the A10 if you ask me though.
They always get it done.
Quote from: MU82 on March 03, 2025, 08:10:28 PMThey always get it done.
Always got it done under Shaka*
an interesting favorite emerging for Indiana" Mick Cronin.
IU fans have accepted they aren't getting Brad Stevens. Cronin isn't a sexy hire but he would be a really good one for IU. He's looking to leave UCLA as he didn't sign up for the travel that is involved with being in the Big Ten.
IU is in the Big 10
Quote from: tower912 on March 04, 2025, 09:22:41 AMIU is in the Big 10
yes, but does not have to travel nearly as much as UCLA does. IU has only had to go west once (and that will be the situation each season), Oregon and Washington, whereas UCLA played seven conference games (four different trips) in the central and eastern time zones (and the BTT is in Indy, so make that five trips). Cronin has made his displeasure with the travel known:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/ucla-mick-cronin-postgame-rant-big-ten-travel-schedule
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 04, 2025, 10:05:22 AMyes, but does not have to travel nearly as much as UCLA does. IU has only had to go west once (and that will be the situation each season), Oregon and Washington, whereas UCLA played seven conference games (four different trips) in the central and eastern time zones (and the BTT is in Indy, so make that five trips). Cronin has made his displeasure with the travel known:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/ucla-mick-cronin-postgame-rant-big-ten-travel-schedule
Cornin will make his displeasure known about a lot of different things. If it's not travel, it's his team's effort. He's not happy unless he's unahppy.
If you looked like a bald Simon Pegg, you would be grumpy, too.
Cronin would be an excellent hire for Indiana.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 04, 2025, 10:52:36 AMCronin would be an excellent hire for Indiana.
Second best name I've seen connected to Indiana behind Beard. I think McDermott would get chewed up and spit out.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 04, 2025, 11:03:36 AMSecond best name I've seen connected to Indiana behind Beard. I think McDermott would get chewed up and spit out.
How come?
McDermott is a great coach and has been recruiting very well of late, and getting creative recruiting in a variety of ways.
You don't think he would build a successful plantation in Indiana?
Quote from: DoctorV on March 04, 2025, 02:14:30 PMHow come?
McDermott is a great coach and has been recruiting very well of late, and getting creative recruiting in a variety of ways.
You don't think he would build a successful plantation in Indiana?
I don't think he's got the right demeaner to take on that pressure cooker. The plantation comment probably plays just as well with Indiana fans as it did with Creighton fans, though.
Probably played pretty well with a large portion of scoop as well.
Quote from: tower912 on March 04, 2025, 10:48:44 AMIf you looked like a bald Simon Pegg, you would be grumpy, too.
He is the chode to the penis Kevin Willard
Quote from: PJDunn on March 04, 2025, 03:01:25 PMProbably played pretty well with a large portion of scoop as well.
Dentists dream of plantations
So, next coach at Nova?
Texas will be searching as well
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 04, 2025, 08:59:30 PMSo, next coach at Nova?
Texas will be searching as well
That's a tough call.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 04, 2025, 08:59:30 PMSo, next coach at Nova?
Texas will be searching as well
Shaka to Texas!
Based on these numbers, I would say Neptune is back next year: https://www.sportscasting.com/news/kyle-neptune-buyout-contract-salary-how-much-will-it-cost-villanova-to-fire-their-basketball-coach
Quote from: MUbiz on March 05, 2025, 09:47:47 AMBased on these numbers, I would say Neptune is back next year: https://www.sportscasting.com/news/kyle-neptune-buyout-contract-salary-how-much-will-it-cost-villanova-to-fire-their-basketball-coach
They very well could make the argument that he needs one more year, but if they wanted to they could find the money to make a change.
Quote from: MUbiz on March 05, 2025, 09:47:47 AMBased on these numbers, I would say Neptune is back next year: https://www.sportscasting.com/news/kyle-neptune-buyout-contract-salary-how-much-will-it-cost-villanova-to-fire-their-basketball-coach
Nova has plenty of donors with deep pockets. Many people didn't think MU would pull the trigger on Wojo because of his buyout but leadership realized waiting another year could/would have adverse effects on the program (despite a strong recruiting class) and found the money. Nova only has one player signed for 2025, the son of a former player, Malik Allen. Another year of Neptune will further harm the program.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 05, 2025, 09:58:53 AMNova has plenty of donors with deep pockets. Many people didn't think MU would pull the trigger on Wojo because of his buyout but leadership realized waiting another year could/would have adverse effects on the program (despite a strong recruiting class) and found the money. Nova only has one player signed for 2025, the son of a former player, Malik Allen. Another year of Neptune will further harm the program.
I agree with this. If Neptune comes back it is because they still believe in him, not because of money.
Honestly, I always had the sense that Villanova always knew that Neptune would be just the "guy after the legend" that doesn't come close to matching the previous success. Nobody wants to be the guy after the legend, and Nova just bought in to that theory.
Instead, they're looking for (and always have been looking for) the NEXT guy. Does Nova know who that is? Is that guy available right now? If the answers to those questions are yes, then an $8M buyout is peanuts. If they don't, why not wait one more year?
Quote from: MUbiz on March 05, 2025, 09:47:47 AMBased on these numbers, I would say Neptune is back next year: https://www.sportscasting.com/news/kyle-neptune-buyout-contract-salary-how-much-will-it-cost-villanova-to-fire-their-basketball-coach
What is the cost to not fire?
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 05, 2025, 11:40:20 AMHonestly, I always had the sense that Villanova always knew that Neptune would be just the "guy after the legend" that doesn't come close to matching the previous success. Nobody wants to be the guy after the legend, and Nova just bought in to that theory.
Instead, they're looking for (and always have been looking for) the NEXT guy. Does Nova know who that is? Is that guy available right now? If the answers to those questions are yes, then an $8M buyout is peanuts. If they don't, why not wait one more year?
I agree with your first paragraph - they basically let Wright choose his successor, and that guy was Neptune.
But I think the second paragraph is odd. If they know who the next guy they are targetting, why wouldn't he be available now but then be available at some point in the future? I think if you don't think Neptune is the guy, you cut the cord and run your search. If the main target says "no," you just go elsewhere.
Quote from: MUbiz on March 05, 2025, 09:47:47 AMBased on these numbers, I would say Neptune is back next year: https://www.sportscasting.com/news/kyle-neptune-buyout-contract-salary-how-much-will-it-cost-villanova-to-fire-their-basketball-coach
That's a really, really, really bad contract - it's a borderline fire-able offense for the person that approved it.
I'd love to know Villanova's justification for giving that kind of money and buy-out to a guy who had one bad season of coaching experience at a mid-major.
You give that kind of deal to somebody so you can get him before one of his many other suitors do. But in this case, there were no other suitors.
Big credit to Neptune's agent, though!
Quote from: MU82 on March 05, 2025, 02:39:31 PMThat's a really, really, really bad contract - it's a borderline fire-able offense for the person that approved it.
Good thing that guy left Villanova for Northwestern just months after giving that contract. They have a new AD in place now.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 05, 2025, 02:44:32 PMGood thing that guy left Villanova for Northwestern just months after giving that contract. They have a new AD in place now.
Thanks for that info.
For Northwestern's sake, here's hoping he has learned a few things from a massive error like that contract.
That new AD is also a reason why a change may be made this year.
If they want good recruiting classes, Nova should take a swing on Wojo
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 05, 2025, 03:14:48 PMIf they want good recruiting classes, Nova should take a swing on Wojo
Left or right cheek?
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 05, 2025, 03:23:25 PMLeft or right cheek?
Please go to confession before game time.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 05, 2025, 03:29:13 PMPlease go to confession before game time.
No I'm evil, been drinking. Will watch game at a bar from this forsaken evil party ship.
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 05, 2025, 03:35:58 PMNo I'm evil, been drinking. Will watch game at a bar from this forsaken evil party ship.
I will put in an SAP requisition for a prayer for you.
Quote from: MU82 on March 05, 2025, 02:39:31 PMThat's a really, really, really bad contract - it's a borderline fire-able offense for the person that approved it.
I'd love to know Villanova's justification for giving that kind of money and buy-out to a guy who had one bad season of coaching experience at a mid-major.
You give that kind of deal to somebody so you can get him before one of his many other suitors do. But in this case, there were no other suitors.
Big credit to Neptune's agent, though!
How do we know that is accurate though? Since Nova is private they don't have to disclose that information publically.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 05, 2025, 03:44:31 PMHow do we know that is accurate though? Since Nova is private they don't have to disclose that information publically.
I'm guessing it came from the agent. That's how such stuff usually gets put. Or "insiders" - which is how Shaka's info has been available here and elsewhere.
Could it all have been made up? I guess, but there's sure lots of details.
Jai Lucas is the new Miami coach and will leave the Duke staff before the tourney starts as the Transfer Portal opens March 24.
https://x.com/jeffborzello/status/1897414982004040044?t=r14GuH8LJZfMHgb9jEL4iQ&s=19
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 05, 2025, 05:49:41 PMJai Lucas is the new Miami coach and will leave the Duke staff before the tourney starts as the Transfer Portal opens March 24.
https://x.com/jeffborzello/status/1897414982004040044?t=r14GuH8LJZfMHgb9jEL4iQ&s=19
The next Woj
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 05, 2025, 06:31:20 PMThe next Woj
Woj, Snyder, Amaker, Henderson...
The most successful former Duke player turned assistant turned HC elsewhere is probably Chris Collins.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 05, 2025, 10:13:09 PMWoj, Snyder, Amaker, Henderson...
The most successful former Duke player turned assistant turned HC elsewhere is probably Chris Collins.
Lucas isn't a former Duke player. He's been there just a couple seasons. Played at Texas. Assisted there and at Kentucky.
COLE if you don't want MU to be part of the coaching carousel tbh.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 05, 2025, 10:14:04 PMLucas isn't a former Duke player. He's been there just a couple seasons. Played at Texas. Assisted there and at Kentucky.
So Miami got themselves the next Mike Brey?
Florida State appears to be going the NBA assistant route right after Utah did. BYU may have started the new trend in college hoops with their hiring of Kevin Young and his subsequent on court and recruiting success:
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1886509038831329421
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 07, 2025, 11:22:27 AMFlorida State appears to be going the NBA assistant route right after Utah did. BYU may have started the new trend in college hoops with their hiring of Kevin Young and his subsequent on court and recruiting success:
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1886509038831329421
Why not? Worked for Indiana and Georgetown when they hired Mike Woodson and Patrick Ewing, respectively.
Kevin Keatts fired at NC State - a year after his surprise run to the Final Four.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 09, 2025, 09:08:38 AMKevin Keatts fired at NC State - a year after his surprise run to the Final Four.
His contract was extended to 2030 just a year ago.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/kevin-keatts-contract-details-nc-state-coach-bonuses-sweet-16/9ea40dea59e22b0cd931442d
Quote from: The Sultan on March 09, 2025, 09:08:38 AMKevin Keatts fired at NC State - a year after his surprise charmed run to the Final Four.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on March 09, 2025, 09:24:51 AMHis contract was extended to 2030 just a year ago.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/kevin-keatts-contract-details-nc-state-coach-bonuses-sweet-16/9ea40dea59e22b0cd931442d
The only question is if there is a reduced buy out or if there are offsets if he is hired elsewhere.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 09, 2025, 09:08:38 AMKevin Keatts fired at NC State - a year after his surprise run to the Final Four.
Ill never fully get over last year. Was the year.
Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on March 09, 2025, 09:38:50 AMIll never fully get over last year. Was the year.
The last two tournaments the bracket couldn't have broken better in our favor.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on March 09, 2025, 09:24:51 AMHis contract was extended to 2030 just a year ago.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/kevin-keatts-contract-details-nc-state-coach-bonuses-sweet-16/9ea40dea59e22b0cd931442d
Lesson: Don't extend the contract of someone (or hire someone) just because of one tournament run. In addition to Keatts, see the likes of Andy Enfield and Shaheen Holloway. Gotta look at the overall body of work; Keatts' certainly was unimpressive aside from last year's run.
Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2025, 02:02:03 PMLesson: Don't extend the contract of someone (or hire someone) just because of one tournament run. In addition to Keatts, see the likes of Andy Enfield and Shaheen Holloway. Gotta look at the overall body of work; Keatts' certainly was unimpressive aside from last year's run.
It was an automatic extension per his contract. I doubt NCSU wpuld have extended him even after the Final Four run.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 09, 2025, 02:05:46 PMIt was an automatic extension per his contract. I doubt NCSU wpuld have extended him even after the Final Four run.
Thanks for the correction.
The lesson still stands.
Former MU assistant Justin Gainey a top candidate for the NC State job.
Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2025, 02:46:25 PMThanks for the correction.
The lesson still stands.
The reported buy-out was only $8 million.....I call that a mutual parting of the ways.....
Quote from: burger on March 09, 2025, 07:22:19 PMThe reported buy-out was only $8 million.....I call that a mutual parting of the ways.....
Peanuts. Less than Wojo's IIRC!
If Wojo had made a surprise run to the Final Four, Cam Marotta would now be our Associate Head Coach, Jake Presutti would be Athletic Director, Sacar Anim would be Director of Basketball Operations, we'd be playing our games on the Markus Howard Court, and there'd be a statue outside Fiserv of Theo John flexing his muscles after committing a blocking foul, his third of the first half.
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on March 10, 2025, 09:06:25 AMIf Wojo had made a surprise run to the Final Four, Cam Marotta would now be our Associate Head Coach, Jake Presutti would be Athletic Director, Sacar Anim would be Director of Basketball Operations, we'd be playing our games on the Markus Howard Court, and there'd be a statue outside Fiserv of Theo John flexing his muscles after committing a blocking foul, his third of the first half.
awesome!
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on March 10, 2025, 09:06:25 AMIf Wojo had made a surprise run to the Final Four, Cam Marotta would now be our Associate Head Coach, Jake Presutti would be Athletic Director, Sacar Anim would be Director of Basketball Operations, we'd be playing our games on the Markus Howard Court, and there'd be a statue outside Fiserv of Theo John flexing his muscles after committing a blocking foul, his third of the first half.
If MU had made a run to the final 4 under Wojo, all of that would be fine.
Is that stat from a few years ago that a coach had never been fired in a year he makes the tournament still true/active?
Is so, is this the year it falls? Moser, Terry, Davis, Woodson (whether or not that's officially a firing can be debated). Feel like the bubble is soft enough that one of them has to sneak in, but could still see any of them being gone if they sneak in but go 1-and-done.
Quote from: Its DJOver on March 10, 2025, 12:42:38 PMIs that stat from a few years ago that a coach had never been fired in a year he makes the tournament still true/active?
Is so, is this the year it falls? Moser, Terry, Davis, Woodson (whether or not that's officially a firing can be debated). Feel like the bubble is soft enough that one of them has to sneak in, but could still see any of them being gone if they sneak in but go 1-and-done.
Does Bill Freider count? He took the Arizona State job right before the tourney and Bo Schembechler told him to hit the road instead of coaching Michigan through the end of the season as Frieder announced he was going to do.
Ron Abegglen was forced to resign effective the end of the 1999 season and Weber State ended up beating UNC in the first round and was still told to hit the road, though that probably doesn't count.
Virginia's search committee has a list of 5 coaching candidates they are recommending to the AD. Looks like Ryan Odom is on top of that list. Shaka on the list with a mention about informal contact made with him.
https://augustafreepress.com/news/uva-basketball-search-comes-down-to-five-finalists-no-we-dont-have-a-coach-yet/
Quote from: Big Papi on March 11, 2025, 08:20:25 AMVirginia's search committee has a list of 5 coaching candidates they are recommending to the AD. Looks like Ryan Odom is on top of that list. Shaka on the list with a mention about informal contact made with him.
https://augustafreepress.com/news/uva-basketball-search-comes-down-to-five-finalists-no-we-dont-have-a-coach-yet/
If there was "mutual interest" with Shaka, let's hope that he is simply letting Marquette know to not take him for granted, although I do not think there has been even a hint of that.
I know quite a few UVA fans and Bennet was always very respected, even after the extremely embarrassing loss to UMBC. UVA fans, including students, do not turn on their basketball coaches when things get "dicey" as other fan bases do. Even Bennet's poorly timed departure did not result in widespread venting. Football is always king, but UVA FB is a far cry from UT FB. Hopefully, Odom is offered and accepts the HC position.
Quote from: Big Papi on March 11, 2025, 08:20:25 AMVirginia's search committee has a list of 5 coaching candidates they are recommending to the AD. Looks like Ryan Odom is on top of that list. Shaka on the list with a mention about informal contact made with him.
https://augustafreepress.com/news/uva-basketball-search-comes-down-to-five-finalists-no-we-dont-have-a-coach-yet/
It also described Shaka as a "hard get." I'm not worried.
When all is said and done they'll probably hire Ryan Odom (who of course coached UMBC to the 16-1 upset)
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 11, 2025, 09:47:24 AMIt also described Shaka as a "hard get." I'm not worried.
When all is said and done they'll probably hire Ryan Odom (who of course coached UMBC to the 16-1 upset)
Agree. I'm simply pointing out that if Shaka was unhappy, I think this is the type of position that would interest him. I would be shocked if left MU.
"As of a couple of weeks ago, Smart seemed to be the frontrunner; that he isn't now suggests to me that there is a sense from the committee that he may be a hard get."
But good try!
Somebody fill me in on the stories about Buzz Williams refusing to flush...
Quote from: Jables1604 on March 11, 2025, 10:04:44 AMSomebody fill me in on the stories about Buzz Williams refusing to flush...
What? This is a really crappy question.
Hasn't Shaka said in the past that you have to at the very least take the call?
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 11, 2025, 10:12:17 AMHasn't Shaka said in the past that you have to at the very least take the call?
Obviously he took the call from Marquette. It doesn't mean it will be the same result though.
I thought he said he took the calls to be courteous but they were usually pretty quick.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 11, 2025, 09:41:37 AMIf there was "mutual interest" with Shaka, let's hope that he is simply letting Marquette know to not take him for granted, although I do not think there has been even a hint of that.
I know quite a few UVA fans and Bennet was always very respected, even after the extremely embarrassing loss to UMBC. UVA fans, including students, do not turn on their basketball coaches when things get "dicey" as other fan bases do. Even Bennet's poorly timed departure did not result in widespread venting. Football is always king, but UVA FB is a far cry from UT FB. Hopefully, Odom is offered and accepts the HC position.
Shaka is reading Scoop and is pissed.
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 11, 2025, 11:33:41 AMShaka is reading Scoop and is pissed.
True. But
one thread title must have been the last straw. SO close to taking down SJU and then? "Deserved to lose". Nice going Muggsy. Nice going.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 11, 2025, 11:47:16 AMTrue. But one thread title must have been the last straw. SO close to taking down SJU and then? "Deserved to lose". Nice going Muggsy. Nice going.
Feel like riding in my car and running over every single 🐢 🐢 I see.
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 11, 2025, 11:56:46 AMFeel like riding in my car and running over every single 🐢 🐢 I see.
Blanding's hopefully.
The athletic lists the following coaches squarely on the hot seat and possibly out of a job very soon
Kyle Neptune (duh)
Rodney Terry at Texas
Bobby Hurley at ASU
Fran McCafferey at Iowa
Porter Moser at Oklahoma
Reading the article it dawned on me that Buzz to Texas might be a real possibility very soon.
The Texan would get his lifelong wish...
I bet he would become a hero there too.
That fanbase is delusional and is badly craving NCAA wins (aren't they all!)
With Buzz, they might just get what they wish. That program has had decades of great coaches, but has lacked the March success.
Coach Williams' larger than life persona could play well too since he loves the spotlight.
Maybe it's time to find out if Texas and Buzz go together like peas and carrots?
Quote from: DoctorV on March 11, 2025, 01:46:18 PMBobby Hurley at ASU
A name from the past related to the snippet on Hurley:
"Portal additions BJ Freeman, Basheer Jihad and
Alston Mason "
Son of half-semester MU legend Alton Mason. I was once told he was ripping up Hutch in practice but his midterm grades showed he couldn't hack MU academics.
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 11, 2025, 11:33:41 AMShaka is reading Scoop and is pissed.
Shaka may not know Rico is trolling.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2025, 03:30:19 PMShaka may not know Rico is trolling.
Dear Shaka, assume Rico is trolling.
Thank you Tower.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2025, 03:30:19 PMShaka may not know Rico is trolling.
Actually not referencing Rico, but a bunch on Scoop
Hurley (reportedly), back for another year at ASU:
https://x.com/ChrisKarpman/status/1899556617148039231?t=ST_ju4t3RRkEm1Eg6C7shQ&s=19
I know. I was only joking.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 11, 2025, 04:15:34 PMHurley (reportedly), back for another year at ASU:
https://x.com/ChrisKarpman/status/1899556617148039231?t=ST_ju4t3RRkEm1Eg6C7shQ&s=19
If you're just hanging on through the last year of your contract, you're already Dead Coach Walking.
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 11, 2025, 11:56:46 AMFeel like riding in my car and running over every single 🐢 🐢 I see.
Stop attacking and projecting your anger on the 350+ species of 🐢 🐢. They have no vices and are tremendous members of the animal kingdom.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2025, 06:31:32 PMStop attacking and projecting your anger on the 350+ species of 🐢 🐢. They have no vices and are tremendous members of the animal kingdom.
They're idiots in shells. Get out of the road you slow a's
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2025, 06:38:34 PMThey're idiots in shells. Get out of the road you slow a's
Jonathan the Tortoise is at least 192 years old, and more likely 200. Have some respect.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2025, 07:12:30 PMJonathan the Tortoise is at least 192 years old, and more likely 200. Have some respect.
His stock portfolio is probably tanking
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2025, 07:20:06 PMHis stock portfolio is probably tanking
He has a full staff and very good caretakers.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2025, 07:23:46 PMHe has a full staff and very good caretakers.
So, he's leeching off the state
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2025, 07:41:48 PMSo, he's leeching off the state
He's not leeching off of anyone. There are good people out there that respect him and his species.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2025, 07:48:45 PMHe's not leeching off of anyone. There are good people out there that respect him and his species.
Yes, he is. He needs to learn to take care of himself.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2025, 06:31:32 PMStop attacking and projecting your anger on the 350+ species of 🐢 🐢. They have no vices and are tremendous members of the animal kingdom.
I'll say it again, 🐢 soup is awesome
Like some posters here, some turtles can breathe through their butts
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Quote from: MU82 on March 11, 2025, 05:09:01 PMIf you're just hanging on through the last year of your contract, you're already Dead Coach Walking.
Maybe. As schools prepare for revenue sharing under House there's going to be less money for buyouts. And, with the Portal and immediate eligibility coaches, regardless of the state of their contract, can turn a program around in a year. Likely a financial risk/reward decision for both parties. Ben Johnson is likely going to hang out at Minnesota for the same reasons.
Also, Arizona State recently fired their WBB coach and it will cost them $1.2 million and they are still paying Herm Edwards and their former AD. It would have cost $4 million if they fired Hurley.
https://247sports.com/college/arizona-state/article/asu-basketball-bobby-hurley-will-not-be-fired-could-return-next-season-sun-devils-big-12-graham-rossini-246847418/
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2025, 06:38:34 PMThey're idiots in shells. Get out of the road you slow a's
They're heroes in a half shell.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 12, 2025, 09:22:20 AMThey're heroes in a half shell.
But enough about my preference on oysters
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 12, 2025, 09:22:20 AMThey're heroes in a half shell.
Talking about Mutants?
CurryHicksSage teased a "bombshell" for a Twitter Spaces tonight and just now said on his Twitter Spaces that Shaka Smart has real interest in the Virginia job.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 12, 2025, 08:46:34 PMCurryHicksSage teased a "bombshell" for a Twitter Spaces tonight and just now said on his Twitter Spaces that Shaka Smart has real interest in the Virginia job.
Worried.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 12, 2025, 08:46:34 PMCurryHicksSage teased a "bombshell" for a Twitter Spaces tonight and just now said on his Twitter Spaces that Shaka Smart has real interest in the Virginia job.
Who the H is CurryHicksSage?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 12, 2025, 08:50:28 PMWho the H is CurryHicksSage?
Somewhat prominent in the College Hoops Twitter World. His claim is that he was told from a few sources that Shaka is the one with real interest.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 12, 2025, 08:50:28 PMWho the H is CurryHicksSage?
a UMass fan (named after their old gym, Curry Hicks Cage) who also does a pocast and a bunch of stuff on coaching searches. HoopDirt is a better place to follow coaching search news.
https://x.com/CurryHicksSage
Done deal. CurryChickenSalad sez do.
https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1900143915589681360?t=Z5r5CJLpRkxS3pfAoSpykQ&s=19
Welcome home, Coach Wardle
Wardle gets used as a punchline, but he and McCollum are probably both going to move up.
Quote from: tower912 on March 13, 2025, 06:32:27 AMWardle gets used as a punchline, but he and McCollum are probably both going to move up.
Yeah, Wardle is coming home. I'm not the one with my head buried in the sand. Shaka GOWNE
Quote from: tower912 on March 13, 2025, 06:32:27 AMWardle gets used as a punchline, but he and McCollum are probably both going to move up.
I think Wardle moves "up" eventually, but I would be suprised to see him get a major gig. I just don't think that syle of play is all that attractive.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 13, 2025, 08:08:07 AMI think Wardle moves "up" eventually, but I would be suprised to see him get a major gig. I just don't think that syle of play is all that attractive.
