Now that we have the good news that Kam is returning, it appears as MU has a very solid foundation to build off as we head into 2024-25 Season.
Shaka's approach to roster building , primarily through High School Talent, is definitely playing off. MU will be a seasoned team with experience in Big Games.
Our three Seniors Kam, Stevie and Jop all are positioned to have Excellent Senior Season.
Two Juniors, Chase and Gold have shown continuous improvement , as upper classmen they should have even more game impact.
Another Junior, Jones The Younger, should be ready to go by Conference Season and will provide that defensive spark the team missed in his absence.
Two Sophomore, Zaide and Tre, were able to experience playing in meaningful Big East games and are poised to make the Classic Freshman to Sophomore jump
Another Sophomore, Caedin spent the season practicing against Oso , and that should have him well prepared to assume some rotation minutes. Comments from his teammates indicate he will be ready. We know he is a solid passer and rebounder, which will be helpful when he does get time.
As always , My expectations' for freshman are limited, generally it seems that one will emerge early in the rotation and a second will get some time toward the end of conference season. So the two Prospects we have coming in should make a modest contribution but it won't be something we have to rely on.
Wild Cards are Al and Transfers. Remains to be seen if Al can make a meaningful jump from non rotation freshman to sophomore. If he can make that move it is a big plus.
Shake and Staff will be looking at Portal Folks. If they can bring in a Seasoned Center that would be a plus and would not impact the roster dynamic much , as Ben could move to 4 and Jop to 3.
Used to think we need a Point Guard Transfer , but with Kam coming back, I feel very comfortable that he can run the offense well.
Would prefer the Pre- Season Schedule to be more middle of the road, not too weak but not too tough as it would help this squad to get wins under their belt.
Big East is losing a lot of players, but I am confident a lot of quality transfers will come into the League as well . So holding our position toward top of league will be a lot of work, but achievable.
Did you miss the 7 page 'Next Season" thread right next to this one?
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66061.150
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 12, 2024, 10:24:24 AM
Now that we have the good news that Kam is returning, it appears as MU has a very solid to build off as we head into 2024-25 Season.
Shaka's approach to roster building , primarily through High School Talent, is definitely playing off. MU will be a seasoned team with experience in Big Games.
Our three Seniors Kam, Stevie and Jop all are positioned to have Excellent Senior Season.
Two Juniors, Chase and Gold have shown continuous improvement , as upper classmen they should have even more game impact.
Another Junior, Jones The Younger, should be ready to go by Conference Season and will provide that defensive spark the team missed in his absence.
Two Sophomore, Zaide and Tre, were able to experience playing in meaningful Big East games and are poised to make the Classic Freshman to Sophomore jump
Another Sophomore, Caedin spent the season practicing against Oso , and that should have him well prepared to assume some rotation minutes. Comments from his teammates indicate he will be ready. We know he is a solid passer and rebounder, which will be helpful when he does get time.
As always , My expectations' for freshman are limited, generally it seems that one will emerge early in the rotation and a second will get some time toward the end of conference season. So the two Prospects we have coming in should make a modest contribution but it won't be something we have to rely on.
Wild Cards are Al and Transfers. Remains to be seen if Al can make a meaningful jump from non rotation freshman to sophomore. If he can make that move it is a big plus.
Shake and Staff will be looking at Portal Folks. If they can bring in a Seasoned Center that would be a plus and would not impact the roster dynamic much , as Ben could move to 4 and Jop to 3.
Used to think we need a Point Guard Transfer , but with Kam coming back, I feel very comfortable that he can run the offense well.
Would prefer the Pre- Season Schedule to be more middle of the road, not too weak but not too tough as it would help this squad to get wins under their belt.
Big East is losing a lot of players, but I am confident a lot of quality transfers will come into the League as well . So holding our position toward top of league will be a lot of work, but achievable.
Do the capitalized first letters of random words in here have a hidden code to them? That's the only possible thing anyone who comes to MUScoop could learn from this boilerplate post.
I'm more and more convinced that Herman is just a bot. The lack of ability to read threads. The spelling errors, the random capitalization, the weird spacing.
Starters:
G - Kam and Stevie and Chase
Bigs - Ben and Jop
Reserves:
G - Tre and Zaide and Sean when he returns... with a splash of DO
Bigs - Al, Cade, with a splash of Royce
Honestly, we don't NEED a portal player, but if Shaka finds someone who wants to win and play within the team system I'd be fine with it. Need someone who buys in though.
Kam is better as a 2 who can catch the pass and pop. He can play point some time.
Quote from: Its DJOver on April 12, 2024, 10:35:56 AM
I'm more and more convinced that Herman is just a bot. The lack of ability to read threads. The spelling errors, the random capitalization, the weird spacing.
Well, the man did die 4-years ago.
Quote from: Don_Kojis on April 12, 2024, 11:17:58 AM
Kam is better as a 2 who can catch the pass and pop. He can play point some time.
100%. Kam at the 2? Bingo. At the 1? sure...if necessary.
I don't love Outlook. Gmail/Gsuite is much easier to work with than microsoft 360 bs.
I will stick my good neck out and say the outlook is excellent.
Quote from: tower912 on April 12, 2024, 12:18:13 PM
I will stick my good neck out and say the outlook is excellent.
