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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2024, 03:47:21 PM

Title: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2024, 03:47:21 PM
We'll play who we play and should beat either team, but as we saw today we can't assume that.

Based on matchup, what's the preference?

According to KenPom, Colorado has a much better defense.  I know FL lost one of their best big guys. 

For those who have watched more of both teams than me, any preference? 

Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: mreezybreezy on March 22, 2024, 03:50:16 PM
Any idea when game times are announced for the second round?
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2024, 03:51:08 PM
Quote from: mreezybreezy on March 22, 2024, 03:50:16 PM
Any idea when game times are announced for the second round?

After all the games are done today. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: The Sultan on March 22, 2024, 03:55:11 PM
Stetson
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 22, 2024, 03:56:12 PM
Both Florida and Colorado like to play at our tempo. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: mreezybreezy on March 22, 2024, 03:59:54 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2024, 03:51:08 PM
After all the game are done today.

Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: GB Warrior on March 22, 2024, 04:02:00 PM
Florida. Both are good offensively, but Florida much more vulnerable defensively.

Florida's OR% is very good bit losing Handlogten levels the playing field quite a bit there.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2024, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 22, 2024, 03:56:12 PM
Both Florida and Colorado like to play at our tempo.

That's nice. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 22, 2024, 04:16:13 PM
Was gonna say Colorado.  If the big guys is hurt maybe UF?
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2024, 04:16:30 PM
Marquette would turn over Colorado 20 times
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MUMountin on March 22, 2024, 04:16:54 PM
Colorado, because it is where I got my second degree and now teach there (but, to be clear, I'll still be cheering for MU on Sunday!). 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: HowardsWorld on March 22, 2024, 04:17:04 PM
Both teams allergic to defense
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: mugrad_89 on March 22, 2024, 04:17:43 PM
If we bring our second half effort and execution on Sunday, it won't matter.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Carl on March 22, 2024, 04:19:41 PM
For me it's Florida. Give me the team who's best rebounder just broke him leg. Haven't had time to figure out new rotations/minutes
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 22, 2024, 04:24:50 PM
Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 22, 2024, 04:17:04 PM
Both teams allergic to defense

This has been a shootout Howard.  The defense hasn't been great but both teams have made shots.  I think they said Florida averages 86ppg. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 22, 2024, 04:36:08 PM
Florida is the kind of long athletic team that has given us problems. After 1st half I'm leaning the Buffs.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 22, 2024, 04:48:57 PM
Both teams shooting well. Colorado has been hot of late. I'm leaning Florida
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 22, 2024, 04:50:32 PM
Are these teams this good on offense or do they just not play defense?
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Mu8891 on March 22, 2024, 04:57:07 PM
Very little defense
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2024, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 22, 2024, 04:50:32 PM
Are these teams this good on offense or do they just not play defense?

Colorado is 34th in AdjustedD, Florida 86th.  Colorado is 98.2, Marquette is 95.7
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: DienerTime34 on March 22, 2024, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 22, 2024, 04:36:08 PM
Florida is the kind of long athletic team that has given us problems. After 1st half I'm leaning the Buffs.

Huh, I'm watching and the Buffs seem like the longer team to me.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: GB Warrior on March 22, 2024, 04:59:54 PM
Where can we get advanced stats in terms of how teams guard the PnR?

Just based on the eye test, MU would thrive putting Lampkin in PnR actions away from the basket. Slow as molasses
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 22, 2024, 05:00:09 PM
Both these teams are shooting the lights out.  Worried about both. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 22, 2024, 05:02:43 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 22, 2024, 05:00:09 PM
Both these teams are shooting the lights out.  Worried about both.

They've been really good on the offensive end. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2024, 05:08:02 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 22, 2024, 05:02:43 PM
They've been really good on the offensive end.

They do a lot of cutting on offense that I think our guys will feast on defensively.  Stevie could have a big game.  They'll get buckets but I think we could score 20-30 off turns
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MU82 on March 22, 2024, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 22, 2024, 04:17:43 PM
If we bring our second half effort and execution on Sunday, it won't matter.