Boy, are you in for a treat
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2025, 08:14:13 AMBoy, are you in for a treat
Well when Shaka leaves, Marquette ceases to become a major gig. Our only hope is some sort of merger with the A10.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 12, 2025, 08:48:37 PMWorried.
Better be, have 4th hand info, Maya hates MU and wants to move to warmer weather.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 13, 2025, 06:21:11 AMhttps://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1900143915589681360?t=Z5r5CJLpRkxS3pfAoSpykQ&s=19
Nico Medved, welcome back to Dinkytown.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 13, 2025, 09:01:36 AMNico Medved, welcome back to Dinkytown.
I will say, if Medved can't find a modicum of success at Minnesota, then I'm not sure who can
Maybe Shaka is ticked off at the contractors building his new house
Creighton assistant Ryan Miller hired by Murray State.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2025, 09:02:37 AMI will say, if Medved can't find a modicum of success at Minnesota, then I'm not sure who can
Without academic fraud, you mean?
Johnson was hired with the thinking that despite his lack of HC experience he could get the local AAU programs to send their kids to the U and it didn't happen.
If they strike out on Medved another name to watch is Kimani Young, who was an assistant at UM under Pitino and has been with Danny Hurley as the associate HC for the past few years.
Do we think McDermott is at Creighton for good?
There are a few openings that seem like they would fit him well.
Quote from: DoctorV on March 13, 2025, 09:03:55 AMMaybe Shaka is ticked off at the contractors building his new house
Nope. Scoopers.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 13, 2025, 10:05:45 AMNope. Scoopers.
Heard he had a terrifying teeth cleaning experience.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 13, 2025, 09:57:40 AMDo we think McDermott is at Creighton for good?
There are a few openings that seem like they would fit him well.
I've seen his name attached to Indiana. Who knows if they want him and he is interested but articles I have read said Indiana is not going to break the bank for a coaching hire and lists him as a second-tier option.
I am curious to see how hires Will Wade. NC State?
Quote from: Big Papi on March 13, 2025, 11:00:47 AMI've seen his name attached to Indiana. Who knows if they want him and he is interested but articles I have read said Indiana is not going to break the bank for a coaching hire and lists him as a second-tier option.
I am curious to see how hires Will Wade. NC State?
Also, every time Indiana has a chance to hire someone Doug is listed. Yet, they never do the deal.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 13, 2025, 11:04:35 AMAlso, every time Indiana has a chance to hire someone Doug is listed. Yet, they never do the deal.
McDermott has become the Matt Campbell of MBB. The media doesn't give Creighton and the BE the respect both have earned, treating both as stepping stones (except for UConn) so they list McDermott for every opening (as we are seeing with Shaka right now as well).
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 13, 2025, 09:50:53 AMWithout academic fraud, you mean?
Johnson was hired with the thinking that despite his lack of HC experience he could get the local AAU programs to send their kids to the U and it didn't happen.
If they strike out on Medved another name to watch is Kimani Young, who was an assistant at UM under Pitino and has been with Danny Hurley as the associate HC for the past few years.
McCollum should be at the top of their list, but I hope they don't hire him.
Update on the Virginia job
https://jerryratcliffe.com/vcus-ryan-odom-jumps-to-top-of-uva-coaching-search/
QuoteMarquette's Shaka Smart was UVA's top target, but may be out of the picture.
One source, when asked what happened to Shaka, replied: "Shaka is focused on his current position." Normally that means, not interested. Thanks and goodbye.
Sounds like exactly what happened with jobs last year. Take the call, "thanks but no thanks".
Sure seems like Odom is/will be at the top of the list for both UVA and Nova. Which is the better job at this point?
Quote from: Its DJOver on March 13, 2025, 12:30:55 PMSure seems like Odom is/will be at the top of the list for both UVA and Nova. Which is the better job at this point?
It seems like he would rather have Villanova which I think is where the Shaka to UVA rumors may have originated.
UVA wants Odom, and he may want that job as well, but would prefer Villanova from the sound of it.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 13, 2025, 12:32:20 PMIt seems like he would rather have Villanova which I think is where the Shaka to UVA rumors may have originated.
UVA wants Odom, and he may want that job as well, but would prefer Villanova from the sound of it.
Article about coaching searches and why Villanova is an attractive choice.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/hiring-a-college-basketball-coach-is-costly-just-not-in-the-way-it-used-to-be/ar-AA1AQ6S8?ocid=BingNewsSerp
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/article/uva-basketball-coaching-search-tea-where-things-are-trending-transfer-portal-rumblings-246924005/
https://x.com/coachingchanges/status/1900246178370908452?s=46 (https://x.com/coachingchanges/status/1900246178370908452?s=46)
Later says another good source says Nova may be the job he prefers more, but this source is strong.
Odom to UVA would be an amazing story if it happens. Former ball boy when his dad was an assistant, beats them for the first 16-1 upset, then returns to try to get them back to glory.
Selfishly hope he goes to Nova as I think he's a great coach who has won everywhere. Also, has played the carousel brilliantly.
Didn't immediately jump to a terrible mid major/P5 job after the tourney run. Went to a stable winnable job at Utah St even if it seemed odd for an East Coast guy. Then goes back to the cradle of coaches for MM CBB (a VCU coach hasn't been fired in over 20 years and all coaches since 2002 have left for major conference coaching gigs). He makes either team a top 5 team in conference within 3 years IMO
Quote from: Its DJOver on March 13, 2025, 12:28:28 PMSounds like exactly what happened with jobs last year. Take the call, "thanks but no thanks".
Depends on Maya
Great, now we have to worry about the VCU opening.
Johnson fired at Minny.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 13, 2025, 09:01:36 AMNico Medved, welcome back to Dinkytown.
.
If Medved ends up at Minny, it would complete a pretty interesting career arc. After a 2 year stretch at Macalester, he got his first D1 assistant gig at Furman. Then spent time as an assistant at Minnesota and Colorado State before getting the Furman job. So he'd have been an assistant at only 3 D1 schools...and then went on to get the head job at all of them
They gonna give Neptune the weekend to pack his things? No way Dixon plays thr Crown.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 14, 2025, 12:35:59 AM.
If Medved ends up at Minny, it would complete a pretty interesting career arc. After a 2 year stretch at Macalester, he got his first D1 assistant gig at Furman. Then spent time as an assistant at Minnesota and Colorado State before getting the Furman job. So he'd have been an assistant at only 3 D1 schools...and then went on to get the head job at all of them
With a one year stop at Drake.
I've been told Brian Dutcher will be interviewing at Minnesota today. The guy is 65 but is a Minnesota grad and his dad was HC at Minnesota.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 14, 2025, 08:50:52 AMWith a one year stop at Drake.
I've been told Brian Dutcher will be interviewing at Minnesota today. The guy is 65 but is a Minnesota grad and his dad was HC at Minnesota.
Should have done that a couple years ago. Now?
Quote from: The Sultan on March 14, 2025, 08:54:26 AMShould have done that a couple years ago. Now?
Minnesota has never been accused of knowing what they were doing when it comes to hoops.
Dutcher would be a solid hire for them. Rick Pitino got hired at 70 by SJU. Give them 5 good years and it's worth it. Chances are if you get someone younger who is successful they leave in 5 years anyway.
Word on ESPn, McCafferty out at Iowa!!!
Quote from: Ardmore Mug on March 14, 2025, 01:47:28 PMWord on ESPn, McCafferty out at Iowa!!!
Could see that coming a mile away. Appropriately ejected in his last game where they played no defense.
Ben McCallum is an Iowa City native...
Quote from: The Sultan on March 14, 2025, 01:55:34 PMCould see that coming a mile away. Appropriately ejected in his last game where they played no defense.
Ben McCallum is an Iowa City native...
Jans from Miss ST from Iowa
DeVries from WVA probably favorite from Iowa
Then there is Will Wade.
Only recruit from Iowa who was offered by Shaka is Joshua Lewis, 6ft 7 from Tampa and a Top 50 recruit.
Bit of a bummer that it was an understated ejection.
Wardle2Iowa
Iowa = Shaka's dream job.
Quote from: Jables1604 on March 14, 2025, 02:54:34 PMWardle2Iowa
No, Wardle in line once Shaka leaves for Va
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2025, 02:02:43 PMJans from Miss ST from Iowa
DeVries from WVA probably favorite from Iowa
Then there is Will Wade.
Only recruit from Iowa who was offered by Shaka is Joshua Lewis, 6ft 7 from Tampa and a Top 50 recruit.
Isn't Lewis the guy who was going to USF until the coach died and eventually went to Iowa? I think he named Marquette as a finalist but Shaka hadn't actually been in contact with him for awhile.
I wonder what the odds are that Fran ends up as an assistant at Butler since all of his sons are there now?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 14, 2025, 04:15:39 PMI wonder what the odds are that Fran ends up as an assistant at Butler since all of his sons are there now?
Or with the Indiana Fever
Word out of Iowa is that the family was having some issues so this was a foregone conclusion.
Kyle Neptune officially gone.
Quote from: TheButlerDidIt on March 15, 2025, 10:24:26 AMKyle Neptune officially gone.
Well, his resume will look good with his victory over MU.
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2025, 02:02:43 PMJans from Miss ST from Iowa
DeVries from WVA probably favorite from Iowa
Then there is Will Wade.
Only recruit from Iowa who was offered by Shaka is Joshua Lewis, 6ft 7 from Tampa and a Top 50 recruit.
Jans hasn't coached in Iowa in more than 25 years and has no connection to U of Iowa. And given his baggage from the BG debacle, I doubt they want to deal with that. He's got a good thing going in Starkville and actually makes a decent amount more than Fran does.
I think Devries is a done deal if they want him, assume he would leap at it.
Will Wade to NC State seems like a very high possibility gaining a ton of steam already.
Kevin Kruger out at UNLV
Quote from: Oldgym on March 15, 2025, 09:55:27 PMKevin Kruger out at UNLV
Going to have to hire cheap:
https://frontofficesports.com/unlv-cant-afford-final-three-years-dan-mullen-contract/
https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/gophers-basketball/gophers-basketball-news/niko-medved-expected-hire-minnesota-mbb-coach/amp/
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 15, 2025, 10:17:25 PMGoing to have to hire cheap:
https://frontofficesports.com/unlv-cant-afford-final-three-years-dan-mullen-contract/
This job really is a hornet's nest. They don't have a lot of resources, but the memories of the good days make the fans think this is a better job than it really is - and expect results to be reflect that.
Furthermore, the Mountain West is going to be downgraded to a lower level when four of its top five teams from this season move to the Pac 12.
(I actually had to look this up because I couldn't remember who was joining the Pac 12 from the MWC. What a completely useless conference reallignment.)
Chris Collins to Nova would be interesting. He's done a very good job at NW.
Mick Cronin in play for Nova?
https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2025/03/a-big-name-dark-horse-is-in-the-mix-for-the-villanova-coaching-opening.html
Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2025, 09:32:49 AMMick Cronin in play for Nova?
https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2025/03/a-big-name-dark-horse-is-in-the-mix-for-the-villanova-coaching-opening.html
I read an article yesterday, and I am sorry but I can't remember who wrote it, that said that Villanova needs to go completely outside the "family" with this hire. Apparently Jay Wright was a bit of a micro-manager, which is likely why his coaching tree has been a dud and Neptune was never going to be able to keep it at Wright's level.
Cronin would be a GREAT get for Nova.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 17, 2025, 09:50:07 AMI read an article yesterday, and I am sorry but I can't remember who wrote it, that said that Villanova needs to go completely outside the "family" with this hire. Apparently Jay Wright was a bit of a micro-manager, which is likely why his coaching tree has been a dud and Neptune was never going to be able to keep it at Wright's level.
Cronin would be a GREAT get for Nova.
I would need to adjust my most disliked coaches list, but agree that would be a great get for Nova and the Big East.
Wow!
https://x.com/jeffborzello/status/1901651751507525925
Man, that guy was coaching a 16-seed Farleigh Dickinson over Purdue just two years ago.
Seems like the Rick Pitino era instilled some stupid expectations in New Rochelle.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2025, 10:40:31 AMSeems like the Rick Pitino era instilled some stupid expectations in New Rochelle.
Either that or the guy wasn't connecting with the boosters - the NIL language there seems to imply that.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 17, 2025, 10:41:49 AMEither that or the guy wasn't connecting with the boosters - the NIL language there seems to imply that.
Has to be that. Cause the entire team, literally the entire team, left when Pitino did. Anderson started completely fresh and got within a game of going back to the NCAA tourney.
And I don't even think its Pitino-fueled expectatios, cause they were making the tourney 6 out of 8 years and winning piles of conference titles under Cluess.
Speaking of Pitino, with Iona opening up, Steve Masiello's name is coming up and there are rumors that Rick is dictating that he's the coach in waiting at St Johns. While you don't say no to Pitino and worry only about the next few years of success under him, what an underwhelming hire would that be. His resume at Manhattan doesn't get him the job at St Joes, much less St Johns.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2025, 10:40:31 AMSeems like the Rick Pitino era instilled some stupid expectations in New Rochelle.
Even before Pitino Cluess had established high standards for Iona with 6 NCAA bids and 2 NIT bids the previous eight seasons (4 MAAC regular-season championships and 5 MAAC tournament titles). But only two years is crazy, especially since the current AD hired Anderson. There has to be something more that happened.
some rumblings that Steve Pikiell has emerged as the favorite at Nova.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2025, 02:55:30 PMsome rumblings that Steve Pikiell has emerged as the favorite at Nova.
My God that would be a terrible hire.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2025, 02:55:30 PMsome rumblings that Steve Pikiell has emerged as the favorite at Nova.
Indiana, Iowa, 'Nova...NC State open too, I believe. Should be interesting
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 17, 2025, 10:33:15 AMWow!
https://x.com/jeffborzello/status/1901651751507525925
Heard they want sleazey back.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 17, 2025, 10:34:18 AMMan, that guy was coaching a 16-seed Farleigh Dickinson over Purdue just two years ago.
I guess you could say, he was un-Farleigh fired.
Quote from: Viper on March 17, 2025, 03:01:54 PMIndiana, Iowa, 'Nova...NC State open too, I believe. Should be interesting
Marquette, after Shaka leaves for Virginia ...
Quote from: The Sultan on March 17, 2025, 03:00:49 PMMy God that would be a terrible hire.
2 years ago after the NIT, I'd still get it. Cause he was really good at Stony Brook and totally got Rutgers in the right direction and got recruiting cooking.
But how the hell do you go sub .500 with two top 3 picks? That makes going 30-33 the last 2 years even more egregious
Quote from: JWags85 on March 17, 2025, 05:25:37 PM2 years ago after the NIT, I'd still get it. Cause he was really good at Stony Brook and totally got Rutgers in the right direction and got recruiting cooking.
But how the hell do you go sub .500 with two top 3 picks? That makes going 30-33 the last 2 years even more egregious
Especially with Ace Bailey being quite adept at the mid range
Kyle Neptune to Iona
Wojo available
Not a surprise that DeVries is likely headed back to Iowa. If this happens it's an excellent hire for the Hawkeyes:
https://x.com/hoopsweiss/status/1901860470815879675?s=46&t=jikm5nKg-NlIUjy2c9C9zw
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 18, 2025, 09:26:20 AMNot a surprise that DeVries is likely headed back to Iowa. If this happens it's an excellent hire for the Hawkeyes:
https://x.com/hoopsweiss/status/1901860470815879675?s=46&t=jikm5nKg-NlIUjy2c9C9zw
In related news, the state of West Virginia has launched an investigation into the state of Iowa.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 18, 2025, 09:34:23 AMIn related news, the state of West Virginia has launched an investigation into the state of Iowa.
Or an investigation into the state of Indiana. There are strong rumors that IU has their guy "locked up" and it's somebody not coaching right now. That could mean DeVries since WVU's season is done, Chris Mack, or someone not a current coach.
I'm glad the state of West Virginia has no other issues going on that the Mountaineers not making the NCAA tourney can move to the top of the list of governmental priorities.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 18, 2025, 10:17:58 AMOr an investigation into the state of Indiana. There are strong rumors that IU has their guy "locked up" and it's somebody not coaching right now. That could mean DeVries since WVU's season is done, Chris Mack, or someone not a current coach.
I'm glad the state of West Virginia has no other issues going on that the Mountaineers not making the NCAA tourney can move to the top of the list of governmental priorities.
BRAD STEVENS IS FINALLY RETURNING TO COLLEGE BALL!!!
But seriously, maybe its Will Wade...or Steve Alford... 8-)
Quote from: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 10:24:25 AMBRAD STEVENS IS FINALLY RETURNING TO COLLEGE BALL!!!
But seriously, maybe its Will Wade...or Steve Alford... 8-)
Some IU fans are still trying to convince themselves it's going to happen, LOL.
It wouldn't be Wade since he's still coaching, if the rumors are true. Also, IU's president is a woman and she put the immediate kibosh on Chris Beard's candidacy.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 18, 2025, 10:27:29 AMSome IU fans are still trying to convince themselves it's going to happen, LOL.
It wouldn't be Wade since he's still coaching, if the rumors are true. Also, IU's president is a woman and she put the immediate kibosh on Chris Beard's candidacy.
Kyle Neptune 2 IU
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 18, 2025, 10:27:29 AMSome IU fans are still trying to convince themselves it's going to happen, LOL.
It wouldn't be Wade since he's still coaching, if the rumors are true. Also, IU's president is a woman and she put the immediate kibosh on Chris Beard's candidacy.
I forgot he was at McNeese.
Maybe its Crean.
Isiah Thomas is coming home.
Seems like Devries is gonna be the guy for IU. Removed himself from consideration at Iowa and Indiana said they are announcing pre-tournament so it would be a non-active coach.
Gotta think Iowa is beyond all-in for McCollum now.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2025, 04:36:35 PMSeems like Devries is gonna be the guy for IU.
#donedeal
Quote from: Pakuni on March 18, 2025, 04:54:39 PM#donedeal
Absolutely. Hawkeye fans are drooling and that is the only guy they want.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2025, 04:36:35 PMSeems like Devries is gonna be the guy for IU. Removed himself from consideration at Iowa and Indiana said they are announcing pre-tournament so it would be a non-active coach.
Gotta think Iowa is beyond all-in for McCollum now.
https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1902115216793489817?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Quote from: MuMark on March 18, 2025, 05:11:24 PMhttps://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1902115216793489817?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Excellent. Bullet dodged on the Wardle and Moser front.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2025, 04:36:35 PMSeems like Devries is gonna be the guy for IU. Removed himself from consideration at Iowa and Indiana said they are announcing pre-tournament so it would be a non-active coach.
Gotta think Iowa is beyond all-in for McCollum now.
Wow. I didn't see that one coming.
Breaking with recent tradition, nicely done search and result for IU. Quick and quiet, no nonsense reports or talk of absurd reach candidates, and got one of the most desired candidates out there. And put a thumb in the eye of a conference rival whilst doing so.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2025, 07:05:19 PMBreaking with recent tradition, nicely done search and result for IU. Quick and quiet, no nonsense reports or talk of absurd reach candidates, and got one of the most desired candidates out there. And put a thumb in the eye of a conference rival whilst doing so.
Really wish Rocket was here to tell us Scott Drew was taking the job and Goose telling us we'd look foolish for doubting him
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 18, 2025, 07:47:30 PMReally wish Rocket was here
You are a true contrarian.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2025, 07:05:19 PMBreaking with recent tradition, nicely done search and result for IU. Quick and quiet, no nonsense reports or talk of absurd reach candidates, and got one of the most desired candidates out there. And put a thumb in the eye of a conference rival whilst doing so.
Then again, it was pretty clear they would be moving on from Woodson within the next year or two if they kept him around after last season. And it was very clear that Dusty May would be taking a P5 job last offseason, and you'd have to assume Indiana was his dream job. Now he's killing it for their conference rival.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 18, 2025, 08:48:07 PMThen again, it was pretty clear they would be moving on from Woodson within the next year or two if they kept him around after last season. And it was very clear that Dusty May would be taking a P5 job last offseason, and you'd have to assume Indiana was his dream job. Now he's killing it for their conference rival.
If Indiana was truly his dream job, he could have moved there this year if IU was actually interested.
I think being an alumnus is decreasingly important in why someone takes a job. Compensation for themselves and their staff, NIL resources, facilities, relationships with AD, etc. are all more important.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 09:04:16 PMIf Indiana was truly his dream job, he could have moved there this year if IU was actually interested.
I think being an alumnus is decreasingly important in why someone takes a job. Compensation for themselves and their staff, NIL resources, facilities, relationships with AD, etc. are all more important.
No doubt. But I think if Dusty was moving away from FAU he takes the IU job over the Michigan job. Now that he's at Michigan it's easier to just stay put at this point.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 18, 2025, 05:51:03 PMExcellent. Bullet dodged on the Wardle and Moser front.
I hear governor sues
Odom to UVA instead of Villanova it would appear.
https://x.com/trillydonovan2/status/1902205043954106456?t=lYHv1s8L3QeDuTUgb69P0A&s=19
Where does Nova look next?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2025, 11:01:20 PMOdom to UVA instead of Villanova it would appear.
https://x.com/trillydonovan2/status/1902205043954106456?t=lYHv1s8L3QeDuTUgb69P0A&s=19
Where does Nova look next?
Shaka Smart-Odom?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2025, 11:01:20 PMOdom to UVA instead of Villanova it would appear.
You're trying too hard, as usual. Lol
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2025, 12:42:16 AMYou're trying to hard, as usual. Lol
Per usual? Lol. What?
That has nothing to do with me. If Trilly says Odom to UVA, it's as believable as it gets.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2025, 12:46:01 AMPer usual? Lol. What?
That has nothing to do with me. If Trilly says Odom to UVA, it's as believable as it gets.
Then I think you don't know your sources.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2025, 07:05:19 PMBreaking with recent tradition, nicely done search and result for IU. Quick and quiet, no nonsense reports or talk of absurd reach candidates, and got one of the most desired candidates out there. And put a thumb in the eye of a conference rival whilst doing so.
Yes. The Hawkeye faithful were not quick enough to the draw. Maybe they will go after Reekers all time fave, Wardle
That would give Reeker much to be joyous and to talk about. After all, Iowa is a much higher profile than Bradley
Meanwhile, is Shaka looking anywhere? Or still recruiting the high school ranks for a developmental banger.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 18, 2025, 09:04:16 PMIf Indiana was truly his dream job, he could have moved there this year if IU was actually interested.
I think being an alumnus is decreasingly important in why someone takes a job. Compensation for themselves and their staff, NIL resources, facilities, relationships with AD, etc. are all more important.
IU was his dream job but they passed on him last year in favor of running it back with Woodson. IU missed its window with May and he remembered them telling him to wait.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2025, 12:47:51 AMThen I think you don't know your sources.
Sources?
What are you even talking about?
😂
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2025, 11:01:20 PMOdom to UVA instead of Villanova it would appear.
https://x.com/trillydonovan2/status/1902205043954106456?t=lYHv1s8L3QeDuTUgb69P0A&s=19
Where does Nova look next?
Chris Collins' name is picking up a lot of momentum for the job. He and Mick Cronin seem to be the favorites right now.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 19, 2025, 08:38:44 AMChris Collins' name is picking up a lot of momentum for the job. He and Mick Cronin seem to be the favorites right now.
Mick would be interesting.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 19, 2025, 08:38:44 AMChris Collins' name is picking up a lot of momentum for the job. He and Mick Cronin seem to be the favorites right now.
Collins has done well at NU considering the challenges of that job. He kind of scares me as the next Nova coach. Scares as in he could be really good.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2025, 12:46:01 AMPer usual? Lol. What?
That has nothing to do with me. If Trilly says Odom to UVA, it's as believable as it gets.
#donedeal
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2025, 08:36:25 AMSources?
What are you even talking about?
You interpreted "Trilly"'s post as saying Odom was going to UVA. That was your source. Get it?
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 19, 2025, 08:43:08 AMCollins has done well at NU considering the challenges of that job. He kind of scares me as the next Nova coach. Scares as in he could be really good.
He's done ok. NU has been putting resources into the program under his tenure. This is not the same job that KO had.
I think Collins would be a decent hire for Nova. But hey, if you want to get scared about the future, Scoop is definitely the place to be.
Quote from: RJax55 on March 19, 2025, 08:56:52 AMHe's done ok. NU has been putting resources into the program under his tenure. This is not the same job that KO had.
I think Collins would be a decent hire for Nova. But hey, if you want to get scared about the future, Scoop is definitely the place to be.
Not just the future. The present as well.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 19, 2025, 09:03:18 AMNot just the future. The present as well.
The present has already been written off.
Quote from: RJax55 on March 19, 2025, 09:31:02 AMThe present has already been written off.
So? Doesn't mean we can't be scared of it here. And many are.
And what makes you think it has been written off? Not on Scoop it hasn't. Scoopers also worry about the past.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2025, 08:52:02 AMYou interpreted "Trilly"'s post as saying Odom was going to UVA. That was your source. Get it?
That's not an interpretation. That's just flat out what he is saying.
He isn't like some secret source. He's been tweeting correct info for years.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2025, 09:56:58 AMThat's not an interpretation. That's just flat out what he is saying.
"OK"
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2025, 07:05:19 PMBreaking with recent tradition, nicely done search and result for IU. Quick and quiet, no nonsense reports or talk of absurd reach candidates, and got one of the most desired candidates out there. And put a thumb in the eye of a conference rival whilst doing so.
