Tyler had 11 Points in 14 Minutes shot 3/5 from 3 with 1 Rebound and 1 Assist in Knicks Pre Season win
Is he wearing 21 or 13 in the regular season?
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 06, 2024, 07:35:52 PM
Tyler had 11 Points in 14 Minutes shot 3/5 from 3 with 1 Rebound and 1 Assist in Knicks Pre Season win
Plus 2 steals, and importantly for a budding point guard, no turnovers, if I read the box score correctly.
Wednesday night against Wizards------15 points and 5 assists in 17 minutes of play. Looking good.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 10, 2024, 02:20:11 AM
Wednesday night against Wizards------15 points and 5 assists in 17 minutes of play. Looking good.
Shot 6-10 from field . Nice he is getting solid minutes to learn.
I believe the backup point deuce mcbride is out so theres more minutes to go around
I love all the social media posts that are like, "Where did this guy come from?"
Hard to believe there were scoopers saying Tyler should come back for another year and some even saying he would never play in the NBA.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 11, 2024, 07:58:04 AM
Hard to believe there were scoopers saying Tyler should come back for another year and some even saying he would never play in the NBA.
In their defense, he didn't know how to read so more schooling was a decent option
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 11, 2024, 07:58:04 AM
Hard to believe there were scoopers saying Tyler should come back for another year and some even saying he would never play in the NBA.
I really think he's going to miss playing for Marquette. There is no greater honor than playing for your school...especially back when you had to be an amateur.
This years team would be ranked in the top 5 and there would be talk of one of the best backcourts of all time if he did return... alas
I think we'll still be top 5 at some point
Quote from: DoctorV on October 11, 2024, 09:08:39 AM
This years team would be ranked in the top 5 and there would be talk of one of the best backcourts of all time if he did return... alas
If only athletes did what's best for fans instead of what's best for their own lives.
I heard Kolek couldn't play in the league because of his attitude. Owners were talking.
TK on ESPN but hasnt played in the first half, bummer. Was hoping to see him
Also for a preaseason game its an extremely high level basketball game between two top teams. Would be fun to see how he looks in a game at this pace and skill level
Oso will be on espn after. He should def get minutes
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on October 13, 2024, 06:15:46 PM
TK on ESPN but hasnt played in the first half, bummer. Was hoping to see him
Also for a preaseason game its an extremely high level basketball game between two top teams. Would be fun to see how he looks in a game at this pace and skill level
Oso will be on espn after. He should def get minutes
Very disappointed. It looks like he's the 11th/12th man.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 13, 2024, 06:26:19 PM
Very disappointed. It looks like he's the 11th/12th man.
He wont play much this year unless there is an injury...which obviously isn't out of the question.
Really think Oso has a chance to play double digit meaningful minutes per game though.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 13, 2024, 06:40:50 PM
He wont play much this year unless there is an injury...which obviously isn't out of the question.
Really think Oso has a chance to play double digit meaningful minutes per game though.
I don't understand why Payne is ahead of him. He's such a streaky and one dimensional player. He can got hot but is basically a gunner. TyKo will get to learn behind Brunson but I thought he would get some mins.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on October 13, 2024, 06:40:50 PM
He wont play much this year unless there is an injury...which obviously isn't out of the question.
It's a long season. He could emerge as it wears on as well. He has a higher upside than Cam Payne IMO.
I don't think Thibs really plays rookies that aren't defensive first players.
Thibs has a history of not playing rookies at all.
https://www.startribune.com/history-tells-us-timberwolves-rookies-shouldn-t-expect-to-play-much/486857271
Quote from: MUbiz on October 13, 2024, 11:20:17 PM
Thibs has a history of not playing rookies at all.
https://www.startribune.com/history-tells-us-timberwolves-rookies-shouldn-t-expect-to-play-much/486857271
That article is from awhile ago. He has played rookies while at the Knicks. Quickley, Toppin and Grimes all got double digit minutes their first year.
