1. Chase after a steal, so good.
2. Loyer and Smith are going to win a lot of games for Purdue.
3. Owens looked a little more comfortable in the first half, compared to Friday.
4. Wondering again what is and isn't a foul. Sadly normal.
5. Not the same rotations in the second half. 10 in the first half, 8 in the second.
6. Stevie is appreciated by knowers of ball. Appreciate him while he is here.
7. How about that triple double?
8. One day, announcers will talk about what MU has and could be, and not about who left and perceived weaknesses.
9. Wins over top 10 teams are fun.
2-0 against the Big ?. Hope MU doesn't drop too far in the polls.
10. Staying home AND disruptive. The defense may be better than last year.
Phenomenal performance. It feels like this team has at least one more gear they haven't reached and they still have one of the best resumes in the country.
Been waiting three years for a defense led program and well worth the wait. The Shaka 2.0 era is off to an outstanding start.
MU beat a top 10 team at home? Ahhhh better keep em at 15
-The people who rank teams
Two well coached teams. Fun game to watch. The defense was incredible. So connected.
So fun.
The whole deflections thing is not just a cliche.
The defense is already fantastic and will only get better as the season progresses.
Deflection culture
Tre and Zaide and Damarius are going to join the party as the season progresses.
The defense is disciplined and relentless, a great combination in my book.
Defense was Excellent
The Guys played great team basketball. So fun to watch.
Winning a non conference game against a Top 10 Opponent is great for the Tournament Resume
11 thefts doesn't suck.
Having a healthy Chase play starters minutes improves the defense. Far more disruptive. Longer, quicker.
I dunno, so we beat a team where half their players look like their day job is at a craft brewery! ;D
That defensive effort by every one was incredible!
Give some credit to Jop. So much made about his offensive game, but this guy has gone from a liability to genuine asset on the defensive side of the floor. His lateral quickness is night and day relative to earlier in his career.
Would have bet my IRA against an 18-point win. Fantastic.
Damn that was fun! I love defense that drives the other team absolutely crazy. Mission accomplished.
Quote from: Goose on November 19, 2024, 10:03:51 PMBeen waiting three years for a defense led program and well worth the wait. The Shaka 2.0 era is off to an outstanding start.
Goose, this is a true Shaka team. Guys that play hard on both ends.
Quote from: Goose on November 19, 2024, 10:11:46 PMThe defense is disciplined and relentless, a great combination in my book.
Could not agree more Goose. Wow!
1. Great defensive effort.
2. We made a terrific player in Smith look pedestrian.
3. Happy to see Gold knock down some 3s, take the ball to the rim and fight on the defensive end.
4. Kam is unbelievable.
5. Add Chase and Stevie to Kam and that might be the best 3 guard lineup in the country.
6. I'll leave Jop alone tonight. He played some good defense.
Best defense in the Shaka era, and we might be talking one of the historically best Marquette defenses by seasons end.
Relentless.
Defense travels.
58,62,62,63,74 allowed in first 5- much easier to win when you hold teams in the 60s and 70s.
Kam is amazing, historical night for him. Stevie was incredible again, as was Chase.
Perhaps the best 3 guard combo in the land?
Jop and Ben worked their butts off on defense. If their outside shots fall this team is ELITE.
There is talent on the bench too, both defensive and offensive.
Can't believe Shaka is doing it again, feels amazing
Jockey
I have loved every minute of the last three seasons but this is what I have been waiting for. They are relentless without being reckless. That is a defense that will frustrate many teams down the road.
Really going to miss Stevie after this season. One of my favorite players of all time.
That was just a thoroughly enjoyable victory. Entire team played well, defense was spectacular, and the drama of whether Kam would get the triple double. I stood up when he passed it to Mitchell, trying to will in that basket.
Great moment and a team that is just damn fun to watch.
Best defensive game of the Shaka era. Dominated on defense a top-5 offense (to date in country). He is one amazing coach and program builder. We are fortunate to have him.
I loved him getting on Jop for not boxing out on a FT. Attention to detail and commitment to high energy effort on every play is so much fun.
Kam is Gumby, dammit!
Stevie - so much effort and heart and toughness ... and effen talent, too. He's become a damn good basketball player.
Ross is Mister D-And-3. As great a defender as Stevie is, Chase might be even better.
