Dead
Hope no one takes a stab at making a joke
RIP
I thought he did it. I thought his attorneys were better than the prosecutors and don't blame the jury for acquitting him.
Adios mf'er, hey?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2024, 09:41:22 AM
Hope no one takes a stab at making a joke
Cancer? That's no way for a man to die.
A parachute not opening ... that's a way to die. Getting caught in the gears of a combine ... having your nuts bit off by a Laplander, that's the way I wanna go.
The white Bronco is off to somewhere.
I hope the family donates his brain to science.
Wat brain, hey?
Quote from: tower912 on April 11, 2024, 09:45:29 AM
RIP
I thought he did it. I thought his attorneys were better than the prosecutors and don't blame the jury for acquitting him.
I think had it happened a few years later, when DNA evidence was more established in the public-eye, he would have been found guilty in short order.
Fair.
He will be happy to know the killer has died.
You know, you (allegedly) kill a couple of people and you get labeled for life.
On a serious note ... maybe the best RB I ever saw, and certainly in the top few. During his prime, he was a rare combination of speed, power, shiftiness and durability. I was a Dolphins fan growing up, and he was on a division rival, but I still loved watching him run.
Hell of an actor, too! Who could forget his star turn as astronaut John Walker in Capricorn One?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2024, 09:41:22 AM
Hope no one takes a stab at making a joke
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Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2024, 10:37:10 AM
You know, you (allegedly) kill a couple of people and you get labeled for life.
On a serious note ... maybe the best RB I ever saw, and certainly in the top few. During his prime, he was a rare combination of speed, power, shiftiness and durability. I was a Dolphins fan growing up, and he was on a division rival, but I still loved watching him run.
Hell of an actor, too! Who could forget his star turn as astronaut John Walker in Capricorn One?
Hoo kares. He was, is, and eternally will be a POS, aina?
May he find out that Hell really does exist........
Probably from the Covid shot
Not an original thought: If the coffin doesn't fit, do we give a sh!t?
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on April 11, 2024, 03:34:49 PM
Not an original thought: If the coffin doesn't fit, do we give a sh!t?
Don't get indignant, the tumor was malignant.
As someone who wasn't around for his football career and the height of his fame, what would the modern equivalent of this be, if it happened today? Maybe someone like Shaq? Just trying to get some perspective on how famous he was and how shocking the murders were when they happened.
I went and re-read the events the night of the murders.
It really is something that he got on a red eye flight to Chicago like two hours after the murders. I know the area around the hotel near O'Hare was searched for the knife/his clothes. Guessing though he dumped them in a garbage can at LAX before that flight.
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on April 11, 2024, 04:06:11 PM
As someone who wasn't around for his football career and the height of his fame, what would the modern equivalent of this be, if it happened today? Maybe someone like Shaq? Just trying to get some perspective on how famous he was and how shocking the murders were when they happened.
Yeah that's a pretty good parallel.
One of the Mannings.
Quote from: Biggie Clausen on April 11, 2024, 04:06:11 PM
As someone who wasn't around for his football career and the height of his fame, what would the modern equivalent of this be, if it happened today? Maybe someone like Shaq? Just trying to get some perspective on how famous he was and how shocking the murders were when they happened.
Yeah, he had the football career and then broadcasting and acting. He wasn't very good at either but his impact went beyond his days on the gridiron.
The Naked Gun movies were pretty popular and his character was such a hapless goof, his image with the general public was harmless jock.
Then he murdered two people. I think the Mannings are bigger but maybe not. Certainly in that realm. Barkley might be a better comp but it's unfair to lump them in with OJ
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2024, 04:29:21 PM
Yeah, he had the football career and then broadcasting and acting. He wasn't very good at either but his impact went beyond his days on the gridiron.
The Naked Gun movies were pretty popular and his character was such a hapless goof, his image with the general public was harmless jock.
Then he murdered two people. I think the Mannings are bigger but maybe not. Certainly in that realm. Barkley might be a better comp but it's unfair to lump them in with OJ
What about Gronk? Perhaps, I'm focusing too much on the hapless goof character.
I disagree on Barkley. He's always been outspoken on issues, unlike OJ. That was part of the shock with OJ. The general public had almost no knowledge of OJ beyond his carefully crafted persona prior to June of 1994.
Quote from: RJax55 on April 11, 2024, 05:10:28 PM
What about Gronk? Perhaps, I'm focusing too much on the hapless goof character.