The DNP Coaches Decision was not optimal. However, it was positive that TyKo got some decent opportunities and played well the first two games. My guess is he bounces up and down from G League year one. Get some experience and eventually work his way onto the second team. Being a pass first guard helps his cause.
Sounded like kolek was doing pretty well through games 1 and 2.
Is it common practice for teams to ramp up to their starters later in the preseason and bench players disappear?
Depends on the coach. Depends on the situation.
The best way to determine how much TK will play in the regular season is to wait and find out.
Tyko will play some mins tonight because the Knicks aren't playing their starters.
Perhaps I should have a conversation with Thibs regardless.
I am sure it would help.
Kolek playing early tonight with starters resting........no points but 5 rebounds and 4 assists in 7 minutes
5 dimes, 5 rebs, in 8 mins thus far. :)
0-2:from the floor however. :(
He just laced a triple. 3 fouis though. This seems fishy.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 15, 2024, 07:31:21 PM
He just laced a triple. 3 fouis though. This seems fishy.
Is this you saying we gotta kill some whales some TK can thrive?
Knick fans on twitter already in deep lust with TKO..........
8-)
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on October 15, 2024, 07:33:51 PM
Is this you saying we gotta kill some whales some TK can thrive?
WTF? Stop attacking our marine mammals.
Triple double watch
24 minutes. 7 points. 8 rebounds. 9 assists.
Pretty good line.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 15, 2024, 09:35:28 PM
24 minutes. 7 points. 8 rebounds. 9 assists.
Pretty good line.
Why was 6 afraid of Kolek? Because 7/8/9!
Come for the justified praise, stay for the highlights in the embedded tweet that was vintage TK. Dude just spraying dimes all over the place
https://x.com/benritholtznba/status/1846384154331828427?s=46
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2024, 07:23:57 PM
I am sure it would help.
"Who let the kid with the manatee t-shirt into the locker room?"
Quote from: JWags85 on October 16, 2024, 07:17:19 AMDude just spraying dimes all over the place
I believe I've seen this film before
I think one thing that will play in TK's favor in regard to playing time is his age. I think he is 23y and that is a not typical age for a rookie. He is entering the NBA as a man and has NBA skills. I would be surprised if he did not get real minutes this season.
Quote from: Goose on October 16, 2024, 08:04:51 AM
I think one thing that will play in TK's favor in regard to playing time is his age. I think he is 23y and that is a not typical age for a rookie. He is entering the NBA as a man and has NBA skills. I would be surprised if he did not get real minutes this season.
I dunno. I think he'll regret not playing for the name on the front of the jersey instead of an NBA paycheck
I don't think they are doling out NBA minutes based on age. If he can play, he will play. If he can't, he won't.
I enjoy the Brunson comparisons.
Fluff
No shxt they are not doling out minutes by age. My point is he is not an 18 or 19y kid that is raw, he is grown man and savvy player.
Quote from: Goose on October 16, 2024, 08:24:16 AM
Fluff
No shxt they are not doling out minutes by age. My point is he is not an 18 or 19y kid that is raw, he is grown man and savvy player.
Oh. So if he is a savvy player it wouldn't matter his age. Thanks for confirming your initial post was irrelevent.
Quote from: Goose on October 16, 2024, 08:04:51 AM
I think one thing that will play in TK's favor in regard to playing time is his age. I think he is 23y and that is a not typical age for a rookie. He is entering the NBA as a man and has NBA skills. I would be surprised if he did not get real minutes this season.
Goose:
In addition Tyler makes his money by passing . team mates love having that kind of guy on the floor.
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 16, 2024, 08:48:09 AM
Goose:
In addition Tyler makes his money by passing . team mates love having that kind of guy on the floor.
Recent polls said guys unanimously hate guys like that
Makes everyone look selfish.
TK on the outs.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 16, 2024, 07:27:06 AM
"Who let the kid with the manatee t-shirt into the locker room?"
What kid?