No point guard, no center, coach is interviewing with SEC schools, no portal transfers in, our season ended early because all we do is chuck 3s. The sky is falling.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 12, 2024, 10:31:20 AM
Did you miss the 7 page 'Next Season" thread right next to this one?
In his defense, few scoop threads are still on topic after page 3.
Quote from: Badgerhater on April 12, 2024, 12:53:26 PM
In his defense, few scoop threads are still on topic after POST 3.
Fify
Quote from: Badgerhater on April 12, 2024, 12:53:26 PM
In his defense, few scoop threads are still on topic after page 3.
No, he's just a dope
Quote from: Its DJOver on April 12, 2024, 10:35:56 AM
I'm more and more convinced that Herman is just a bot. The lack of ability to read threads. The spelling errors, the random capitalization, the weird spacing.
He is Not a Bot. It is ridiculous That You would Say such a Mean Thing.
Quote from: Don_Kojis on April 12, 2024, 11:17:58 AM
Kam is better as a 2 who can catch the pass and pop. He can play point some time.
Absolutely. He will wear down playing point.
No he won't. Good lord.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2024, 12:58:22 PM
No, he's just a dope
I've long posited that he is some sort of sad performance artist.
Kam Jones sure seemed pretty good when thrust into the PG role for high leverage games in March with zero advance preparation. I'd maybe bet on continued improvement from the incoming Big East POY contender rather than consistently assume the worst of every player on one of the best teams in Marquette history.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 12, 2024, 10:36:59 AM
Starters:
G - Kam and Stevie and Chase
Bigs - Ben and Jop
Reserves:
G - Tre and Zaide and Sean when he returns... with a splash of DO
Bigs - Al, Cade, with a splash of Royce
Honestly, we don't NEED a portal player, but if Shaka finds someone who wants to win and play within the team system I'd be fine with it. Need someone who buys in though.
That line up is not awe inspiring. Hope the incoming recruits step up. Otherwise we are mid pack in BEast while Hurley continues to rule.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 13, 2024, 06:00:28 AM
That line up is not awe inspiring. Hope the incoming recruits step up. Otherwise we are mid pack in BEast while Hurley continues to rule.
Mid pack? Not a chance. I would guess around third.
What are you seeing that all of the national pundits are missing?
Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2024, 06:28:04 AM
What are you seeing that all of the national pundits are missing?
You have to understand, Dung knows ball. His posts in the game thread explaining where Marquette is lacking really help someone understand the game.
He has this stat of head-to-ass that really paints a picture of how the game should be played.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 12, 2024, 12:16:46 PM
I don't love Outlook. Gmail/Gsuite is much easier to work with than microsoft 360 bs.
Youre nuts. Outlook for life
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 12, 2024, 10:36:59 AM
Starters:
G - Kam and Stevie and Chase
Bigs - Ben and Jop
Reserves:
G - Tre and Zaide and Sean when he returns... with a splash of DO
Bigs - Al, Cade, with a splash of Royce
Honestly, we don't NEED a portal player, but if Shaka finds someone who wants to win and play within the team system I'd be fine with it. Need someone who buys in though.
The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 13, 2024, 09:00:36 AM
The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.
Sean Jones game was best on speed and the ability to change directions. I hope I am wrong, but I do not see him coming back from this injury.
Quote from: bilsu on April 13, 2024, 10:01:56 AM
Sean Jones game was best on speed and the ability to change directions. I hope I am wrong, but I do not see him coming back from this injury.
Thanks, doctor.
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 13, 2024, 09:00:36 AM
The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.
But this thread is woefully behind the others on this same topic.
Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2024, 06:28:04 AM
What are you seeing that all of the national pundits are missing?
Huge drop off at point. No floor leadership with Oso and Tyler gone. Big loss in rebounding without Oso and Kolek. Need another wing shooter.
Leadership will likely fall to stevie.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 12, 2024, 12:16:46 PM
I don't love Outlook. Gmail/Gsuite is much easier to work with than microsoft 360 bs.
Outlook desktop is trash, but despite that, Gmail ranks as the worst email user experience since I started my professional career where my company had IBM & Lotus Notes DBs
Quote from: GB Warrior on April 13, 2024, 02:18:36 PM
Outlook desktop is trash, but despite that, Gmail ranks as the worst email user experience since I started my professional career where my company had IBM & Lotus Notes DBs
Yup. Went from Microsoft to Google for everything, including Sheets, and it's all awful.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 13, 2024, 01:14:52 PM
Huge drop off at point. No floor leadership with Oso and Tyler gone. Big loss in rebounding without Oso and Kolek. Need another wing shooter.
Leadership will likely fall to stevie.
Discernment such as you possess is the rarest of gifts, Dung Willie
Quote from: bilsu on April 13, 2024, 10:01:56 AM
Sean Jones game was best on speed and the ability to change directions. I hope I am wrong, but I do not see him coming back from this injury.
Potentially Shaka has Sean sit the entire year out to complete heal and strengthen. A one year PG Rental then becomes an option.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 12, 2024, 10:36:59 AM
Starters:
G - Kam and Stevie and Chase
Bigs - Ben and Jop
Reserves:
G - Tre and Zaide and Sean when he returns... with a splash of DO
Bigs - Al, Cade, with a splash of Royce
Honestly, we don't NEED a portal player, but if Shaka finds someone who wants to win and play within the team system I'd be fine with it. Need someone who buys in though.