This.

But if given the choice, I'd take Colorado. Even without the one big, Florida really attacks the offensive boards. Put Stevie on Simpson, try not to leave Da Silva open and otherwise play straight up on D.

Plus Colorado would be playing their third game since Wednesday.

Either team will struggle to defend us if we're playing well at all offensively.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: HowardsWorld on March 22, 2024, 05:11:11 PM
Ill take Colorado just because they are a lower seed.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: PJDunn on March 22, 2024, 05:20:53 PM
Colorado, their coach will need a nap on Sunday. Plus this year's Pac 12 was weaker than the Missouri Valley.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MuMark on March 22, 2024, 05:27:38 PM
They both look good today
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 22, 2024, 05:27:54 PM
Colorado has been incredible in this game.  Hard to believe they needed to get to P-12 Final make the tournament. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 22, 2024, 05:28:48 PM
Quote from: PJDunn on March 22, 2024, 05:20:53 PM
Colorado, their coach will need a nap on Sunday. Plus this year's Pac 12 was weaker than the Missouri Valley.

But they haven't lost in the NCAA tournament. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: The Sultan on March 22, 2024, 05:30:10 PM
Quote from: PJDunn on March 22, 2024, 05:20:53 PM
Colorado, their coach will need a nap on Sunday. Plus this year's Pac 12 was weaker than the Missouri Valley.

Pac 12 hasn't lost.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: HowardsWorld on March 22, 2024, 05:34:40 PM
67% 3pt fg for Colorado
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Judge Smails on March 22, 2024, 05:35:25 PM
How tall is Lampkin?
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: HowardsWorld on March 22, 2024, 05:35:37 PM
Florida, Alabama and Kentucky play some of the worst defense in the country.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Judge Smails on March 22, 2024, 05:37:17 PM
Quote from: Judge Smails on March 22, 2024, 05:35:25 PM
How tall is Lampkin?
6'11"
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: warriorfred on March 22, 2024, 05:37:28 PM
Colorado it is.  Hope their legs are tired on Sunday.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: GB Warrior on March 22, 2024, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 22, 2024, 05:34:40 PM
67% 3pt fg for Colorado

Badgers vs MU esque
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: JTJ3 on March 22, 2024, 05:39:42 PM
Colorado will be tough but wow, this Florida defense is a joke.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 22, 2024, 05:52:17 PM
3 point game now .. let's hope it goes into 4OTs.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Tyler COLEk on March 22, 2024, 05:56:06 PM
C'mon OT!
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2024, 05:56:15 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 22, 2024, 05:57:20 PM
Neither team plays a lick of defense--that bodes well for us.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 22, 2024, 05:57:24 PM
That clutch shot was stone cold
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2024, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2024, 05:56:15 PM
Wow

Wow
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MUEng92 on March 22, 2024, 05:58:47 PM
Wow, push off was close to a punch
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2024, 05:58:54 PM
Marquette is rolling Colorado. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: GB Warrior on March 22, 2024, 05:59:00 PM
Was hoping for a 6OT thriller
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 22, 2024, 05:59:52 PM
Wow. 
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 22, 2024, 06:00:07 PM
Three double digit seeds in front of us--it's like a Wisconsin draw
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Tyler COLEk on March 22, 2024, 06:01:30 PM
In the department of over-analysis, I'd probably rather face the team that barely held off a comeback than one who completed a comeback.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2024, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on March 22, 2024, 06:01:30 PM
In the department of over-analysis, I'd probably rather face the team that barely held off a comeback than one who completed a comeback.

Marquette is rolling Colorado.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2024, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 22, 2024, 06:00:07 PM
Three double digit seeds in front of us--it's like a Wisconsin draw

Got the nerves out of the way.  Oso will play much better.  Let's go.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: HowardsWorld on March 22, 2024, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 22, 2024, 06:00:07 PM
Three double digit seeds in front of us--it's like a Wisconsin draw

Im positive we will meet Wisconsin in the Elite 8.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Goose on March 22, 2024, 06:04:40 PM
Fxxk Colorado!! MU is a better team. One step at a time.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 22, 2024, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 22, 2024, 06:04:40 PM
Fxxk Colorado!! MU is a better team. One step at a time.