Gold had an outstanding night. Switching, recovering, challenging shots, hitting a few 3s. Hanging tough on D in the post despite one absolutely brutal call against him. I would take this from him every single game.
Jop had a nice defensive game, especially after Shaka got on him a little. Need to get that 3 going, though.
I like what Parham gives us, and looking to see more from Owens cuz he's looked smooth in limited play.
Our guards have done a nice job this season of helping on the defensive boards. That's crucial for any team but especially a smallish one.
Shaka and his assistants made some great adjustments for the second half. We gave their best shooters just about nothing from 3.
Folks, we've got another really fun team to watch. I love 'em already!
We Are Marquette!!
Quote from: MU82 on November 19, 2024, 10:33:43 PMKam is Gumby, dammit!
Stevie - so much effort and heart and toughness ... and effen talent, too. He's become a damn good basketball player.
Ross is Mister D-And-3. As great a defender as Stevie is, Chase might be even better.
Gold had an outstanding night. Switching, recovering, challenging shots, hitting a few 3s. Hanging tough on D in the post despite one absolutely brutal call against him. I would take this from him every single game.
Jop had a nice defensive game, especially after Shaka got on him a little. Need to get that 3 going, though.
I like what Parham gives us, and looking to see more from Owens cuz he's looked smooth in limited play.
Our guards have done a nice job this season of helping on the defensive boards. That's crucial for any team but especially a smallish one.
Shaka and his assistants made some great adjustments for the second half. We gave their best shooters just about nothing from 3.
Folks, we've got another really fun team to watch. I love 'em already!
We Are Marquette!!
The first rebound attempt of the game = Kam knows Jop to the floor as three Marquette player went to grab the board. I told a friend then, we were going to crash the glass tonight!
Quote from: Goose on November 19, 2024, 10:24:36 PMJockey
I have loved every minute of the last three seasons but this is what I have been waiting for. They are relentless without being reckless. That is a defense that will frustrate many teams down the road.
Goose
I said after our first game that this team reminded me of Shaka's FF team at VCU. Difference is this team has Kam Jones on the offensive end.
Quote from: Jockey on November 19, 2024, 10:19:21 PMGoose, this is a true Shaka team. Guys that play hard on both ends.
They play hard?
Lenny
TK and Oso put this style on the back burner for a couple of years and that was a blast. That said, this is what I have been waiting for. If we can get a couple of bench guys to step it up a bit more on D it could be a fun season.
Quote from: forgetful on November 19, 2024, 10:26:55 PMReally going to miss Stevie after this season. One of my favorite players of all time.
Love Stevie. Went to a Georgetown game a couple of years ago (when Stevie was a frosh) and when we went to eat at a place near the game site there were a horde of Stevie fans. I asked if they were Pennsylvanians and of course they were. The number of his fans from his home town and what they had to say about him solidified in my mind what a great person he was, and what a great player he would be for MU, and he has not disappointed.
Love the college ball because of the MU connection, but the guys you love are only there for so long. C'est la vie.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 19, 2024, 10:39:02 PMGoose
I said after our first game that this team reminded me of Shaka's FF team at VCU. Difference is this team has Kam Jones on the offensive end.
Defensively, certainly looks a little havoc-y
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 19, 2024, 10:17:53 PMGive some credit to Jop. So much made about his offensive game, but this guy has gone from a liability to genuine asset on the defensive side of the floor. His lateral quickness is night and day relative to earlier in his career.
I never thought I'd prefer Jop's defence to his offence... but here we are. He's averaging almost 3 boards a game higher than last year too.
Quote from: Goose on November 19, 2024, 10:42:12 PMLenny
TK and Oso put this style on the back burner for a couple of years and that was a blast. That said, this is what I have been waiting for. If we can get a couple of bench guys to step it up a bit more on D it could be a fun season.
Absolutely Goose.
There is some special defensive talent on that bench, so it'll come.
Zaide will be elite, Tre is a plus defender, SJ22 is a pest among the best, Caedin is a bully and hits the O glass.
The freshmen will shine more offensively, but their defense is passable when there is so much defensive talent around them.
I can't believe how good Joplin has become on the defensive end and on the glass, and how good of a 2 way player Kam is becoming.
Even the weakest links defensively are vastly improved this season, imo.