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 16, 2024, 08:13:10 AM
I don't think they are doling out NBA minutes based on age. If he can play, he will play. If he can't, he won't.
Patrick Williams and the Bulls do not endorse this statement.
Quote from: JWags85 on October 16, 2024, 07:17:19 AM
Come for the justified praise, stay for the highlights in the embedded tweet that was vintage TK. Dude just spraying dimes all over the place
https://x.com/benritholtznba/status/1846384154331828427?s=46
Thanks for posting. Enjoyable watch.
TK is so good in the pick-and-roll.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 16, 2024, 09:19:34 AM
What kid?
The 4'5" kid in the manatee shirt that wants to talk to the coach.
Kole's taking over for the Knicks. Has scored the last 8 straight for them in a one possession game. Ironically, Johnny Davis hit a 3 footer to put the Wizards ahead and ended up pulling it out.
But that's ok, Kolek is a 2nd round pick who is playing himself into a rotation spot on a top 3 team in the East and getting Knicks social media excited and joyous. Davis is a 3rd year lottery pick who has spent half his career in the G League trying to scrape out minutes on the worst team in the conference
Quote from: Goose on October 16, 2024, 08:04:51 AM
I think one thing that will play in TK's favor in regard to playing time is his age. I think he is 23y and that is a not typical age for a rookie. He is entering the NBA as a man and has NBA skills. I would be surprised if he did not get real minutes this season.
His game is more refined and he's more mature physically and mentally than most rookies, especially the 18 and 19 year olds. Definitely mitigates in his favor.
Tyler overall had a solid pre season. Passing was excellent . Liked some of the buckets he made down the stretch versus Wizards, demonstrates confidence and leadership.
Needs to keep working hard in practice. So coaches are confident in giving him regular season minutes when opportunities arise.
Lenny,
Of course that plays into TK's favor in getting playing time. I think TK is going to have a very productive rookie season and looking forward to watching him play as a New York Knick.
Knicks getting spanked.
Payne goes brick, foul, destroyed off a screen for a Hauser 3. In the span of 15 seconds.
Unleash TK.
Thibs is so frustrating
Kolek should be getting in the game in the next 15 min.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on October 22, 2024, 07:01:43 PM
Knicks getting spanked.
Payne goes brick, foul, destroyed off a screen for a Hauser 3. In the span of 15 seconds.
Unleash TK.
Watching Payne play for the Bucks was nearly impossible...
From what could be gathered watching the preseason, Oso is actually in the Suns' rotation. But I guess we'll find out if that's true tomorrow.
Per usual Thibs will lead a flop team with dead legs when games matter
32 pt blow out and still letting the corpse of Cam Payne play.
TKO for 3!
Got in at the 5:24 mark. Swished a 3 about a minute later. Harlan and Reggie gave him some love.
Video: https://x.com/muoverload/status/1848901165838160153?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw
So, he is officially an NBA player. Congratulations, TKo.
Celtics were one three pointer away from setting an NBA single game record then missed their next 14? 15? once Tyler came in.
Lockdown defender.
Threw the ball away a few times and missed a layup. Room to improve - and he will, but seemingly only in garbage time for a bit.
Quote from: MU82 on October 22, 2024, 09:09:41 PM
Threw the ball away a few times and missed a layup. Room to improve - and he will, but seemingly only in garbage time for a bit.
And to think he could be getting ready for prime time versus Stony Brook
Quote from: avid1010 on October 22, 2024, 08:03:18 PM
Watching Payne play for the Bucks was nearly impossible...
He was known as the "tank commander" on the Bulls.
Viper predicted zero NBA minutes played for Kolek. Guy hits a 3 in an NBA game the first time he played after leaving college. Huh.
Quote from: tower912 on October 22, 2024, 08:50:42 PM
So, he is officially an NBA player. Congratulations, TKo.
Really cool to see. Has to be an unbelievable feeling to get that first bucket.
A decidedly uneven debut.
