Jolpin is a turnover machine. Had nice game.
Hope we don't have to depend on Gold for outside shooting. 1-8.
Ross invisible
Kolek gets hurt every year at end of season. Maybe he gets worn down.
They had too many open shots. We didn't fight thru.
Quote from: Don_Kojis on March 02, 2024, 03:38:23 PM
Jolpin is a turnover machine. Had nice game.
Hope we don't have to depend on Gold for outside shooting. 1-8.
Ross invisible
Kolek gets hurt every year at end of season. Maybe he gets worn down.
They had too many open shots. We didn't fight thru.
well aren't you just a ray of sunshine.
Quote from: Don_Kojis on March 02, 2024, 03:38:23 PM
Jolpin is a turnover machine. Had nice game.
Hope we don't have to depend on Gold for outside shooting. 1-8.
Ross invisible
Kolek gets hurt every year at end of season. Maybe he gets worn down.
They had too many open shots. We didn't fight thru.
Were you crying when you clicked send on this?
A game like this is perfect for bringing to light the sad sacks who use sports as another outlet for feeling angry and sad. How could you possibly watch that game and come out of it upset?
I think Creighton could have a list of things they could improve on too. I'm sure their coach will find things to work on.
But for most of this game, MU players took hold of their responsibility without the two leaders they normally rely on.
So the positives far outweigh the negatives and I feel great about the next few weeks although I must admit the injury sickness thing doesn't bode well for UCONN.
Quote from: Don_Kojis on March 02, 2024, 03:38:23 PM
Kolek gets hurt every year at end of season. Maybe he gets worn down.
He injured his thumb last year when it got hooked on another player's jersey. That's not exactly a training or endurance issue.
Quote from: Don_Kojis on March 02, 2024, 03:38:23 PM
Jolpin is a turnover machine. Had nice game.
Hope we don't have to depend on Gold for outside shooting. 1-8.
Ross invisible
Kolek gets hurt every year at end of season. Maybe he gets worn down.
They had too many open shots. We didn't fight thru.
You're an idiot
Troll
Quote from: warriorchick on March 02, 2024, 03:46:26 PM
He injured his thumb last year when it got hooked on another player's jersey. That's not exactly a training or endurance issue.
Uhhg! Stoopid facts.
Can't we just agree TK is dumb and fragil? ::)
Given the circumstances, I thought the guys did very well today. With three minutes left, they still had a legitimate chance but just ran out of gas. I give them very high marks for effort and determination. Stevie just played his ass off, and I thought Zaide Lowery did well. Ben had his hands full but held up pretty well considering he is not used to playing that long at a stretch and must have been exhausted. Nothing to be ashamed of at all.
Quote from: Don_Kojis on March 02, 2024, 03:38:23 PM
Jolpin is a turnover machine. Had nice game.
Hope we don't have to depend on Gold for outside shooting. 1-8.
Ross invisible
Kolek gets hurt every year at end of season. Maybe he gets worn down.
They had too many open shots. We didn't fight thru.
Wut? You don't deserve this team.
I wonder if the original post is trolling, I'm not good at recognizing that sometimes.
Don
You forgot to mention that MU and Shaka can't win in the tournament. Very uplifting post and hope you are another disappointed "fan" in five weeks.
In 2024, Don Kojis would be a plumber.
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on March 02, 2024, 03:57:01 PM
I wonder if the original post is trolling, I'm not good at recognizing that sometimes.
Take a look at his post history. Some options include:
-Troll
-Clueless
-Sad sack
I actually don't think he's a troll.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 02, 2024, 04:01:02 PM
Take a look at his post history. Some options include:
-Troll
-Clueless
-Sad sack
I actually don't think he's a troll.
Agree with #2 and #3, and with your conclusion. He's just one of Scoop's Eeyores, but more clueless than most.
Quote from: MurphysTillClose on March 02, 2024, 03:59:33 PM
In 2024, Don Kojis would be a plumber.
What do you mean by this?
They fought hard. Tough game even with TK and Oso. Valuable learning opportunities for the young guys. Let's see where they go from here.
Don Kojis is a negative nancy. Didn't have a good post.