Thats the story of culture
The "TEAM" looked amazing tonight. Across the board. totally different gear, compared to the previous games. They were locked in tonight
I think all in all we got free chick fila, free boneless wings from Buffalo Wild Wings, free Jimmy John's but no shake shack!
A big key to Stevies development
Each of the last 3 games he's been a "closer" of sorts. Doing a lot of scoring late in the games. Massive to have that emerge
Also been a machine at the line
Worth pointing out: Wisconsin beats #9 Arizona (chokers) on Peacock and storms the court. Marquette just unnatural carnal knowledgeing dog walked #6 Purdue on national television, business as usual in Milwaukee. Bigger fish to fry. Prime time program. #MUBB
https://x.com/bigunc1977/status/1859088052821389472?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw
Wore them the f out by the 10 minute mark of the first half. Smith was exhausted. Hit that circus baseline 2 point shot and made it. After that, basically done. Holding his shorts and his hips. Freaking exhausted. Our guards man handled him. Great defense.
Jops defense was unbelievable. Rebounded well too.
Great win!
So much to like about the game tonight! Kam, what a player, ditto for Stevie.
I want to be mad at Joplin and Ben for their performance on the offensive end but aside from missing shots (which I think will get better)I thought they did a great job. Chase looks like a Kam in waiting..Freshman are progressing and what about Sean Jones?? Good day for MU!!! Almost forgot, someone said earlier that the defense looked Havocy, I agree!!! Ring Out Ahoya!!!
This Thanksgiving I'll again be thankful for Shaka and for Bill Scholl and well-heeled alums getting Shaka here. The coaching and player development are really fun to watch. A great performance tonight.
I thought Owens showed a nice flash on his and-1. I think by conference play, he will be a contributor. I think he was trending that way until his injury.
One other impressive thing is it was clear they weren't going to let Kam beat them from 3. However, Kam took what they gave him and got to the basket and/or distributed. He's really impressed me as a point guard.
My favorite part of the evening was when Rafferty asked Kam if he knew who Dwyane Wade was.
Kam : "Of course"
Kam should have said "Isn't he that guy who donated a few million to Marquette"?
I thought that when your team beats a top 10 team the students are supposed to storm the court.
I guess Marquette students aren't as passionate as the UW students who stormed the court after the Badgers' win over Arizona last week. 🙄
Quote from: cheebs09 on November 20, 2024, 12:50:04 AMI thought Owens showed a nice flash on his and-1. I think by conference play, he will be a contributor. I think he was trending that way until his injury.
Yup. He returned during a 3 game gauntlet. So he's getting first half run. Then sitting in close games
After Georgia(assuming we don't crush them by halftime) he will start playing a lot next week during the two buy games is my guess. Get him ready.
Quote from: wisblue on November 20, 2024, 05:29:24 AMI thought that when your team beats a top 10 team the students are supposed to storm the court.
I guess Marquette students aren't as passionate as the UW students who stormed the court after the Badgers' win over Arizona last week. 🙄
We're not really doing this again are we?
Marquette up to 13 in KenPom after slipping to 24 following their loss to George Mason. 10th on defense. Early season caveats and all...
His best team at VCU finished the year 6th in defense. 23rd was his next best at VCU. Last year, Marquette finished 17th in defense
I think the comments the team made about conditioning after the game @ Creighton is showing up in their tenacity and endurance, love it!
Quote from: wisblue on November 20, 2024, 05:29:24 AMI thought that when your team beats a top 10 team the students are supposed to storm the court.
I guess Marquette students aren't as passionate as the UW students who stormed the court after the Badgers' win over Arizona last week. 🙄
Because we act like we've been there before. And we have. Quite a few times n the last 4 years, as a matter of fact.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 20, 2024, 07:58:39 AMWe're not really doing this again are we?
I'm not going to stop ridiculing Badger fans when they act like their team has never won a big game before.
Quote from: warriorchick on November 20, 2024, 08:10:23 AMBecause we act like we've been there before. And we have. Quite a few times n the last 4 years, as a matter of fact.
I should have flown the sarcasm flag higher. I thought the eye rolling was enough of a clue.
Quote from: wisblue on November 20, 2024, 08:11:34 AMI'm not going to stop ridiculing Badger fans when they act like their team has never won a big game before.
Students can rush the court for whatever reason. Its hardly worth ridiculing them at all.
Quote from: warriorchick on November 20, 2024, 08:10:23 AMBecause we act like we've been there before. And we have. Quite a few times n the last 4 years, as a matter of fact.