I 3
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 19, 2025, 09:03:18 AMNot just the future. The present as well.
And of Milwaukee
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 19, 2025, 09:54:43 AMSo? Doesn't mean we can't be scared of it here. And many are.
And what makes you think it has been written off? Not on Scoop it hasn't. Scoopers also worry about the past.
Some scoopers have been stuck in the past for a long time
If this all means we're stuck with Shaka, I don't like it. Four cruddy seasons, horrible trends, no bangers and mash, recruits HS kids ... ugh. Plus he's not traditional. Marquette really screwed the pooch this time.
https://x.com/rcorysmith/status/1902432738050760949?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
It sounds like Wade had already discussed this with his current players, so they wouldn't be blindsided by the news.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2025, 02:24:13 PMIt sounds like Wade had already discussed this with his current players, so they wouldn't be blindsided by the news.
You can do that?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2025, 02:24:13 PMIt sounds like Wade had already discussed this with his current players, so they wouldn't be blindsided by the news.
I hope whoever the AD at McNeese State is says "A McNeese man will coach McNeese" and that he fires Wade, just as McNeese makes a run to the championship. Bo Schembechler would like that.
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2025, 11:55:16 AMIf this all means we're stuck with Shaka, I don't like it. Four cruddy seasons, horrible trends, no bangers and mash, recruits HS kids ... ugh. Plus he's not traditional. Marquette really screwed the pooch this time.
Forgot about the lack of jump shooters & mid range shooters
The Wolfpack made a strong a-- offer.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2025, 03:14:20 PMThe Wolfpack made a strong a-- offer.
You mean the Willfpack
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 18, 2025, 09:46:59 PMI hear governor sues
I hope the governor immediately starts and investigation to get to the bottom of this:
https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/board/103746/contents/indiana-told-tucker-not-play--247287660/?page=1
They may need Scully and Mulder to get to the bottom of this grand conspiracy:
https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/board/103746/contents/devries-deal-was-done-in-february--247273173/?page=1
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 19, 2025, 06:23:46 PMI hope the governor immediately starts and investigation to get to the bottom of this:
https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/board/103746/contents/indiana-told-tucker-not-play--247287660/?page=1
They may need Scully and Mulder to get to the bottom of this grand conspiracy:
https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/board/103746/contents/devries-deal-was-done-in-february--247273173/?page=1
West Virginia never has a normal coaching transition.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 19, 2025, 06:44:06 PMWest Virginia never has a normal coaching transition.
Couches are burning
Huggy could come back?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2025, 07:51:00 PMHuggy could come back?
If any school would hire a 71 year old drunk, it would be West Virginia.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 19, 2025, 07:53:58 PMIf any school would hire a 71 year old drunk, it would be West Virginia.
Mike Deane is on Line 1
Fordham fires Urgo. Wonder if Neptune goes back there.
Coaching Changes reporting rumors of Sean Miller to Texas.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 20, 2025, 10:54:59 AMCoaching Changes reporting rumors of Sean Miller to Texas.
Lol
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 20, 2025, 10:54:59 AMCoaching Changes reporting rumors of Sean Miller to Texas.
Old money watched the game last night and said to themselves, "We want the guy who just beat us" despite the fact they were in a play in game?
They went from the Elite 8, to the Round of 32 to out in the First Four in his three years. He's been a dead man walking all season.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 20, 2025, 11:10:38 AMOld money watched the game last night and said to themselves, "We want the guy who just beat us" despite the fact they were in a play in game?
I think lol would be and in the appropriate response because of that and Sean Miller using Xavier to rehabilitate himself.
Know who would be at the top of the list to replace him? Chris Mack
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 20, 2025, 10:54:40 AMFordham fires Urgo. Wonder if Neptune goes back there.
Urgo got caught cheating and still lost. Ergo...
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 20, 2025, 10:54:59 AMCoaching Changes reporting rumors of Sean Miller to Texas.
Heard Fanta is also reporting this. "Xavier will pay him money to keep him, but Texas has more money."
If I was TX, would pay McDermott big money. He is a great tactician and produces in March.
Quote from: Captain Quette on March 20, 2025, 02:04:36 PMIf I was TX, would pay McDermott big money. He is a great tactician and produces in March.
I wonder if McDermott isn't a Mark Few-ish guy who just likes where he is, knows he can succeed there, and enjoys the relative lack of pressure while still making plenty of $$$.
If I were him, it wouldn't be easy for me to leave a situation like Creighton. It's his own personal fiefdom.
Who knows? Maybe he's already talked to Shaka, not necessarily about the Texas job but about appreciating that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere.
Quote from: Captain Quette on March 20, 2025, 02:04:36 PMIf I was TX, would pay McDermott big money. He is a great tactician and produces in March.
What? Some smart one here does not think Creighton is very good.
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 02:11:37 PMI wonder if McDermott isn't a Mark Few-ish guy who just likes where he is, knows he can succeed there, and enjoys the relative lack of pressure while still making plenty of $$$.
If I were him, it wouldn't be easy for me to leave a situation like Creighton. It's his own personal fiefdom.
Who knows? Maybe he's already talked to Shaka, not necessarily about the Texas job but about appreciating that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere.
Plus he's already had some experience with that situation.....going from Northern Iowa to Iowa State......obviously a very understandable move........but it didn't go well and he found a soft landing at Creighton 4 years later.
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 02:11:37 PMIf I were him, it wouldn't be easy for me to leave a situation like Creighton. It's his own personal fiefdom.
He's the Master of the Creighton plantation.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 20, 2025, 02:20:59 PMWhat? Some smart one here does not think Creighton is very good.
No one said this.
Quote from: MuMark on March 20, 2025, 02:24:05 PMPlus he's already had some experience with that situation.....going from Northern Iowa to Iowa State......obviously a very understandable move........but it didn't go well and he found a soft landing at Creighton 4 years later.
Great point.
Sometimes - not all that often, but sometimes - coaches like Mark Few, Jay Wright, Bob McKillop, etc, are so content where they are that they don't pursue jobs that are supposedly "better."
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 02:11:37 PMI wonder if McDermott isn't a Mark Few-ish guy who just likes where he is, knows he can succeed there, and enjoys the relative lack of pressure while still making plenty of $$$.
If I were him, it wouldn't be easy for me to leave a situation like Creighton. It's his own personal fiefdomplantation.
Who knows? Maybe he's already talked to Shaka, not necessarily about the Texas job but about appreciating that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere.
You were so close.
But honestly, I agree. Why leave? He's making the big bucks, he has tournament success. He seems to be happy where he is. Texas is an overrated job where expectations are nuts.
That Will Wade higher is looking like a good call
Very likely McDermott coaches for the next few years and retires to golf full time.
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2025, 03:07:58 PMThat Will Wade higher is looking like a good call
Or is it Indiana's decision not to pursue Brownwell that's looking good?
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2025, 03:07:58 PMThat Will Wade higher is looking like a good call
Indeed
Unless NC ST is on probation 5 years from now.
Stay tuned.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 20, 2025, 03:42:30 PMIndeed
Unless NC ST is on probation 5 years from now.
Stay tuned.
lol. For what? Everything is legal now.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 20, 2025, 03:26:47 PMVery likely McDermott coaches for the next few years and retires to golf full time.
Obviously, neither of us is in his brain ... but that sounds like a pretty damn good plan!
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 03:49:06 PMObviously, neither of us is in his brain ... but that sounds like a pretty damn good plan!
Works for me.
Some rumors out there that Kevin Willard has been offered the Villanova job, but he may be angling for more resources at Maryland. But their AD looks like he might be heading to SMU.
Why would McDermott leave? Well, he wouldn't have to live in Omaha, NE anymore for one.
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2025, 03:07:58 PMThat Will Wade higher is looking like a good call
*Creed voice*
https://x.com/john_fanta/status/1902848581830320587?s=46
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 20, 2025, 08:04:29 PMhttps://x.com/john_fanta/status/1902848581830320587?s=46
Irony......guy in the ncaa tournament who was bought out by NC State talking about another school doing the same......
McCollum is going to make so much money.
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2025, 08:08:59 PMMcCollum is going to make so much money.
Iowa shouldn't overthink this.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 20, 2025, 03:45:45 PMlol. For what? Everything is legal now.
Not to mention the actual details of his infractions are pretty mild. He's a damn good coach and, labels related to the infraction aside, supposed to be a pretty good dude and a very player-forward coach.
Also, its great to be able to bring up rumors from Coaching Changes here and not have a certain past know-it-all immediately pop up and say they aren't a good source.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 20, 2025, 08:10:46 PMIowa shouldn't overthink this.
Iowa has nil challenges. They might have to settle.
https://hawkfanatic.com/2025/03/19/lack-of-nil-resources-making-iowas-search-for-new-mens-basketball-coach-more-difficult/
Quote from: MuMark on March 20, 2025, 08:08:27 PMIrony......guy in the ncaa tournament who was bought out by NC State talking about another school doing the same......
Effen classic. These coaches know no limits to their hypocrisy.
Quote from: MuMark on March 20, 2025, 08:08:27 PMIrony......guy in the ncaa tournament who was bought out by NC State talking about another school doing the same......
I'm assuming that's why he said it. He was skirting blame
Quote from: Big Papi on March 20, 2025, 08:20:50 PMIowa has nil challenges. They might have to settle.
https://hawkfanatic.com/2025/03/19/lack-of-nil-resources-making-iowas-search-for-new-mens-basketball-coach-more-difficult/
Not surprising. They are very behind in all sorts of ways following the Barta era there.
Quote from: MuMark on March 20, 2025, 08:08:27 PMIrony......guy in the ncaa tournament who was bought out by NC State talking about another school doing the same......
Lol.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 20, 2025, 05:42:52 PMWhy would McDermott leave? Well, he wouldn't have to live in Omaha, NE anymore for one.
I've never been to Omaha but some people seem to love it. One of the world's richest men has lived in the same house there for the last 67 years.
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2025, 08:34:03 PMI've never been to Omaha but some people seem to love it. One of the world's richest men has lived in the same house there for the last 67 years.
Mortgage rates impacting the housing market ........
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2025, 08:08:59 PMMcCollum is going to make so much money.
Oops. Spending money at the moment.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 20, 2025, 10:54:59 AMCoaching Changes reporting rumors of Sean Miller to Texas.
I had heard a few weeks ago from a knowledgeable source that Miller was looking to make a move. Makes sense since coaches from basketball only schools will be looking at jobs at one of the power football conference schools. Better pay, NIL money and better chance to play in the tournament.
Nm
Quote from: MU1in77 on March 20, 2025, 08:54:08 PMI had heard a few weeks ago from a knowledgeable source that Miller was looking to make a move. Makes sense since coaches from basketball only schools will be looking at jobs at one of the power football conference schools. Better pay, NIL money and better chance to play in the tournament.
this isn't necessarily true.
Hey - I was transferred from Milwaukee to Des Moines for a brief time and then Omaha. Been here since 1977. Nice affordable town with a metro area of a million. Stop by sometime wadesworld. I'll show you around.
In Seattle, we've been looking at 1,500 SF houses that need work for the bargain price of $1M to $1.25M.
On a couple of the house-hunting outings, I was wishing my daughter, SIL and grandkids had moved to a place like Omaha!
There's a reason Omaha is affordable.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 20, 2025, 10:09:06 PMThere's a reason Omaha is affordable.
Counting Crows has a lot to say.
https://youtu.be/O1RsswsO10M?si=8gu9gmG1U6joBALa
Quote from: wadesworld on March 20, 2025, 10:09:06 PMThere's a reason Omaha is affordable.
If you think Omaha is bad you should see the rest of the state.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 20, 2025, 08:10:46 PMIowa shouldn't overthink this.
Iowa ain't gonna get him.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 06:23:49 AMIowa ain't gonna get him.
Well, the only other big jobs open are Virginia and West Virginia. UVa looks like it is going to Odom, although we will see I guess, and WVU probably has less resources than Iowa.
The Iowa AD better be working the phones on NIL $$$ regardless of the candidate however.
Iowa
Cons:
- Pretty far from anything besides Cedar Rapids
- Not much NIL
- Lost the Music City Bowl
Pros:
- Steve Alford isn't there anymore
- Great place to go when you don't get into Michigan, Illinois or Wisconsin
- Cooper DeJean pick six off Mahomes in the Super Bowl
This is a tough one. Arrow pointing sideways for now.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 08:15:19 AMWell, the only other big jobs open are Virginia and West Virginia. UVa looks like it is going to Odom, although we will see I guess, and WVU probably has less resources than Iowa.
The Iowa AD better be working the phones on NIL $$$ regardless of the candidate however.
Are you assuming Nova had someone picked already?
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 21, 2025, 08:47:21 AMAre you assuming Nova had someone picked already?
Yes, but that was probably not a wise conclusion on my part. I guess I never thought that McCollum could end of there but maybe?
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 08:15:19 AMWell, the only other big jobs open are Virginia and West Virginia. UVa looks like it is going to Odom, although we will see I guess, and WVU probably has less resources than Iowa.
The Iowa AD better be working the phones on NIL $$$ regardless of the candidate however.
Minnesota, Virginia, Villanova
Texas may be open as well... Maybe Xavier.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 09:08:09 AMMinnesota, Virginia, Villanova
Texas may be open as well... Maybe Xavier.
I think Minnesota is zeroing in on Medved, but they have just as many NIL issues anyway. Xavier isn't outbidding any B10 team.
I guess we will see.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 21, 2025, 05:53:17 AMIf you think Omaha is bad you should see the rest of the state.
Can't live in a triple landlocked state. Need to know where the exits are.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 09:09:42 AMI think Minnesota is zeroing in on Medved, but they have just as many NIL issues anyway. Xavier isn't outbidding any B10 team.
I guess we will see.
Fair, but if it was me, I'd choose Virginia, Villanova, or Texas over Iowa every day of the week.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 21, 2025, 05:53:17 AMIf you think Omaha is bad you should see the rest of the state.
Don't disagree with you on that. When people ask where I live I say Omaha, not Nebraska.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 09:25:08 AMFair, but if it was me, I'd choose Virginia, Villanova, or Texas over Iowa every day of the week.
As would I. But I am not sure he is going to be offered any of those jobs.
My statement about not overthinking was that he is right at the "Iowa level" right now, and instead of chasing someone else, they should zero in on him.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 21, 2025, 09:28:57 AMDon't disagree with you on that. When people ask where I live I say Omaha, not Nebraska.
Spent some time in Omaha, and it's not great but I'd live there any day of the week over places like Urbana, IL, West Lafayette or Madison. There is sneaky big money in Omaha and it is decent place all things considered.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 21, 2025, 09:42:30 AMSpent some time in Omaha, and it's not great but I'd live there any day of the week over places like Urbana, IL, West Lafayette or Madison. There is sneaky big money in Omaha and it is decent place all things considered.
Made sense until you included Madison.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 09:49:20 AMMade sense until you included Madison.
I'm not from Wisconsin. As an impartial observer who has spent time in Omaha and Madison, Omaha wins quite easily. Omaha has a better airport, zoo, arts, downtown, dinning, business community, College WS and weather. Madison maybe better schools and healthcare.
Look, these are all subjective opinions. There are people who think North Platte, NE beats NYC.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 21, 2025, 10:16:15 AMI'm not from Wisconsin. As an impartial observer who has spent time in Omaha and Madison, Omaha wins quite easily. Omaha has a better airport, zoo, arts, downtown, dinning, business community, College WS and weather. Madison maybe better schools and healthcare.
"I was going to move to Madison for a better job, but turned it down because I can't live without Omaha's elephant display."
Seriously the Madison Zoo isn't great, but I think its because there are much better things to do in Madison than hang out at a f*cking zoo...
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 21, 2025, 10:16:15 AMI'm not from Wisconsin. As an impartial observer who has spent time in Omaha and Madison, Omaha wins quite easily. Omaha has a better airport, zoo, arts, downtown, dinning, business community, College WS and weather. Madison maybe better schools and healthcare.
Look, these are all subjective opinions. There are people who think North Platte, NE beats NYC.
Look man, your opinion is your own, but Madison has an amazing airport and the dining scene absolutely shits on Omaha. There are a couple of James Beard winning chefs in town.
If you haven't been to Madison in a long time, you should come check it out. It's actually a really beautiful city despite it being the home of the Badgers.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 10:24:11 AM"I was going to move to Madison for a better job, but turned it down because I can't live without Omaha's elephant display."
Seriously the Madison Zoo isn't great, but I think its because there are much better things to do in Madison than hang out at a f*cking zoo...
Plus the zoo is FREE
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 10:26:29 AMPlus the zoo is FREE
Yes.
Maybe I'm just scarred from my Madison childhood when my mom would pack up lunch and take us to the zoo to see the same sad animals a couple times a summer.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 10:30:43 AMYes.
Maybe I'm just scarred from my Madison childhood when my mom would pack up lunch and take us to the zoo to see the same sad animals a couple times a summer.
It's gotten a little better, but IMO some of the enclosures are a bit too small. They recently redid the entire bear area and it is way less depressing.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 10:32:26 AMIt's gotten a little better, but IMO some of the enclosures are a bit too small. They recently redid the entire bear area and it is way less depressing.
See? F*ck you Omaha!!
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 10:32:26 AMIt's gotten a little better, but IMO some of the enclosures are a bit too small. They recently redid the entire bear area and it is way less depressing.
Plus, since this is a zoo thread now, no zoos should have elephant exhibits in Anno Domini 2025. Madison retired their last elephant to sanctuary in 2000. Shout out The Elephant Sanctuary in TN.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 10:26:10 AMLook man, your opinion is your own, but Madison has an amazing airport and the dining scene absolutely shits on Omaha. There are a couple of James Beard winning chefs in town.
If you haven't been to Madison in a long time, you should come check it out. It's actually a really beautiful city despite it being the home of the Badgers.
I didn't mean to open a can of worms and my comment wasn't intended to say Madison is a bad town. I have been to Madison 3 times in the past two years.
I like Madison.
IMO, and just mine, its a little to small for me. Omaha is also too small for me, but it is a bigger city with the benefits, and pitfalls, than places like Madison don't have.
I have family in Madison who really like it especially for raising families. But, they travel frequently to Milwaukee and Chicago for cultural events. They also express frustrations in getting direct flights from Madison beyond the Midwest.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 10:24:11 AM"I was going to move to Madison for a better job, but turned it down because I can't live without Omaha's elephant display."
Seriously the Madison Zoo isn't great, but I think its because there are much better things to do in Madison than hang out at a f*cking zoo...
Your overall point remains, but I'm pretty sure Omaha is one of the absolute top zoos in the country, so I get why its brought up as a highlight for Omaha, even if its a bit silly to compare it to smaller cities where that's not a draw.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 21, 2025, 11:01:10 AMI didn't mean to open a can of worms and my comment wasn't intended to say Madison is a bad town. I have been to Madison 3 times in the past two years. I like Madison.
IMO, and just mine, its a little to small for me. Omaha is also too small for me, but it is a bigger city with the benefits, and pitfalls, than places like Madison don't have.
I have family in Madison who really like it especially for raising families. But, they travel frequently to Milwaukee and Chicago for cultural events. They also express frustrations in getting direct flights from Madison beyond the Midwest.
They're silly. I can get direct flights to NYC, DC, LA, Tampa, Orlando, FM, Miami, AZ etc. I'm not sure Omaha is a hub either. ;)
Either way, I don't disagree that Madison isn't comparable to MKE or Chicago... but it certainly is at least as nice as Omaha, and not anywhere as backwater as West Lafayette or Urbana.
There are major concerts, the Overture Center (Broadway type musical tours), plus the lakes/downtown/festivals every weekend... if that's not enough for you it's an hour drive to MKE or two and a half hours to Chicago. Something that can't be said about Omaha.
I'm not suggesting that Madison is a world class city, but it is a really nice place to live for its size.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 21, 2025, 11:14:12 AMEither way, I don't disagree that Madison isn't comparable to MKE or Chicago... but it certainly is at least as nice as Omaha, and not anywhere as backwater as West Lafayette or Urbana.
Fair enough. I think both Madison and Omaha are good places that most coaches would be happy to be at.
Omahuh?!
Lawrence and Bloomington offer precious little, but most college basketball coaches not already at a blueblood would happily go to those towns to work.
This silly conversation all started because wades joked about Omaha being a reason McDermott might want out of Creighton. I'm pretty sure it isn't; and I'm pretty sure wades knows that. For all any of us know, McDermott might consider living in Omaha to be a benefit of the Creighton job.
He's got it awfully good there.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 10:41:45 AMSee? F*ck you Omaha!!
According to this very definitive article I found via Google, Madison's crap hole zoo doesn't even crack the top 26 zoos in the U.S.
https://travel.usnews.com/gallery/the-best-zoos-in-the-us?onepage (https://travel.usnews.com/gallery/the-best-zoos-in-the-us?onepage)
It looks like Villanova struck out on Chris Collins, who is getting a new deal from Northwestern.
Who's next on their list? Try for Ryan Odom? Mid-major?
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 21, 2025, 01:42:59 PMIt looks like Villanova struck out on Chris Collins, who is getting a new deal from Northwestern.
Who's next on their list? Try for Ryan Odom? Mid-major?
Mick Cronin if what Will Wade is inferring is correct.
I was thinking about this last night, a school in a situation like Seton Hall in the NIL era could honestly do WAY worse than a hire like Wojo instead of chasing a Cinderella coach from a flash in the pan run.
At what point is good recruits with minimal upside of strategy "good enough" for the investment some programs are willing to put in.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 21, 2025, 02:21:51 PMMick Cronin if what Will Wade is inferring is correct.
I think it's Kevin Willard
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 21, 2025, 02:24:38 PMI was thinking about this last night, a school in a situation like Seton Hall in the NIL era could honestly do WAY worse than a hire like Wojo instead of chasing a Cinderella coach from a flash in the pan run.
Shaheen was also an assistant coach at SHU for nearly a decade and did a lot of good work building St. Peter's. He also won the NIT last year.
Not saying he's a great coach, but I tend to think stories about how bad their NIL situation is are fairly accurate.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 21, 2025, 02:24:38 PMI was thinking about this last night, a school in a situation like Seton Hall in the NIL era could honestly do WAY worse than a hire like Wojo instead of chasing a Cinderella coach from a flash in the pan run.
At what point is good recruits with minimal upside of strategy "good enough" for the investment some programs are willing to put in.
FWIW, my Seton Hall alum friend told me last weekend he learned the school is supposedly kicking up NIL from $1.5mil to $5mil for next season. Not sure of the validity or any specifics.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 02:36:04 PMShaheen was also an assistant coach at SHU for nearly a decade and did a lot of good work building St. Peter's. He also won the NIT last year.
Not saying he's a great coach, but I tend to think stories about how bad their NIL situation is are fairly accurate.
Maybe, but that team wasn't going to be contending for anything if Richmond stayed either. Just not sure his strengths lend to success in a situation like this.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 21, 2025, 09:28:57 AMDon't disagree with you on that. When people ask where I live I say Omaha, not Nebraska.
Try the Mexican food in Columbus. Some of the best authentic stuff I've had outside of Mexico.
Quote from: swoopem on March 21, 2025, 02:25:16 PMI think it's Kevin Willard
Some smoke around Porter Moser's name too.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 21, 2025, 03:43:31 PMSome smoke around Porter Moser's name too.
Now that would be interesting.
One would think a smallish, city, Catholic school would be more in his wheelhouse than an SEC football school, but who knows.
Why do I get the impression that the source of the Porter Moser rumors is Porter Moser.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 04:15:28 PMWhy do I get the impression that the source of the Porter Moser rumors is Porter Moser.
Wrong! Sister Jean.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 04:15:28 PMWhy do I get the impression that the source of the Porter Moser rumors is Porter Moser.
He's getting some offers in hand to negotiate with Marquette when Shaka arrives in Charlottesville. Smart
Odom will be the next coach at Virginia.
https://bsky.app/profile/norlander.bsky.social/post/3lkw73wyods2j
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 04:53:08 PMOdom will be the next coach at Virginia.
https://bsky.app/profile/norlander.bsky.social/post/3lkw73wyods2j
Obviously Shaka didn't make the cut
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 21, 2025, 05:36:43 PMObviously Shaka didn't make the cut
Shaka must be holding out for Virginia Texh.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 04:53:08 PMOdom will be the next coach at Virginia.
https://bsky.app/profile/norlander.bsky.social/post/3lkw73wyods2j
#donedeal
Coaching Changes appeared to rumor Smart to USF. No way that's true.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 22, 2025, 12:00:39 PMCoaching Changes appeared to rumor Smart to USF. No way that's true.
Dave Smart of Pacific?
On discord, Trilly Donovan said he'd heard some donors at Villanova were pushing for Shaka. Would be stunned if it happened, don't think it'll happen, but just wanted to pass along.
Quote from: onepost on March 22, 2025, 10:44:44 PMOn discord, Trilly Donovan said he'd heard some donors at Villanova were pushing for Shaka. Would be stunned if it happened, don't think it'll happen, but just wanted to pass along.
Uh oh, that's scary
Quote from: onepost on March 22, 2025, 10:44:44 PMOn discord, Trilly Donovan said he'd heard some donors at Villanova were pushing for Shaka. Would be stunned if it happened, don't think it'll happen, but just wanted to pass along.
Ah yes, exactly what Shaka wants. A bunch of boosters telling him what to do.
The overwhelming sentiment from Trilly, Villanova fans there seems to be "this is a wild rumor, doubt it happens". But at least we're not completely caught off guard if it gains any traction.