Hope we don't have to depend on Don Kojis for some exhilarating analysis.
Don Kojis is now invisible to me. Love the ignore button.
Don Kojis comes out of the woodwork only after losses. Maybe he can only stomach crawling out of his hole after MU losses.
Don Kojis, so many opportunities to post something of substance. Didn't fight thru it.
I really hope you are Don Kojis, you are his son or your 10 bc otherwise using another man's full name exclusively as your handle is really pathetic.
Quote from: Don_Kojis on March 02, 2024, 03:38:23 PM
Jolpin is a turnover machine. Had nice game.
Hope we don't have to depend on Gold for outside shooting. 1-8.
Ross invisible
Kolek gets hurt every year at end of season. Maybe he gets worn down.
They had too many open shots. We didn't fight thru.
GolllldBrick
Willie
I think it would have more impact if you went with multiple o's vs the l's. I think you are on to something and want you to get all the props you deserve.
Quote from: MU1in77 on March 02, 2024, 04:08:17 PM
What do you mean by this?
Username of OP talking crap about the current roster's performance today when said OP is named after an individual who wouldn't sniff D1 hoops in the modern day.
Quote from: MurphysTillClose on March 02, 2024, 04:35:25 PM
Username of OP talking crap about the current roster's performance today when said OP is named after an individual who wouldn't sniff D1 hoops in the modern day.
Oh I definitely don't know about that. He was an NBA all star.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 02, 2024, 04:32:02 PM
GolllldBrick
Think about the money Ben will make playing professionally and knowing Dung Willie will be battling the English language
Quote from: Goose on March 02, 2024, 04:34:23 PM
Willie
I think it would have more impact if you went with multiple o's vs the l's. I think you are on to something and want you to get all the props you deserve.
Needs more 'k's at the end as well, Goose.
Quote from: Don_Kojis on March 02, 2024, 03:38:23 PM
Jolpin is a turnover machine. Had nice game.
Hope we don't have to depend on Gold for outside shooting. 1-8.
Ross invisible
Kolek gets hurt every year at end of season. Maybe he gets worn down.
They had too many open shots. We didn't fight thru.
About the analysis I'd expect from a dead guy who played in the 60s.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 02, 2024, 04:37:53 PM
Needs more 'k's at the end as well, Goose.
If a first grade class has 30 students and Dung Willie was in a spelling bee with them, what place would he take? Could he break top-20?
Quote from: The Lens on March 02, 2024, 04:11:33 PM
I really hope you are Don Kojis, you are his son or your 10 bc otherwise using another man's full name exclusively as your handle is really pathetic.
The real Don Kojis has left us
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 02, 2024, 04:37:03 PM
Oh I definitely don't know about that. He was an NBA all star.
'68 and '69 all-star. That's sick.
Point stands that a dude with these takes on today's roster/game who stan's a player from the 60's is laughable. Poster's a dope.
Yes he's a dope. And I doubt Kojis would be an NBA player today much less an all star. But I don't know why he couldn't be a decent D1 player now.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 02, 2024, 04:46:14 PM
If a first grade class has 30 students and Dung Willie was in a spelling bee with them, what place would he take? Could he break top-20?
Maybe top-25.
Also, until I have proof otherwise, this is how is picture Willie:
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/84Bwgh5-kwgAAAAC/groundskeeper-willie.gif)
Quote from: Goose on March 02, 2024, 04:34:23 PM
Willie
I think it would have more impact if you went with multiple o's vs the l's. I think you are on to something and want you to get all the props you deserve.
I know I am on to something and think I will continue this way until the guy starts making some 3s consistently, which many here keep saying he can do. Hope they are right. Just havent seen it yet. He needs to keep jacking them though.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 02, 2024, 04:32:02 PM
GolllldBrick
I really believe he'll become a good and consistent shooter. His mechanics are fine. He's just not putting it up with much confidence right now.
Also great to see Zaide step up and bury a couple, plus some solid defense and hustle.
Ben is a shooter and he needs to shoot every chance he gets. While 1-8 today, he passed up several good looks because it looked like he lacked confidence. His shooting hurt the team today and that is life. I hope he gets 8 great looks against UConn.