UW has been there plenty of times. No need to get haughty over it.
Quote from: Mutaman on November 20, 2024, 02:02:39 AMMy favorite part of the evening was when Rafferty asked Kam if he knew who Dwyane Wade was.
Kam : "Of course"
Kam should have said "Isn't he that guy who donated a few million to Marquette"?
Actually, my favorite part was at the beginning of the game when the audio went out for the announcers, and I could actually watch the game.
Quote from: wisblue on November 20, 2024, 08:12:53 AMI should have flown the sarcasm flag higher. I thought the eye rolling was enough of a clue.
I caught that. Now when UCONN comes to the Fiserv...Hell yes, storm the court after we win. If for no other reason, just to piss off Hurley.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 20, 2024, 08:13:47 AMActually, my favorite part was at the beginning of the game when the audio went out for the announcers, and I could actually watch the game.
That was very cool. There should be an option to listen to a game especially a high-level game without commentators.
Watching in real time, I thought the refs were horrible in the second half. Re-watching it this morning confirms my original thought.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 20, 2024, 08:13:47 AMActually, my favorite part was at the beginning of the game when the audio went out for the announcers, and I could actually watch the game.
You can't watch the game with announcers? Does their voices make you go blind?
Quote from: manny31 on November 19, 2024, 11:58:24 PMSo much to like about the game tonight! Kam, what a player, ditto for Stevie.
I want to be mad at Joplin and Ben for their performance on the offensive end but aside from missing shots (which I think will get better)I thought they did a great job. Chase looks like a Kam in waiting..Freshman are progressing and what about Sean Jones?? Good day for MU!!! Almost forgot, someone said earlier that the defense looked Havocy, I agree!!! Ring Out Ahoya!!!
Ben was 3-6 from 3...
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 20, 2024, 08:13:47 AMActually, my favorite part was at the beginning of the game when the audio went out for the announcers, and I could actually watch the game.
I thought Joplin hitting that 3 left Raftery and Bennetti speechless. /s
Great defensive effort by the Jopwagon. His shot wasn't falling and he still found a way to be effective on O and D.
Best line of the night from Raff, "Marquette is so good defensively, they steal your mouth guards."
One of the most complete games I've seen from MU in ages. Probably since the D Wade era.
Shaka game planned the win perfectly. Purdue's offense is a little predictable, and the passing lanes are vulnerable. In most situations their guards only have two passing options. Easy to jump the lanes. Guys must have watched tons of video on this, and then executed it perfectly.
Kam really let the game come to him. Didn't force anything. I'm struggling to find a comp for his style and efficiency. Painter said something like "he waits to kill you".
Highest pressure shot of the year so far? Stevie's 3 at the end... for the triple double.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 20, 2024, 08:23:36 AMYou can't watch the game with announcers? Does their voices make you go blind?
Hearing only the sounds of the arena was actually a nice experience. Raf is a legend, and it was just bad timing, but literally the first thing out of his mouth when the sound came back on was when Loyer bumped into a guy and lost the ball out of bounds and he says "You have to call a foul there." Anyway, Benetti and Raf are a great team. Benetti's voice is incredible when used in those Extended Cut videos MU does. Very movie like.
Quote from: warriorchick on November 20, 2024, 08:10:23 AMBecause we act like we've been there before. And we have. Quite a few times n the last 4 years, as a matter of fact.
Thanks Chick!
You're absolutely right. That and we're savings our energy for early April.
I thought it was interesting that MU outrebounded Purdue last night. It was only by one but kind of surprise based on MU's glass results in recent years and Purdue's size.
Another reason Shaka's teams have been so fun to watch is that they take care of the ball. MU had only 6 TOs compared to Purdue's 15. That is getting it done on both ends of the floor.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 20, 2024, 08:02:09 AMMarquette up to 13 in KenPom after slipping to 24 following their loss to George Mason. 10th on defense. Early season caveats and all...
His best team at VCU finished the year 6th in defense. 23rd was his next best at VCU. Last year, Marquette finished 17th in defense
Correction:
It was the CMU loss that sunk us. Losing to George Mason we rose in Kenpom
Quote from: Zog from Margo on November 20, 2024, 09:00:56 AMI thought it was interesting that MU outrebounded Purdue last night. It was only by one but kind of surprise based on MU's glass results in recent years and Purdue's size.