In this lineup the weakest link is Jop and the 4 position in general. Someone needs to step up and be able to play D at this position (first) and then to generate some offense in spurts as Ben did this year. Ability to attack the basket would be great. Above the rim would be even better.
Quote from: WarriorFan on April 13, 2024, 05:19:03 PM
In this lineup the weakest link is Jop and the 4 position in general. Someone needs to step up and be able to play D at this position (first) and then to generate some offense in spurts as Ben did this year. Ability to attack the basket would be great. Above the rim would be even better.
Jop defended pretty well towards the end of the season. My concern on this roster is rebounding the ball and depth up front. I also think Kam is more comfortable playing the 2. The biggest question as we stand right now is whether our soph bigs will contribute and if either of our Frosh are immediate impact guys. Both have good size. They can help immensely as switchables but of course there is a learning curve. If Benny and Chase bump up their production with their extended mins we could be okay. Ross is the player I expect to a consistent ginsu knife guy on both ends of the floor.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 13, 2024, 10:28:26 AM
Thanks, doctor.
You do not need to be a doctor to see that Sean Jones's game depends having on solid knees.
Yes, being undersized with a game predicated on speed and explosiveness, Sean has a long road ahead. I am rooting for him.
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 13, 2024, 09:00:36 AM
The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.
I'm worried about what others may bring in from the portal.
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 13, 2024, 09:00:36 AM
The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.
That lineup will not compete for a BEast title or a deep run.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 13, 2024, 08:38:20 PM
That lineup will not compete for a BEast title or a deep run.
For some, your cunning truth speaking is as hard to digest as a Mazos burger, Dung Willie
Quote from: willie warrior on April 13, 2024, 08:38:20 PM
That lineup will not compete for a BEast title or a deep run.
It's really just hoping there is significant development/improvement from multiple guys over the summer.
Quote from: Johnny B on April 14, 2024, 11:15:20 AM
It's really just hoping there is significant development/improvement from multiple guys over the summer.
So...like most summers then.
I expect that the players will progress as normal.
I hope Ben is healthy this summer.
I expect Stevie to work on his ball handling and shot.
I hope Chase can get and stay healthy.
I expect Tre and Zaide to have a better understanding.
I want Amadou and Hamilton to be stronger.
I want Sean to rehab and be supported.
I want Owens and Parham to not be overwhelmed.
I want Kam to see the floor.
I want Jop to get his shot off 10% quicker.
Definitely hope to see Chase improve at finishing at the rim (when it's not a a wide open dunk).
Ben had a couple of nice backdoor passes later in the conference season. Obviously I don't expect the offense to run as much through him as it did Oso (as Oso was a unicorn in that regard) but I wonder if we'll see a bit of it.
Said it before but big leaps from both of these guys can really raise the team's ceiling.
Quote from: tower912 on April 14, 2024, 11:21:56 AM
I expect that the players will progress as normal.
I hope Ben is healthy this summer.
I expect Stevie to work on his ball handling and shot.
I hope Chase can get and stay healthy.
I expect Tre and Zaide to have a better understanding.
I want Amadou and Hamilton to be stronger.
I want Sean to rehab and be supported.
I want Owens and Parham to not be overwhelmed.
I want Kam to see the floor.
I want Jop to get his shot off 10% quicker.
Having so many experienced players returning helps MU's Cause. Older teams perform well in The Big East.
MU will be younger than this past season. But there will still be plenty of continuity.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 14, 2024, 12:49:28 PM
Definitely hope to see Chase improve at finishing at the rim (when it's not a a wide open dunk).
Ben had a couple of nice backdoor passes later in the conference season. Obviously I don't expect the offense to run as much through him as it did Oso (as Oso was a unicorn in that regard) but I wonder if we'll see a bit of it.
Said it before but big leaps from both of these guys can really raise the team's ceiling.
I agree with this analysis.
I always love referencing the Sleepers media crew and some of their wild MU takes
They got a lot of podcast content so I enjoy listening to them.
Waddell newest take has MU at 8th in his preseason rankings(nice) but mostly due to his "working theory" that Kolek aftually makes us worse.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 16, 2024, 12:06:46 PM
I always love referencing the Sleepers media crew and some of their wild MU takes
They got a lot of podcast content so I enjoy listening to them.
Waddell newest take has MU at 8th in his preseason rankings(nice) but mostly due to his "working theory" that Kolek aftually makes us worse.
Waddell is a Michigan State grad and a known Marquette hater. I can't listen to them.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 14, 2024, 12:49:28 PM
Definitely hope to see Chase improve at finishing at the rim (when it's not a a wide open dunk).
Ben had a couple of nice backdoor passes later in the conference season. Obviously I don't expect the offense to run as much through him as it did Oso (as Oso was a unicorn in that regard) but I wonder if we'll see a bit of it.
Said it before but big leaps from both of these guys can really raise the team's ceiling.
Yep. Chase was actually a pretty big disappointment. I thought he'd put it together more and be more aggressive to the hoop. Maybe next year?
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 17, 2024, 02:16:06 PM
Yep. Chase was actually a pretty big disappointment. I thought he'd put it together more and be more aggressive to the hoop. Maybe next year?
Big disappointment scoring inside the arc. His outside shooting was better than I thought it would be and his defense was a thing of beauty
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 17, 2024, 02:16:06 PM
Yep. Chase was actually a pretty big disappointment. I thought he'd put it together more and be more aggressive to the hoop. Maybe next year?