Quote from: onepost on March 22, 2025, 10:44:44 PMOn discord, Trilly Donovan said he'd heard some donors at Villanova were pushing for Shaka. Would be stunned if it happened, don't think it'll happen, but just wanted to pass along.
Now that would be funny.
Ben McCollum to marquette?
Quote from: jfp61 on March 23, 2025, 12:16:00 AMBen McCollum to marquette?
He already finalized with Iowa.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2025, 12:21:25 AMHe already finalized with Iowa.
I know.. He is just very very very good.
No clue what Shaka actually makes but every search turns up about 3M. If that's the case, he should definitely play hardball with MU and get a raise up to 4.5-5M. Some will laugh due to the recent loss, but it appears he's pretty underpaid relative to some other coaches. If MU is serious about basketball, they need to pay their coach like a top tier program.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 23, 2025, 12:29:03 AMNo clue what Shaka actually makes but every search turns up about 3M. If that's the case, he should definitely play hardball with MU and get a raise up to 4.5-5M. Some will laugh due to the recent loss, but it appears he's pretty underpaid relative to some other coaches. If MU is serious about basketball, they need to pay their coach like a top tier program.
An aircraft carrier is about $13b
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 23, 2025, 12:29:03 AMNo clue what Shaka actually makes but every search turns up about 3M. If that's the case, he should definitely play hardball with MU and get a raise up to 4.5-5M. Some will laugh due to the recent loss, but it appears he's pretty underpaid relative to some other coaches. If MU is serious about basketball, they need to pay their coach like a top tier program.
He is getting paid well. Of course we all would like more.
Tom Crean if he hears MU opening up.
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All I know is, Bradley is still playing
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2025, 12:13:44 AMNow that would be funny.
Badger fans would find that funny.
Shaka was a 7 seed, finished 4th in the the Big East, and lost in the first round. MU fans understand why Texas wanted him gone then. Programs like Virginia, Villanova, last year Kentucky, Louisville, and Michigan are all bigger and better than having any interest in someone like Shaka who can't perform to seed. We're stuck with him.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 23, 2025, 12:29:03 AMNo clue what Shaka actually makes but every search turns up about 3M. If that's the case, he should definitely play hardball with MU and get a raise up to 4.5-5M. Some will laugh due to the recent loss, but it appears he's pretty underpaid relative to some other coaches. If MU is serious about basketball, they need to pay their coach like a top tier program.
$3M is his salary, second highest paid in the Big East, 44th highest paid overall. MU does spend $17.8 M on men's basketball, that's the fourth highest spend of any program in the country, so I would argue MU is quite serious about basketball.
For some comparison, Shaka makes more than Mark Few and Jon Scheyer. Certainly can argue that he is underpaid relative to some coaches above him that make more, but none of those programs spend what MU does on men's basketball as a whole.
Quote from: Dish on March 23, 2025, 11:10:03 AM$3M is his salary, second highest paid in the Big East, 44th highest paid overall. MU does spend $17.8 M on men's basketball, that's the fourth highest spend of any program in the country, so I would argue MU is quite serious about basketball.
For some comparison, Shaka makes more than Mark Few and Jon Scheyer. Certainly can argue that he is underpaid relative to some coaches above him that make more, but none of those programs spend what MU does on men's basketball as a whole.
I'm also not sure what makes up that $3M number. I remember Buzz had a relatively low base salary, but "Buzz LLC" had. Lot of bonus payments and other stuff that made up his compensation.
The bonus payments were bribes from a secret cabal of scoopers to get him to play Derek Wilson over John Dawson.
Quote from: Dish on March 23, 2025, 11:10:03 AM$3M is his salary, second highest paid in the Big East, 44th highest paid overall. MU does spend $17.8 M on men's basketball, that's the fourth highest spend of any program in the country, so I would argue MU is quite serious about basketball.
For some comparison, Shaka makes more than Mark Few and Jon Scheyer. Certainly can argue that he is underpaid relative to some coaches above him that make more, but none of those programs spend what MU does on men's basketball as a whole.
That spend has important context. Most of it is from renting out the Fiserv. That's a high cost that most universities don't have to account for. So high spend, but high costs that other universities don't have. MU is serious about hoops, but let's not pretend that we're flush with walking around money that all but three other programs have.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 23, 2025, 11:52:18 AMThat spend has important context. Most of it is from renting out the Fiserv. That's a high cost that most universities don't have to account for. So high spend, but high costs that other universities don't have. MU is serious about hoops, but let's not pretend that we're flush with walking around money that all but three other programs have.
Which carries over into NIL. Don't pretend that MU has unlimited NIL funds. Think of MU as the Brewers or Packers. Talking about going out and dropping a 7 figure bag on an aircraft carrier is no more likely than the Brewers going after Ohtani or the Packers going after Mahomes.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 23, 2025, 11:52:18 AMThat spend has important context. Most of it is from renting out the Fiserv. That's a high cost that most universities don't have to account for. So high spend, but high costs that other universities don't have. MU is serious about hoops, but let's not pretend that we're flush with walking around money that all but three other programs have.
It definitely does have important context. MU spends a lot to lease out Fiserv because men's basketball is very profitable by playing there! If it wasn't, MU would spend far less on rent to go play at The Arena. Men's basketball last year generated $7.6 M in profits. Yes, I understand Men's basketball has to fund other athletic programs, but on its own, it would be flush with money.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 23, 2025, 11:52:18 AMThat spend has important context. Most of it is from renting out the Fiserv. That's a high cost that most universities don't have to account for. So high spend, but high costs that other universities don't have. MU is serious about hoops, but let's not pretend that we're flush with walking around money that all but three other programs have.
Exactly.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 23, 2025, 11:19:11 AMI'm also not sure what makes up that $3M number. I remember Buzz had a relatively low base salary, but "Buzz LLC" had. Lot of bonus payments and other stuff that made up his compensation.
I heard he was skimming from the kids program he was running.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 23, 2025, 07:39:35 AMTom Crean if he hears MU opening up.
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Either that, or he might just be visualizing one of the Harbaughs asses to take a bite out of.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2025, 12:19:44 PMEither that, or he might just be visualizing one of the Harbaughs asses to take a bite out of.
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Quote from: Dish on March 23, 2025, 12:18:07 PMIt definitely does have important context. MU spends a lot to lease out Fiserv because men's basketball is very profitable by playing there! If it wasn't, MU would spend far less on rent to go play at The Arena. Men's basketball last year generated $7.6 M in profits. Yes, I understand Men's basketball has to fund other athletic programs, but on its own, it would be flush with money.
But there are a lot of programs that are profitable playing where they play and don't have to rent the arena. Take out what we pay to rent an arena and we aren't a top 5 or 10 or 20 spending basketball program. A huge chunk of what we spend has to go somewhere that most programs don't have to put it.
Sean Miller apparently the top candidate for the Longhorns now that Terry has been fired.
Big East with a lot of potential moving parts again. The continuity should continue to be a massive advantage for us.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2025, 12:37:03 PMSean Miller apparently the top candidate for the Longhorns now that Terry has been fired.
Big East with a lot of potential moving parts again. The continuity should continue to be a massive advantage for us.
That would be doing X dirty, but wouldn't surprise me from Miller.
Xavier bringing back Chris Mack would be fun.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2025, 12:40:19 PMThat would be doing X dirty, but wouldn't surprise me from Miller.
Xavier bringing back Chris Mack would be fun.
I'll call my shot. Miller will be gone in less than 5 years at Texas
https://x.com/CedGolden/status/1903880588337004862?t=mUvm4_keeK13QKSyslDotg&s=19
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2025, 01:52:06 PMhttps://x.com/CedGolden/status/1903880588337004862?t=mUvm4_keeK13QKSyslDotg&s=19
X is officially trending down
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2025, 01:58:38 PMX is officially trending down
They've been trending down since Mack left.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2025, 02:02:48 PMThey've been trending down since Mack left.
And honestly, won't surprise me if he gets a call to come home. Might be time to go outside the family
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2025, 12:44:10 PMI'll call my shot. Miller will be gone in less than 5 years at Texas
I agree. Miller cut his teeth in an era where he cheated. I don't feel like he's ever really been a great coach.
Everyone gets to play players now, so I'm not sure how well he will hold up. Texas money will always prioritize football.
X and Nova will find solid coaches.
Quote from: onepost on March 22, 2025, 10:54:53 PMThe overwhelming sentiment from Trilly, Villanova fans there seems to be "this is a wild rumor, doubt it happens". But at least we're not completely caught off guard if it gains any traction.
No chance.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2025, 12:40:19 PMThat would be doing X dirty, but wouldn't surprise me from Miller.
Xavier bringing back Chris Mack would be fun.
Miller flamed out at Zona and he will flame out at Texas. Maybe X won't let him go back to his slimy recruiting ways.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2025, 01:52:06 PMhttps://x.com/CedGolden/status/1903880588337004862?t=mUvm4_keeK13QKSyslDotg&s=19
Well, Conwell and Swain will hit the portal and X will have an entirely new team. That'd be a good start for Texas if he can bring those 2 along.
It sure is nice to be sitting on the sidelines with popcorn.
They should've hired Kelsey when they could have.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 23, 2025, 02:23:53 PMMiller flamed out at Zona and he will flame out at Texas. Maybe X won't let him go back to his slimy recruiting ways.
Well, aren't they legal now?
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 23, 2025, 02:32:04 PMWell, aren't they legal now?
That's besides the point
Idk why they even hired him back: clearly just using them as a springboard to get back to the top. Can't blame him guess that's most coaches
Nike Lewis follow him to Texas,or reopen his recruiting
Quote from: Fred Garvin on March 23, 2025, 05:15:40 PMNike Lewis follow him to Texas,or reopen his recruiting
Well, Texas is a Nike school.
Nyk my bad!
Quote from: MDMU04 on March 21, 2025, 08:34:50 AMIowa
Cons:
- Pretty far from anything besides Cedar Rapids
- Not much NIL
- Lost the Music City Bowl
Pros:
- Steve Alford isn't there anymore
- Great place to go when you don't get into Michigan, Illinois or Wisconsin
- Cooper DeJean pick six off Mahomes in the Super Bowl
This is a tough one. Arrow pointing sideways for now.
I've heard that Iowa job isn't all that desirable for a couple more reasons. No one cares about men's hoops. They're 4th in the pecking order behind women's BB, football, and wrestling. They're only selling a third of the seats in Hawkeye arena.
Here are some coaches who could replace Sean Miller as Xavier men's basketball coach
Shelby Dermer
Cincinnati Enquirer
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2025/03/23/who-will-replace-sean-miller-at-xavier-here-are-some-candidates-chris-mack-richard-pitino-big-east/82626482007/
Chris Mack
Luke Murray
Richard Pitino
Princeton Coach
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 24, 2025, 05:08:46 AMHere are some coaches who could replace Sean Miller as Xavier men's basketball coach
Shelby Dermer
Cincinnati Enquirer
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2025/03/23/who-will-replace-sean-miller-at-xavier-here-are-some-candidates-chris-mack-richard-pitino-big-east/82626482007/
Chris Mack
Luke Murray
Richard Pitino
Princeton Coach
There's probably a reason Luke Murray has been a career assistant. Xavier has passed on him twice already. His name seems to come up a lot as the hot assistant name, but telling that no one has pulled the trigger on him years later.
Too much family baggage.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 24, 2025, 06:54:24 AMThere's probably a reason Luke Murray has been a career assistant. Xavier has passed on him twice already. His name seems to come up a lot as the hot assistant name, but telling that no one has pulled the trigger on him years later.
Mostly because the last two years, he was working into April and unavailable.
Quote from: forgetful on March 23, 2025, 02:08:13 PMI agree. Miller cut his teeth in an era where he cheated. I don't feel like he's ever really been a great coach.
Everyone gets to play players now, so I'm not sure how well he will hold up. Texas money will always prioritize football.
Come on, Texas no doubt has a ridiculous amount of money, so meaningless that football is always king there. They've never been buying off the discount rack for their basketball coach. They won't be shy at all spending for players either.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 24, 2025, 06:58:27 AMMostly because the last two years, he was working into April and unavailable.
What about all the other years? Not to mention UConn and no other school is standing in the way of an assistant getting his chance because they're still playing.
Actually, let's fire Shaka, hire Luke Murray, give up the Jumpman stuff, and become the first school outfitted by William Murray golf. That would be some distinctive designs. Maybe even an updated bumblebee uni themed line of apparel. Shoes are still an issue.
Quote from: forgetful on March 23, 2025, 02:08:13 PMI agree. Miller cut his teeth in an era where he cheated. I don't feel like he's ever really been a great coach.
Everyone gets to play players now, so I'm not sure how well he will hold up. Texas money will always prioritize football.
It would be a pretty boring game if nobody played players.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 24, 2025, 07:03:13 AMWhat about all the other years? Not to mention UConn and no other school is standing in the way of an assistant getting his chance because they're still playing.
Before the latest stint with Hurley he was tied to Mack at Louisville & X. Probably not touchable after all the smoke.
Now? UConn has gone deep + he probably has to get a HM job to replicate his salary. So its a big risk/jump.
Who knows maybe he stinks like you are insinuating and the world is full of failed assistants. But-- I think there are multiple plausible reasons why he isn't a head coach.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 24, 2025, 06:54:24 AMThere's probably a reason Luke Murray has been a career assistant. Xavier has passed on him twice already. His name seems to come up a lot as the hot assistant name, but telling that no one has pulled the trigger on him years later.
He's 44. You talk like he's a 60 year old on the bench indefinitely. And the last 4 years he's been the top assistant on a top program, presumably highly paid. That kind of assistant doesn't leave for a low or middling mid major job.
And as for Xavier "passing" on him twice. The first time they hired a more assistant who had been at X 10 years longer than him. And the next time they hired their former coach who had immense success there. Its not like they hired some other hot assistant.
I don't know if Murray is destined to be a great HC. Or if he's terrible in interviews. But you've largely misrepresented him and his career in an attempt to validate the "career assistant" label
Quote from: JWags85 on March 24, 2025, 07:41:06 AMHe's 44. You talk like he's a 60 year old on the bench indefinitely. And the last 4 years he's been the top assistant on a top program, presumably highly paid. That kind of assistant doesn't leave for a low or middling mid major job.
And as for Xavier "passing" on him twice. The first time they hired a more assistant who had been at X 10 years longer than him. And the next time they hired their former coach who had immense success there. Its not like they hired some other hot assistant.
I don't know if Murray is destined to be a great HC. Or if he's terrible in interviews. But you've largely misrepresented him and his career in an attempt to validate the "career assistant" label
I haven't "largely misrepresented" anything about him. He's been an assistant 10 years at a high major and 15 as D1 assistant.
I don't know WTH i said that implies he's a "60 year old" other than your interpretation.
IF he has a Wojo complex that he will not take anything but a high major job, that doesn't seem a smart play after waiting a full decade as a high assistant. And we saw how well that worked for Wojo and MU. If you want your shot, you're probably not going to get everything you want for program and money right away.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 24, 2025, 07:03:13 AMWhat about all the other years? Not to mention UConn and no other school is standing in the way of an assistant getting his chance because they're still playing.
That's just not true. The reason Jai Lucas leaving Duke for Miami when he did was a big deal was because that never happens. Assistants on NC/F4 staffs usually don't get those promotions until the year after the great success because the carousel is typically done spinning by the second week of April.
I don't get the upside for Miller to go to Texas. Even if he can repeat the success he had at Arizona, I still think that gets him fired from Texas for not being good enough.
And now he doesn't have the unfair advantage to help him either.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 24, 2025, 09:17:56 AMI don't get the upside for Miller to go to Texas. Even if he can repeat the success he had at Arizona, I still think that gets him fired from Texas for not being good enough.
And now he doesn't have the unfair advantage to help him either.
He's betting on himself. If it doesn't work out in four years he will still have several million dollars and be 61. He can retire or take a lower stress job somewhere nice.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 24, 2025, 09:34:04 AMHe's betting on himself. If it doesn't work out in four years he will still have several million dollars and be 61. He can retire or take a lower stress job somewhere nice.
Agreed. With Miller, I think it is all about the money and ego. Who knows what the nil situation is at X compared to Texas but I am sure he probably will have more money to spend one way or another.
Given that Miller's buyout at X was reportedly ~$2 million despite signing an extension through 28-29, it shouldn't be a big surprise he was looking at bigger jobs.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44384134/sources-iowa-hire-drake-ben-mccollum-head-coach
Offically
Quote from: The Sultan on March 20, 2025, 08:10:46 PMIowa shouldn't overthink this.
You were right!
I was wrong!
Stylistically speaking, going from McCaffery to McCollum is going to take some getting used to for Iowa fans.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 24, 2025, 10:32:04 AMStylistically speaking, going from McCaffery to McCollum is going to take some getting used to for Iowa fans.
I think it is a requirement for Iowa head coaches to not value offense. McCollum will need to adjust.
https://x.com/ryanjamesmn/status/1904192488169963581?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Here's what The Athletic says about the Texas basketball job:
Texas isn't a basketball blue blood, but the Longhorns are as well-positioned as anyone to thrive in the modern era. Texas is the only SEC opening this coaching cycle (so far), and competing in the best conference in America, which just shattered the single-season record for NCAA Tournament bids from one league, is a huge enticement. The built-in recruiting advantages of being the biggest fish in one of the most talent-rich states in the country are notable. And there is a deep pool of NBA stars who have passed through Austin in the last two decades, from LaMarcus Aldridge to Kevin Durant to Jarrett Allen. (Johnson will join that list come June, when he becomes the program's sixth first-round pick since 2015.) Prospective recruits are well aware they can springboard from Austin to the NBA.
As for resources, Texas has everything a coach could possibly need to succeed at the highest levels of the sport. Per US Department of Education data from 2022-23, the most recent year for which tax information is available, Texas was sixth among all public schools in men's basketball spending. That trailed only Kentucky, Louisville, Michigan State, Texas Tech, and Indiana — and, notably, was ahead of hoops heavyweights like Tennessee, Kansas, and Arizona. Think of it like this: If the Longhorns' deep pockets were enough to propel them to consecutive College Football Playoff appearances, couldn't they help make a similar splash in men's basketball?
Quote from: MU82 on March 24, 2025, 11:16:47 AMHere's what The Athletic says about the Texas basketball job:
Texas isn't a basketball blue blood, but the Longhorns are as well-positioned as anyone to thrive in the modern era. Texas is the only SEC opening this coaching cycle (so far), and competing in the best conference in America, which just shattered the single-season record for NCAA Tournament bids from one league, is a huge enticement. The built-in recruiting advantages of being the biggest fish in one of the most talent-rich states in the country are notable. And there is a deep pool of NBA stars who have passed through Austin in the last two decades, from LaMarcus Aldridge to Kevin Durant to Jarrett Allen. (Johnson will join that list come June, when he becomes the program's sixth first-round pick since 2015.) Prospective recruits are well aware they can springboard from Austin to the NBA.
As for resources, Texas has everything a coach could possibly need to succeed at the highest levels of the sport. Per US Department of Education data from 2022-23, the most recent year for which tax information is available, Texas was sixth among all public schools in men's basketball spending. That trailed only Kentucky, Louisville, Michigan State, Texas Tech, and Indiana — and, notably, was ahead of hoops heavyweights like Tennessee, Kansas, and Arizona. Think of it like this: If the Longhorns' deep pockets were enough to propel them to consecutive College Football Playoff appearances, couldn't they help make a similar splash in men's basketball?
Yeah, a dead end job and a place where coaches go to die.
For my entire life, I've been told about the potential of Texas basketball. It's like UNC football. Occasionally, it's really good. Mostly, it maintains its sleeping giant status by snoring a lot.
Rick Barnes did a lot there. One Final 4. Shaka did naught. Maybe Chris Beard is the guy that fully would have awoken the slumbering beast but we'll never know.
My money is on Sean Miller, not being the one to turn them into a hoops hotbed. Oh, he'll win games but his returns have been diminishing for awhile.
Little Pitino's name is being mentioned for the Nova job too.
Hmmm......VCU seems to think they are a potential spot for little Pitino.
Quote from: the eagle on March 24, 2025, 03:25:48 PMHmmm......VCU seems to think they are a potential spot for little Pitino.
Source?
I was a long-term Richmonder and have a soft spot in my hard heart (as evidenced by my scoop posts) for VCU. But I think little Rick is already beyond VCU's reach both in $ and as a mid-major, although a very good mid-major.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 24, 2025, 09:34:04 AMHe's betting on himself. If it doesn't work out in four years he will still have several million dollars and be 61. He can retire or take a lower stress job somewhere nice.
He can go back to Xavier for the third time.
Josh Pastner getting the UNLV job.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 24, 2025, 10:34:14 AMI think it is a requirement for Iowa head coaches to not value offense. McCollum will need to adjust.
Think he'll do very well.
Quote from: MuMark on March 24, 2025, 10:55:28 AMhttps://x.com/ryanjamesmn/status/1904192488169963581?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Why would anyone who's shown they're good want that program? Big 18 or not. Going back home fine, it's very hard to build any kind of sustained success there.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 25, 2025, 06:29:33 AMWhy would anyone who's shown they're good want that program? Big 18 or not. Going back home fine, it's very hard to build any kind of sustained success there.
But, make it there, get paid elsewhere. Just like NIL. Stepping stone.
Maybe he wins 98 games in 4 seasons and Texas offers him a bunch of money to be the next sacrificial coach.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 25, 2025, 06:29:33 AMWhy would anyone who's shown they're good want that program? Big 18 or not. Going back home fine, it's very hard to build any kind of sustained success there.
He went to school there.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 25, 2025, 06:24:27 AMThink he'll do very well.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 25, 2025, 06:29:33 AMWhy would anyone who's shown they're good want that program? Big 18 or not. Going back home fine, it's very hard to build any kind of sustained success there.
The duality of man
Quote from: tower912 on March 25, 2025, 06:55:23 AMBut, make it there, get paid elsewhere. Just like NIL. Stepping stone.
Yep. Working ok for Little Pitino.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 24, 2025, 10:11:05 PMJosh Pastner getting the UNLV job.
after being rejected by the Arkansas State coach who took South Florida instead.
Not a bad hire for UNLV. I hope they have enough to pay him considering the AD said they only have enough to pay the new football coach for two years of his five year deal.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 25, 2025, 08:52:07 AMafter being rejected by the Arkansas State coach who took South Florida instead.
Not a bad hire for UNLV. I hope they have enough to pay him considering the AD said they only have enough to pay the new football coach for two years of his five year deal.
Oh, you mean Coaching Changes got bad info that Shaka was headed to USF? I'm shocked! :P
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 25, 2025, 09:01:55 AMOh, you mean Coaching Changes got bad info that Shaka was headed to USF? I'm shocked! :P
I know, shocking that social media got something wrong!
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 25, 2025, 08:52:07 AMafter being rejected by the Arkansas State coach who took South Florida instead.
Not a bad hire for UNLV. I hope they have enough to pay him considering the AD said they only have enough to pay the new football coach for two years of his five year deal.
Wasn't UNLV the school where the quarterback had them rolling and then left the team during the season saying he was promised NIL money but never saw a cent?
Quote from: romey on March 25, 2025, 09:54:13 AMWasn't UNLV the school where the quarterback had them rolling and then left the team during the season saying he was promised NIL money but never saw a cent?
Yes that is the school. Allegedly, this happened.
Quote from: MUbiz on March 25, 2025, 09:55:23 AMYes that is the school. Allegedly, this happened.
Quote from: romey on March 25, 2025, 09:54:13 AMWasn't UNLV the school where the quarterback had them rolling and then left the team during the season saying he was promised NIL money but never saw a cent?
That's what his agent claimed despite never signing anything. And the QB who replaced him was better.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 25, 2025, 10:10:59 AMThat's what his agent claimed despite never signing anything. And the QB who replaced him was better.
For us dinosaurs, as Paul Harvey would say, that's "the rest of the story." I was not aware of that, but I DID hear his agent was the one with the loudest voice in all of that.
Thanks for the update.
https://x.com/RealRobReinhart/status/1904639476141261136?t=RoZFPZrCFX415IH31ECgYA&s=19
Quote from: tower912 on March 25, 2025, 06:55:23 AMBut, make it there, get paid elsewhere. Just like NIL. Stepping stone.
Maybe he wins 98 games in 4 seasons and Texas offers him a bunch of money to be the next sacrificial coach.
awesome!
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 25, 2025, 04:47:28 PMhttps://x.com/RealRobReinhart/status/1904639476141261136?t=RoZFPZrCFX415IH31ECgYA&s=19
Do we think this is legit? Guy posted it 2+ hours ago and no other media has reported it, which seems odd.
Same guy posted this today:
https://x.com/RealRobReinhart/status/1904251935709929546
Quote from: Pakuni on March 25, 2025, 06:50:34 PMDo we think this is legit? Guy posted it 2+ hours ago and no other media has reported it, which seems odd.
Same guy posted this today:
https://x.com/RealRobReinhart/status/1904251935709929546
I'm having a hard time believing this.
Didn't someone earlier say Rob Reinhart was legit?
What is an explicative?
Folks
Mack out of the running at X.
Quote from: onlyjoinedtoblockposts on March 25, 2025, 08:36:31 PMMack out of the running at X.
Yep
https://x.com/coachchrismack/status/1904704595277791397?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Mrs. Mack decided she much prefers the climate in Charleston
https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1904713194276265985?t=gntEUhv4gIKceZdGPHau_A&s=19
Does that mean Donnie Dent will see Marquette 2 more times at least then?