It is really an odd stat because Marquette actually missed more shots than Purdue did. (33 v. 30) And Marquette only had one more offensive rebound than Purdue.
But the rebounding difference was almost entirely about their missed free throws. Marquette only missed one, and it was the first of a two shot foul, while Purdue missed six.
Quote from: WarriorFan on November 20, 2024, 08:37:33 AMShaka game planned the win perfectly. Purdue's offense is a little predictable, and the passing lanes are vulnerable. In most situations their guards only have two passing options. Easy to jump the lanes. Guys must have watched tons of video on this, and then executed it perfectly.
Yeah, there were multiple times where two different defenders anticipated the pass and either one of them would have gotten it.
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1859080769580285986
Goofy Goodman coming around
I traded texts with Benetti this morning, he was very complimentary of all things MU (crowd/Shaka/team).
Quote from: BubbaWilliams on November 20, 2024, 08:35:12 AMI thought Joplin hitting that 3 left Raftery and Bennetti speechless. /s
Great defensive effort by the Jopwagon. His shot wasn't falling and he still found a way to be effective on O and D.
Best line of the night from Raff, "Marquette is so good defensively, they steal your mouth guards."
I also liked Bennetti calling Stevie "the human crowbar" great nickname
Quote from: pbiflyer on November 19, 2024, 11:00:24 PMWorth pointing out: Wisconsin beats #9 Arizona (chokers) on Peacock and storms the court. Marquette just unnatural carnal knowledgeing dog walked #6 Purdue on national television, business as usual in Milwaukee. Bigger fish to fry. Prime time program. #MUBB
Viper and I will be storming the court if we beat the RED, though. Do it for Viper, no more crap from his in laws, at least this year.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 20, 2024, 10:22:25 AMViper and I will be storming the court if we beat the RED, though. Do it for Viper, no more crap from his in laws, at least this year.
If?
IF??
When. I;m gonna book a flight to Milwaukee just so this old man can shuffle onto the court with you guys after the W.
But also, it's no wonder why UW says we're little brother. Beat Purdue and all we can think about is how we react to a top 10 win vs. how Wisconsin reacts to a top 10 win. Who cares?
Just storm the court with me if we beat RED.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 20, 2024, 10:29:00 AMBut also, it's no wonder why UW says we're little brother. Beat Purdue and all we can think about is how we react to a top 10 win vs. how Wisconsin reacts to a top 10 win. Who cares?
Yeah it's weird behavior. I hate them as much as the next guy, but not as much as I love this MU team. Focus on us.
Quote from: swoopem on November 20, 2024, 09:49:11 AMI also liked Bennetti calling Stevie "the human crowbar" great nickname
Funny, because Raftery usually is the one referencing bars in Milwaukee.
What a great night. We were the only good game on TV, had a great broadcast team, and whooped up on Purdue.
Our win got nice play on Sportscenter, too. I know some here don't care about that, but any positive publicity is great for the program IMHO.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 20, 2024, 08:13:47 AMActually, my favorite part was at the beginning of the game when the audio went out for the announcers, and I could actually watch the game.
Ya know, the volume can go down.
Quote from: MU82 on November 20, 2024, 11:23:50 AMOur win got nice play on Sportscenter, too. I know some here don't care about that, but any positive publicity is great for the program IMHO.
They show highlights on sportscaster? This isn't 2001
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 20, 2024, 10:37:51 AMYeah it's weird behavior. I hate them as much as the next guy, but not as much as I love this MU team. Focus on us.
I love Marquette WAY more than I hate UW. But I hate UW more than I love anybody not named Marquette.
Quote from: MU82 on November 20, 2024, 11:23:50 AMOur win got nice play on Sportscenter, too. I know some here don't care about that, but any positive publicity is great for the program IMHO.
Was there a 'messed around and got a triple double' reference?
Quote from: #UnleashSean on November 20, 2024, 11:26:31 AMThey show highlights on sportscaster? This isn't 2001
OK, cool.
Quote from: Goose on November 19, 2024, 10:11:46 PMThe defense is disciplined and relentless, a great combination in my book.
Great description. Phenomenal to watch.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 19, 2024, 10:17:53 PMGive some credit to Jop. So much made about his offensive game, but this guy has gone from a liability to genuine asset on the defensive side of the floor. His lateral quickness is night and day relative to earlier in his career.