I disagree on Barkley. He's always been outspoken on issues, unlike OJ. That was part of the shock with OJ. The general public had almost no knowledge of OJ beyond his carefully crafted persona prior to June of 1994.
That's a good point about Barkley. GRONK would be a good comp
Gronk doesn't have nearly the same recognition of OJ.
I think tower's Manning brothers comp is probably the best.
Interesting, thanks. When the trial was happening, I only knew OJ as the guy from The Naked Gun.
This guy was a colossal pos. And a double murderer. Im grateful that 4ever shared his comment. He should have been introduced to darkness 25+ years ago and who gives a F about his football career.
Well, his football career DID exist. And he was a hell of a RB. It's like a discussion that took place a month or two ago about the greatest all-around athletes ever and Jim Brown was mentioned. Yes, he was a POS, but it doesn't mean that it's forbidden to talk about the non-POS part of his life, does it?
OJ was an effen murderer, a complete POS. I'd have spat on him if I was in position to do so. But before that, he was a superstar athlete. We are adult enough to include that in his bio, aren't we?
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2024, 07:30:38 PM
Well, his football career DID exist. And he was a hell of a RB. It's like a discussion that took place a month or two ago about the greatest all-around athletes ever and Jim Brown was mentioned. Yes, he was a POS, but it doesn't mean that it's forbidden to talk about the non-POS part of his life, does it?
OJ was an effen murderer, a complete POS. I'd have spat on him if I was in position to do so. But before that, he was a superstar athlete. We are adult enough to include that in his bio, aren't we?
Or we can erase his bio and stop drooling over the guy? I'd prefer a thread about a cheetah vs Usain Bolt. Ot what Silverbacks would have done to the "Juice" if they played DT.
Quote from: tower912 on April 11, 2024, 09:45:29 AM
RIP
I thought he did it. I thought his attorneys were better than the prosecutors and don't blame the jury for acquitting him.
I watched the trial closely. He was acquitted due to jury nullification. The evidence was overwhelming. "Thinking" he did it? Understating the very obvious.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 11, 2024, 09:57:33 AM
The white Bronco is off to somewhere.
Ah, yes....the blanco bronco, Al Cowlings at the wheel.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 11, 2024, 07:36:14 PM
Or we can erase his bio and stop drooling over the guy?
C'mon, Muggs. Who is "drooling" over OJ? He was one of the most vilified people in America, and deservedly so. He was a world-class athlete, but just about every bio about him leads with his heinous acts.
You make yourself out to be a tough guy who is always talking about who you'd "introduce to darkness." But you aren't tough enough to read a sentence that includes two facts: the guy was a murderer; the guy was a great athlete?
Athlete, shmathlete, who da fook cares. The hero worship is this country is simply twisted, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 11, 2024, 08:01:37 PM
Athlete, shmathlete, who da fook cares. The hero worship is this country is simply twisted, aina?
Boy, have I got a guy for you
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2024, 07:56:36 PM
C'mon, Muggs. Who is "drooling" over OJ? He was one of the most vilified people in America, and deservedly so. He was a world-class athlete, but just about every bio about him leads with his heinous acts.
You make yourself out to be a tough guy who is always talking about who you'd "introduce to darkness." But you aren't tough enough to read a sentence that includes two facts: the guy was a murderer; the guy was a great athlete?
When I looked at CNN earlier today the first 7 stories were about Simpson. Fk that guy. I apologize for snapping at you but we need to get our priorities straight.
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2024, 07:56:36 PM
C'mon, Muggs. Who is "drooling" over OJ? He was one of the most vilified people in America, and deservedly so. He was a world-class athlete, but just about every bio about him leads with his heinous acts.
You make yourself out to be a tough guy who is always talking about who you'd "introduce to darkness." But you aren't tough enough to read a sentence that includes two facts: the guy was a murderer; the guy was a great athlete?
He's just being hyperbolic as usual.
How's the Milwaukee boi Kato doin??
What a pile of excrement Rhoden wrote for espn.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 11, 2024, 08:47:47 PM
What a pile of excrement Rhoden wrote for espn.
Why?
Quote from: Pakuni on April 11, 2024, 08:58:06 PM
Why?
It was a pretty good whitewash. The "did he do it?" "It's still a mystery" is utter bull $hit.
You know gang, that was the best legal job I've ever seen in my life.