Quote from: StillWarriors on October 23, 2024, 07:51:37 AM
Really cool to see. Has to be an unbelievable feeling to get that first bucket.
Especially getting it in Boston growing up a Celtics fan.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on October 23, 2024, 08:27:10 AM
A decidedly uneven debut.
you could say that about the entire Knicks team last night.
Notable rookies:
Steve Nash: Played in 65 games, Started 2, ---- 10 min / game, 3.5 ppg
Jimmy Butler: Played in 42 games, Started 0, ---- 8.5 min / game, 2.6 ppg
Jalen Brunson: Played in 73 games, Started 38, ---- 21.8 min / game, 9.3 ppg
Quote from: The Lens on October 23, 2024, 09:26:43 AM
Notable rookies:
Steve Nash: Played in 65 games, Started 2, ---- 10 min / game, 3.5 ppg
Jimmy Butler: Played in 42 games, Started 0, ---- 8.5 min / game, 2.6 ppg
Jalen Brunson: Played in 73 games, Started 38, ---- 21.8 min / game, 9.3 ppg
Clearly, the comp is Brunson.
https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/tyler_kolek_could_play_a_major_role_in_knicks_success_this_season/s1_13132_41109924?utm_source=mb&utm_medium=email&mb_edition=20241024&mb_loc=left_r
Quote from: Elonsmusk on October 24, 2024, 08:49:16 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/tyler_kolek_could_play_a_major_role_in_knicks_success_this_season/s1_13132_41109924?utm_source=mb&utm_medium=email&mb_edition=20241024&mb_loc=left_r
Barring injuries to other PGs, it probably will take awhile for Thibs to feel comfortable giving TK meaningful minutes. And that's OK. He's gonna have a long career.
From the article:
Quote
If Thibodeau wants to avoid the fate of last year's team where it looked like a triage unit in the postseason, he might have to use some of the youngsters.
Yes, this will be the year Thibs changes the way he's coached his entire career.
Quote from: MU82 on October 24, 2024, 01:23:05 PM
Barring injuries to other PGs, it probably will take awhile for Thibs to feel comfortable giving TK meaningful minutes. And that's OK. He's gonna have a long career.
Yeah that's why one of my comps was Jimmy. By year three Jimmy was leading the league in minutes but Thibs used him as a bit player early on.
Quote from: The Lens on October 24, 2024, 03:07:33 PM
Yeah that's why one of my comps was Jimmy. By year three Jimmy was leading the league in minutes but Thibs used him as a bit player early on.
Thibs really loves the players that he helps develop. TK will be getting minutes by midseason.
Knicks have a bazillion-point lead over the Pistons late in the 3Q. TK could play a lot of the 4Q.
TyKo 4 1 and 0 shot 2/3 with one steal in 5 minutes in Knicks win.
Unfortunately TK is gonna get THibs'd
They were up 27 pts in the 1st half and he couldnt even get in
Run the starters into the ground. Give the a corpse like Cam Payne some minutes. Lose when it matters.
The thibs way
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 01, 2024, 09:14:52 PMUnfortunately TK is gonna get THibs'd
They were up 27 pts in the 1st half and he couldnt even get in
Run the starters into the ground. Give the a corpse like Cam Payne some minutes. Lose when it matters.
The thibs way
Thibs has never really had a championship roster yo work with (the Heat were way better his first 2 years in Chicago when they had a chance). He's a great NBA coach, but yes, does wear his starters down. I'd sure take him coaching the Bucks, though.
With Payne out due to injury, Kolek got to play 5 1/2 non-garbage-time minutes against Houston on Monday.
He started the second quarter, hit a 3-pointer, and had no other stats before Brunson came back in at the 6:28 mark.
Quote from: MU82 on November 05, 2024, 01:30:42 AMWith Payne out due to injury, Kolek got to play 5 1/2 non-garbage-time minutes against Houston on Monday.