It would be easy to let the shooting carry over to the defensive end. Tremendous growth mentally in addition to the incredible physical changes over the past couple years. The shot will start falling eventually and make MU even more dangerous. Until then, he is still contributing by busting his ass on D and on the boards. Impressive.
I have always hated UW, but it has become less strong over the past decade or so for various reason. That said, I really hope we bury them this year. That is the one blemish on Shaka's resume and hope it is a blowout in a couple of weeks.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on November 20, 2024, 11:24:21 AMYa know, the volume can go down.
But without the commentating you got to hear the sounds of the game. The sneakers squeaking, the crowd, the players shouting. That was the cool part.
Quote from: Goose on November 20, 2024, 12:15:08 PMI have always hated UW, but it has become less strong over the past decade or so for various reason. That said, I really hope we bury them this year. That is the one blemish on Shaka's resume and hope it is a blowout in a couple of weeks.
It was easy to get my ire up for Bo but Gard is like whatever. But for the love of God stop losing to them.
I'm already projecting (but what else is a message board for?) to the NCAA tournament. If Jop & Gold are hitting, this team seems capable of beating anyone.
That duo is also capable of going 2-for-19 and dropping a first rounder.
Should be a fun, if sometimes up-and-down, season.
Here's a nice X thread discussing Marquette's defense last night (with clips).
https://x.com/ryancassidycbb/status/1859282909636571159
Quote from: wisblue on November 20, 2024, 05:29:24 AMI thought that when your team beats a top 10 team the students are supposed to storm the court.
I guess Marquette students aren't as passionate as the UW students who stormed the court after the Badgers' win over Arizona last week. 🙄
Not when you're top 15. If we were outside the top 25, might have happened. Outside the top 25 and they were top 5 instead of 6, likely would've happened.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on November 20, 2024, 03:50:53 PMHere's a nice X thread discussing Marquette's defense last night (with clips).
https://x.com/ryancassidycbb/status/1859282909636571159
Very nice, good share
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 20, 2024, 03:57:21 PMNot when you're top 15. If we were outside the top 25, might have happened. Outside the top 25 and they were top 5 instead of 6, likely would've happened.
I continue to be surprised that people took that comment seriously.
It was a dig at Wisconsin fans not a criticism of Marquette.
MU students did not storm the court when unranked and unheralded MU beat Baylor two years ago, and I wouldn't have expected them to. I seriously doubt that fans who might think about storming the court are going to make a distinction between an opponent ranked number 5 vs number 6.
I think court storming is a silly and potentially dangerous practice that, if done at all, should be reserved for really big accomplishments.No game in November fits that definition.
Wisconsin basketball has had more than its share of big accomplishments over the years, including conference championships and Final Four appearances. A win over the number 9 ranked team in a game in which they were 4 point underdogs should not should not be seen as something extra special.
Quote from: wisblue on November 21, 2024, 08:09:35 AMI continue to be surprised that people took that comment seriously.
It was a dig at Wisconsin fans not a criticism of Marquette.
MU students did not storm the court when unranked and unheralded MU beat Baylor two years ago, and I wouldn't have expected them to. I seriously doubt that fans who might think about storming the court are going to make a distinction between an opponent ranked number 5 vs number 6.
I think court storming is a silly and potentially dangerous practice that, if done at all, should be reserved for really big accomplishments.No game in November fits that definition.
Wisconsin basketball has had more than its share of big accomplishments over the years, including conference championships and Final Four appearances. A win over the number 9 ranked team in a game in which they were 4 point underdogs should not should not be seen as something extra special.
I understood what you were saying immediately.
I think its strange that on a night of a big victory, that a Marquette fan takes time to say "hey at least we didn't storm the court like Badger fans." I mean, who cares??
You should also post your court-storming guidelines to a UW board. I am sure they will take them seriously.
Quote from: wisblue on November 21, 2024, 08:09:35 AMI think court storming is a silly and potentially dangerous practice that, if done at all, should be reserved for really big accomplishments.
Like when we beat a 1-2 Notre Dame squad coached by Digger Phelps.
Quote from: wisblue on November 21, 2024, 08:09:35 AMNo game in November fits that definition.
It was
December! Don't judge me. It was a bad, bad time.