The folks that put the defense strategy together -- Johnny Cochran and his team -- were geniuses. Their job was to defend OJ against the State of California. They picked what likely was the only strategy on the planet that was going to keep the Juice out of prison for the rest of life. They attached the evidence handling because attacking the evidence directly was a losing strategy. They went after the relationship between the African-American community and the LAPD because, well, it worked!
If the cops weren't idiots, kept their mouths shut and their hearts open and if Gil Garcetti wasn't the dumbest District Attorney ever elected to public office and Marcia Clark a better counsel, maybe a jury would have acted differently.
Did OJ do it? Based on the evidence, probably. But if I was ever in a legal pickle, I sure as heck would want someone like Johnny Cochran in my corner!!!!
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 11, 2024, 10:07:19 PM
You know gang, that was the best legal job I've ever seen in my life.
The folks that put the defense strategy together -- Johnny Cochran and his team -- were geniuses. Their job was to defend OJ against the State of California. They picked what likely was the only strategy on the planet that was going to keep the Juice out of prison for the rest of life. They attached the evidence handling because attacking the evidence directly was a losing strategy. They went after the relationship between the African-American community and the LAPD because, well, it worked!
If the cops weren't idiots, kept their mouths shut and their hearts open and if Gil Garcetti wasn't the dumbest District Attorney ever elected to public office and Marcia Clark a better counsel, maybe a jury would have acted differently.
Did OJ do it? Based on the evidence, probably. But if I was ever in a legal pickle, I sure as heck would want someone like Johnny Cochran in my corner!!!!
Yeah, he "probably" cut off his wife's head (after physically abusing her for years) and murdered Ron Goldman (just because he was there). There was a trail of their blood from the scene all the way to the Juice's Rockingham home that says so. And a boatload of other evidence. But he could sure tote that pigskin, so there's that.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 11, 2024, 09:57:29 PM
It was a pretty good whitewash. The "did he do it?" "It's still a mystery" is utter bull $hit.
Nowhere in the piece does he write "It's still a mystery."
Be mad, I guess.
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on April 11, 2024, 03:34:49 PM
Not an original thought: If the coffin doesn't fit, do we give a sh!t?
https://www.theonion.com/o-j-simpson-allowed-to-remain-living-after-coffin-does-1851403804 (https://www.theonion.com/o-j-simpson-allowed-to-remain-living-after-coffin-does-1851403804)
I appreciate the nature of Rhoden's article that reflected on his previous interactions with him. Yeah this line wasn't great:
"Was he a murderer? Did he do it? Did he not do it? The answers are secrets that will be buried with the Juice."
But all in all, I thought it was fine. Certainly nothing to get mad about.
But this on the other hand...
https://x.com/HeismanTrophy/status/1778441403594366996
No one was looking for a statement from you. I have no idea why you decided to make one.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 11, 2024, 10:07:19 PM
You know gang, that was the best legal job I've ever seen in my life.
The folks that put the defense strategy together -- Johnny Cochran and his team -- were geniuses. Their job was to defend OJ against the State of California. They picked what likely was the only strategy on the planet that was going to keep the Juice out of prison for the rest of life. They attached the evidence handling because attacking the evidence directly was a losing strategy. They went after the relationship between the African-American community and the LAPD because, well, it worked!
If the cops weren't idiots, kept their mouths shut and their hearts open and if Gil Garcetti wasn't the dumbest District Attorney ever elected to public office and Marcia Clark a better counsel, maybe a jury would have acted differently.
Did OJ do it? Based on the evidence, probably. But if I was ever in a legal pickle, I sure as heck would want someone like Johnny Cochran in my corner!!!!
We essentially agree.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 11, 2024, 10:07:19 PM
You know gang, that was the best legal job I've ever seen in my life.
The folks that put the defense strategy together -- Johnny Cochran and his team -- were geniuses. Their job was to defend OJ against the State of California. They picked what likely was the only strategy on the planet that was going to keep the Juice out of prison for the rest of life. They attached the evidence handling because attacking the evidence directly was a losing strategy. They went after the relationship between the African-American community and the LAPD because, well, it worked!
If the cops weren't idiots, kept their mouths shut and their hearts open and if Gil Garcetti wasn't the dumbest District Attorney ever elected to public office and Marcia Clark a better counsel, maybe a jury would have acted differently.