Pitino to X makes more sense. I think Willard is gone and off to Nova.
Tom Crean to Nova is gonna be beautiful
Pastner to UNLV could be interesting.
So Rob Reinhart not reliable lol
I feel like Xavier could have done better.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 25, 2025, 09:07:36 PMI feel like Xavier could have done better.
They could have done worse too.......its hard to get good sitting head coaches to make a move these days
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 25, 2025, 08:57:18 PMDoes that mean Donnie Dent will see Marquette 2 more times at least then?
Blue bloods supposedly in play for him.
At minimum, the uninteresting X/SJ matchup now becomes must see tv and those games likely get moved to FOX with big viewership.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 25, 2025, 09:24:49 PMAt minimum, the uninteresting X/SJ matchup now becomes must see tv and those games likely get moved to FOX with big viewership.
And allows Marquette to fly under the radar again.
All these big changes in the conference from a portal and coaching perspective and Marquette remains largely unchanged.
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 25, 2025, 09:06:13 PMSo Rob Reinhart not reliable lol
It's a PC troll account. It does occasionally post actually news (not scoops but reposting other correct information) in an attempt to appear legit.
Add coaches plotting to switch schools while their current teams are in the postseason to the list of things that will "ruin college basketball."
Quote from: MU82 on March 25, 2025, 09:52:15 PMAdd coaches plotting to switch schools while their current teams are in the postseason to the list of things that will "ruin college basketball."
No doubt about it. What a terrible shame. I'm extremely angry about the situation.
Fran to Penn is the most interesting combination of this coaching cycle.
Quote from: Dish on March 25, 2025, 10:39:19 PMFran to Penn is the most interesting combination of this coaching cycle.
Why the f would Penn do that? Fran is a class A douche.
Quote from: Dish on March 25, 2025, 10:39:19 PMFran to Penn is the most interesting combination of this coaching cycle.
Wow. I definitely didn't expect that one.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 25, 2025, 11:12:57 PMWhy the f would Penn do that? Fran is a class A douche.
Have you meet an Ivy Leaguer? Fran will fit right in. ;D
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 25, 2025, 09:03:53 PMPastner to UNLV could be interesting.
Is it though? He's by all accounts a great guy and well liked within the coaching community, but he's been a thoroughly mediocre coach once he got out of the kiddie pool of C-USA. He's won 20 games once in the last 10 seasons he's coached, was 25 games under 500 in the ACC, and has won 2 NCAA games in 15 years of being a HC.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 26, 2025, 07:21:11 AMIs it though? He's by all accounts a great guy and well liked within the coaching community, but he's been a thoroughly mediocre coach once he got out of the kiddie pool of C-USA. He's won 20 games once in the last 10 seasons he's coached, was 25 games under 500 in the ACC, and has won 2 NCAA games in 15 years of being a HC.
Also my view. Also, doesn't UNLV have a lack of resources?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 25, 2025, 11:19:27 PMWow. I definitely didn't expect that one.
He's a Philly guy who played at Penn. Penn used to own the Ivy along with Princeton ("the Killer P's). A couple of bad hires (especially Jerome Allen) have led to a downturn in the program. Fran is a good guy to rebuild the foundation of Penn hoops.
West Virginia hiring North Texas' Ross Hodge.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 26, 2025, 11:28:48 AMWest Virginia hiring North Texas' Ross Hodge.
I had no clue who he was, and uhhhh This seems like quite a job upgrade for a guy who has been a head coach in D1 for two years at North Texas.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2025, 11:36:58 AMI had no clue who he was, and uhhhh This seems like quite a job upgrade for a guy who has been a head coach in D1 for two years at North Texas.
The WVU AD was the AD at North Texas for five years when Hodge was an assistant. Familiarity wins out.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 26, 2025, 11:46:08 AMThe WVU AD was the AD at North Texas for five years when Hodge was an assistant. Familiarity wins out.
Well that makes some sense, though the AD is really putting his job on the line with the hire either way.
Maybe UT sports ADs aren't Strong or Smart anymore, but they sure are quick deciders.
Sitting at the Xavier UT NCAA BB game
one notes to the other," Hey you know we got to fire coach Terry after the game. "
" Yeah but who has any ideas on who we get to replace him? "
" How about that coach for the other guys; after all he is beating us"
"OK great idea. Lets get him...he sure passes the eye test for me; he looks to be the doppelganger of Steve Sarkasian (see Chron headline-https://www.chron.com/sports/college/article/sean-miller-texas-steve-sarkisian-doppleganger-20240238.php). Thats our guy"
"Our search is over; whew, that took ten minutes"
Actually, I think Miller is a good fit; he is good big program coach who has been very successful with high payrolls. At Arizona his issues aren't even violations anymore. UT deserves better basketball.
Quote from: HouWarrior on March 26, 2025, 12:02:51 PMActually, I think Miller is a good fit; he is good big program coach who has been very successful with high payrolls. At Arizona his issues aren't even violations anymore. UT deserves better basketball.
I think he is a high floor coach, but the UofA alums I know were very happy to see him get canned due to the results. The cheating was not a problem for them.
Yeah, cheating is one thing. But winning only 2 NCAAT games in 6 years, including zero the last 4, means Miller had lost his touch as a cheater.
https://wvusports.com/news/2025/3/26/mens-basketball-hodge-named-west-virginia-head-mens-basketball-coach.aspx
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2025, 11:36:58 AMI had no clue who he was, and uhhhh This seems like quite a job upgrade for a guy who has been a head coach in D1 for two years at North Texas.
It seems a bit odd, mostly cause of some of the names floating around which seemed to make more sense. But if you dig into it, it's actually not that odd or much of a leap.
He was an exceptional JuCo HC at a young age, which has translated well lately to D1 in the South/Southeast (Chris Beard, Steve Forbes, Grant McCasland, etc..)
Additionally, he'd been McCasland's right hand man, so if not for the promotion, he'd be the lead assistant at TTU, which isn't a huge jump to HC at another B12 school.
And actually, he did pretty nice work at North Texas. Inherited basically nothing and turned them into a solid team by year 2.
https://x.com/madeformarch/status/1905059290953449974?t=SAOp5WmSVmfrjfO84jSNZQ&s=19
https://x.com/BarstoolReags/status/1905062844506186032?t=_Pj-QQj6zWSMry5hgp9ugw&s=19
https://x.com/Licatacs/status/1905035793539731846?t=mz0_sGDU9pyu9W2N_VXrJg&s=19
https://x.com/RyanA202021/status/1905025559496700363?t=SOFacH45TVMP4sRcOf7d4Q&s=19
https://x.com/harrisonrich_/status/1905021791619240312?t=5leV--Ya6dOYnKrE9XYLFA&s=19
https://x.com/wowmanyouresick/status/1905042432837771406?t=dLxQPCjiV4sOA_nxSERttg&s=19
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 26, 2025, 09:15:34 PMhttps://x.com/wowmanyouresick/status/1905042432837771406?t=dLxQPCjiV4sOA_nxSERttg&s=19
You might want to check the name of that twitter handle
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 26, 2025, 08:51:10 PMhttps://x.com/BarstoolReags/status/1905062844506186032?t=_Pj-QQj6zWSMry5hgp9ugw&s=19
https://x.com/Licatacs/status/1905035793539731846?t=mz0_sGDU9pyu9W2N_VXrJg&s=19
https://x.com/RyanA202021/status/1905025559496700363?t=SOFacH45TVMP4sRcOf7d4Q&s=19
https://x.com/harrisonrich_/status/1905021791619240312?t=5leV--Ya6dOYnKrE9XYLFA&s=19
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/why-would-maryland-s-kevin-willard-leave-the-big-ten-for-villanova-follow-the-money/ar-AA1BKYwf?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=00344a829d01486193ebfac6d8ff282e&ei=15
Maybe the Big East won't be worse off than the P4 in basketball.
From the article:
The forward-looking models are somewhat hypothetical and unclear right now, but enough power brokers are convinced there's a world where Big East basketball thrives, maybe at a level that Maryland can't and won't.
All those schools will still have collectives to dish out nil money. The SEC schools look like they have awakened this year and spent a ton of money on basketball, and I don't think that is going away.
Plus, what's to say that schools actually spend the entire cap. Are schools like Marquette able and willing to spend up to the cap limit? At the end of the day, I think it still comes down to the fan bases donating through schools or collectives and Marquette is still at a disadvantage.
I guess we should all start donating or donating more.
Quote from: Big Papi on March 27, 2025, 08:43:08 AMAll those schools will still have collectives to dish out nil money. The SEC schools look like they have awakened this year and spent a ton of money on basketball, and I don't think that is going away.
Plus, what's to say that schools actually spend the entire cap. Are schools like Marquette able and willing to spend up to the cap limit? At the end of the day, I think it still comes down to the fan bases donating through schools or collectives and Marquette is still at a disadvantage.
I guess we should all start donating or donating more.
The SEC has focused on 5th and 6th year players, which will be going away.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 26, 2025, 08:51:10 PMhttps://x.com/RyanA202021/status/1905025559496700363?t=SOFacH45TVMP4sRcOf7d4Q&s=19
Willard "forced" the AD out so he could go to a better job? Ok, Terp.
These guys can team up with the WVU loons who claim DeVries accepted the IU job in November and tanked the season by winning three of the last four so WVU wouldn't make the NCAA tourney.
https://x.com/ElsenMidco/status/1905253183938502948
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 27, 2025, 09:57:10 AMhttps://x.com/ElsenMidco/status/1905253183938502948
Hardin has batted 1.000 on coaching hires so far.
Looking forward to Tom Izzo pontificating on the Kevin Willard situation at his next presser.
Smart of Coach Wardle to hold out for a top tier job. #COW
Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2025, 10:39:59 AMLooking forward to Tom Izzo pontificating on the Kevin Willard situation at his next presser.
To be fair, Willard is a dick
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 27, 2025, 12:40:25 PMTo be fair, Willard is a dick
He is. Which is why I want him back in BE. Make the BE mean agian.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 27, 2025, 12:40:25 PMTo be fair, Willard is a dick
All the more reason for Izzo to complain about the sorry state of professional ethics among his peers.
reportedly Willard skipped a team dinner last night and even the players know he's out:
https://collegefootballnetwork.com/mens-college-basketball/maryland-hc-kevin-willard-skips-team-dinner-villanova-rumors-sweet-16/
I can't for the life of me understand why Villanova wants this dude to be their coach.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2025, 01:02:53 PMAll the more reason for Izzo to complain about the sorry state of professional ethics among his peers.
I'm not sure anyone else remembers that Tom Izzo hid sexual predators on his staff. So I'm going to remind everyone who cheers for him.
QuoteOutside the Lines also has obtained never-before-publicized reports of sexual or violent incidents involving members of Izzo's storied basketball program, including one report made against a former undergraduate student-assistant coach who was allowed to continue coaching after he had been criminally charged for punching a female MSU student in the face at a bar in 2010. A few months later, after the Spartans qualified for the 2010 Final Four, the same assistant coach was accused of sexually assaulting a different female student.
https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn
I think it is amazing that Tom has managed to mostly avoid the heat for this, and people just kinda forgot.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2025, 12:31:02 PMSmart of Coach Wardle to hold out for a top tier job. #COW
Delete this.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2025, 02:01:29 PMI'm not sure anyone else remembers that Tom Izzo hid sexual predators on his staff. So I'm going to remind everyone who cheers for him.
https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn
I think it is amazing that Tom has managed to mostly avoid the heat for this, and people just kinda forgot.
Yup, exactly. And had MSU females that brought accusations of sexual assault by players brought to MSU's administration and, shockingly given the school, were basically told they should keep quiet.
And how about that all American sexual predator, Slick Rick who is now the darling of St. Johns, Big East, and college basketball? Dont forget him.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 27, 2025, 02:14:19 PMAnd how about that all American sexual predator, Slick Rick who is now the darling of St. Johns, Big East, and college basketball? Dont forget him.
You wouldn't let anyone if they tried!
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2025, 02:01:29 PMI'm not sure anyone else remembers that Tom Izzo hid sexual predators on his staff. So I'm going to remind everyone who cheers for him.
https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn
I think it is amazing that Tom has managed to mostly avoid the heat for this, and people just kinda forgot.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 27, 2025, 02:11:32 PMYup, exactly. And had MSU females that brought accusations of sexual assault by players brought to MSU's administration and, shockingly given the school, were basically told they should keep quiet.
Izzo had absolutely zero to do with Nassar. The case was the lead story for ages in Michigan. And everyone was waiting in anticipation of who knew what when. Izzo's name was never once brought up in the trials as someone who had been told. I was listening and waiting and ready to lump him in with Paterno's, Schembechler's, Jim Jordan's of the world.
Now, I will freely admit that Izzo messed up in regards to his own players and sexual assault. Worse than Buzz. But the reason he survived the Nassar story is that he had no involvement, other than being employed by MSU athletics at the same time.
Quote from: tower912 on March 27, 2025, 02:25:57 PMIzzo had absolutely zero to do with Nassar. The case was the lead story for ages in Michigan. And everyone was waiting in anticipation of who knew what when. Izzo's name was never once brought up in the trials as someone who had been told. I was listening and waiting and ready to lump him in with Paterno's, Schembechler's, Jim Jordan's of the world.
Now, I will freely admit that Izzo messed up in regards to his own players and sexual assault. Worse than Buzz. But the reason he survived the Nassar story is that he had no involvement, other than being employed by MSU athletics at the same time.
I didn't suggest Nassar involvement. The portion I quoted was about one of his coaches.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2025, 02:27:16 PMI didn't suggest Nassar involvement. The portion I quoted was about one of his coaches.
Same.
Quote from: tower912 on March 27, 2025, 02:25:57 PMIzzo had absolutely zero to do with Nassar. The case was the lead story for ages in Michigan. And everyone was waiting in anticipation of who knew what when. Izzo's name was never once brought up in the trials as someone who had been told. I was listening and waiting and ready to lump him in with Paterno's, Schembechler's, Jim Jordan's of the world.
Now, I will freely admit that Izzo messed up in regards to his own players and sexual assault. Worse than Buzz. But the reason he survived the Nassar story is that he had no involvement, other than being employed by MSU athletics at the same time.
Well, he did defend the people who fought like hell to quash the story
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 27, 2025, 01:37:34 PMreportedly Willard skipped a team dinner last night and even the players know he's out:
https://collegefootballnetwork.com/mens-college-basketball/maryland-hc-kevin-willard-skips-team-dinner-villanova-rumors-sweet-16/
There is a right way to handle these things, and there is the way Willard is going about this.
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on March 27, 2025, 01:43:30 PMI can't for the life of me understand why Villanova wants this dude to be their coach.
Yeah, I gotta agree with this.
Quote from: tower912 on March 27, 2025, 02:25:57 PMIzzo had absolutely zero to do with Nassar. The case was the lead story for ages in Michigan. And everyone was waiting in anticipation of who knew what when. Izzo's name was never once brought up in the trials as someone who had been told. I was listening and waiting and ready to lump him in with Paterno's, Schembechler's, Jim Jordan's of the world.
Now, I will freely admit that Izzo messed up in regards to his own players and sexual assault. Worse than Buzz. But the reason he survived the Nassar story is that he had no involvement, other than being employed by MSU athletics at the same time.
True, but Izzo made some "brialliant" comment about hoping they got the right guy; as if all those girls made up stuff about Nassar.
I don't think he was being a jerk as much as I honestly don't think he is a smart person. But maybe I'm being to kind.
Some chatter on X about Buzz possibly going to Maryland once Willard gets announced at Nova.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 27, 2025, 03:30:23 PMSome chatter on X about Buzz possibly going to Maryland once Willard gets announced at Nova.
<checks calendar>
Yep, six years. It's about time he moves on.
Anyway, he would be returning to Milwaukee next season.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 27, 2025, 03:30:23 PMSome chatter on X about Buzz possibly going to Maryland once Willard gets announced at Nova.
He just doesn't see the SEC having much of a future.
nm
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 27, 2025, 03:30:23 PMSome chatter on X about Buzz possibly going to Maryland once Willard gets announced at Nova.
There are more designated flushers in College Park.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 27, 2025, 03:30:23 PMSome chatter on X about Buzz possibly going to Maryland once Willard gets announced at Nova.
If true, what is wrong with that guy? He is in his home state, SEC, big money; what does he want in life?
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 27, 2025, 03:41:16 PMIf true, what is wrong with that guy? He is in his home state, SEC, big money; what does he want in life?
He wears on people and they get tired of dealing with him.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 27, 2025, 03:44:20 PMHe wears on people and they get tired of dealing with him.
Then why the hell would Maryland want him? [
rhetorical question]
He also "wanted" Xavier.
He wants more money, is what he wants.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 27, 2025, 03:46:39 PMThen why the hell would Maryland want him? [rhetorical question]
Because he likely would be easier to deal with than Kevin Willard.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 27, 2025, 09:57:10 AMhttps://x.com/ElsenMidco/status/1905253183938502948
Burlington Catholic Central to high level mid major HC in a decade. Not quite a Nate Oats stratospheric rise, but impressive nonetheless.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 27, 2025, 03:41:16 PMIf true, what is wrong with that guy? He is in his home state, SEC, big money; what does he want in life?
Some guys are just restless. He's not that level, but look at Larry Brown. One of the best coaches of all time and he had 10 jobs in 30 years while winning both NCAA and NBA titles.
I get the impression he also has a pathological need for leverage. So if he's not in a position to be the one demanding more money, resources, etc... he'll try to jump to where he can. Cause otherwise, I agree, A&M would seem like the place he'd be locked in unless MAYBE UT came along.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 27, 2025, 03:50:10 PMBecause he likely would be easier to deal with than Kevin Willard.
Low bar
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 27, 2025, 03:30:23 PMSome chatter on X about Buzz possibly going to Maryland once Willard gets announced at Nova.
CBS dusting off the Buzz's Bunch feature.
I would find it odd too (Buzz to Maryland), but consider this:
Buzz has left two programs after his first class essentially graduates (or leaves for the NBA). I think, in retrospect, he would have chosen to leave after the Elite Eight run with us (and probably knowing Blue was departing with Cadougan with Lockett). At VT, the year of his S16 run, it was a senior-heavy team comprised of his first recruiting class. The entire lineup graduated/left after the season was over (and with Buzz going to A&M).
A&M's lineup this year, that narrowly missed the S16? All seniors. His first class is now graduating, and it doesn't appear much is in the cupboard for next year (unless they go heavy into the portal).
The counter-argument is that Maryland doesn't have an AD, and for those around ten years ago, he justified not having an AD in making a move. Would be quite the full circle for that to be used as a reason to move now. He also has had three different ADs at A&M since being hired.
We will see. I could actually see it (if he moves to Maryland).
Quote from: willie warrior on March 27, 2025, 02:14:19 PMAnd how about that all American sexual predator, Slick Rick who is now the darling of St. Johns, Big East, and college basketball? Dont forget him.
I'd respond, but I don't want a Scoopcation.
I'm tuning in to see if Willard wears Nova gear.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 27, 2025, 05:44:37 PMI'm tuning in to see if Willard wears Nova gear.
If they lose, does Willard wear a Nova pin to his press conference?
Quote from: The Sultan on March 27, 2025, 03:03:55 PMThere is a right way to handle these things, and there is the way Willard is going about this.
Ageeed. I never thought I'd suggest someone follow Will Wade's example of how to do something the honorable way
Congrats to Kevin Willard on getting his azz kicked so he now can focus on the job he actually wants.
Truly a great leader of young men. Can't wait for him to stress loyalty and commitment to the Nova players.
Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2025, 08:47:42 PMCongrats to Kevin Willard on getting his azz kicked so he now can focus on the job he actually wants.
Truly a great leader of young men. Can't wait for him to stress loyalty and commitment to the Nova players.
He's always been an asshead. Who gets the Maryland job?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 27, 2025, 08:49:42 PMHe's always been an asshead. Who gets the Maryland job?
Wojo?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 27, 2025, 08:49:42 PMHe's always been an asshead. Who gets the Maryland job?
Buzz
If Willard's complaints are legit, who can they pull? Not a big name.
Quote from: tower912 on March 27, 2025, 09:07:47 PMIf Willard's complaints are legit, who can they pull? Not a big name.
Wojo
Quote from: tower912 on March 27, 2025, 09:07:47 PMIf Willard's complaints are legit, who can they pull? Not a big name.
I say Buzz unsarcastically 👀
Quote from: tower912 on March 27, 2025, 09:07:47 PMIf Willard's complaints are legit, who can they pull? Not a big name.
I'm sure the situation isn't perfect, but I'm also not sure I'd take Willard's thoughts at face value.
Has anyone said Fran McCaffrey new head coach at Penn yet
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 27, 2025, 10:49:25 PMHas anyone said Fran McCaffrey new head coach at Penn yet
People are excited to see what nf can do with less stringent academic standards.
Quote from: tower912 on March 27, 2025, 09:07:47 PMIf Willard's complaints are legit, who can they pull? Not a big name.
They're not
Willard wants a payday and he is playing one school off against another.
Jokes aside about Fran, if he's still got anything left in the tank at 65, I think that's actually a great hire. He was an above average coach at the mid major level and his style of play actually suits the Ivy League which has actually turned into a fairly uptempo/high scoring league. Unless he's actually checked out/mailing it in, I would expect to see him in the NCAA with Penn in the next 5 years
I think that it is more likely that he is in a nursing home chewing rolled oats in 5 years.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 28, 2025, 07:38:36 AMWillard wants a payday and he is playing one school off against another.
Kevin and Buzz should get a room together.
Buzz likely has 8 of his top 10 players leaving. Chances are he'll be less sought-after next year.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2025, 10:34:09 AMBuzz likely has 8 of his top 10 players leaving. Chances are he'll be less sought-after next year.
Not a coaching issue, but I noticed Louisville had 7 of their top 8 players leaving as srs.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2025, 10:34:09 AMBuzz likely has 8 of his top 10 players leaving. Chances are he'll be less sought-after next year.
Buzz knows how to bring in transfers.
Rob Senderhoff wisely turned down Fordhman and will remain at Kent State, signing a six year deal. Not only is Fordham a dead end job they may not be in the A10 within five years
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 27, 2025, 09:08:28 PMI say Buzz unsarcastically 👀
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1905679581777895837?t=0JyU9W3Xq9NQrkNgNZ4gNQ&s=19
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2025, 01:25:04 PMhttps://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1905679581777895837?t=0JyU9W3Xq9NQrkNgNZ4gNQ&s=19
Happy to see Goodman is still playing the hits.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 28, 2025, 01:29:21 PMHappy to see Goodman is still playing the hits.
Speaking of the hits, this one was on the charts 11 years ago.
(https://jwphotohost.azurewebsites.net/Images/mu/scott_monarch.jpg)
Goodman's original tweet said he tried to get involved at Xavier too
When Buzz goes to Maryland we will finally get that matchup against him that we've been waiting for all these years.
Maryland plays the return game of the home and home at Fiserv next year.
Villanova needs to just hire Beard and leave Willard to his own demise.
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 28, 2025, 07:44:47 PMVillanova needs to just hire Beard and leave Willard to his own demise.
When he's not strangling his fiancé, Beard is as good as any coach in college hoops IMO.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 28, 2025, 07:52:06 PMWhen he's not strangling his fiancé, Beard is as good as any coach in college hoops IMO.
Would Izzo have hidden Chris Beard's allegations?
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 28, 2025, 08:20:39 PMWould Izzo have hidden Chris Beard's allegations?
Oh no doubt.
I hear ya on the Beard allegations. But man there's gotta be someone else Villanova is interested in besides Willard. Is he that great? Did well at SH and Queen took him to the sweet 16 with some magic vs Colo St.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2025, 01:25:04 PMhttps://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1905679581777895837?t=0JyU9W3Xq9NQrkNgNZ4gNQ&s=19
Is there any job that Buzz will be content with not get itch to bolt after 4-6 years? Seems there isn't. Apparently going home means nothing to him either.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 28, 2025, 08:57:21 PMIs there any job that Buzz will be content with not get itch to bolt after 4-6 years? Seems there isn't. Apparently going home means nothing to him either.
unnatural carnal knowledge buzz, really.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 28, 2025, 01:14:51 PMRob Senderhoff wisely turned down Fordhman and will remain at Kent State, signing a six year deal. Not only is Fordham a dead end job they may not be in the A10 within five years
How bad is the Fordham job? Supposedly Urgo was making in the very high 6 figures, nearing $1MM a year. Senderhoff was around $300K and now his raise probably puts him near the top of the MAC which is $500-600K. Sheesh. So Fordham went to hire a low major West Coast guy with no East Coast connections save for a few years as a green low level assistant at Columbia.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 28, 2025, 09:29:09 PMunnatural carnal knowledge buzz, really.
I don't like the way he left either, but the Buzz hate is approaching mid 2010 Crean levels.
We have a better coach and a strong program. He was never gonna be a lifer here, even if we won a natty. Let a neurotic weirdo go be weird elsewhere. He's gonna be in at least 2 different jobs other than College Station by 2035.
Breaking: Maryland Basketball head coach Kevin Willard has accepted Villanova Basketball's offer to become the program's next head coach, sources confirmed to Jeff Borzello.
