FBI originally reported that violent crime was down 2.1% in 2022. Now they report it was actually up 4.5%.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 09:06:18 AM
FBI originally reported that violent crime was down 2.1% in 2022. Now they report it was actually up 4.5%.
The dental crime wave has run amok
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66314.msg1681579#msg1681579
Quote from: Pakuni on October 17, 2024, 09:13:24 AM
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66314.msg1681579#msg1681579
Why confine discussion of an important topic to a silly and infantile thread?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 09:23:08 AM
Why confine discussion of an important topic to a silly and infantile thread?
Exposing the suffering and loss that dental criminals are inflicting upon society - our fellow citizens - is neither silly nor infantile.
But I'm sure you're seeking a sincere discussion of FBI reporting methods, and not at all posting this for silly and infantile political reasons.
TAMU already explained the Fox News talking point.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 17, 2024, 09:32:36 AM
Exposing the suffering and loss that dental criminals are inflicting upon society - our fellow citizens - is neither silly nor infantile.
But I'm sure you're seeking a sincere discussion of FBI reporting methods, and not at all posting this for silly and infantile political reasons.
The people here who insist violent crime in the US is down cite the FBI stats as proof. It's silly and infantile to point out that the "proof" they they championed ended up proving the contrary?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 09:45:07 AM
The people here who insist violent crime in the US is down cite the FBI stats as proof. It's silly and infantile to point out that the "proof" they they championed ended up proving the contrary?
Are you scared? You sound scared.
Anyway...
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home
Anyway, I will point out the only reason the "silly and infantile" thread exists, is because someone decided that it would be a good idea to post about every crime reported around the Marquette campus.
Of course the implication being that Marquette and Milwaukee is a violent place, full of crime. Of course the irony being that anyone can slice and dice data to make a geographic area...or a profession...look dangerous.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 17, 2024, 09:46:56 AM
Are you scared? You sound scared.
Anyway...
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home
Me? Nope. I live in a safe area. But not everyone in the USA does. I empathize with those people.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 09:49:48 AM
Me? Nope. I live in a safe area. But not everyone in the USA does. I empathize with those people.
You must not have many dentists where you live
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 09:45:07 AM
The people here who insist violent crime in the US is down cite the FBI stats as proof. It's silly and infantile to point out that the "proof" they they championed ended up proving the contrary?
Yes, because you're not posting this out of any actual concern about crime or FBI methodology. You're trying to get your "gotcha" moment. You admit as much.
Also, why are we talking about 2022, when we have 2023 figures?
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2023-crime-in-the-nation-statistics
But what about Chicago
Quote from: Pakuni on October 17, 2024, 09:59:39 AM
Yes, because you're not posting this out of any actual concern about crime or FBI methodology. You're trying to get your "gotcha" moment. You admit as much.
Also, why are we talking about 2022, when we have 2023 figures?
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2023-crime-in-the-nation-statistics
LOL
2023 unrevised figures. What good are figures that a year from now will end up in the trash can?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 10:04:56 AM
LOL
2023 unrevised figures. What good are figures that a year from now will end up in the trash can?
I'm surprised crime rates would be higher when republicans have more governorships and state legislatures.
I'd like to thank Lenny for starting this thread and correcting the record. It won't undo the bull chit and outright lies some of you guys peddle here, always trying to downplay the serious crime problem we have in this country. Always mocking anyone who wants to discuss these issues truthfully.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 10:04:56 AM
LOL
2023 unrevised figures. What good are figures that a year from now will end up in the trash can?
Because they almost certainly are a more accurate indicator of the state of affairs in October 2024 than numbers from more than two years ago.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 17, 2024, 10:15:34 AM
I'd like to thank Lenny for starting this thread and correcting the record. It won't undo the bull chit and outright lies some of you guys peddle here, always trying to downplay the serious crime problem we have in this country. Always mocking anyone who wants to discuss these issues truthfully.