Did OJ do it? Based on the evidence, probably. But if I was ever in a legal pickle, I sure as heck would want someone like Johnny Cochran in my corner!!!!
It was as much prosecutorial incompetence and jury nullification as it was great legal defense.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 11, 2024, 10:31:13 PM
Nowhere in the piece does he write "It's still a mystery."
Be mad, I guess.
"Was he a murderer? Did he do it? Did he not do it? The answers are SECRETS that will be buried with the Juice"
So to Rhoden it's still very much a mystery.
Everyone has things that make them uncomfortable or even a little angry. For me, an obit whitewashing the actions of a brutal murderer qualifies. For you, it's someone opining that people who transition from male to female should be disqualified from competing in women's athletics. For others here, it's golfers joining the LIV tour or Scott Drew recruiting violations. Whatever.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 12, 2024, 08:25:27 AM
"Was he a murderer? Did he do it? Did he not do it? The answers are SECRETS that will be buried with the Juice"
So to Rhoden it's still very much a mystery.
Everyone has things that make them uncomfortable or even a little angry. For me, an obit whitewashing the actions of a brutal murderer qualifies. For you, it's someone opining that people who transition from male to female should be disqualified from competing in women's athletics. For others here, it's golfers joining the LIV tour or Scott Drew recruiting violations. Whatever.
It makes me angry.
O.J. became a proxy for the racial problems in this country and that was unfair to his victims.
While a good legal strategy by his defense team, it was a disgrace that it reflected the racial injustices in the legal system. Of all the cases we could use to highlight these injustices, it was this case used.
There is no mystery and those still claiming it are doing a disservice to the victims of this heinous crime. They're also doing a disservice to real victims of racial disparity in criminal proceedings.
A victory for OJ didn't change any of these realities and it was a shame it was celebrated as if it did or would change anything
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2024, 08:54:04 AM
It makes me angry.
O.J. became a proxy for the racial problems in this country and that was unfair to his victims.
While a good legal strategy by his defense team, it was a disgrace that it reflected the racial injustices in the legal system. Of all the cases we could use to highlight these injustices, it was this case used.
There is no mystery and those still claiming it are doing a disservice to the victims of this heinous crime. They're also doing a disservice to real victims of racial disparity in criminal proceedings.
A victory for OJ didn't change any of these realities and it was a shame it was celebrated as if it did or would change anything
You are 100% correct, Rico.
No mystery, OJ was a brutal murderer.l
And the irony of a privileged guy like OJ (white cops who idolized him routinely gave him a pass when called to investigate wife beatings) morphing into the poster child for all the black males truly underserved by our legal system was rich. OJ didn't travel in that world - he had nothing but disdain for it.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 12, 2024, 08:11:01 AM
But this on the other hand...
https://x.com/HeismanTrophy/status/1778441403594366996
No one was looking for a statement from you. I have no idea why you decided to make one.
LOL this is fantastic. I, a very smart man, never form an opinion on anything until I hear what the #brands have to say.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 12, 2024, 08:11:01 AM
https://x.com/HeismanTrophy/status/1778441403594366996
No one was looking for a statement from you. I have no idea why you decided to make one.
Well, at least he didn't take money for his family like Reggie Bush. That's where the Heisman draws the line. Not murder I guess.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 12, 2024, 09:20:20 AM
You are 100% correct, Rico.
No mystery, OJ was a brutal murderer.l
And the irony of a privileged guy like OJ (white cops who idolized him routinely gave him a pass when called to investigate wife beatings) morphing into the poster child for all the black males truly underserved by our legal system was rich. OJ didn't travel in that world - he had nothing but disdain for it.
Yeah, it was pretty gross
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 12, 2024, 08:25:27 AM
"Was he a murderer? Did he do it? Did he not do it? The answers are SECRETS that will be buried with the Juice"
So to Rhoden it's still very much a mystery.
Everyone has things that make them uncomfortable or even a little angry. For me, an obit whitewashing the actions of a brutal murderer qualifies. For you, it's someone opining that people who transition from male to female should be disqualified from competing in women's athletics. For others here, it's golfers joining the LIV tour or Scott Drew recruiting violations. Whatever.
When did you become so disingenuous? Please point out when I've been angry over "someone opining people who transition from male to female should be disqualified from competing in women's athletics."
Anyhow, you're free to feel however you feel about Rhoden's piece. But don't misstate what he wrote and then get upset when someone points it out.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2024, 08:54:04 AM
It makes me angry.