News of Willard accepting Villanova's offer was first reported by Inside Maryland Sports.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 28, 2025, 10:13:30 PMHow bad is the Fordham job? Supposedly Urgo was making in the very high 6 figures, nearing $1MM a year. Senderhoff was around $300K and now his raise probably puts him near the top of the MAC which is $500-600K. Sheesh. So Fordham went to hire a low major West Coast guy with no East Coast connections save for a few years as a green low level assistant at Columbia.
I don't like the way he left either, but the Buzz hate is approaching mid 2010 Crean levels.
We have a better coach and a strong program. He was never gonna be a lifer here, even if we won a natty. Let a neurotic weirdo go be weird elsewhere. He's gonna be in at least 2 different jobs other than College Station by 2035.
Yes, the downtime lonesome cowboy riding off into the sunset, looking for his next cattle drive.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 30, 2025, 05:01:11 AMBreaking: Maryland Basketball head coach Kevin Willard has accepted Villanova Basketball's offer to become the program's next head coach, sources confirmed to Jeff Borzello.
News of Willard accepting Villanova's offer was first reported by Inside Maryland Sports.
Wow. Who would have thought that Xavier is a step up from Maryland. Will wonders ever cease?
Quote from: willie warrior on March 30, 2025, 06:30:13 AMWow. Who would have thought that Xavier is a step up from Maryland. Will wonders ever cease?
Uh...what?
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 28, 2025, 07:44:47 PMVillanova needs to just hire Beard and leave Willard to his own demise.
Ole Miss/SEC...better gig than Nova? ...and Nova 'settles' for Willard, imo.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 28, 2025, 09:29:09 PMunnatural carnal knowledge buzz, really.
The big question to me is why is he apparently chasing a job when there is no AD currently? That's messing with your happy before it even starts.
Quote from: Viper on March 30, 2025, 07:33:53 AMOle Miss/SEC...better gig than Nova? ...and Nova 'settles' for Willard, imo.
Yes. Villanova is better. Either they weren't interested or Beard is sticking around the south because that's where he is from.
Definitely would've taken Beard over Willard. But yeah maybe he prefers the south.
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 30, 2025, 07:57:01 AMDefinitely would've taken Beard over Willard. But yeah maybe he prefers the south.
Comes with baggage too though.
I will say that I'm not sure about this hire. His best team at Maryland was this year, and they weren't exactly stellar. He was also OK at Seton Hall, but not great. Feels like a high floor, low ceiling guy.
I would think Maryland goes after Beard. I also don't see Buzz as a good fit at Maryland.
I don't care much for Willard. Think he's pretty overrated. Though, good optics for the big east to poach a coach from a coveted P4 job.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 30, 2025, 09:03:30 AMI don't care much for Willard. Think he's pretty overrated. Though, good optics for the big east to poach a coach from a coveted P4 job.
I don't know how you conclude he's overrated. Look at Seton Hall before and after him. He consistently had them in the upper half of the Big East. Then in just three years, he took Maryland to their highest success in 9 years.
Willard didn't advance in tbe tournament with the Hall but he had some really good teams there. I'm not sure it's a home run hire but he's a pretty good coach.
Villanova just hired a guy who has been a P5 coach for 15 years and has been to 1 Sweet 16. They could've certainly done better.
Do we think this is a move to a basketball school from a Football/Basketball (realize Maryland is more bball) due to the upcoming revenue sharing and plans Maryland may have to put more to football?
Agree with Wades. Baggage or not Beard would've been a better hire. Feels like the baggage has dissipated.
The thing is there have been a number of guys that have seemingly come out of nowhere that wind up being really good coaches. McCollom can definitely coach. Dusty May and McCasland seem to know what they're doing as well. I watched Bryant and that's a well coached team. I think there are a number of coaches on the lower d-1 level that are good. If you give them the resources? They might be better than the splash hires. Recruiting is much different right now with the portal.
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 30, 2025, 09:15:04 AMDo we think this is a move to a basketball school from a Football/Basketball (realize Maryland is more bball) due to the upcoming revenue sharing and plans Maryland may have to put more to football?
I think it has more to do with his frustration with the Maryland administration.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 30, 2025, 09:29:34 AMI think it has more to do with his frustration with the Maryland administration.
But could that be the frustration? The money on bball not being as much as football.
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 30, 2025, 09:33:57 AMBut could that be the frustration? The money on bball not being as much as football.
I think Kevin Willard is as much the problem as anything
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 30, 2025, 09:16:23 AMAgree with Wades. Baggage or not Beard would've been a better hire. Feels like the baggage has dissipated.
By "baggage" do you mean the following?
https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/affidavit-fianc-called-911-to-report-ut-basketball-coach-chris-beard-had-strangled-her
"The woman then described what Beard had done and told police "he choked me, threw me off the bed, bit me, bruises all over my leg, throwing me around and going nuts."
"I just did not feel safe," she explained to the police as to why she had called 911.
Officers asked the fiancée if the choking impeded her breathing to which she replied, "yes, I could not breathe. He did it for probably like five seconds" then she proceeded to demonstrate having an arm across her neck and stated that Beard had an "arm around her neck" while he stood behind her."...
Thanks for posting that. I had the same feeling. It's not like Beard got caught cheating.
There is a reason that beard was not part of the openings this year and clearly it's not because coaches or universities are waiting until the season is over.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 30, 2025, 10:03:11 AMThanks for posting that. I had the same feeling. It's not like Beard got caught cheating.
There is a reason that beard was not part of the openings this year and clearly it's not because coaches or universities are waiting until the season is over.
Yeah, I don't think the baggage disappeared. I think Ole Miss saw a chance to get a great coach and are willing to look past the baggage. I also feel like Villanova could have done better than Willard, even if it wasn't Beard.
I'm not sure if the Cronin rumors ever had any truth.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 30, 2025, 10:09:53 AMI also feel like Villanova could have done better than Willard, even if it wasn't Beard.
And they had
plenty of time since Neptune was pretty much a dead coach walking during the season. With Neptune as a buffer between the Jay Wright era and the next coach, I thought Nova would be able to poach a better guy ready for a new home.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 30, 2025, 10:09:53 AMYeah, I don't think the baggage disappeared. I think Ole Miss saw a chance to get a great coach and are willing to look past the baggage. I also feel like Villanova could have done better than Willard, even if it wasn't Beard.
I'm not sure if the Cronin rumors ever had any truth.
Cronin's buyout is $10 million, fwiw. At least after Monday, it would be $10 million. And he's a pain to deal with, too.
Beard fits fine in Mississippi for a lot of reasons
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 30, 2025, 09:33:57 AMBut could that be the frustration? The money on bball not being as much as football.
no AD there right now. Could be some NIL issues also. Most likely a combination of everything mentioned.
I'm not a Willard fan and the way he behaved the last week plus could have been handled better by him, but I don't blame the move he made.
His AD left. No idea who is coming in and if resources were not great then he needed to make a move and Nova is a very good place to land.
Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 30, 2025, 09:15:04 AMDo we think this is a move to a basketball school from a Football/Basketball (realize Maryland is more bball) due to the upcoming revenue sharing and plans Maryland may have to put more to football?
I think it was a way for Willard to maximize his personal wealth.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 30, 2025, 10:03:11 AMThanks for posting that. I had the same feeling. It's not like Beard got caught cheating.
There is a reason that beard was not part of the openings this year and clearly it's not because coaches or universities are waiting until the season is over.
Indiana's President prohibited the AD from giving Beard any consideration for the opening (even though Beard wanted the IU job) because of his baggage.
Willard is a Worm.
I am surprised that Nova slummed so low to try and win.....
I thought part of the reason the AD left was due to appeasing Willard.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 30, 2025, 10:53:40 AMI thought part of the reason the AD left was due to appeasing Willard.
Or maybe partially due to a perpetually pissed Williard.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 30, 2025, 10:57:09 AMOr maybe partially due to a perpetually pissed Williard.
If that was the case then either the AD was soft or Willard had all the power so why leave.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 30, 2025, 10:40:35 AMI think it was a way for Willard to maximize his personal wealth.
Nothing wrong with that.
New Mex hires the UCSD coach.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 30, 2025, 10:57:09 AMOr maybe partially due to a perpetually pissed Williard.
Scoop has one of those.
Good take IMHO by Bilas on the Willard situation:
https://www.on3.com/news/jay-bilas-calls-out-reaction-of-villanova-hiring-kevin-willard-in-defense-of-players-transfer-portal/
Kevin Willard's decision to leave Maryland early Sunday morning to become Villanova's new head men's basketball coach was the worst-kept secret in college basketball this season. It also revived the ongoing debate about how college coaches are able to freely break signed contracts with one school to go to another, while players are vilified for entering the transfer portal to do the same thing.
During Sunday morning's College GameDay on ESPN, longtime analyst Jay Bilas directly called out the inherent hypocrisy of those two arguments in light of Willard's move, citing many of the overused talking points usually directed at players that opt to transfer while the same criticisms aren't broached when coaches like Willard do the same thing.
"I don't have a problem with Kevin Willard making this move. That's great. Any coach should look to better himself or herself based upon the circumstances and based upon business. These are business decisions," Bilas said Sunday morning. "But one thing you don't hear from the NCAA literati, from the administrators, from (NCAA president) Charlie Baker, you don't hear: 'tampering.' Nobody's saying there was tampering here. This is a coach under contract that a member institution tampered with without permission from the University of Maryland.
"You don't hear about loyalty. Where was Kevin Willard's loyalty here? He made a decision to go to Maryland and signed a long-term contract. Where's the commitment we hear on the part of players? And what about going through adversity? (Willard) didn't want to go through the adversity of oh, he couldn't stay in New York for an extra day. Like, come on, man," Bilas continued. "We say all this stuff about players, but we don't apply that to coaches. That's a contradiction to the point of hypocrisy. I'm not saying don't go, go ahead. But let's not apply these ridiculous rules to the players. It's just not right. And Seth (Greenberg) is right, I've been saying this for over a decade now, sign players to contracts. Negotiate at arm's length with the players or negotiate a collective bargaining agreement."
Of course, negotiating contracts with players or a player's union is currently a non-starter for the NCAA and the conference powers-that-be, which have regularly fought against qualifying college athletes as employees, much the same way the NBA and other professional sports leagues have done for years.
Bilas also took aim at Willard for deflecting questions about his obvious interest in the Villanova (19-14) opening while guiding fourth-seeded Maryland (27-9) to the Sweet Sixteen, where the Terrapins lost to No. 1-seed Florida, 87-71, on Thursday.
"It's more of the same. What you heard from Kevin Willard from the podium at his press conference was, 'I haven't talked to my agent, I don't know what's going on, so I don't know.' He said the exact same thing when he was as Seton Hall and then went to Maryland. The exact same thing," Bilas added. "This is the same playbook. And I hate to break this to coaches, but your agent is your representative. So, whatever your agent is doing you are doing, that's the way agency works."
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Quote from: MU82 on March 30, 2025, 11:53:04 AMGood take IMHO by Bilas on the Willard situation:
https://www.on3.com/news/jay-bilas-calls-out-reaction-of-villanova-hiring-kevin-willard-in-defense-of-players-transfer-portal/
Meh, this pony needs another trick imo. The portal and NIL makes this moot. Now that he can't bemoan players being punished for transferring or not being paid, he's complaining that "players are vilified for entering the transfer portal." No, they're really not, and if they are it still pales in comparison to how Willard is being universally skewered rn. Bilas is inventing a harm that doesn't really exist here just so he can keep beating this drum.
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 30, 2025, 12:19:05 PMMeh, this pony needs another trick imo. The portal and NIL makes this moot. Now that he can't bemoan players being punished for transferring or not being paid, he's complaining that "players are vilified for entering the transfer portal." No, they're really not, and if they are it still pales in comparison to how Willard is being universally skewered rn. Bilas is inventing a harm that doesn't really exist here just so he can keep beating this drum.
Coaches complain about the portal and NIL all the time.
Mike Magpayo is a good hire for Fordham.
Prior to Magpayo's arrival, UC Riverside had a losing record for 2 decades since transitioning from D2 to D1. He's had a winning record as their head coach in 4 of 5 seasons, finishing 3rd in the Big West the only 3 times they have ever done it. He also coached them to their only postseason appearance. And, he has done it all during a difficult financial time at their school.
Magpayo worked with Kyle Smith twice, Todd Golden and some others including the current Columbia HC as well as the current GM of the Cleveland Cavaliers. NYC, The Bay Area, Carolinas and Los Angeles. (He was a long time (10 years) Los Angeles high school coach before he coached college ball.
There are some good coaches in the Big West, Russell Turner, Eric Olen, etc...
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 30, 2025, 12:19:05 PMMeh, this pony needs another trick imo. The portal and NIL makes this moot. Now that he can't bemoan players being punished for transferring or not being paid, he's complaining that "players are vilified for entering the transfer portal." No, they're really not, and if they are it still pales in comparison to how Willard is being universally skewered rn. Bilas is inventing a harm that doesn't really exist here just so he can keep beating this drum.
Right on. "But let's not apply these ridiculous rules to the players." WTF year is he living in?! Bilas is a pompous a-hole.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 30, 2025, 12:20:29 PMCoaches complain about the portal and NIL all the time.
Yes, that there are no rules and anything goes. Not the existence of these.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2025, 10:28:28 AMCronin's buyout is $10 million, fwiw. At least after Monday, it would be $10 million. And he's a pain to deal with, too.
Beard fits fine in Mississippi for a lot of reasons
reasons, such as?
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 30, 2025, 12:25:24 PMYes, that there are no rules and anything goes. Not the existence of these.
Right. Bilas' point is that coaches do this all the time. Yes there are contracts in place, but that doesn't prevent negotiations from happening.
Bilas is also right that the only way to prevent this is to make them employees.
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 30, 2025, 12:19:05 PMMeh, this pony needs another trick imo. The portal and NIL makes this moot. Now that he can't bemoan players being punished for transferring or not being paid, he's complaining that "players are vilified for entering the transfer portal." No, they're really not, and if they are it still pales in comparison to how Willard is being universally skewered rn. Bilas is inventing a harm that doesn't really exist here just so he can keep beating this drum.
Agree to disagree. Plenty of people, from NCAA bigwigs to coaches to ex-coaches in the media to fans, including some here on Scoop, still vilify players for getting paid and having freedom of movement. And Willard 100% deserves to be universally skewered.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 30, 2025, 12:32:08 PMRight. Bilas' point is that coaches do this all the time. Yes there are contracts in place, but that doesn't prevent negotiations from happening.
Bilas is also right that the only way to prevent this is to make them employees.
Yep, and yep.
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 30, 2025, 12:19:05 PMMeh, this pony needs another trick imo. The portal and NIL makes this moot. Now that he can't bemoan players being punished for transferring or not being paid, he's complaining that "players are vilified for entering the transfer portal." No, they're really not, and if they are it still pales in comparison to how Willard is being universally skewered rn. Bilas is inventing a harm that doesn't really exist here just so he can keep beating this drum.
No one vilifies players for portalling? That's not close to accurate statement
Nm
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 30, 2025, 01:08:19 PMNo one vilifies players for portalling? That's not close to accurate statement
Been doing it way before "portal" was a thing. Fans do it to free agents in other sports. It's as ubiquitous as vilifying refs, coaches, politicians, etc. It will always be here.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 30, 2025, 01:43:56 PMBeen doing it way before "portal" was a thing. Fans do it to free agents in other sports. It's as ubiquitous as vilifying refs, coaches, politicians, etc. It will always be here.
Refs, sure. Politicians are usually vilified for a reason. Coaches and free agents don't get it nearly as bad as players who transfer
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 30, 2025, 01:48:13 PMRefs, sure. Politicians are usually vilified for a reason. Coaches and free agents don't get it nearly as bad as players who transfer
That's because players get a free education and are there to entertain me
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 30, 2025, 01:48:13 PMRefs, sure. Politicians are usually vilified for a reason. Coaches and free agents don't get it nearly as bad as players who transfer
It's all subjective.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 30, 2025, 01:58:25 PMIt's all subjective.
What does that even mean?
Anyway, professional coaches have long ago come to grips with free agency. College coaches are acting like their whole world is ending with the transfer portal and NIL.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 30, 2025, 01:48:13 PMRefs, sure. Politicians are usually vilified for a reason. Coaches and free agents don't get it nearly as bad as players who transfer
Eh ... it's completely localized, though.
Nobody outside of Wisconsin fandom is mad when a Badger transfers. Some fanbases even celebrate it. I don't recall a lot of rage or tears on Scoop last year when Storr and Hepburn left Madison.
The entire college basketball-watching country (outside of Nova) is bashing Kevin Willard.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 30, 2025, 02:00:03 PMWhat does that even mean?
Anyway, professional coaches have long ago come to grips with free agency. College coaches are acting like their whole world is ending with the transfer portal and NIL.
Can you give me five examples where Shaka has acted like his whole world is ending?
Maybe you are painting with broad strokes to make your subjective point? Maybe?
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 30, 2025, 02:06:46 PMCan you give me five examples where Shaka has acted like his whole world is ending?
Maybe you are painting with broad strokes to make your subjective point? Maybe?
Whatever the case, ratings are up and the level of play has been as high as it's been for a long time. Long live the portal. Guess the old heads who retired bemoaning the sport they once knew were wrong. Like usual.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 30, 2025, 02:06:46 PMCan you give me five examples where Shaka has acted like his whole world is ending?
Maybe you are painting with broad strokes to make your subjective point? Maybe?
Shaka? No. But you are being disingenous if you don't admit that you can easily Google coaches complaining about the current state of basketball.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2025, 02:12:16 PMGuess the old heads who retired bemoaning the sport they once knew were wrong. Like usual.
You could also say they were right...to choose retirement.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 30, 2025, 02:00:27 PMEh ... it's completely localized, though.
Nobody outside of Wisconsin fandom is mad when a Badger transfers. Some fanbases even celebrate it. I don't recall a lot of rage or tears on Scoop last year when Storr and Hepburn left Madison.
The entire college basketball-watching country (outside of Nova) is bashing Kevin Willard.
Maybe if you limit your scope to individual transfers. But it's not hard to find a lot of examples about transfers in general. Kevin Willard May be catching some flak but most coaching changes go by without any significant negative commentary. No ones criticizing coaches in general for switching jobs (except about the hyprocrisy when compared to players).
Also Willard isnt getting flak for switching jobs. It's for how he's handled it. If a player did similar they would be similarly criticized and reasonable people wouldn't take issue with it
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 30, 2025, 02:16:45 PMYou could also say they were right...to choose retirement.
Indeed, and I don't blame them. They don't owe it to anyone to adapt to the new rules.
But failing to understand the sport constantly evolves and will move on without them is pure arrogance. It's no different than old baseball players complaining about modern baseball.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2025, 02:19:00 PMIndeed, and I don't blame them. They don't owe it to anyone to adapt to the new rules.
But failing to understand the sport constantly evolves and will move on without them is pure arrogance. It's no different than old baseball players complaining about modern baseball.
College basketball just isn't the same without Roy Williams and Tony Bennett roaming the sidelines.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 30, 2025, 02:12:57 PMShaka? No. But you are being disingenous if you don't admit that you can easily Google coaches complaining about the current state of basketball.
There are always complaints. Name me one sport where someone is not complaining about the current state of the sport?
You have to admit yourself that the validity of the complaint is usually subjective. Some are complaining about the timing of the portal opening; are they "old head" whiners or valid? There are people on both sides.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 30, 2025, 02:23:26 PMThere are always complaints. Name me one sport where someone is not complaining about the current state of the sport?
You have to admit yourself that the validity of the complaint is usually subjective. Some are complaining about the timing of the portal opening; are they "old head" whiners or valid? There are people on both sides.
So, you've decided to go the disingenous route. Gotcha.
It's perfectly fine to be ok with the portal and still want guardrails and not think unlimited free agency every season is good for the sport.
Maybe they have to be employees .....I don't really care ....but this free for all every offseason isn't my preference and I don't know any fans that I have talked to who particularly like it.......even if they are fine with players making money which most are.
Find the middle ground.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 30, 2025, 02:20:58 PMCollege basketball just isn't the same without Roy Williams and Tony Bennett roaming the sidelines.
Tom Oates is still incredulous the sport is being played without Tony
Quote from: The Sultan on March 30, 2025, 02:24:33 PMSo, you've decided to go the disingenous route. Gotcha.
Thank you. 8-)
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2025, 02:12:16 PMWhatever the case, ratings are up and the level of play has been as high as it's been for a long time. Long live the portal. Guess the old heads who retired bemoaning the sport they once knew were wrong. Like usual.
Two things can be true.
The game is different and if a guy doesn't want to coach in that environment, that's fine. It's pretty clear MU's coach doesn't want to coach in that environment either. He's just trying to succeed doing it the old way.
And it's not so much the portal that's improved the level of play as it is NIL money giving borderline pro prospects incentive to stay in college + the COVID year. Guys like Mark Sears and Johni Broome probably aren't still in college if their schools couldn't compete with Euro league salaries.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 30, 2025, 02:40:17 PMTwo things can be true.
The game is different and if a guy doesn't want to coach in that environment, that's fine. It's pretty clear MU's coach doesn't want to coach in that environment either. He's just trying to succeed doing it the old way.
And it's not so much the portal that's improved the level of play as it is NIL money giving borderline pro prospects incentive to stay in college + the COVID year. Guys like Mark Sears and Johni Broome probably aren't still in college if their schools couldn't compete with Euro league salaries.
Shaka is coaching his way in this era. If he didn't want to coach, he'd stop.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2025, 02:43:19 PMShaka is coaching his way in this era. If he didn't want to coach, he'd stop.
He's one of many who are still coaching. And for every one who doesn't want to coach any longer, there are dozens who will gladly take their place.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2025, 02:43:19 PMShaka is coaching his way in this era. If he didn't want to coach, he'd stop.
Right, but that's not what I wrote.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 30, 2025, 02:47:45 PMRight, but that's not what I wrote.
There are multiple ways to coach in any era.
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on March 27, 2025, 01:43:30 PMI can't for the life of me understand why Villanova wants this dude to be their coach.
I mean, he won consistently at f*cking seton hall and got Maryland to a S16 in year 3. I can understand it.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 30, 2025, 03:05:21 PMI mean, he won consistently at f*cking seton hall and got Maryland to a S16 in year 3. I can understand it.
I agree. Maybe he's an ass but his resume is pretty damn good.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2025, 02:19:00 PMIndeed, and I don't blame them. They don't owe it to anyone to adapt to the new rules.
But failing to understand the sport constantly evolves and will move on without them is pure arrogance. It's no different than old baseball players complaining about modern baseball.
I completely agree with this. But for the sea change NIL and the portal are to the sport, a vast majority of coaches, fans, and university athletic departments have adjusted well. Sure there are some holdouts, but they aren't a cultural or institutional obstacle to players' wellbeing anymore, and I think Jay Bilas's primary motivation for framing it that way is to try to score lazy points.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 30, 2025, 03:33:13 PMI agree. Maybe he's an ass but his resume is pretty damn good.
He'd be a good hire for a program that hasn't recently won 2 national titles. Nova should want better than a guy with 1 Sweet 16.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 30, 2025, 04:01:55 PMHe'd be a good hire for a program that hasn't recently won 2 national titles. Nova should want better than a guy with 1 Sweet 16.
Who else is available
Quote from: Johnny B on March 30, 2025, 04:04:32 PMWho else is available
Nobody now. They knew all year (and last year to be honest) that Neptune was a dead man walking. Why they wanted to wait for Willard to be done this year is crazy for a program like Nova.
We keep acting like you can get those guys at your local CVS. By that logic, Nova should have gone after Crean, as at least he has a final 4. DeVries and McCollum have how many D1 sweet 16's between them? Shaka was a guy Texas no longer wanted. Every coaching choice is a gamble. Willard is a gamble. But he is an experienced D1 coach. That puts Villanova ahead of the game.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 30, 2025, 04:01:55 PMHe'd be a good hire for a program that hasn't recently won 2 national titles. Nova should want better than a guy with 1 Sweet 16.
This is basically every program who's trying to replace a transformative coach. I mean UConn 'settled' for Dan Hurley with this line of thought.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2025, 02:12:16 PMWhatever the case, ratings are up and the level of play has been as high as it's been for a long time. Long live the portal. Guess the old heads who retired bemoaning the sport they once knew were wrong. Like usual.
I find all change terrifying and the world should change to better suit my comfortable mundane life, not the other way around.
Hurley, Devries, McCollum didn't have 15 years of Power 5 coaching to try to get to more than 1 Sweet Sixteen. Or a single Elite 8.
Give me Chris Mack over Kevin Willard every single day of the week.
Quote from: tower912 on March 30, 2025, 04:07:28 PMWe keep acting like you can get those guys at your local CVS. By that logic, Nova should have gone after Crean, as at least he has a final 4. DeVries and McCollum have how many D1 sweet 16's between them? Shaka was a guy Texas no longer wanted. Every coaching choice is a gamble. Willard is a gamble. But he is an experienced D1 coach. That puts Villanova ahead of the game.
Not everyone has a pipeline like MU and Wardle
Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 30, 2025, 04:12:56 PMNot everyone has a pipeline like MU and Wardle
MU and Wardle?
What do you know?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 30, 2025, 04:14:28 PMMU and Wardle?
What do you know?
I heard dentists who are in the know whispering about it in the corner of my local militia meeting.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 30, 2025, 04:14:28 PMMU and Wardle?
What do you know?
How to stir the pot.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 30, 2025, 04:12:10 PMHurley, Devries, McCollum didn't have 15 years of Power 5 coaching to try to get to more than 1 Sweet Sixteen. Or a single Elite 8.