He didn't force it. He played 37 minutes. Previous high of 26. To my eyes, he knew he didn't have the legs to shoot 3s late in the game. Yeah, he was 1-8 from 3. Still played a helluva game.
This was a Herculean effort today by our guys. Very proud if every one if them for the effort and determination. Unreal. We are a very good team. Go Marquette!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 02, 2024, 03:47:21 PM
You're an idiot
Ah, give him a break- he's been dead for over three years and still manages to never leave Scoop. That's gotta count for something
I knew this would be a stoopid thread and I was right. There's only one post game thread and that's the one Tower starts. All others are Chinese Rolexes.
Lol. Tower is an idiot.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 02, 2024, 07:04:29 PM
I really believe he'll become a good and consistent shooter. His mechanics are fine. He's just not putting it up with much confidence right now.
Also great to see Zaide step up and bury a couple, plus some solid defense and hustle.
Agree, his shot looks too good to be as inconsistent as he is. Have to believe it, and a little more arc, will come at some point.
On my way back from Omaha. What an effort from our team. I repeatedly overheard comments from those seated around me - 'Man, this team plays hard.' 'Those guys never give up on a loose ball or rebound.' 'That team refuses to let themselves get screened.' 'Their defense is constant energy, like their coach.'
I did hear one one guy in the bathroom after the game, say, 'i hope Kolek isnt injured too badly.' And, some meathead replied 'That's NOT why we won. In his next breath he said, 'I heard they were missing another guy, too. But, thats NOT why we won!' I just smiled and thought what a $hitshow Creighton would be without Schiermann and Alexander.
Fun game . Get healthy for the postseason fellas!
Quote from: Goose on March 02, 2024, 07:45:53 PM
Ben is a shooter and he needs to shoot every chance he gets. While 1-8 today, he passed up several good looks because it looked like he lacked confidence. His shooting hurt the team today and that is life. I hope he gets 8 great looks against UConn.
Goose, work with me here. Per Rico and others i'm a moron so definitely need some help understanding your suggestion for BG. Are you saying Shaka needs to go with a shoot to get hot shoot to stay hot strategy? Ben's a shooter, of course, so yes, shooters need to shoot, I'll agree. It's just that his 3-ball % is only better than that of Stevie, Lowery and Norman. Shooting for heat the right play?
the real don kojis is rolling in his grave asking this numbskull to quit soiling his name. it's very revealing donny didn't come back to rebut anything that was said. say goodnight dick
i know it's not easy to accept anything short of victory, BUT this team fought hard and should be commended for it's efforts. they had no business being in this game for 30-35 minutes as they were. great reflections on our coach and players. if we weren't so gassed by the end, I really believed we had a chance to pull off a nice little upset
Viper
This offense was s built around getting open looks from three and the guys firing it up. Every guy needs to pull the trigger without hesitation when they get the pull. Ben hesitated or passed on a couple because he lost his confidence yesterday.
If the shot is there, which it will be for Ben until he shots with more consistency, he needs to pull the trigger on the shot. A year ago guys were cringing with Stevie was firing and missing and same going on with Ben right now. Big difference is Ben is a shooter and Stevie was not.
I have no idea if Ben shoots his way to more consistency or not, but I am sure he needs to keep shooting. If he starts hitting the options on offense become even bigger because they will open up the paint for others.
Quote from: tower912 on March 02, 2024, 07:51:07 PM
He didn't have the legs to shoot 3s late in the game. Still played a helluva game.
Actually, a buddy I was watching with opined that Ben doesn't use his legs much on his shot - and he was talking about this in the first half.
So
I started watching for that and I think he's right.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 03, 2024, 03:58:13 AM
the real don kojis is rolling in his grave asking this numbskull to quit soiling his name. it's very revealing donny didn't come back to rebut anything that was said. say goodnight dick
i know it's not easy to accept anything short of victory, BUT this team fought hard and should be commended for it's efforts. they had no business being in this game for 30-35 minutes as they were. great reflections on our coach and players. if we weren't so gassed by the end, I really believed we had a chance to pull off a nice little upset
Now I know more than half this team would cook Kojis
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 03, 2024, 06:03:43 AM
Actually, a buddy I was watching with opined that Ben doesn't use his legs much on his shot - and he was talking about this in the first half.