O.J. became a proxy for the racial problems in this country and that was unfair to his victims.
While a good legal strategy by his defense team, it was a disgrace that it reflected the racial injustices in the legal system. Of all the cases we could use to highlight these injustices, it was this case used.
There is no mystery and those still claiming it are doing a disservice to the victims of this heinous crime. They're also doing a disservice to real victims of racial disparity in criminal proceedings.
A victory for OJ didn't change any of these realities and it was a shame it was celebrated as if it did or would change anything
One of the difficulties of the OJ trial was we turned it into a morality play governing the relationship between African-Americans and Caucasians in Los Angeles. If OJ won, it supposedly was a win for African-Americans against "the system." If he lost, oppression reigned.
Nothing could be further from truth.
Attorney Cochran used race and the relationship between the Los Angeles Police and the African-American community to instill reasonable doubt in the minds of jurors. As I said before, Cochran was outstanding at what he did and was able to free OJ. The only persons who won in the trial were OJ -- and probably Cochran, F. Lee Bailey, the Kardashians and any other lawyer who represented the Juice.
The African-American community didn't win. Their suffering and their abuse at the hands of a barbaric police department was exploited by Cochran. Their lives didn't get any better because of the visibility from the OJ trial. South Central LA is still a problem and that's not going to change.
We all suffered from this trial because we were exposed to the Kardashians. OJ should burn in hell for that alone!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2024, 08:54:04 AM
It makes me angry.
O.J. became a proxy for the racial problems in this country and that was unfair to his victims.
While a good legal strategy by his defense team, it was a disgrace that it reflected the racial injustices in the legal system. Of all the cases we could use to highlight these injustices, it was this case used.
There is no mystery and those still claiming it are doing a disservice to the victims of this heinous crime. They're also doing a disservice to real victims of racial disparity in criminal proceedings.
A victory for OJ didn't change any of these realities and it was a shame it was celebrated as if it did or would change anything
There were a number of videos I saw online yesterday of huge crowds of African Americans in ballrooms/theaters watching the verdict and exploding in celebration normally reserved for reaction shots of game winning championship celebrations. Just wild to watch in retrospect.
And the pathetic thing about it was, as others have mentioned, OJ had long since distanced himself from the black community by any number of preferences and stances
Quote from: JWags85 on April 12, 2024, 10:40:23 AM
There were a number of videos I saw online yesterday of huge crowds of African Americans in ballrooms/theaters watching the verdict and exploding in celebration normally reserved for reaction shots of game winning championship celebrations. Just wild to watch in retrospect.
And the pathetic thing about it was, as others have mentioned, OJ had long since distanced himself from the black community by any number of preferences and stances
The real lesson wasn't that a Black man could beat the system, but that wealthy people can beat the system.
Quote from: JWags85 on April 12, 2024, 10:40:23 AM
There were a number of videos I saw online yesterday of huge crowds of African Americans in ballrooms/theaters watching the verdict and exploding in celebration normally reserved for reaction shots of game winning championship celebrations. Just wild to watch in retrospect.
And the pathetic thing about it was, as others have mentioned, OJ had long since distanced himself from the black community by any number of preferences and stances
Just remember this was just a couple of years after the Rodney King incident and riots - and in the same metro area.
IMO you can't separate the reactions to this verdict from the ongoing resentment of the LA police.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 12, 2024, 10:48:02 AM
Just remember this was just a couple of years after the Rodney King incident and riots - and in the same metro area.
IMO you can't separate the reactions to this verdict from the ongoing resentment of the LA police.
There is so much nuance to the reaction to the verdict. This is correct as is the disappointment of the verdict.
It's an incredible representation of America and I'm not sure we learned anything
As someone who was 5 years old when the trial happened, the ESPN doc was fascinating just to learn about everything surrounding that case.
What may be glossed over a bit here is that the LA police department and district attorney's office handled this case in a way that opened the door for OJ to beat the system, and it reflected on the biggest stage possible the systemic problems within those agencies that led to actual unfair treatment and unequal justice for those who couldn't afford Johnnie Cochran. People didn't see OJ as a Black guy beating the system. They also saw him as a Black guy the system would work against, despite his wealth and fame.