Based on your posting history, you don't care much about truth.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 17, 2024, 10:15:34 AM
I'd like to thank Lenny for starting this thread and correcting the record. It won't undo the bull chit and outright lies some of you guys peddle here, always trying to downplay the serious crime problem we have in this country. Always mocking anyone who wants to discuss these issues truthfully.
lol
I'm grateful for all of those who have helped drive crime down in 2023, be they police or the public or politicians of whatever party.
Related:
At least seven criminals granted clemency by the previous president have returned to lives of crime.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/health-care-fraudster-philip-esformes-latest-trump-clemency-recipient-rcna175681d
https://www.ncja.org/crimeandjusticenews/six-who-got-trump-clemency-have-been-charged-with-new-crimes
And just wait for the crime numbers if the convicted felon gets elected again and pardons hundreds of violent domestic terrorists, as he has repeatedly promised to do.
Law and order, ya know.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 17, 2024, 09:44:51 AM
TAMU already explained the Fox News talking point.
No, he made claims without presenting data. If there were such wild swings year after year, can't imagine results would be presented "early".
Sure, there can be small adjustments — but this was a wild swing. And disgraceful!
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 17, 2024, 10:50:26 AM
Based on your posting history, you don't care much about truth.
Oh, come on Satan. I know you don't really mean that. I just chalk up your crankiness to your anxiety over the upcoming national election.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 17, 2024, 01:14:03 PM
Oh, come on Satan. I know you don't really mean that. I just chalk up your crankiness to your anxiety over the upcoming national election.
I'm not anxious about the national election. I'm not obesssed with politics.
And I 100% meant it. You have proven time and again that truth isn't important to you.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 09:06:18 AM
FBI originally reported that violent crime was down 2.1% in 2022. Now they report it was actually up 4.5%.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 16, 2024, 09:27:48 PM
For those who don't know, these stats always increase over time as more data comes in. It happened under the Trump administration as well. Even with the updates, the violent crime rate is near to the lowest rate in the past 50 years.
The 2021, 2022, 2023 violent crime rates (Bidens first three years) have all been lower than Trumps last year. So they still say violent crime is decreasing. They are also about half what they were in the early 90s despite claims that it has never been as bad as it is now.
This is FOX taking something standard and spinning it to be something nefarious.
And for the record, I don't think these numbers say anything good/bad about eithet Biden or Trump. Because who is president has a statistically insignificant impact on violent crime rates.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 17, 2024, 01:14:03 PM
Oh, come on Satan. I know you don't really mean that. I just chalk up your crankiness to your anxiety over the upcoming national election.
He's a cranky guy who routinely picks fights on Scoop on a myriad of topics. I don't know if he's obsessed with politics, but there's no doubt he's obsessed with this place.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 03:38:59 PM
He's a cranky guy who routinely picks fights on Scoop on a myriad of topics. I don't know if he's obsessed with politics, but there's no doubt he's obsessed with this place.
I can't describe the amount of irony on display. It is absolutely meteoric.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 17, 2024, 03:58:13 PM
I can't describe the amount of irony on display. It is absolutely meteoric.
There are a few people with whom I have regular back and forth. Not as many as you, to be sure. But a few. The length of my list pales in comparison to Sultan's. Yours does too.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 04:10:41 PM
There are a few people with whom I have regular back and forth. Not as many as you, to be sure. But a few. The length of my list pales in comparison to Sultan's. Yours does too.
Badge of Honor. Thank you Lenny's for recognizing my accomplishment!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 04:10:41 PM
There are a few people with whom I have regular back and forth. Not as many as you, to be sure. But a few. The length of my list pales in comparison to Sultan's. Yours does too.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were keeping score. I argue with the comment and the message behind it. I don't care who makes the comment. I've agreed with you, Goose, rocket, and JayBee plenty of times... as well as argued with Pakuni, Jockey, Sultan, JWags, and a litany of others. The difference is that I don't need 'friends' (I've never met anyone on this board in person, to my knowledge) to back me up and I'm okay with them criticizing my takes. I WILL say that none of your 'crew' has the same smoke for each other, and you guys rarely criticize each others bad takes... rocket has them on a daily basis.
But then again, none of it matters since this is just scoop... but I guess you care!