Quote from: wisblue on November 21, 2024, 08:09:35 AMI continue to be surprised that people took that comment seriously.
It was a dig at Wisconsin fans not a criticism of Marquette.
MU students did not storm the court when unranked and unheralded MU beat Baylor two years ago, and I wouldn't have expected them to. I seriously doubt that fans who might think about storming the court are going to make a distinction between an opponent ranked number 5 vs number 6.
I think court storming is a silly and potentially dangerous practice that, if done at all, should be reserved for really big accomplishments.No game in November fits that definition.
Wisconsin basketball has had more than its share of big accomplishments over the years, including conference championships and Final Four appearances. A win over the number 9 ranked team in a game in which they were 4 point underdogs should not should not be seen as something extra special.
Your first sentence says you're surpised people took your post seriously. The rest of your post then explains that you meant it seriously.
Court storming is fun. Stop telling kids to get off your lawn.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2024, 08:56:37 AMYour first sentence says your surpised people took your post seriously. The rest of your post then explains that you meant it seriously.
Court storming is fun. Stop telling kids to get off your lawn.
They didn't storm the courts back when women weren't allowed to wear trousers and that's what we need to get back to
Quote from: wisblue on November 21, 2024, 08:09:35 AMI continue to be surprised that people took that comment seriously.
It was a dig at Wisconsin fans not a criticism of Marquette.
MU students did not storm the court when unranked and unheralded MU beat Baylor two years ago, and I wouldn't have expected them to. I seriously doubt that fans who might think about storming the court are going to make a distinction between an opponent ranked number 5 vs number 6.
I think court storming is a silly and potentially dangerous practice that, if done at all, should be reserved for really big accomplishments.No game in November fits that definition.
Wisconsin basketball has had more than its share of big accomplishments over the years, including conference championships and Final Four appearances. A win over the number 9 ranked team in a game in which they were 4 point underdogs should not should not be seen as something extra special.
To be fair, I didn't notice the number of previous posts you had and assumed you were a Badger fan based on your username.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2024, 08:56:37 AMCourt storming is fun. Stop telling kids to get off your lawn.
Tell that to the fans who tried to storm the field after the Badgers beat Michigan in football in 1993.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 21, 2024, 09:13:57 AMThey didn't storm the courts back when women weren't allowed to wear trousers and that's what we need to get back to
I heard that they get to vote now, too.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 20, 2024, 11:27:14 AMI love Marquette WAY more than I hate UW. But I hate UW more than I love anybody not named Marquette.
Pretty close with you, Lenny, but I would have to put No Dick in there as most hated.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 20, 2024, 08:13:47 AMActually, my favorite part was at the beginning of the game when the audio went out for the announcers, and I could actually watch the game.
Yes, that was OK, but muting Raft is a sin.
Quote from: Jockey on November 21, 2024, 12:10:52 PMI heard that they get to vote now, too.
That will be looked at starting next year. Good old times were better ask Bill eh chicos
Quote from: wisblue on November 21, 2024, 11:59:08 AMTell that to the fans who tried to storm the field after the Badgers beat Michigan in football in 1993.
Which, according to the criteria that YOU outlined, is acceptable. It was a "big accomplishment." The first time beating Michigan in 20+ years and got them one step closer to the Rose Bowl.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 21, 2024, 01:08:36 PMWhich, according to the criteria that YOU outlined, is acceptable. It was a "big accomplishment." The first time beating Michigan in 20+ years and got them one step closer to the Rose Bowl.
Yeah, and it resulted in multiple serious injuries. I'm guessing the people that were nearly crushed to death didn't think it was that much fun.
Quote from: wisblue on November 21, 2024, 01:11:45 PMYeah, and it resulted in multiple serious injuries. I'm guessing the people that were nearly crushed to death didn't think it was that much fun.
Yes, and it was the result of poor planning on UW's part more than anything. It was 31 years ago.
Regardless, don't pretend that you had safety in mind when you authored your original post. You meant it as a dig at Badger fans. And it was lame.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 21, 2024, 01:16:30 PMYou meant it as a dig at Badger fans. And it was lame.
Whichever way wisblue meant it, I will use it as a dig at Badger fans. Sure, let the kids have fun, but when you do it all the time it really loses its luster.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 21, 2024, 01:43:49 PMWhichever way wisblue meant it, I will use it as a dig at Badger fans. Sure, let the kids have fun, but when you do it all the time it really loses its luster.