I don't doubt that OJ was guilty, but those looking for reasonable doubt - and the jurors clearly were - had it teed up for them by the cops and prosecutors ... the failure to collect and preserve evidence from the scene, the improper storage of evidence, errors with the autopsies, making Mark Fuhrman a key witness, the glove catastrophe, etc.
To suggest this was simply jurors nullifying a slam-dunk case ignores how mishandled the whole thing was.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 12, 2024, 11:10:47 AM
What may be glossed over a bit here is that the LA police department and district attorney's office handled this case in a way that opened the door for OJ to beat the system, and it reflected on the biggest stage possible the systemic problems within those agencies that led to actual unfair treatment and unequal justice for those who couldn't afford Johnnie Cochran. People didn't see OJ as a Black guy beating the system. They also saw him as a Black guy the system would work against, despite his wealth and fame.
I don't doubt that OJ was guilty, but those looking for reasonable doubt - and the jurors clearly were - had it teed up for them by the cops and prosecutors ... the failure to collect and preserve evidence from the scene, the improper storage of evidence, errors with the autopsies, making Mark Fuhrman a key witness, the glove catastrophe, etc.
To suggest this was simply jurors nullifying a slam-dunk case ignores how mishandled the whole thing was.
This is what I was getting at, but a much better explanation.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 12, 2024, 11:10:47 AM
What may be glossed over a bit here is that the LA police department and district attorney's office handled this case in a way that opened the door for OJ to beat the system, and it reflected on the biggest stage possible the systemic problems within those agencies that led to actual unfair treatment and unequal justice for those who couldn't afford Johnnie Cochran. People didn't see OJ as a Black guy beating the system. They also saw him as a Black guy the system would work against, despite his wealth and fame.
I don't doubt that OJ was guilty, but those looking for reasonable doubt - and the jurors clearly were - had it teed up for them by the cops and prosecutors ... the failure to collect and preserve evidence from the scene, the improper storage of evidence, errors with the autopsies, making Mark Fuhrman a key witness, the glove catastrophe, etc.
To suggest this was simply jurors nullifying a slam-dunk case ignores how mishandled the whole thing was.
All this. That's why there is so much nuance here.
It's a quintessential American moment.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2024, 08:54:04 AM
It makes me angry.
O.J. became a proxy for the racial problems in this country and that was unfair to his victims.
While a good legal strategy by his defense team, it was a disgrace that it reflected the racial injustices in the legal system. Of all the cases we could use to highlight these injustices, it was this case used.
There is no mystery and those still claiming it are doing a disservice to the victims of this heinous crime. They're also doing a disservice to real victims of racial disparity in criminal proceedings.
A victory for OJ didn't change any of these realities and it was a shame it was celebrated as if it did or would change anything
The verdict was nothing more than a slap back to the racist policies of the PD that existed - and still do - in Los Angelis.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2024, 08:54:04 AM
It makes me angry.
O.J. became a proxy for the racial problems in this country and that was unfair to his victims.
While a good legal strategy by his defense team, it was a disgrace that it reflected the racial injustices in the legal system. Of all the cases we could use to highlight these injustices, it was this case used.
There is no mystery and those still claiming it are doing a disservice to the victims of this heinous crime. They're also doing a disservice to real victims of racial disparity in criminal proceedings.
A victory for OJ didn't change any of these realities and it was a shame it was celebrated as if it did or would change anything
Best comment in the thread, Unk. Thanks for posting.
There was, and still is, systemic racism in law enforcement, but Simpson couldn't have been a worse proxy for the situation. I got pissed all over again reading your post.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 12, 2024, 10:42:15 AM
The real lesson wasn't that a Black man could beat the system, but that wealthy people can beat the system.
Yep. I'm always stunned when a rich person actually gets convicted of something, no matter how heinous the crimes might be.
Quote from: JWags85 on April 12, 2024, 10:40:23 AM
And the pathetic thing about it was, as others have mentioned, OJ had long since distanced himself from the black community by any number of preferences and stances
As OJ said, Brother Wags"
"I'm not Black, I'm OJ!!"
Quote from: Pakuni on April 12, 2024, 09:43:26 AM
Anyhow, you're free to feel however you feel about Rhoden's piece. But don't misstate what he wrote and then get upset when someone points it out.
As are you. He may not have used the exact word "mystery" but he absolutely said it in so many words. Defending it or denying it is pedantic, disingenuous or both.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 11, 2024, 09:47:00 AM
Adios mf'er, hey?