This is the kind of violent criminal the GOP presidential candidate is promising to pardon:
https://apnews.com/article/long-island-funeral-home-owner-capitol-riot-8624f870e3ca32db5345bc5161afb3d5?
A true patriot and political prisoner.
Quote from: MU82 on October 17, 2024, 04:52:56 PM
This is the kind of violent criminal the GOP presidential candidate is promising to pardon:
https://apnews.com/article/long-island-funeral-home-owner-capitol-riot-8624f870e3ca32db5345bc5161afb3d5?
A true patriot and political prisoner.
Interesting, very interesting. Won't help crime numbers
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 17, 2024, 04:12:13 PM
Badge of Honor. Thank you Lenny's for recognizing my accomplishment!
That you wear your addiction to Scoop and all the mean spiritedness that emanates from it as an accomplishment says volumes.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 17, 2024, 03:24:12 PM
The 2021, 2022, 2023 violent crime rates (Bidens first three years) have all been lower than Trumps last year. So they still say violent crime is decreasing. They are also about half what they were in the early 90s despite claims that it has never been as bad as it is now.
This is FOX taking something standard and spinning it to be something nefarious.
And for the record, I don't think these numbers say anything good/bad about eithet Biden or Trump. Because who is president has a statistically insignificant impact on violent crime rates.
You won't receive any genuine responses to this.
But thanks for trying
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 05:38:42 PM
That you wear your addiction to Scoop and all the mean spiritedness that emanates from it as an accomplishment says volumes.
I've actually hired a team to post while I'm sleeping an sh*tting too.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 17, 2024, 03:24:12 PM
The 2021, 2022, 2023 violent crime rates (Bidens first three years) have all been lower than Trumps last year. So they still say violent crime is decreasing. They are also about half what they were in the early 90s despite claims that it has never been as bad as it is now.
This is FOX taking something standard and spinning it to be something nefarious.
And for the record, I don't think these numbers say anything good/bad about eithet Biden or Trump. Because who is president has a statistically insignificant impact on violent crime rates.
Excellent post.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 17, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
I've actually hired a team to post while I'm sleeping an sh*tting too.
No way you can afford that. But I'd believe you sleep and sh!t concurrently to give more time online.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 08:28:42 PM
No way you can afford that. But I'd believe you sleep and sh!t concurrently to give more time online.
I hire undocumented workers to post for me, then stick them on a bus to East Troy when they're done.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 18, 2024, 08:28:17 AM
I hire undocumented workers to post for me, then stick them on a bus to East Troy when they're done.
Man, that's cruel sending anyone to such a dump of a city.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2024, 08:41:10 AM
Man, that's cruel sending anyone to such a dump of a city.
Well I can't afford to send them to Martha's Vineyard.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 17, 2024, 10:15:34 AM
I'd like to thank Lenny for starting this thread and correcting the record. It won't undo the bull chit and outright lies some of you guys peddle here, always trying to downplay the serious crime problem we have in this country. Always mocking anyone who wants to discuss these issues truthfully.
100%
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2024, 09:06:18 AM
FBI originally reported that violent crime was down 2.1% in 2022. Now they report it was actually up 4.5%.
thx Lennys, for starting the string. Reading through commentary of the willfully ignorant is good stuff...never disappoints!
Quote from: Viper on October 19, 2024, 03:42:09 PM
thx Lennys, for starting the string. Reading through commentary of the willfully ignorant is good stuff...never disappoints!
😂😂😂
Quote from: Viper on October 19, 2024, 03:42:09 PM
thx Lennys, for starting the string. Reading through commentary of the willfully ignorant is good stuff...never disappoints!
Speaking of willfully ignorant, have you watched any of Tyler Kolek's play with the Knicks?
People here start threads so they can whine about something since the economy is smokin'.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 18, 2024, 08:28:17 AM
I hire undocumented workers to post for me, then stick them on a bus to East Troy when they're done.
This (until now) has remained a secret because (like you) they have a great deal of difficulty expressing themselves in English. In their defense, English is a second language for them.