LFG!!!
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Carl on March 22, 2024, 06:13:22 PM
Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 22, 2024, 06:03:41 PM
Im positive we will meet Wisconsin in the Elite 8.

Misspelled Nebraska
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Pakuni on March 22, 2024, 06:17:09 PM
MU's path to the Elite 8 is a 15 seed, 10 seed and 11/14 seed.
Really no excuses.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Dickthedribbler on March 22, 2024, 06:20:45 PM
I'm happy to face a Colorado team that will be playing their 3rd game in 5 days.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: junglecat022 on March 22, 2024, 06:25:26 PM
Colorado has perimeter players listed at 6'5, 6'7, 6'8, 6'8, 6'9. The 6'9 guy, da Silva, shoots 38% from 3, 16ppg.  Don't think we've seen that type of size since UCLA or Kansas.  Big wings like Kadary Richmond, AJ Storr, Scheierman have given us some problems, should be interesting.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2024, 06:26:07 PM
Quote from: junglecat022 on March 22, 2024, 06:25:26 PM
Colorado has perimeter players listed at 6'5, 6'7, 6'8, 6'8, 6'9. The 6'9 guy, da Silva shoots almost 38% from 3, 16ppg.  Don't think we've seen that type of size since UCLA or Kansas.  Big wings like Kadary Richmond, AJ Storr, Scheierman have given us some problems, should be interesting.

Easy W

Next
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: nyg on March 22, 2024, 06:30:26 PM
Quote from: junglecat022 on March 22, 2024, 06:25:26 PM
Colorado has perimeter players listed at 6'5, 6'7, 6'8, 6'8, 6'9. The 6'9 guy, da Silva, shoots almost 38% from 3, 16ppg.  Don't think we've seen that type of size since UCLA or Kansas.  Big wings like Kadary Richmond, AJ Storr, Scheierman have given us some problems, should be interesting.

Good, MU a lot quicker and blow by them, but probably a three point contest and try to limit their offensive boards.

Only thing I don't want to watch is Lampkin  against Gold. Hope Ben is practicing falling backwards because that Lampkin is a big butt backerupper
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: TrojanWarrior on March 22, 2024, 06:52:21 PM
Common opponent for Colorado is UCLA, they lost in Westwood.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MuMark on March 22, 2024, 07:20:35 PM
Colorado is 21 in Ken Pom......closer to a 5 seed in quality than the 10 seed the committee gave them.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2024, 07:21:40 PM
Quote from: MuMark on March 22, 2024, 07:20:35 PM
Colorado is 21 in Ken Pom......closer to a 5 seed in quality than the 10 seed the committee gave them.

Marquette is rolling Colorado.  Stevie has 7 steals
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: The Sultan on March 22, 2024, 07:22:11 PM
Anybody. Anywhere.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Goose on March 22, 2024, 07:27:52 PM
Fluff

We agree again. Bring 'em on!!!
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: MurphysTillClose on March 22, 2024, 07:40:27 PM
Quote from: MuMark on March 22, 2024, 07:20:35 PM
Colorado is 21 in Ken Pom......closer to a 5 seed in quality than the 10 seed the committee gave them.

They don't play a lick of defense.
Title: Re: Florida or Colorado?
Post by: Porky's Butthole on March 22, 2024, 07:45:08 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2024, 06:17:09 PM
MU's path to the Elite 8 is a 15 seed, 10 seed and 11/14 seed.
Really no excuses.

Porky concurs, despite MU Mark's astute comment about their relatively low seeding and first four status, which Porky also concurs with.  Things are just much more competitive these days and the difference in quality between a 12/5 isn't significant in most cases.  Look at Oakland/Yale.  Anyone can beat anyone.  Let's GO!
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