Give me Chris Mack over Kevin Willard every single day of the week.
Yeah I don't know about that... Was handed a good situation at X and was way over his head at Louisville.
Quote from: MuMark on March 30, 2025, 02:25:06 PMIt's perfectly fine to be ok with the portal and still want guardrails and not think unlimited free agency every season is good for the sport.
Maybe they have to be employees .....I don't really care ....but this free for all every offseason isn't my preference and I don't know any fans that I have talked to who particularly like it.......even if they are fine with players making money which most are.
Find the middle ground.
Yes, to really get guardrails within this industry now, you need to let the employees unionize and then agree to terms via collective bargaining.
But at this point, maybe basketball and football players don't even want to unionize. They now have total freedom of movement and no limit on the amount of $$ they can earn. Should they agree to concessions to help out an industry that happily took advantage of them for 100+ years?
At this point, it certainly can't be changed by decree.
Capitalism and freedom at their finest!
Wardle to Maryland? He can keep those red shoes in the rotation.
Quote from: PJDunn on March 30, 2025, 04:37:27 PMWardle to Maryland? He can keep those red shoes in the rotation.
Would make sense. Then he can pull a Willard and leave during the tournament for the big east
I could see tha
Quote from: The Sultan on March 30, 2025, 04:18:55 PMYeah I don't know about that... Was handed a good situation and was way over his head at Louisville.
I could see that if he had 3 good years and made the jump. He was at Xavier for 9 years. He wasn't just living off of Sean Miller 9 years later.
I'm not sure he was "over his head" at Louisville either. He made the Tourney year 1 and was a 4 seed in Bracket Matrix year 2 before the season got cancelled. Year 3 was bad but also it was a short covid season and year 4 he stepped down.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 30, 2025, 04:42:39 PMI could see tha
I could see that if he had 3 good years and made the jump. He was at Xavier for 9 years. He wasn't just living off of Sean Miller 9 years later.
I'm not sure he was "over his head" at Louisville either. He made the Tourney year 1 and was a 4 seed in Bracket Matrix year 2 before the season got cancelled. Year 3 was bad but also it was a short covid season and year 4 he stepped down.
Sultan is exactly right that he was over his head. Try selling a Mack hire on the Villanova fan base after it went off the rails only 4 years in at Louisville. It was so bad at the end a player declined comment if they were still listening to Mack. He was done no surprise right after.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 30, 2025, 05:02:42 PMSultan is exactly right that he was over his head. Try selling a Mack hire on the Villanova fan base after it went off the rails only 4 years in at Louisville. It was so bad at the end a player declined comment if they were still listening to Mack. He was done no surprise right after.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3096709/2022/01/27/how-chris-mack-fell-so-hard-so-fast-at-louisville-he-just-didnt-handle-all-of-this-very-well/
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 30, 2025, 05:03:10 PMhttps://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3096709/2022/01/27/how-chris-mack-fell-so-hard-so-fast-at-louisville-he-just-didnt-handle-all-of-this-very-well/
Sultan nailed it. "He was over his head".
Quote from: wadesworld on March 30, 2025, 04:12:10 PMHurley, Devries, McCollum didn't have 15 years of Power 5 coaching to try to get to more than 1 Sweet Sixteen. Or a single Elite 8.
Give me Chris Mack over Kevin Willard every single day of the week.
I think it's entirely feasible being at seton hall held him back significantly, seeing what that program has been since he's been gone.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 30, 2025, 05:28:28 PMI think it's entirely feasible being at seton hall held him back significantly, seeing what that program has been since he's been gone.
They were lousy before except Carlesimo years
I don't know if this has been posted elsewhere but I found this quite interesting.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/historic-college-basketball-team-loses-its-entire-roster-to-the-ncaa-transfer-portal/ar-AA1BWMxD?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5a34c1de2ff44b48ba403faa47e72f7d&ei=18
The information was posted in the transfer portal thread.
Put it this way. I'll be very surprised if Willard has the success at Nova, an inarguably better program than Xavier, that Mack had in 9 years at Xavier.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 30, 2025, 06:25:54 PMThey were lousy before except Carlesimo years
At one point around 2010 the BE leadership told them to step up their financial commitment or risk being left behind when the inevitable split happened.
The only reason Seton Hall got into the Big East was because they wanted a New Jersey team and Rutgers turned them down.
The Athletic on who will get the Maryland gig:
Beard, Byington or Williams, if — and that's a big "if" — Maryland can convince any of them to give up their SEC gigs. All three led their teams to the NCAA Tournament this season and would seemingly ensure there's no drop-off in College Park. (Byington is probably the most gettable of the three, and his regional ties are a bonus, even if he's not a "big" name.) But there's no guarantee any of the three would be willing to leave the SEC — in which case, the Terps could do a lot worse than bringing back former assistant Tony Skinn (now running George Mason's program). Skinn's star feels like it's on the rise, and while Maryland might be hiring him a cycle too early, that's better than the alternative: waiting too long and missing out.
Quote from: MU82 on March 31, 2025, 09:15:34 AMThe Athletic on who will get the Maryland gig:
Beard, Byington or Williams, if — and that's a big "if" — Maryland can convince any of them to give up their SEC gigs. All three led their teams to the NCAA Tournament this season and would seemingly ensure there's no drop-off in College Park. (Byington is probably the most gettable of the three, and his regional ties are a bonus, even if he's not a "big" name.) But there's no guarantee any of the three would be willing to leave the SEC — in which case, the Terps could do a lot worse than bringing back former assistant Tony Skinn (now running George Mason's program). Skinn's star feels like it's on the rise, and while Maryland might be hiring him a cycle too early, that's better than the alternative: waiting too long and missing out.
Beard is CLEARLY the best coach of the bunch, but also CLEARLY the most controversial. Tough decision for Maryland. The fact that Buzz has interest is hilarious to me. He'd move onto Oklahoma State or some other school like that in 5 or 6 years anyways.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2025, 09:45:23 AMBeard is CLEARLY the best coach of the bunch, but also CLEARLY the most controversial. Tough decision for Maryland. The fact that Buzz has interest is hilarious to me. He'd move onto Oklahoma State or some other school like that in 5 or 6 years anyways.
Have to think eventually Buzz will run out of storylines/excuses. Eventually he's just a solid not great coach who gets antsy. There's no "love for the B12" no "my hearts in Texas" just a weird guy who hits his ceiling quick and wants out before people start asking for more
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2025, 09:50:28 AMHave to think eventually Buzz will run out of storylines/excuses. Eventually he's just a solid not great coach who gets antsy. There's no "love for the B12" no "my hearts in Texas" just a weird guy who hits his ceiling quick and wants out before people start asking for more
Barring some major, major pulls in the portal, its seems certain A&M is going to take a step back next year. That, combined with never getting out of the second weekend in the tournament, would probably start warming Buzz's seat down there. He may be looking for an out before that happens.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2025, 09:50:28 AMHave to think eventually Buzz will run out of storylines/excuses. Eventually he's just a solid not great coach who gets antsy. There's no "love for the B12" no "my hearts in Texas" just a weird guy who hits his ceiling quick and wants out before people start asking for more
And he's only 52!
I agree with you that he's solid but not great. Hasn't come close to repeating his success at Marquette, and really has left no legacy wherever he has gone. I know MU's athletic department wants little to do with him, unlike other former coaches - even those who left like O'Neill and Crean.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 31, 2025, 09:54:55 AMBarring some major, major pulls in the portal, its seems certain A&M is going to take a step back next year. That, combined with never getting out of the second weekend in the tournament, would probably start warming Buzz's seat down there. He may be looking for an out before that happens.
That's exactly it, but the thing is Buzz's personal PR always tries to push it as some type of emotional storyline. This time he'd be leaving his dream job so what's he going to say "they left the B12 and it just doesn't feel like home anymore, unlike Maryland"
Quote from: The Sultan on March 31, 2025, 09:56:22 AMAnd he's only 52!
I agree with you that he's solid but not great. Hasn't come close to repeating his success at Marquette, and really has left no legacy wherever he has gone. I know MU's athletic department wants little to do with him, unlike other former coaches - even those who left like O'Neill and Crean.
Lennys thought he was the next Al, lol.
Yeah, solid coach but extremely odd guy who's paranoid always has him on the move.
Quote from: MU82 on March 31, 2025, 09:15:34 AMThe Athletic on who will get the Maryland gig:
Beard, Byington or Williams, if — and that's a big "if" — Maryland can convince any of them to give up their SEC gigs. All three led their teams to the NCAA Tournament this season and would seemingly ensure there's no drop-off in College Park. (Byington is probably the most gettable of the three, and his regional ties are a bonus, even if he's not a "big" name.) But there's no guarantee any of the three would be willing to leave the SEC — in which case, the Terps could do a lot worse than bringing back former assistant Tony Skinn (now running George Mason's program). Skinn's star feels like it's on the rise, and while Maryland might be hiring him a cycle too early, that's better than the alternative: waiting too long and missing out.
I think that's wishful thinking for Byington. Vanderbilt has shown it will pay big money for a HC and its staff. (Previous HC made just under $4 million.) They paid a lot of NIL money to field Byington's first team, an NCAA Team. The SEC had the best league this past season and they will secure roughly $70 million for the league in the NCAA Tourney. Basketball is a priority sport there. Here is their new 90k square feet, 3 story practice facility which just opened a few months ago:
https://vanderbilthustler.com/2025/01/24/administration-vanderbilt-dedicates-brand-new-basketball-facility-huber-center/
https://x.com/vucommodores/status/1882982957889282118?s=46
Last thought on buzz. Has anyone wondered where his career would be if he hadn't inherited the 3 amigos and lazar? I mean the guys clearly talented but he got absurdly lucky falling into an upper tier big east job, after a single sub .500 year as a low major coach, inheriting 4 upper classmen that are in top echelon of MU's all time players.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2025, 10:13:50 AMLast thought on buzz. Has anyone wondered where his career would be if he hadn't inherited the 3 amigos and lazar? I mean the guys clearly talented but he got absurdly lucky falling into an upper tier big east job, after a single sub .500 year as a low major coach, inheriting 4 upper classmen that are in top echelon of MU's all time players.
Buzz was always the traveling salesman. He'd have gotten where he is today, somehow, someway.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2025, 10:13:50 AMLast thought on buzz. Has anyone wondered where his career would be if he hadn't inherited the 3 amigos and lazar? I mean the guys clearly talented but he got absurdly lucky falling into an upper tier big east job, after a single sub .500 year as a low major coach, inheriting 4 upper classmen that are in top echelon of MU's all time players.
I mean his greatest success happened 3-4 years after they graduated. So I don't think thats fair. If James doesn't get hurt and they make a run to the FF or more, then its maybe a valid discussion. But I don't think his career was made off a team that finished 5th in the BE and a second round exit, and I don't think thats what allowed him to build the rosters he did.
I'm not a Buzz fan, and really not interested in him since he left MU, but an honest assessment is he is a great DI coach and a very good P5 coach.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 31, 2025, 10:24:48 AMI mean his greatest success happened 3-4 years after they graduated. So I don't think thats fair. If James doesn't get hurt and they make a run to the FF or more, then its maybe a valid discussion. But I don't think his career was made off a team that finished 5th in the BE and a second round exit, and I don't think thats what allowed him to build the rosters he did.
I meant more of how he'd have done working his way up as an assistant or having to go back through the low majors.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 31, 2025, 10:30:31 AMI'm not a Buzz fan, and really not interested in him since he left MU, but an honest assessment is he is a great DI coach and a very good P5 coach.
He's been to one Sweet 16 in the 11 seasons since he left Marquette. Here are his respective conference finishes: 15, 7, 7, 7, 5, 6, 14, 5, 2, 7, 5. (He did get to the SEC Championship game a couple times however.)
I'm not sure how "great" that is.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2025, 10:05:10 AMThat's exactly it, but the thing is Buzz's personal PR always tries to push it as some type of emotional storyline. This time he'd be leaving his dream job so what's he going to say "they left the B12 and it just doesn't feel like home anymore, unlike Maryland"
That last line would be a tough sell given that TAMU left for the SEC before Buzz left for Virginia Tech
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 31, 2025, 10:57:40 AMThat last line would be a tough sell given that TAMU left for the SEC before Buzz left for Virginia Tech
Buzz doesn't let the truth get in the way of a good narrative.
I think what drove Buzz's success at MU was knowing the JUCO landscape better than almost all D1 head coaches. It allowed him to recruit some very good players to MU that had development. Then, he was able to make the Elite Eight with a mostly veteran team since he hit on some high school recruits and Jamil.
I think the Amigos biggest help to the future success was allowing Jimmy to come along slowly and start in a niche role.
I'm not sure if he's still able to leverage the JUCO route as well or if things have changed.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 31, 2025, 10:34:54 AMHe's been to one Sweet 16 in the 11 seasons since he left Marquette. Here are his respective conference finishes: 15, 7, 7, 7, 5, 6, 14, 5, 2, 7, 5. (He did get to the SEC Championship game a couple times however.)
I'm not sure how "great" that is.
For DI, it is great. For P5 I said "very good", but I could agree to "good". IMO, getting a P5 job generally puts you in the very good to great category out of 350ish coaches.
The VT job was not great when he took over. I don't like him but if I take my blue and gold glasses off, I can see why he is in demand.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 31, 2025, 12:30:59 PMFor DI, it is great. For P5 I said "very good", but I could agree to "good". IMO, getting a P5 job generally puts you in the very good to great category out of 350ish coaches.
The VT job was not great when he took over. I don't like him but if I take my blue and gold glasses off, I can see why he is in demand.
He's in demand because he's very good at putting his name out there via his media buddies
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 31, 2025, 12:30:59 PMIMO, getting a P5 job generally puts you in the very good to great category out of 350ish coaches.
You'd think ... but a lot of not-so-good coaches have had such jobs over the years. We had one quite recently.
Buzz has been a good coach. Helped turn around two struggling programs but ultimately left (or is trying to leave) without having nearly as much success as he had at Marquette.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 31, 2025, 10:30:31 AMI'm not a Buzz fan, and really not interested in him since he left MU, but an honest assessment is he is a great DI coach and a very good P5 coach.
He's a good coach, but that's about where it stops.
He has 4 Sweet 16s and 3 of them were with Marquette.
Quote from: The Sultan on March 30, 2025, 02:00:03 PMWhat does that even mean?
Anyway, professional coaches have long ago come to grips with free agency. College coaches are acting like their whole world is ending with the transfer portal and NIL.
Pro coaches don't have it nearly as bad as college coaches. In college, every player on every team is a free agent every year. It's the wild west. At least there are buyouts for coaches.
I want to be clear that I do not for one second hold a grudge against any player moving wherever they want for whatever reason they want.
Quote from: MU82 on March 31, 2025, 01:05:24 PMYou'd think ... but a lot of not-so-good coaches have had such jobs over the years. We had one quite recently.
I disagree that Wojo was a "not-so-good" college coach. I would say he was was in the top 150 maybe 100 college coaches.
Not good enough for MU or maybe any P5 program, but he ran a clean program with good people and some very good talent. The coaching aspect of being a college coach was not P5 great and maybe not even good.
His record of 124-93 with two NCAA appearances(both loses) at MU doesn't speak anything remotely to "good" ... with all the resources and good will he had I would label him a "bad" coach. Will never forget that look he would have on his face when he got out-coached late in games!
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 31, 2025, 03:11:21 PMI disagree that Wojo was a "not-so-good" college coach. I would say he was was in the top 150 maybe 100 college coaches.
Not good enough for MU or maybe any P5 program, but he ran a clean program with good people and some very good talent. The coaching aspect of being a college coach was not P5 great and maybe not even good.
Marquette was his only HC job. The Hauser fiasco is what he is remembered for. He said he was surprised when it happened. Did any school-even a mid major-attempt to hire him? If so, that would be news to me.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2025, 01:06:20 PMHe's a good coach, but that's about where it stops.
He has 4 Sweet 16s and 3 of them were with Marquette.
He is even better as the downhome lonesome cowboy.
Quote from: MU86NC on March 31, 2025, 03:26:00 PMHis record of 124-93 with two NCAA appearances(both loses) at MU doesn't speak anything remotely to "good" ... with all the resources and good will he had I would label him a "bad" coach. Will never forget that look he would have on his face when he got out-coached late in games!
All fair. His quality of coaching is in the eye of the beholder. I believe he would have has 3 NCAATs except for COVID. He was not a quality coach for MU, but there are probably a dozen or more P5 programs that would have been excited for his level of success.
That said, you position is valid even if I don't agree 100%. I like your point about the level of resources MU provides and that has to be taken into account. I'm still a No-Jo!
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 31, 2025, 02:26:54 PMPro coaches don't have it nearly as bad as college coaches. In college, every player on every team is a free agent every year. It's the wild west. At least there are buyouts for coaches.
I want to be clear that I do not for one second hold a grudge against any player moving wherever they want for whatever reason they want.
NBA free agency is also rigged to give a player's current team a market advantage over other teams by allowing them offer contracts a year (or two, in some circumstances) longer.
It's not an apples-to-apples comparison with the portal.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 31, 2025, 04:21:21 PMNBA free agency is also rigged to give a player's current team a market advantage over other teams by allowing them offer contracts a year (or two, in some circumstances) longer.
It's not an apples-to-apples comparison with the portal.
And current team can pay more money to max players.........and bird rights allow teams to over the cap to keep current players.........they definitely try to give teams a better opportunity to keep their own......and it's worked pretty well.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 31, 2025, 03:11:21 PMI disagree that Wojo was a "not-so-good" college coach. I would say he was was in the top 150 maybe 100 college coaches.
Not good enough for MU or maybe any P5 program, but he ran a clean program with good people and some very good talent. The coaching aspect of being a college coach was not P5 great and maybe not even good.
Hmm.
Is there any world in which Shaka would leave us for the open Maryland spot?
There is a world, I am sure. If you are into that infinite alternate universe thing.
Quote from: zcg2013 on March 31, 2025, 07:52:44 PMIs there any world in which Shaka would leave us for the open Maryland spot?
People are saying it's his dream job.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 31, 2025, 04:13:19 PMAll fair. His quality of coaching is in the eye of the beholder. I believe he would have has 3 NCAATs except for COVID. He was not a quality coach for MU, but there are probably a dozen or more P5 programs that would have been excited for his level of success.
That said, you position is valid even if I don't agree 100%. I like your point about the level of resources MU provides and that has to be taken into account. I'm still a No-Jo!
One of them surely hired him then
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2025, 10:13:50 AMLast thought on buzz. Has anyone wondered where his career would be if he hadn't inherited the 3 amigos and lazar? I mean the guys clearly talented but he got absurdly lucky falling into an upper tier big east job, after a single sub .500 year as a low major coach, inheriting 4 upper classmen that are in top echelon of MU's all time players.
Don't we all wish we had that kind of luck in our careers. I would also ask do you think Crean would have had the same success with those same players if he had not taken the Indiana job? Of course, will never know, but Buzz succeeded on the court given that opportunity; the off the court issues notwithstanding.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 01, 2025, 10:55:16 AMI would also ask do you think Crean would have had the same success with those same players if he had not taken the Indiana job?
He definitely could have. Would we have retained Tyshawn Taylor? Would Buzz have still been an assistant and landed Jimmy Butler?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 01, 2025, 10:55:16 AMDon't we all wish we had that kind of luck in our careers. I would also ask do you think Crean would have had the same success with those same players if he had not taken the Indiana job? Of course, will never know, but Buzz succeeded on the court given that opportunity; the off the court issues notwithstanding.
We quite literally do know with almost the exact same core group (Jimmy for Mbakwe)
In 2008 we went 25-10, 5th in big east, lost a close game in the round of 32 as a 6 seed.
In 2009 we went... 25-10, 5th in big east, lost a close game in the round of 32 as a 6 seed.
https://x.com/On3sports/status/1907126778059170268
https://x.com/JacobScottDavis/status/1907129616172462212
Willie's a big Buzz fan so he should be excited about this news, especially with Maryland coming to Fiserv in the fall.
He waits until the local Buzz's bunch start to approach the age of needing tuition assistance and bolts
Has MU ever hosted an ex-coach?
Quote from: Dish on April 01, 2025, 01:10:52 PMHas MU ever hosted an ex-coach?
I know we played Kevin O'Neill in a pre-season tournament awhile back. Can't think of one coming to Milwaukee though.
Someone must have messed with happy. Again.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 01, 2025, 01:08:32 PMHe waits until the local Buzz's bunch start to approach the age of needing tuition assistance and bolts
The ol' Scotts Tots approach.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 01, 2025, 01:08:32 PMHe waits until the local Buzz's bunch start to approach the age of needing tuition assistance and bolts
A real Scott's Tots situation.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 01, 2025, 01:08:32 PMHe waits until the local Buzz's bunch start to approach the age of needing tuition assistance and bolts
He better kiss the rings in the DMV area or they'll lose 501(c)(3) status
Quote from: Dish on April 01, 2025, 01:10:52 PMHas MU ever hosted an ex-coach?
Got one for you.
December 20, 1975 - Northwestern and Tex Winter take on Marquette at the MECCA
Quote from: #UnleashSean on April 01, 2025, 01:13:40 PMSomeone must have messed with happy. Again.
Dude can't catch a break.
Len Elmore is going to be pissed.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/2025/03/31/former-maryland-basketball-players-incensed-after-kevin-willard-exit/ (https://www.baltimoresun.com/2025/03/31/former-maryland-basketball-players-incensed-after-kevin-willard-exit/)
It feels like this is a pretty nice upgrade for MD.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 01, 2025, 11:18:18 AMHe definitely could have. Would we have retained Tyshawn Taylor? Would Buzz have still been an assistant and landed Jimmy Butler?
I think Taylor would have left as he blew up as a senior and likely got some money from Bill Self, but we would have retained Nick Williams who had a pretty solid career and IU and Ole Miss.
Good question on Butler. My guess is Buzz was already on him and I don't remember what other schools he had offers from.
Texas AM fans seem to be happy with the news
Thought he did a pretty good job there but fans always seem to think the next guy will do better.
He does tend to where out his welcome.........Maryland seems like an odd fit for a good old boy from Texas.
Looks like Buzz coming to Fiserv this year
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 01, 2025, 01:32:25 PMI think Taylor would have left as he blew up as a senior and likely got some money from Bill Self, but we would have retained Nick Williams who had a pretty solid career and IU and Ole Miss.
Good question on Butler. My guess is Buzz was already on him and I don't remember what other schools he had offers from.
I thought Jimmy had interest from UK. That was from Billy Gillespie.
Who does A&M go after? Early names I've seen are Beard and Underwood.
Willard had stated that Maryland did not have the appropriate resources, which I do not understand. Maryland has some big boosters, plays in a huge, nice arena, their new $50 million basketball players center opens in the fall and they have use of the $150 million Under Armour football center, which Under Armour owner and Terp alumni Kevin Plank built.
Terps had to move quick with new coach due to the fact Maryland had no AD, no coach, no players and now no recruits.
Starters
Julian Reece, senior gone
Selton Melton, senior gone
Derrick Queen, to NBA
Jakobi Gillespie, to portal
Rodney Rice, to portal
Others
Jordan Geronimo, senior gone
Dashawn Harris Smith, to portal
Tafara Gape, to portal
Jay Young, to portal
Recruit
Chris Jeffrey, a top 70 underrated recruit, gone. Only recruit.
Good luck to Buzz and his complete overall required.
Kinda think that unless you hire from within, the entire roster is going to portal. I mean, I would as a player. They may end up back there, but it doesn't hurt to explore your options.
Buzz should try to sign notable currently portalling Tre Norman
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 01, 2025, 03:42:05 PMBuzz should try to sign notable currently portalling Tre Norman
He's probably itching to convince the money heads over in college park to drop a bag for Parham.
That would really make for a fun trip to FiServ
Quote from: DoctorV on April 01, 2025, 03:49:03 PMHe's probably itching to convince the money heads over in college park to drop a bag for Parham.
That would really make for a fun trip to FiServ
So should we drop the bag to keep our own players, or drop the bag to get portal players?
Quote from: wadesworld on April 01, 2025, 03:50:12 PMSo should we drop the bag to keep our own players, or drop the bag to get portal players?
How about players recognize they're getting a free education and humble themselves before the lord
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 01, 2025, 03:53:51 PMHow about players recognize they're getting a free education and humble themselves before the lord
As they should. Can't believe my money might contribute to these kids who have always entertained me for free until the last few years.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 01, 2025, 01:22:21 PMGot one for you.
December 20, 1975 - Northwestern and Tex Winter take on Marquette at the MECCA
Milwaukee Arena :)
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 01, 2025, 01:13:33 PMI know we played Kevin O'Neill in a pre-season tournament awhile back. Can't think of one coming to Milwaukee though.
Pretty sure that was Maui right? I know I was there wherever it was. O'Neills language is a lot easier to hear in those smaller venues!
I'm really surprised Maryland went that route.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 01, 2025, 06:19:56 PMI'm really surprised Maryland went that route.
They'll get another chance in 6 years or so
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 01, 2025, 06:24:30 PMThey'll get another chance in 6 years or so
I think it's a terrible fit.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 01, 2025, 06:19:56 PMI'm really surprised Maryland went that route.
It does say something about the 'seemingly rich' of college sports. Reeks of 'how do we keep this going' versus trying to cultivate engagement with alumni. I know they didn't have many choices but it feels predestined to not work over 4-6 years.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 01, 2025, 06:28:20 PMI think it's a terrible fit.