Agree, but I think the finishing will come with added strength. He's got the athleticism to finish over people, but when a defender goes straight up with him the result is too often a missed shot and no call.
Royce's mom advocating for Marquette to add a 7 footer (which would potentially snatch playing time from Royce in some capacity. I think?).
https://twitter.com/ldylion52/status/1782886204934873483?t=132nYZpv1RVNyOBhIwqEdA&s=19
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 23, 2024, 05:43:25 PM
Royce's mom advocating for Marquette to add a 7 footer (which would potentially snatch playing time from Royce in some capacity. I think?).
https://twitter.com/ldylion52/status/1782886204934873483?t=132nYZpv1RVNyOBhIwqEdA&s=19
Great, another Hauser mom
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 23, 2024, 05:43:25 PM
Royce's mom advocating for Marquette to add a 7 footer (which would potentially snatch playing time from Royce in some capacity. I think?).
https://twitter.com/ldylion52/status/1782886204934873483?t=132nYZpv1RVNyOBhIwqEdA&s=19
She is right.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2024, 05:54:34 PM
Great, another Hauser mom
Uh-oh. Spidey Sense is tingling.
But sure, we should get Jokic if he has eligibility left.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2024, 05:54:34 PM
Great, another Hauser mom
Just wait until Royce's mom rolls into Milwaukee.
Maybe Scoop can't get Shaka's attention with all the great advice we offer him, but she's not wasting any time telling that we need a 7 footer who can shoot and rebound. ;D
If she reads Scoop and values her life, she won't ever step foot in Milwaukee.
She would fit right in on scoop.
Quote from: tower912 on April 23, 2024, 07:23:03 PM
She would fit right in on scoop.
She will probably use the Rolls Royce hood ornament design as her avatar when she signs up.
Maybe she's saying Royce had shot up to 7' tall.
Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2024, 06:28:04 AM
What are you seeing that all of the national pundits are missing?
To be fair the national pundits missed a whole lot about MU in Shaka's first two seasons here.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 23, 2024, 07:48:00 PM
Maybe she's saying Royce had shot up to 7' tall.
Good point!
Quote from: wadesworld on April 23, 2024, 07:48:00 PM
Maybe she's saying Royce had shot up to 7' tall.
More likely she's had a chat with her son - who has played with Amadou and Hamilton during his visits.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 23, 2024, 09:42:02 PM
More likely she's had a chat with her son - who has played with Amadou and Hamilton during his visits.
Maybe she has an in with Onyenso.
Maybe she's in Serbia scouting for MU right now
Sean Jones just posted a video doing resistance work on a treadmill.
So good to see!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 30, 2024, 01:48:03 PM
Sean Jones just posted a video doing resistance work on a treadmill.
So good to see!
https://www.instagram.com/stories/sean_jones.5/3357812985395352476?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MTJ3dWIxOXZrYjJ2cA==
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 30, 2024, 10:12:31 PM
https://www.instagram.com/stories/sean_jones.5/3357812985395352476?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MTJ3dWIxOXZrYjJ2cA==
is that an excellent Instagram?
24/7 Writer has MU 25th. He obviously didn't consult Mr. Dodds before writing this.
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/longformarticle/ranking-college-basketballs-top-25-teams-following-nba-draft-deadline-transfer-portal-decisions-kansas-houston-auburn-alabama-uconn-duke-unc-iowa-state-232344070/
The Athletc has Marquette ranked 14th in its way-too-early top 25. Its synopsis on MU wraps up with this sentence ... which mirrors my thoughts:
"These next two years should really show if Smart's philosophy of staying out of the portal can work long-term, but he's earned the benefit of the doubt so far."
Quote from: MU82 on June 10, 2024, 02:39:55 PM
The Athletc has Marquette ranked 14th in its way-too-early top 25. Its synopsis on MU wraps up with this sentence ... which mirrors my thoughts:
"These next two years should really show if Smart's philosophy of staying out of the portal can work long-term, but he's earned the benefit of the doubt so far."
Completely agree with that sentence as well. I'm optimistic it can work.
Men's WTE Top 25: Texas, Kentucky get invited to the party
Jeff Borzello, ESPN Staff WriterJul 1, 2024, 10:00 AM ET
17. Marquette Golden Eagles
Previous ranking: 17
Tyler Kolek and Oso Ighodaro have played their final game in a Marquette uniform, but Shaka Smart brings back three starters in Kam Jones, David Joplin and Stevie Mitchell, plus key rotation players Chase Ross, Ben Gold and a potentially healthy Sean Jones. This is a team that has earned 2-seeds in each of the past two NCAA tournaments and didn't see a single player leave or enter the program via the portal this spring. The Golden Eagles shouldn't fade away quickly.
Projected starting lineup
Sean Jones (5.8 PPG)
Kam Jones (17.2 PPG)
Stevie Mitchell (8.8 PPG)
David Joplin (10.8 PPG)
Ben Gold (5.0 PPG)
Sean Jones will not be in the starting lineup come November.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 01, 2024, 05:41:59 PM
Sean Jones will not be in the starting lineup come November.
Some one needs to remind Mr Borzello that Chase Ross Averaged 21.8 minutes per game last season and will be a key player on the team.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 01, 2024, 06:56:10 PM
Some one needs to remind Mr Borzello that Chase Ross Averaged 21.8 minutes per game last season and will be a key player on the team.