He started the second quarter, hit a 3-pointer, and had no other stats before Brunson came back in at the 6:28 mark.
Thanks for the update 82. Hopefully he continues to hit the open three, has an occasional assist and plays good D. His minutes will increase. If the box scores continue to show positive plus/minus thibs will keep playing him. Brunson can't play the entire game. Tough to be a rookie in the NBA.
Quote from: MU82 on November 05, 2024, 01:30:42 AMWith Payne out due to injury, Kolek got to play 5 1/2 non-garbage-time minutes against Houston on Monday.
He started the second quarter, hit a 3-pointer, and had no other stats before Brunson came back in at the 6:28 mark.
Accounted for 100% of the Knicks' bench points.
If Thibs runs the tires off Brunson this early, TKO could see some extended run later in the season.
Getting some minutes tonight....off to a good start.
Quote from: avid1010 on November 06, 2024, 07:38:43 PMGetting some minutes tonight....off to a good start.
Triple, Triple. 2-2. Should be in there to close the show.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 06, 2024, 08:44:35 PMTriple, Triple. 2-2. Should be in there to close the show.
Got a couple minutes early in the 4th and turned a deficit into a lead. They took him out and promptly lost the game
Unlikely it woulda mattered, but TK has done nothing to not earn a shot for a few more minutes.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 06, 2024, 08:51:54 PMGot a couple minutes early in the 4th and turned a deficit into a lead. They took him out and promptly lost the game
Unlikely it woulda mattered, but TK has done nothing to not earn a shot for a few more minutes.
Exactly. Just slot him ahead of Payne and let's see what happens.
(https://i.imgur.com/w7hNGiW.jpeg)
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 06, 2024, 08:56:16 PMExactly. Just slot him ahead of Payne and let's see what happens.
Well, he played the 9 minutes he did play tonight cause Payne was out haha.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 06, 2024, 10:10:52 PMWell, he played the 9 minutes he did play tonight cause Payne was out haha.
I noticed that. My take is Payne should be dismissed so Tyko gets more pt. :)
Just let the process play out. He's less than 10 games into his career.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 07, 2024, 08:02:31 AMJust let the process play out. He's less than 10 games into his career.
Counterpoint: No
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 07, 2024, 08:02:31 AMJust let the process play out. He's less than 10 games into his career.
I think Kolek should be waived
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 07, 2024, 11:39:53 AMI think Kolek should be waived
I agree with this analysis
Clyde says Tyler is a "Precocious Neophite"
Also commentary on Dean "The Dream" Meminger
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/11/08/new-york-knicks-broadcaster-walt-clyde-frazier-praises-nba-rookie-tyler-kolek-from-marquette/76094019007/
https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/new-york-knicks-legend-walt-clyde-frazier-high-hopes-tyler-kolek
Quote from: Herman Cain on November 08, 2024, 05:58:46 PMClyde says Tyler is a "Precocious Neophite"
Also commentary on Dean "The Dream" Meminger
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/11/08/new-york-knicks-broadcaster-walt-clyde-frazier-praises-nba-rookie-tyler-kolek-from-marquette/76094019007/
https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/new-york-knicks-legend-walt-clyde-frazier-high-hopes-tyler-kolek
Sounds disgusting
Some second QTR run for TK again
missed his first 3 of the year
but 5 pts on 2/3 with 3 boards and a dime.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 08, 2024, 07:31:15 PMSome second QTR run for TK again
missed his first 3 of the year
but 5 pts on 2/3 with 3 boards and a dime.
Waive him, bad attitude
8-4-2 in 16 min vs the Bucks.
As the Bucks continue to flounder, I've thought about what an interesting strategy it would have been for them to take both Kolek and Oso. 4 year college players with great chemistry, unique skill sets, that would seem to integrate well into where the Bucks are weak- PG and a versatile, athletic, strong defender like Oso.
Horst keeps swinging for the fences with guys like Beauchamp and this year's 1st rounder. Sometimes the best move is to just take proven production and experience over the teenage prospect with potentially higher upside. Even ones that played in your own arena for 3 and 4 years.