Relax, we aren't talking about Palestinian infants
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 12, 2024, 10:42:15 AM
The real lesson wasn't that a Black man could beat the system, but that wealthy people can beat the system.
Dumbest take on the whole thing I've ever read.
Quote from: Autoengineer on April 12, 2024, 06:10:50 PM
Dumbest take on the whole thing I've ever read.
It's really not, though.
Quote from: Autoengineer on April 12, 2024, 06:10:50 PM
Dumbest take on the whole thing I've ever read.
Oh, it's you again. Hi.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 12, 2024, 07:27:15 PM
Oh, it's you again. Hi.
Did you steal his girl or something?
Man, Norm MacDonald was funny as f%ck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SSVIg4Noqc
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 12, 2024, 10:21:28 PM
Did you steal his girl or something?
I have no idea, but like half of his posting history is following me around. It's kinda funny tbh.
Also, there's like a 75% chance it is one of my friends trolling me.
At least that'd be funny instead of sad.
Quote from: MU82 on April 12, 2024, 10:34:05 PM
Man, Norm MacDonald was funny as f%ck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SSVIg4Noqc
My favorite comedian - ever.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 13, 2024, 09:00:28 AM
My favorite comedian - ever.
A few of 'em were fall-down-laughing stuff. Even the groaners made me laugh, though.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 12, 2024, 10:16:29 AM
One of the difficulties of the OJ trial was we turned it into a morality play governing the relationship between African-Americans and Caucasians in Los Angeles. If OJ won, it supposedly was a win for African-Americans against "the system." If he lost, oppression reigned.
Nothing could be further from truth.
Attorney Cochran used race and the relationship between the Los Angeles Police and the African-American community to instill reasonable doubt in the minds of jurors. As I said before, Cochran was outstanding at what he did and was able to free OJ. The only persons who won in the trial were OJ -- and probably Cochran, F. Lee Bailey, the Kardashians and any other lawyer who represented the Juice.
The African-American community didn't win. Their suffering and their abuse at the hands of a barbaric police department was exploited by Cochran. Their lives didn't get any better because of the visibility from the OJ trial. South Central LA is still a problem and that's not going to change.
We all suffered from this trial because we were exposed to the Kardashians. OJ should burn in hell for that alone!
Explained here. It's the Bills fault:
https://x.com/eriklambert1/status/881267332735258626?s=46&t=wj-kQtLCLPNb9xDTKbHRvQ
Quote from: Pakuni on April 12, 2024, 11:10:47 AM
What may be glossed over a bit here is that the LA police department and district attorney's office handled this case in a way that opened the door for OJ to beat the system, and it reflected on the biggest stage possible the systemic problems within those agencies that led to actual unfair treatment and unequal justice for those who couldn't afford Johnnie Cochran. People didn't see OJ as a Black guy beating the system. They also saw him as a Black guy the system would work against, despite his wealth and fame.
I don't doubt that OJ was guilty, but those looking for reasonable doubt - and the jurors clearly were - had it teed up for them by the cops and prosecutors ... the failure to collect and preserve evidence from the scene, the improper storage of evidence, errors with the autopsies, making Mark Fuhrman a key witness, the glove catastrophe, etc.
To suggest this was simply jurors nullifying a slam-dunk case ignores how mishandled the whole thing was.
Heard a great quote after the trial. It just goes to show what happens when the LAPD tries to frame a guilty man.
Back in the day I experienced DWB at the hands of the LAPD. An African-American friend of mine was driving when we got pulled over in his BMW. I was in a suit. He was dressed in T-shirt and jeans. They separated us. The policeman told me it's OK you're safe now. You can tell us what happened. They thought I was carjacked because I was dressed, nicer, and white in the upscale car.
Quote from: MU82 on April 12, 2024, 10:34:05 PM
Man, Norm MacDonald was funny as f%ck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SSVIg4Noqc
I love the Meadows skit after the verdict.
https://youtu.be/M1mAfCNbf4I?si=-5pduPkIXeW1JFGJ
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 13, 2024, 03:13:54 PM
I love the Meadows skit after the verdict.
https://youtu.be/M1mAfCNbf4I?si=-5pduPkIXeW1JFGJ
Forgot about that one - funny.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 13, 2024, 09:00:28 AM
My favorite comedian - ever.
The best episodes of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee are:
1. Eddie Murphy
2. Norm
You can find them on YouTube if you haven't seen them.