What part of " returns Chase Ross.....a key rotation player" does he need to be educated about?
He obviously isn't aware of the severity of Sean's injury but pretty easy to forgive him for that.
https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1810447318644412730?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
I give MU a fighting chance.
Stevie's beard is something else.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/07/11/marquette-big-man-caedin-hamilton-preps-for-high-expectations-in-2024-25/74331896007/
Quote from: Zog from Margo on July 11, 2024, 08:40:16 AM
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/07/11/marquette-big-man-caedin-hamilton-preps-for-high-expectations-in-2024-25/74331896007/
Great article - thanks for sharing. It appears we will be seeing lots of Caedin this year on the court.
I am very excited about having additional size going into next season. From the people I have spoken with the expectations for Owens are very high. I think the athletic length of this team is going to cause a lot of issues for other teams. My expectation for next year is rising quite a bit based off what I have heard from people I trust.
Quote from: Goose on July 11, 2024, 10:12:14 AM
I am very excited about having additional size going into next season. From the people I have spoken with the expectations for Owens are very high. I think the athletic length of this team is going to cause a lot of issues for other teams. My expectation for next year is rising quite a bit based off what I have heard from people I trust.
I agree with you Goose. It is fun to see Shaka's recruiting strategy come to fruition. It is clear we will be longer, bigger and more athletic.
I understand the reservations around a redshirt freshman like Hamilton, but perhaps he's more accurately viewed as an upside true freshman. Choosing a redshirt season over senior year in prep school is unique. I'm buying the hype to the tune of 10-15 min/game next season.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on July 11, 2024, 11:05:41 PM
I understand the reservations around a redshirt freshman like Hamilton, but perhaps he's more accurately viewed as an upside true freshman. Choosing a redshirt season over senior year in prep school is unique. I'm buying the hype to the tune of 10-15 min/game next season.
None of the optimism thus far is proof of anything but I like hearing it. I hope Hamilton will be a contributor. MU does need his size and strength.
But I do like hearing good things. There is always a sliver of truth to them. It's better than the alternative like hearing nothing about Amadou.
As a Bears fan for years, I never heard one good thing about Fields passing skills at training camp. That would be something a reporter would be dying to tell if it were true. And his play as a passer backed that up every year he played for them.
Hamilton is getting good press leaks and it's encouraging. Therefore I am hopeful. Hope it continues.
I understand the enthusiasm for this year's team, and I hope it is well placed. On the other hand, I remain sort of neutral. I have no idea what to really expect. Having Kam and Chase back is a huge plus, and I do expect Ben to make a big step forward this season. But, I really do not expect Sean Jones to play this year, and the three freshmen are, well, freshmen. Who knows what to really expect from them? They all still have to learn how to play defense.
Ben Steele looks at every non-con matchup: https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/07/12/shaka-smart-and-marquette-basketball-plays-purdue-maryland-wisconsin-iowa-state-georgia-next-season/74365330007/
Marquette beat the Badgers on Sunday (https://www.muscoop.com/the%20Wisconsin%20vs.%20Marquette%20Celebrity%20Softball%20Slam%20on%20Sunday%20evening)
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on July 15, 2024, 02:33:35 PM
Marquette beat the Badgers on Sunday (https://www.muscoop.com/the%20Wisconsin%20vs.%20Marquette%20Celebrity%20Softball%20Slam%20on%20Sunday%20evening)
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/2024/07/15/marquette-and-wisconsin-nil-collectives-put-on-charity-softball-game-with-travis-diener-brian-butch/74407008007/
Just got an email promoting MU season tickets, and it contained lots of factoids.
This probably has been mentioned before, but it jumped out at me:
Marquette has ranked in the top 25 nationally in attendance each of the last 22 seasons, the only non-football school to have done so.
It was fun to be part of our largest Fiserv crowd ever last season (18,095 for NMD), and here's hoping I get a chance to be part of an even larger crowd this season!
We Are Marquette!
Quote from: MU82 on July 18, 2024, 09:55:32 AM
Just got an email promoting MU season tickets, and it contained lots of factoids.
This probably has been mentioned before, but it jumped out at me:
Marquette has ranked in the top 25 nationally in attendance each of the last 22 seasons, the only non-football school to have done so.
It was fun to be part of our largest Fiserv crowd ever last season (18,095 for NMD), and here's hoping I get a chance to be part of an even larger crowd this season!
We Are Marquette!
This is mentioned often, especially by Marquette. Seeing we have one of the largest arenas for college hoops, it is no surprise that we are continually in the top 25 in attendance.
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on July 18, 2024, 03:52:39 PM
This is mentioned often, especially by Marquette. Seeing we have one of the largest arenas for college hoops, it is no surprise that we are continually in the top 25 in attendance.
Yes....often promoted as it rightfully should be.
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on July 18, 2024, 03:52:39 PM
This is mentioned often, especially by Marquette. Seeing we have one of the largest arenas for college hoops, it is no surprise that we are continually in the top 25 in attendance.
Just because you play in a large arena does not guarantee you will sell a lot of tickets... UWM plays in a pretty good size arena...
Quote from: PointWarrior on July 18, 2024, 10:57:56 PM
Just because you play in a large arena does not guarantee you will sell a lot of tickets... UWM plays in a pretty good size arena...