Is anyone a good fit for Buzz?
Quote from: The Sultan on April 01, 2025, 06:39:55 PMIs anyone a good fit for Buzz?
The CBS studio after his team loses early, apparently
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 01, 2025, 06:28:20 PMI think it's a terrible fit.
So..the downhome lonesome cowboy comes home to the lobster and crabcakes of the eastern shore. You are right. The fit seems odd. There are not too many bars in Maryland that do the Texas two step or the boot scooting boogie...so I have heard.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 01, 2025, 07:44:17 PMSo..the downhome lonesome cowboy comes home to the lobster and crabcakes of the eastern shore. You are right. The fit seems odd. There are not too many bars in Maryland that do the Texas two step or the boot scooting boogie...so I have heard.
I hear Bub's Barbecue is not a big seller either on the Eastern Shore.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 01, 2025, 06:39:55 PMIs anyone a good fit for Buzz?
He is a good salesman with his ah shuck's demeanor. He is clearly a restless guy.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 01, 2025, 06:19:56 PMI'm really surprised Maryland went that route.
Instant upgrade from the "Worm"
Pretty funny I was listening to Sirius on the way home from work and they were talking coaching changes.....Instead of the "Worm" which is my nickname for the scumbag.....The host called Willard a "weasel" like 20 times.....LOL....
Villanova was desperate......
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 31, 2025, 11:24:33 AMI think what drove Buzz's success at MU was knowing the JUCO landscape better than almost all D1 head coaches. It allowed him to recruit some very good players to MU that had development. Then, he was able to make the Elite Eight with a mostly veteran team since he hit on some high school recruits and Jamil.
I think the Amigos biggest help to the future success was allowing Jimmy to come along slowly and start in a niche role.
I'm not sure if he's still able to leverage the JUCO route as well or if things have changed.
I'm going to change this idea slightly.
What drove Buzz's success, was that he had built a great network through Coach Orr. That network gave him an early in on JUCO talent that he used to build his success.
His network, allowed him to have some really good assistants.
Buzz has to some extent abandoned that network over the last several years, instead of the importance of "writing letters" he has let his ego get in the way, where he expects others to seek him out. We'll see how that works out for him.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 01, 2025, 01:32:25 PMI think Taylor would have left as he blew up as a senior and likely got some money from Bill Self, but we would have retained Nick Williams who had a pretty solid career and IU and Ole Miss.
Good question on Butler. My guess is Buzz was already on him and I don't remember what other schools he had offers from.
We would not have had Butler. Buzz wasn't even targeting Butler, he was recruiting Fulce and gave Fulce an offer. An extra spot opened late, and Fulce insisted Buzz sign Butler, supposedly threatening to not come to MU if Buzz didn't offer JFB.
Buzz
MU = Big East
VT = ACC
TAMU = SEC
Maryland = B1G
The next stop will be the Big 12.
Has any coach ever work in all five P5 conferences?
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 01, 2025, 09:29:21 PMBuzz
MU = Big East
VT = ACC
TAMU = SEC
Maryland = B1G
The next stop will be the Big 12.
Has any coach ever work in all five P5 conferences?
Yes
Muggs - Who cares about " fit " ...?
Buzz will win at MD. Heck, he won at
Va Tech FFS.
That said, he seems to be a total jag that grates on everyone and every school he lands at. And while he won ON the
Ct at MU, he and some of his players embarrassed MU off the court multiple times.
Quote from: Mu8891 on April 02, 2025, 03:33:05 AMMuggs - Who cares about " fit " ...?
Buzz will win at MD. Heck, he won at
Va Tech FFS.
That said, he seems to be a total jag that grates on everyone and every school he lands at. And while he won ON the
Ct at MU, he and some of his players embarrassed MU off the court multiple times.
They have had a national championship in the past (2002). They were an S16 team.
Now they "just want to win?"
Or do they have aspirations for more, like an FF and/or B1G Championship? If so, is Buzz the guy who will get them there? What in his past suggests that going to Maryland will produce this level of success? Especially after Willard suggested he left because they don't have the money to compete in an NIL world?
Quote from: willie warrior on April 01, 2025, 07:44:17 PMSo..the downhome lonesome cowboy comes home to the lobster and crabcakes of the eastern shore. You are right. The fit seems odd. There are not too many bars in Maryland that do the Texas two step or the boot scooting boogie...so I have heard.
Try The Hideaway in Odenton.
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 02, 2025, 05:53:29 AMThey have had a national championship in the past (2002). They were an S16 team.
Now they "just want to win?"
Or do they have aspirations for more, like an FF and/or B1G Championship? If so, is Buzz the guy who will get them there? What in his past suggests that going to Maryland will produce this level of success? Especially after Willard suggested he left because they don't have the money to compete in an NIL world?
Hiring a sitting coach as successful as Buzz is a no brainer. Who else is actually available?
Quote from: The Sultan on April 02, 2025, 06:25:24 AMHiring a sitting coach as successful as Buzz is a no brainer. Who else is actually available?
As the game of musical chairs continues, that is now the question Texas A&M gets to answer.
Quote from: forgetful on April 01, 2025, 08:55:08 PMWe would not have had Butler. Buzz wasn't even targeting Butler, he was recruiting Fulce and gave Fulce an offer. An extra spot opened late, and Fulce insisted Buzz sign Butler, supposedly threatening to not come to MU if Buzz didn't offer JFB.
Fluce signed in the fall, committing the same night Shumpert verbaled to Georgia Tech.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 02, 2025, 08:25:40 AMFluce signed in the fall, committing the same night Shumpert verbaled to Georgia Tech.
I'm not sure what that has to do with my post. Everything in my post is correct. JFB was not originally targeted by Buzz. Buzz was recruiting Fulce. Fulce committed. Fulce threatened to not come to MU if Buzz didn't sign JFB.
Quote from: forgetful on April 02, 2025, 10:09:38 AMI'm not sure what that has to do with my post. Everything in my post is correct. JFB was not originally targeted by Buzz. Buzz was recruiting Fulce. Fulce committed. Fulce threatened to not come to MU if Buzz didn't sign JFB.
I didn't realize the Fulce threatened not to come part. Interesting. Glad he did.
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2025, 06:19:09 AMTry The Hideaway in Odenton.
Wow...never thought I'd see The Hideaway referenced on here. Best wings I've ever had. Are you in the area?
For those interested ....Buzz press conference is on big 10 network
Quote from: MuMark on April 02, 2025, 11:06:51 AMFor those interested ....Buzz press conference is on big 10 network
I was gonna slam my dick in the car door but this sounds marginally better.
Quote from: TFlegend on April 02, 2025, 11:03:09 AMWow...never thought I'd see The Hideaway referenced on here. Best wings I've ever had. Are you in the area?
I visit.
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2025, 06:26:57 AMAs the game of musical chairs continues, that is now the question Texas A&M gets to answer.
If not Shaka, then Wojo
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 02, 2025, 11:11:15 AMI was gonna slam my dick in the car door but this sounds marginally better.
Sorry I watched.....lol
The last guy just went through every person named Williams ever associated with Maryland athletics......and then asked for a round of applause.
I could see Buzz going off the wall and telling the Tortoise and the Hare and likening himself to the Terps mascot.
If Shaka moves, I will fully believe it's because Marquette cannot compete with the new free agency NIL.
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 02, 2025, 12:17:26 PMI could see Buzz going off the wall and telling the Tortoise and the Hare and likening himself to the Terps mascot.
Buzz quote (on a coffee mug I own):
"I'm like a turtle. I rememeber everything."
Quote from: LloydsLegs on April 02, 2025, 12:38:07 PMBuzz quote (on a coffee mug I own):
"I'm like a turtle. I rememeber everything."
Probably not great if he ever had to testify in a certain civil suit
it sounds like Beard is staying and likely got a nice raise from the folks in Oxford:
https://x.com/CoachingChanges/status/1907518955977400629
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 02, 2025, 11:11:15 AMI was gonna slam my dick in the car door but this sounds marginally better.
I literally laughed out loud.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 02, 2025, 02:45:00 PMit sounds like Beard is staying and likely got a nice raise from the folks in Oxford:
https://x.com/CoachingChanges/status/1907518955977400629
Aka Chris Beard got more money and thinks he can get a better job in a year or two.
Barbee out at Central Michigan.
Quote from: tower912 on April 03, 2025, 08:33:48 PMBarbee out at Central Michigan.
Probably the end of the Tony Barbee HC experiment. But he'll head down to Fayetteville back to his well paid job on Cal's bench, just like Kenny Payne.
Quote from: tower912 on April 03, 2025, 08:33:48 PMBarbee out at Central Michigan.
Good reminder of how terrible the Calipari coaching tree has been.
Barbee
Kenny Payne
Josh Pastner
Orlando Antigua
Bruiser Flint
Derek Kellogg
Bill Bayno
Quote from: Pakuni on April 03, 2025, 08:57:55 PMGood reminder of how terrible the Calipari coaching tree has been.
Barbee
Kenny Payne
Josh Pastner
Orlando Antigua
Bruiser Flint
Derek Kellogg
Bill Bayno
Ouch.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 03, 2025, 08:57:55 PMGood reminder of how terrible the Calipari coaching tree has been.
Barbee
Kenny Payne
Josh Pastner
Orlando Antigua
Bruiser Flint
Derek Kellogg
Bill Bayno
Josh pastner was decent at Memphis... in that company he looks like coach K
Quote from: tower912 on April 03, 2025, 08:33:48 PMBarbee out at Central Michigan.
Their next coach: Ken.
Even though he's got no ballz.
Quote from: tower912 on April 03, 2025, 08:33:48 PMBarbee out at Central Michigan.
Put another shrimp on him!
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 03, 2025, 09:15:36 PMJosh pastner was decent at Memphis... in that company he looks like coach K
Wasn't Buzz close to getting him as an assistant early on?
Quote from: Pakuni on April 03, 2025, 08:57:55 PMGood reminder of how terrible the Calipari coaching tree has been.
Barbee
Kenny Payne
Josh Pastner
Orlando Antigua
Bruiser Flint
Derek Kellogg
Bill Bayno
Pastner is a bit different cause he only spent a year with Cal, but otherwise, sheesh. I didn't realize Flint was back in the fold with Cal either. Say what you want about Cal, but the man is loyal to his failed proteges.
Bayno really the only fairly successful one. He was pretty good at UNLV before the situation with Lamar Odom. Then he's been on some pretty good NBA staffs.
Quote from: JWags85 on April 04, 2025, 07:27:03 AMPastner is a bit different cause he only spent a year with Cal, but otherwise, sheesh. I didn't realize Flint was back in the fold with Cal either. Say what you want about Cal, but the man is loyal to his failed proteges.
Bayno really the only fairly successful one. He was pretty good at UNLV before the situation with Lamar Odom. Then he's been on some pretty good NBA staffs.
Pitino probably has the best coaching tree
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 04, 2025, 07:34:36 AMPitino probably has the best coaching tree
Kyle Smith of Stanford may end up having the best just from his staff at Columbia:
Todd Golden - HC at Florida
Mike Magpayo - HC at UCR/Fordham
Kevin Hovde - assistant at Florida, soon to be HC at Columbia
Carlin Hartman - top assistant at Florida
John Andrzejek - Florida assistant and soon to be Campbell HC
Koby Altman - President of Basketball Ops for the Cleveland Cavs
It seems like the best place to find up and coming assistants to hire as HC are mid-majors where guys have to really put in the work to land kids and win, not places like Duke, Kansas, etc.
Calipari's guys are basically recruiters, who oftentimes can't make the transition to being a HC.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 04, 2025, 08:46:18 AMCalipari's guys are basically recruiters, who oftentimes can't make the transition to being a HC.
Marquette had one of Dukes guys like that
Quote from: GB Warrior on April 04, 2025, 09:48:39 AMMarquette had one of Dukes guys like that
I wouldn't call Duke's guys "recruiters" as Duke doesn't have to really work to get the top players as much as select which ones they're going to take.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 04, 2025, 09:53:38 AMI wouldn't call Duke's guys "recruiters" as Duke doesn't have to really work to get the top players as much as select which ones they're going to take.
Kind of. Scheyer was a pretty well-respected recruiter, but understand the larger point
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 04, 2025, 09:53:38 AMI wouldn't call Duke's guys "recruiters" as Duke doesn't have to really work to get the top players as much as select which ones they're going to take.
Kentucky, especially under Cal, really struggled with this. Had to find diamonds in the rough to develop into players you hope contribute as upper classmen...
Quote from: wadesworld on April 04, 2025, 10:09:43 AMKentucky, especially under Cal, really struggled with this. Had to find diamonds in the rough to develop into players you hope contribute as upper classmen...
Little known fact is Shaka got the retain and develop strategy from Calipari.
Rick Pitino and Bruce Pearl tie for AP Assbag of the Year.
EDIT: Sorry I misread. It's AP Coach of the Year.
Texas AM hires Bucky McMillan
Quote from: MuMark on April 04, 2025, 10:52:10 PMTexas AM hires Bucky McMillan
All the schools from power conferences have filled their vacancies now.
McMillan is a hell of a risky hire for Trev Alberts to start off his time at A&M. He's highly thought of but his ascension makes Nate Oats and Eric Henderson look like 25 year slogs. High school coach to low major to SEC HC within 5 years and without a single post season victory
Makes me wonder if A&M isn't as lucrative a place as we think.
A&M writers are bragging about their NIL war chest. Buckyball in the SEC combined with the ability to buy players should be interesting, to say the least.
Buckyball is what Shaka tries to be, only even more aggressive on defense, even faster on offense, and 3s.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 04, 2025, 08:42:02 AMKyle Smith of Stanford may end up having the best just from his staff at Columbia:
Todd Golden - HC at Florida
Mike Magpayo - HC at UCR/Fordham
Kevin Hovde - assistant at Florida, soon to be HC at Columbia
Carlin Hartman - top assistant at Florida
John Andrzejek - Florida assistant and soon to be Campbell HC
Koby Altman - President of Basketball Ops for the Cleveland Cavs
It seems like the best place to find up and coming assistants to hire as HC are mid-majors where guys have to really put in the work to land kids and win, not places like Duke, Kansas, etc.
Todd Golden is a persistent recruiter, I hear
Quote from: Shaka Shart on April 05, 2025, 02:23:32 PMTodd Golden is a persistent recruiter, I hear
Geno is lucky he doesn't have to compete against him in the women's game.
Quote from: JWags85 on April 04, 2025, 11:58:43 PMMcMillan is a hell of a risky hire for Trev Alberts to start off his time at A&M. He's highly thought of but his ascension makes Nate Oats and Eric Henderson look like 25 year slogs. High school coach to low major to SEC HC within 5 years and without a single post season victory
I was scratchin' my head on this one. Either Alberts is gonna look very smart or very stoopid. No in-between with this kind of hire.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 04, 2025, 04:04:42 PMRick Pitino and Bruce Pearl tie for AP Assbag of the Year.
EDIT: Sorry I misread. It's AP Coach of the Year.
Yes. Assbag of the year is correct. Todd Golden a very close runner up with the downhome lonesome cowboy right there also
Quote from: MU82 on April 05, 2025, 06:16:15 PMI was scratchin' my head on this one. Either Alberts is gonna look very smart or very stoopid. No in-between with this kind of hire.
You are correct. Alberts went against the wishes of the boosters when hiring McMillian. That's taking a HUGE risk with the money the A&M boosters throw around.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 06, 2025, 08:51:54 AMYes. Assbag of the year is correct. Todd Golden a very close runner up with the downhome lonesome cowboy right there also
If we are only taking 1-year into account. Golden is the winner, man those story lines and Florida sticking by him really screams "money" above "integrity."
Quote from: forgetful on April 06, 2025, 12:33:11 PMIf we are only taking 1-year into account. Golden is the winner, man those story lines and Florida sticking by him really screams "money" above "integrity."
Or winning over everything else, which is a very SEC thing.
Still, its crazy that it got swept away, not just because UF ended up doing what they did on the court, but because its one of the most unhinged wild things I've seen in college sports. Coaches having affairs or being inappropriate with coeds/getting handsy when drunk, its far from uncommon. But stalking and the level of IG creeping/lurking he was doing was absolutely nuts. Its something you'd expect from a faceless grad assistant or something, not the high profile multimillionaire HC.
Quote from: JWags85 on April 08, 2025, 08:51:53 AMOr winning over everything else, which is a very SEC thing.
Still, its crazy that it got swept away, not just because UF ended up doing what they did on the court, but because its one of the most unhinged wild things I've seen in college sports. Coaches having affairs or being inappropriate with coeds/getting handsy when drunk, its far from uncommon. But stalking and the level of IG creeping/lurking he was doing was absolutely nuts. Its something you'd expect from a faceless grad assistant or something, not the high profile multimillionaire HC.
And I don't recall it EVER being brought up during the entire tournament! Just completely ignored...
EDIT: And I can pretty much guaranty if this were just a normal, regular employee, they would have been fired on the spot. Higher education puts up with a lot...but stalking students is pretty much a universal reason to fire someone.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 08, 2025, 09:07:29 AMAnd I don't recall it EVER being brought up during the entire tournament! Just completely ignored...
EDIT: And I can pretty much guaranty if this were just a normal, regular employee, they would have been fired on the spot. Higher education puts up with a lot...but stalking students is pretty much a universal reason to fire someone.
I was really surprised that Jay Wright went out of his way to be so laudatory about Golden in the postgame yesterday.
Quote from: forgetful on April 06, 2025, 12:33:11 PMIf we are only taking 1-year into account. Golden is the winner, man those story lines and Florida sticking by him really screams "money" above "integrity."
Agree, but I think we have far,
far greater problems regarding integrity in this country.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 08, 2025, 09:34:02 AMAgree, but I think we have far, far greater problems regarding integrity in this country.
And that is why we have sports and sites like MUScoop.
I'm sure there are a million other places to discuss the real issues.
Alan Huss leaving High Point to become the official "coach in waiting" at Creighton.
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1910361834537771366
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 10, 2025, 11:07:29 AMAlan Huss leaving High Point to become the official "coach in waiting" at Creighton.
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1910361834537771366
Good, McDermott owns Shaka
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 10, 2025, 11:07:29 AMAlan Huss leaving High Point to become the official "coach in waiting" at Creighton.
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1910361834537771366
Porter Moser is in shambles.
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 10, 2025, 11:37:49 AMPorter Moser is in shambles.
Until McDermott signed his most recent extension it was going to be DeVries. Kind of like how it was going to be Tommy Lloyd at GU until he decided to go out on his own. Good move to lock up Huss.
Kinda shocking. Wonder if Greg McDermott is thinking of hanging up the towel soon and handing off the reigns?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 10, 2025, 12:31:28 PMKinda shocking. Wonder if Greg McDermott is thinking of hanging up the towel soon and handing off the reigns?
Goodman's tweet says "it'll likely be in the next two seasons."
Quote from: The Sultan on April 10, 2025, 12:34:51 PMGoodman's tweet says "it'll likely be in the next two seasons."
Boeheim was two years from retiring for like 10 years.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 10, 2025, 12:31:28 PMKinda shocking. Wonder if Greg McDermott is thinking of hanging up the towel soon and handing off the reigns?
Doubt it, unless he doesn't care for portal BS. He is doing well there and in Beast, as well as dealing with Portal.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 10, 2025, 12:49:29 PMBoeheim was two years from retiring for like 10 years.
Mike Hopkins was supposed to be the coach in waiting there until it never came and he bolted for Washington. By the time Boeheim got out of the way Hopkins was being ushered out for 1 NCAA appearance and some middling PAC12 finishes.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 10, 2025, 12:49:29 PMBoeheim was two years from retiring for like 10 years.
Right but their coach in waiting hadn't just made himself an extremely desirable mid major coach at a school with zero basketball tradition. A lot easier to say "any moment now" to an associate HC than to drag a top assistant back to that position after they proved themselves.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 10, 2025, 01:19:44 PMRight but their coach in waiting hadn't just made himself an extremely desirable mid major coach at a school with zero basketball tradition. A lot easier to say "any moment now" to an associate HC than to drag a top assistant back to that position after they proved themselves.
That's a good point.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 10, 2025, 12:57:27 PMDoubt it, unless he doesn't care for portal BS. He is doing well there and in Beast, as well as dealing with Portal.
Didn't read the tweet, huh?
Quote from: the eagle on April 10, 2025, 01:11:34 PMMike Hopkins was supposed to be the coach in waiting there until it never came and he bolted for Washington. By the time Boeheim got out of the way Hopkins was being ushered out for 1 NCAA appearance and some middling PAC12 finishes.
Keefe ensured Scoop that Hopkins was going to kill it at Washington and Syracuse missed their chance to force Boeheim out to keep him around. Hopkins wouldn't have bolted for Syracuse after his major success at Washington, he said.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2025, 02:44:18 PMKeefe ensured Scoop that Hopkins was going to kill it at Washington and Syracuse missed their chance to force Boeheim out to keep him around. Hopkins wouldn't have bolted for Syracuse after his major success at Washington, he said.
Keefe, as it turns out, wasn't of sound mind
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 10, 2025, 01:19:44 PMRight but their coach in waiting hadn't just made himself an extremely desirable mid major coach at a school with zero basketball tradition. A lot easier to say "any moment now" to an associate HC than to drag a top assistant back to that position after they proved themselves.
That's sort of where I was with it too. He was mentioned with a lot of openings this cycle. He's a known commodity with a great track record from his prep school days and what he did at High Point was remarkable.
Assuming that McDermott timeline is indeed true, that's a great get for Creighton.
Quote from: JWags85 on April 10, 2025, 08:52:25 PMThat's sort of where I was with it too. He was mentioned with a lot of openings this cycle. He's a known commodity with a great track record from his prep school days and what he did at High Point was remarkable.
Assuming that McDermott timeline is indeed true, that's a great get for Creighton.
Wish we had a coach in waiting. Creighton is lapping us. Shake needs to adapt.
As an ex-Warior living in Omaha there have been nights of fear and trembling from my CU friends and neighbors listening the constant rumors that he was going to leave after this last season for greener pastures. They are relieved this morning. As an FYI - I also retired from CU. I was their Director of Purchasing for the last 12 years of my career. The additional unconfirmed rumor is his house in West Omaha went up for sale recently. Looks like he has a plan. Although the house sale could be just a way to avod a 40 minute commute.
Quote from: AccredoJoe on April 11, 2025, 07:49:00 AMAs an ex-Warior living in Omaha there have been nights of fear and trembling from my CU friends and neighbors listening the constant rumors that he was going to leave after this last season for greener pastures plantations.
FIFY.
Quote from: AccredoJoe on April 11, 2025, 07:49:00 AMAs an ex-Warior living in Omaha there have been nights of fear and trembling from my CU friends and neighbors listening the constant rumors that he was going to leave after this last season for greener pastures. They are relieved this morning. As an FYI - I also retired from CU. I was their Director of Purchasing for the last 12 years of my career. The additional unconfirmed rumor is his house in West Omaha went up for sale recently. Looks like he has a plan. Although the house sale could be just a way to avod a 40 minute commute.
It seems like he's become quite skilled in putting his name out there to get raises from Creighton.
There were 55 D1 coaching vacancies. With Florida A&M hiring Charlie Ward, 54 have now been filled.
The only position currently available: UC Riverside.
Send in those resumes!
Quote from: MU82 on April 17, 2025, 12:03:02 PMThere were 55 D1 coaching vacancies. With Florida A&M hiring Charlie Ward, 54 have now been filled.
The only position currently available: UC Riverside.
Send in those resumes!
Inland Empire? No thanks.
Quote from: MU82 on April 17, 2025, 12:03:02 PMThere were 55 D1 coaching vacancies. With Florida A&M hiring Charlie Ward, 54 have now been filled.
The only position currently available: UC Riverside.
Send in those resumes!
Buzz to Riverside
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 17, 2025, 02:37:11 PMBuzz to Riverside
In 6 years......." I'm honored to be here....this was always a job I've had my eye on......Go Highlanders! "
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 10, 2025, 07:48:10 PMKeefe, as it turns out, wasn't of sound mind
what happened to / where is Keefe?
Quote from: coffee cup on April 17, 2025, 11:18:50 PMwhat happened to / where is Keefe?
He died on his way back to his home planet
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 18, 2025, 07:08:14 AMHe died on his way back to his home planet
Did anyone call his HR department to let them know?
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 18, 2025, 07:46:01 AMDid anyone call his HR department to let them know?
Well we were assured by his friends that that's just his humor and it'd totally be a joke even when done to a poster he had zero relationship with.
Quote from: coffee cup on April 17, 2025, 11:18:50 PMwhat happened to / where is Keefe?
His character was revealed for about the 837th time
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 01, 2025, 09:29:21 PMBuzz
MU = Big East
VT = ACC
TAMU = SEC
Maryland = B1G
The next stop will be the Big 12.
Has any coach ever work in all five P5 conferences?
When Crean left Buzz struck gold.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 01, 2025, 03:54:48 PMAs they should. Can't believe my money might contribute to these kids who have always entertained me for free until the last few years.
Not free, your money was paying for their scholarships. At 70K per year that is not chump change. Never thought it was "entertainment" but part of the educational experience for the players as well as the student body.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on May 03, 2025, 09:09:42 AMNot free, your money was paying for their scholarships. At 70K per year that is not chump change. Never thought it was "entertainment" but part of the educational experience for the players as well as the student body.
Lol.