I think our obsession with UW, especially merely minutes after a big win, is very strange.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 21, 2024, 01:45:37 PMI think our obsession with UW, especially merely minutes after a big win, is very strange.
My thought applies to all teams, not just the Badgers.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 21, 2024, 01:45:37 PMI think our obsession with UW, especially merely minutes after a big win, is very strange.
Oh, like that's the
only strange thing about scoopers?
Quote from: wisblue on November 21, 2024, 01:11:45 PMYeah, and it resulted in multiple serious injuries. I'm guessing the people that were nearly crushed to death didn't think it was that much fun.
Skiing results in thousands of serious injuries and dozens of deaths every year. Yet we still do it because its fun.
Hell, football (the event that led to the field storming) leads to countless injuries, many of them serious and some life threatening, and we still do it.
You won't hear me arguing against taking precautions to make things safer (like not putting up a chain link fence like Camp Randall had) but eliminating something because it can lead to injuries in a small number of cases doesnt make sense.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2024, 02:00:49 PMSkiing results in thousands of serious injuries and dozens of deaths every year. Yet we still do it because its fun.
Hell, football (the event that led to the field storming) leads to countless injuries, many of them serious and some life threatening, and we still do it.
You won't hear me arguing against taking precautions to make things safer, but eliminating something because it can lead to injuries in a small number of cases doesnt make sense.
I think you're forgetting Kyle Filipowski almost lost his leg in a court storm.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 21, 2024, 01:16:30 PMYes, and it was the result of poor planning on UW's part more than anything. It was 31 years ago.
Regardless, don't pretend that you had safety in mind when you authored your original post. You meant it as a dig at Badger fans. And it was lame.
Sultan defending Badger fans????
Can't be.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2024, 02:00:49 PMSkiing results in thousands of serious injuries and dozens of deaths every year. Yet we still do it because its fun.
Hell, football (the event that led to the field storming) leads to countless injuries, many of them serious and some life threatening, and we still do it.
You won't hear me arguing against taking precautions to make things safer (like not putting up a chain link fence like Camp Randall had) but eliminating something because it can lead to injuries in a small number of cases doesnt make sense.
Those are not good comparisons.
You're talking about injuries to people who choose to participate in an activity and know that they involve a risk of injury.
Court and field storming can, and has, resulted in injuries to people who get swept up in something they didn't intend to participate in, including players and officials who can't get away quickly enough.
Quote from: wisblue on November 21, 2024, 02:59:50 PMThose are not good comparisons.
You're talking about injuries to people who choose to participate in an activity and know that they involve a risk of injury.
Court and field storming can, and has, resulted in injuries to people who get swept up in something they didn't intend to participate in, including players and officials who can't get away quickly enough.
There hasn't been a single case of a college player missing time due to an injury sustained during a court storming. I am not aware of any instances of officials or coaches sustaining any injuries either. I know some made it seem like Filipowskis leg was ripped clean off his body but he played in the next game with no issue.
There may be isolated incidents of fans getting injured who had no intention of being involved but they are few and far between. People get hit by foul balls, players crash into courtside seats, discuses get thrown into crowds, bulls run into alleyways, hot dog cannons hit people between the eyes, fans storm the court after big upsets in college basketball. There are always risks spectating a live sporting event.
The biggest risk is borne by those choosing to participate, hence the skiing and football examples.
I'm all for taking steps to make it safer. Most schools have and that's why the Camp Randall incident was 31 years ago and you don't see things like that happening anymore.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2024, 04:04:33 PMThere hasn't been a single case of a college player missing time due to an injury sustained during a court storming. I am not aware of any instances of officials or coaches sustaining any injuries either. I know some made it seem like Filipowskis leg was ripped clean off his body but he played in the next game with no issue.
There may be isolated incidents of fans getting injured who had no intention of being involved but they are few and far between. People get hit by foul balls, players crash into courtside seats, discuses get thrown into crowds, bulls run into alleyways, hot dog cannons hit people between the eyes, fans storm the court after big upsets in college basketball. There are always risks spectating a live sporting event.
The biggest risk is borne by those choosing to participate, hence the skiing and football examples.
I'm all for taking steps to make it safer. Most schools have and that's why the Camp Randall incident was 31 years ago and you don't see things like that happening anymore.
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