DePaul and Georgetown in our conference. And Georgetown was only half-filling their arena even when they were regulars in the top 25. I'm sure there are other teams but I'm not as familiar with how schools in other conferences draw.
Quote from: source? on July 19, 2024, 12:39:06 AM
DePaul and Georgetown in our conference. And Georgetown was only half-filling their arena even when they were regulars in the top 25. I'm sure there are other teams but I'm not as familiar with how schools in other conferences draw.
NCAA has not posted 2023-2024 season on their website yet, but the 2022-2023 season is there:
https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2013/11/27/ncaa-men-s-basketball-attendance.aspx
Quote from: MUbiz on July 19, 2024, 08:35:02 AM
NCAA has not posted 2023-2024 season on their website yet, but the 2022-2023 season is there:
https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2013/11/27/ncaa-men-s-basketball-attendance.aspx
Thanks for that. Would love to see rankings by percentage of capacity, but maybe such a thing doesn't exist.
You have to pick UConn as the favorite to win the BE again this year. They may not be as good as last season, but still should be the cream of the crop. St. Johns looks like they should be significantly better than last year, and I expect SJU, MU, and Prov to be the second tier of the conference. SH and X seem to be sort of unknowns. And, the bottom of the conference looks like it might be better than last year with Depaul and Georgetown actually winning some games. MU should be in the top four in the conference, but I am not sure they will be better than that. Depends on the improvement of the young players.
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/1814338632452538523?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Quote from: MuMark on July 19, 2024, 11:44:08 AM
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/1814338632452538523?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
So uhhhhh back to Caedin Hamilton... 👀
Quote from: MuMark on July 19, 2024, 11:44:08 AM
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/1814338632452538523?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Bad defense
Quote from: Hards Alumni on July 19, 2024, 12:16:03 PM
So uhhhhh back to Caedin Hamilton... 👀
Caedin looking VERY impressive in those clips.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on July 19, 2024, 12:16:03 PM
So uhhhhh back to Caedin Hamilton... 👀
Reminds me of some of Davante's old offensive moves.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on July 19, 2024, 12:46:17 PM
Caedin looking VERY impressive in those clips.
lol. Cmon. You can project anything based on that.
Quote from: MU82 on July 19, 2024, 11:03:26 AM
Thanks for that. Would love to see rankings by percentage of capacity, but maybe such a thing doesn't exist.
You are welcome. I have seen some individual twitter accounts do percentage capacity for a league (I think it was the B12) but I do not believe the NCAA does percentage capacity. I agree though, it would be nice to see the capacity.
Caedin dunking is noteworthy. Improved vertical explosion since he got to MU. Not much else.
Nice hype video, but nothing more.
Can't draw much, but Caedin and Tre sure look like they've been spending a bunch of time with Todd Smith.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 19, 2024, 01:08:56 PM
lol. Cmon. You can project anything based on that.
I can and I
AM.
(Sincerely am impressed by his agility in those highlights. I didn't know he could move like that).
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on July 19, 2024, 01:27:48 PM
Caedin dunking is noteworthy. Improved vertical explosion since he got to MU. Not much else.
Nice hype video, but nothing more.
Of course you can. We haven't really seen the guy play in live action much before.
Old man game, excellent body positioning and instinct/feel around the hoop jump out right away.
As someone posted, I saw some Davante Gardener type of offensive flashes there. I can see where the Zach Randolph type of comps come from.
If nothing else, his offensive game should be different and unique from the other bigs. Once he starts playing again high level division I bigs I'd probably expect a lot more hook/bank/reverse layup finesse finishing than dunking, and that's ok. A bucket is a bucket.
Of course the coaches want him to go up and dunk as much as possible in practice, to instill that inner aggressiveness and such, but I suspect he will quickly find his offensive success in his wizardry and feel for the hoop, and it'll be fun to watch, fans will love it in its old school mentality like we loved Davante.
Defensively, he probably won't ever be the swiftest of foot inside, so that will probably be the final determinant on how successful he is long term at the college level.
Teams better not send a little guy on him in the post though, how he shook Stevie there was a thing of beauty, and Stevie takes that ish personal 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=KVqYUVl2W_5m3Fhw&v=lBSq-wDcb44&feature=youtu.be
Take this with a grain of salt, but my nephew hopped into Zaide Lowrey's TikTok live last night and asked Zaide if Sean was going to play this year. Zaide said Sean was not going to play.
Quote from: MUbiz on August 01, 2024, 09:37:51 AM
Take this with a grain of salt, but my nephew hopped into Zaide Lowrey's TikTok live last night and asked Zaide if Sean was going to play this year. Zaide said Sean was not going to play.
Should have ax'd Zaide Lowery, aina
Quote from: MUbiz on August 01, 2024, 09:37:51 AM
Take this with a grain of salt, but my nephew hopped into Zaide Lowrey's TikTok live last night and asked Zaide if Sean was going to play this year. Zaide said Sean was not going to play.
A report that the Sean was not introduced with the team before the open gym tonight.
Quote from: tower912 on August 01, 2024, 08:44:40 PM
A report that the Sean was not introduced with the team before the open gym tonight.
He was there......in street clothes.
I wouldn't read too much into that.......might just have been an oversight since Shaka was watching the practice as he was introducing the players.
Nice interview with Hamilton on the scout board. It appears they have him playing up top on offense like Oso. Working on his 3 pt shot. So is Clark. CH is now a sculpted 260.