Tyler and Oso wouldn't have helped this Bucks team.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 09, 2024, 09:48:10 AMTyler and Oso wouldn't have helped this Bucks team.
Correct. The time for those type of players was 3-4 years ago. With the age of this roster, trying to hit a HR on a Kawhi-type is all they have at the moment
Tyler Kolek has joined Club Trillion. 1:46 played, 0-fer
I don't follow the NBA closely, but I do check the box scores for MU guys. That's a mighty tight rotation in NY.
Quote from: avid1010 on November 11, 2024, 07:42:35 AMI don't follow the NBA closely, but I do check the box scores for MU guys. That's a mighty tight rotation in NY.
Thought the same thing. Thibs isn't messing around. Must be trying to get some good chemistry with the starting five with the addition of Towns. But that short of a bench doesn't seem sustainable.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 11, 2024, 07:51:02 AMThought the same thing. Thibs isn't messing around. Must be trying to get some good chemistry with the starting five with the addition of Towns. But that short of a bench doesn't seem sustainable.
Normal Thibs
I don't understand how Thibs is still given the leeway to do this. He's wearing down his team for the games that matter most and increasing short- and long-term injury risk.
It's a massive strategic flaw. He would be a truly great coach if he learned to spread minutes around in the regular season.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 11, 2024, 01:10:42 PMI don't understand how Thibs is still given the leeway to do this. He's wearing down his team for the games that matter most and increasing short- and long-term injury risk.
It's a massive strategic flaw. He would be a truly great coach if he learned to spread minutes around in the regular season.
I feel like Thibs is the guy you hire to elevate your team, but you get rid of him when you are really a contender. He can develop you to that point but won't get you over the hump.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 11, 2024, 02:26:20 PMI feel like Thibs is the guy you hire to elevate your team, but you get rid of him when you are really a contender. He can develop you to that point but won't get you over the hump.
I agree with this analysis.
I know I'd take him over Doc.
Quote from: Holy hell all time on November 11, 2024, 02:44:19 PMI know I'd take him over Doc.
I would take pretty much anyone over Doc at this point.
To further the point, though, I'm just not sure Thibodeau has ever had a championship roster. His Bulls teams were good, but they were not as good as the "Heatles" teams (or Cleveland his last year there). His last 2 years in Minnesota the rosters were fine, but they weren't remotely close to what GS (and other Western Conference teams) were. And since taking over the Knicks their roster just isn't as good as teams like what the Bucks were or now the C's are.
If I were the Thunder or C's or Nuggets or any other contender, I would have no worries about coaching if Thibs was on my bench.
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 11, 2024, 06:10:43 PMShaka too Bucks
At least when we hire Wardle we'll get some aircraft carriers
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 11, 2024, 06:12:04 PMAt least when we hire Wardle we'll get some aircraft carriers
Darn right!
And a new roster every year. Woot.
Quote from: tower912 on November 11, 2024, 06:43:35 PMAnd a new roster every year. Woot.
Makes for a more active Scoop
Writing is on the wall, TKO needs to transfer
Excellent PR for Tyler
https://nypost.com/2024/11/10/sports/knicks-pleased-with-tyler-koleks-development-hes-a-worker/
Quote from: Herman Cain on November 13, 2024, 06:50:29 AMExcellent PR for Tyler
https://nypost.com/2024/11/10/sports/knicks-pleased-with-tyler-koleks-development-hes-a-worker/
Good story, Herman, thanks for posting.
Tyko out ,due to Illness ,missed potential Omax on-court reunion
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/knicks-tyler-kolek-dealing-with-illness/
You mean on bench reunion.
We are all thankful for what they gave to Marquette and wish them the best!
Excellent PR for Tyler .
https://nypost.com/2025/01/02/sports/knicks-tyler-kolek-pulls-rare-g-league-nba-doubleheader/