So from a size standpoint, Theo John or Tom Copa.
I don't expect CH or AA to get many meaningful minutes. I'd think we go small if BG gets into foul trouble or needs a breather.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 04, 2024, 11:31:55 AM
I don't expect CH or AA to get many meaningful minutes. I'd think we go small if BG gets into foul trouble or needs a breather.
Shaka has noted a couple times now that CH would be in the rotation
I disagree. I think Shaka will play 10, especially early.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 04, 2024, 11:31:55 AM
I don't expect CH or AA to get many meaningful minutes. I'd think we go small if BG gets into foul trouble or needs a breather.
Quote from: Nukem2 on September 04, 2024, 11:37:13 AM
Shaka has noted a couple times now that CH would be in the rotation
Shaka said that he would figure "prominently in our rotation." I feel that prominent is up to interpretation however.
Yes, but... if Ben IS in early foul trouble, your choices are CH, AA, or Parham. The more BCHoopster was right, the more the young guys have to play the 5.
Quote from: tower912 on September 04, 2024, 11:53:06 AM
Yes, but... if Ben IS in early foul trouble, your choices are CH, AA, or Parham. The more BCHoopster was right, the more the young guys have to play the 5.
Or you go small.
Yes. With Joplin as your post and Owens or Amadou as your wing.
This.coming season, barring injuries, I simply do not see a lot of 4 guard sets, unless you count Owens as a guard. Stevie, Kam, Chase and Zaide has a certain appeal, I guess, with either Gold or CH in the game. But I think that will be the exception, not the rule.
I think everyone will get nice PT in the NC part of the schedule. Not a ton of heavy lifting this NC and I think that allows Shaka to test a lot of different lineups. It is going to be interesting to see how many different looks they throw out this year.
Season ticket record has been broken: https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1831391935321215318
Jeff Borzello, ESPN Staff WriterSep 9, 2024, 11:00 AM ET
Despite the incremental roster changes of the past month, there's no movement for this edition of the Way-Too-Early Top 25 rankings. So, we're going to go through each team and address the biggest question it faces.
There's still one more update coming before the start of the 2024-25 season, when we'll do a clean sweep of the rankings. We wouldn't want to look back and be wrong about anything in five months, of course.
17. Marquette Golden Eagles
Previous ranking: 17
What happens at the point guard position? All-American Tyler Kolek is off to the NBA, and backup point guard Sean Jones is still recovering from a torn ACL suffered last January. Shaka Smart could opt to move Kam Jones to the point guard spot; he's a big-time scorer and shooter, but he has shown playmaking ability. Stevie Mitchell could also handle the ball more often.
Projected starting lineup
Kam Jones (17.2 PPG)
Stevie Mitchell (8.8 PPG)
Chase Ross (6.1 PPG)
David Joplin (10.8 PPG)
Ben Gold (5.0 PPG)
Rothstein tweeted that the Big East should be announcing the schedule this week. Would love UConn at home on a Saturday finally
Quote from: swoopem on September 09, 2024, 02:59:36 PM
Rothstein tweeted that the Big East should be announcing the schedule this week. Would love UConn at home on a Saturday finally
White Sox Bill says that UConn is home on a Saturday in February.
Quote from: MUDPT on September 09, 2024, 05:13:46 PM
White Sox Bill says that UConn is home on a Saturday in February.
My birthday is February 8th. That would be lovely
Apologies if already discussed - did not read the 6 page thread. It seems I don't hear anything about Sean Jones. Shouldn't he be able to play around now? It has been 8 months. 8-12 months is my understanding of the timeline. I think I see him practicing in one of the recent posts.
Quote from: Milkshakes on September 10, 2024, 09:14:09 AM
Apologies if already discussed - did not read the 6 page thread. It seems I don't hear anything about Sean Jones. Shouldn't he be able to play around now? It has been 8 months. 8-12 months is my understanding of the timeline. I think I see him practicing in one of the recent posts.
Unless something has changed, people believe he will be back around the beginning of conference play at the earliest.
Major knee surgery in mid January. Doing all of the work. 8 months is wildly optimistic.
Quote from: Milkshakes on September 10, 2024, 09:14:09 AM
Apologies if already discussed - did not read the 6 page thread. It seems I don't hear anything about Sean Jones. Shouldn't he be able to play around now? It has been 8 months. 8-12 months is my understanding of the timeline. I think I see him practicing in one of the recent posts.
Very real chance he misses the year. Earliest estimates on his return seem to be late January or February.
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 10, 2024, 09:34:39 AM
Very real chance he misses the year. Earliest estimates on his return seem to be late January or February.
Possibly it could be best for all concerned , if Sean spends the entire season rehabbing. Come back in full health , and in game ready condition, next season when MU will need another experienced guard.
Quote from: swoopem on September 09, 2024, 02:59:36 PM
Rothstein tweeted that the Big East should be announcing the schedule this week. Would love UConn at home on a Saturday finally
Rothstein starting to leak games. I bet the schedule drops tomorrow
Quote from: swoopem on September 10, 2024, 05:47:06 PM
Rothstein starting to leak games. I bet the schedule drops tomorrow
Marquette at Xavier on Dec. 21.
My money is on Butler at Marquette being our Big East opener on either Dec. 17 or 18. The only other Big East team not playing on Dec 17/18 currently is Providence, but we know they open Big East play at DePaul on Dec. 10 and host St. John's Dec. 20.
I don't think we'll have a full week off from 12/14 to 12/21 after Finals, but it is worth noting both Butler and Providence have Finals the week of 12/16, so possible that we start with two Big East road games.
Cool, get them out of the way while the opposing students are on winter break. Kick butt, take names, pocket the Ws.
Quote from: tower912 on September 11, 2024, 08:27:53 AM
Cool, get them out of the way while the opposing students are on winter break. Kick butt, take names, pocket the Ws.
Afraid of opposing students, eh?
Man, TKO leaves and this fanbase goes #soft...
Pragmatic. I think this is going to be another fun year.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on September 09, 2024, 02:43:06 PM
Jeff Borzello, ESPN Staff WriterSep 9, 2024, 11:00 AM ET
Despite the incremental roster changes of the past month, there's no movement for this edition of the Way-Too-Early Top 25 rankings. So, we're going to go through each team and address the biggest question it faces.
There's still one more update coming before the start of the 2024-25 season, when we'll do a clean sweep of the rankings. We wouldn't want to look back and be wrong about anything in five months, of course.
17. Marquette Golden Eagles
Previous ranking: 17
What happens at the point guard position? All-American Tyler Kolek is off to the NBA, and backup point guard Sean Jones is still recovering from a torn ACL suffered last January. Shaka Smart could opt to move Kam Jones to the point guard spot; he's a big-time scorer and shooter, but he has shown playmaking ability. Stevie Mitchell could also handle the ball more often.
Projected starting lineup
Kam Jones (17.2 PPG)
Stevie Mitchell (8.8 PPG)
Chase Ross (6.1 PPG)
David Joplin (10.8 PPG)
Ben Gold (5.0 PPG)
we still need a banger inside!! calling all davante's
for all the off season activity and there was a ton of it, i wonder what is going thru the mind of shaka? is this going to be loyola-marymount 2.0 or what?
The chances that a Davante Gardner type is recruited by Shaka: 0.0%
Slow, undersized post player who was a one trick pony on offense and played no defense? MU still has a scholarship left. Go get one.
Quote from: tower912 on September 12, 2024, 07:42:25 AM
Slow, undersized post player who was a one trick pony on offense and played no defense? MU still has a scholarship left. Go get one.
Let's show some respect to Ibechillendoe
Quote from: DoctorV on September 12, 2024, 08:43:58 AM
Let's show some respect to Ibechillendoe
Quote from: tower912 on September 12, 2024, 07:42:25 AM
Slow, undersized post player with remarkable touch at the rim who was a one trick pony on offense and played no defense? MU still has a scholarship left. Go get one.
FIFY
Davante was solid. Davante would not be on this Marquette team. (Although Shaka did recruit him for a bit at VCU.)
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 12, 2024, 07:35:18 AM
The chances that a Davante Gardner type is recruited by Shaka: 0.0%
I swear to god some Marquette fans don't watch this team at all
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 12, 2024, 08:46:13 AM
FIFY
That was the one trick. Tremendous hands and touch around the basket. Some of the best I can remember.
Davante ruled loved him I will not endure this outrageous slander of one of my favorites to ever wear Marquette on their chest.
Quote from: tower912 on September 12, 2024, 07:42:25 AM
Slow, undersized post player who was a one trick pony on offense and played no defense? MU still has a scholarship left. Go get one.
I remember he scored 16 against Duke when he got to MU and we were alll 5hi king, who is this guy! And free throw? Auto-matic!
Quote from: Milkshakes on September 10, 2024, 09:14:09 AM
Apologies if already discussed - did not read the 6 page thread. It seems I don't hear anything about Sean Jones. Shouldn't he be able to play around now? It has been 8 months. 8-12 months is my understanding of the timeline. I think I see him practicing in one of the recent posts.
For what it's worth (would "very little" be an overestimation?), I saw this posted today on twitter (https://x.com/Aries_Sherrie/status/1834257584410214711)
Quote from: StillAWarrior on September 13, 2024, 01:27:56 PM
For what it's worth (would "very little" be an overestimation?), I saw this posted today on twitter (https://x.com/Aries_Sherrie/status/1834257584410214711)
Looks like he's limited to pretty much stationary jump shooting. Hopefully he's shooting a ton of shots per day. If he becomes a consistent shooter and gets his athleticism back, he'll be a heck of a player.
But that has to be old since its in his high school gym. I wouldn't read to much into any of that.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 13, 2024, 01:44:01 PM
But that has to be old since its in his high school gym. I wouldn't read to much into any of that.
I'm guessing it's from when they went home a couple weeks ago. They usually go home for most of August
Quote from: wadesworld on September 13, 2024, 01:42:08 PM
Looks like he's limited to pretty much stationary jump shooting. Hopefully he's shooting a ton of shots per day. If he becomes a consistent shooter and gets his athleticism back, he'll be a heck of a player.
No Acker 2.0?
Quote from: Pepe Sylvia on September 12, 2024, 05:39:55 PM
Davante ruled loved him I will not endure this outrageous slander of one of my favorites to ever wear Marquette on their chest.
And what a chest it was, we've had a lot of shall we say, interesting centers at MU
Marquette remains at #17 in ESPN's Jeff Borzello's Final top 25 rankings entering 2024-2025