So
I started watching for that and I think he's right.
He's 6'11. Guys that size don't need their legs from long distance nearly as much as the 6'4 and under guys. It's also barely a 22 foot line and less from the corners of course that they're shooting from.
That has nothing to do with his issues. It's all about lacking confidence right now. His mechanics are fine.
Goose: half-serious, half-kidding question for you ...
Why is Ben Gold (career 30% 3-pt) a "shooter" but not Greg Elliott (career 40% 3-pt)?
I'm having some fun here, yes, but I'm also trying to understand how someone whose basketball knowledge I truly respect decides whether someone is a shooter or not.
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Fair questions. I do not believe GE was recruited because he was a shooter and believe that was a big appeal on recruiting Ben. TK is shooting about 40% from three and I do not consider him a shooter.
I could be proven completely wrong, but I believe Ben is one of those guys that if you are an opposing fan you do not want to see him shooting a wide open three down the road. We saw that with Creighton guys yesterday, you simply do not want to see certain guys with wide open looks.
Imo, Kam is that kind of shooter and no one else on MU at the moment. Again, I am looking at his form and what other smart basketball people think of his shooting skills.
Quote from: MU82 on March 03, 2024, 09:09:21 AM
Goose: half-serious, half-kidding question for you ...
Why is Ben Gold (career 30% 3-pt) a "shooter" but not Greg Elliott (career 40% 3-pt)?
I'm having some fun here, yes, but I'm also trying to understand how someone whose basketball knowledge I truly respect decides whether someone is a shooter or not.
I wonder if it has something to do with optics. He is a stretch four and looks like he can shoot, he has a compact, quick release, he doesn't use his legs much as someone mentioned which is a plus, he has shown he can make them, we want it to be true.
I am in the camp of everyone shoot every time they have a good shot, everyone bring the ball up (except Jop), everyone get out on the break, everyone rebound. So even thought BG didn't have the best shooting game, I say keep shooting.
Quote from: Goose on March 03, 2024, 10:12:26 AM
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Fair questions. I do not believe GE was recruited because he was a shooter and believe that was a big appeal on recruiting Ben. TK is shooting about 40% from three and I do not consider him a shooter.
I could be proven completely wrong, but I believe Ben is one of those guys that if you are an opposing fan you do not want to see him shooting a wide open three down the road. We saw that with Creighton guys yesterday, you simply do not want to see certain guys with wide open looks.
Imo, Kam is that kind of shooter and no one else on MU at the moment. Again, I am looking at his form and what other smart basketball people think of his shooting skills.
Thanks for this reasonable response. Personally, I'll go with results over optics re Gold v Elliott, but I'll tack on a "so far." Because, like you, I think we'll be pretty happy about Ben's shooting before he's finished at Marquette. He already has had long stretches of outstanding shooting for MU.
And yes, Kam is both a shooter and a scorer. He goes through slumps sometimes too, but so do Curry and Durant.
The problem I have had all year long is the way we use Joplin. He can be deadly from three, but we seem to emphasize him driving to the basket. He should drive when he has an open lane. I do not like him continually trying to back down players. I rather have him being set up to take threes.
I see him as a similar type player to Scheierman.
Scheierman took 17 shots and 12 were from three.
Joplin took 13 shots and 3 were from three.
I think Joplin should pound the paint, but think he should be fed down there rather than driving into the paint. Get him the ball down low and he can fill up the basket. I would rather see Jop down low and going to the basket. He has shown over the last six weeks he can deliver down low and I hope we see more of it.
Joplin is noticeable because his one on one stuff is not as quick and free flowing as the other 4 starters. But the concepts are similar. Try and force a switch and then isolate it. Jop simply is not as quick. But they want him to do it. If they didn't, they wouldn't keep running it.
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Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 03, 2024, 03:58:13 AM
the real don kojis is rolling in his grave asking this numbskull to quit soiling his name. it's very revealing donny didn't come back to rebut anything that was said. say goodnight dick
i know it's not easy to accept anything short of victory, BUT this team fought hard and should be commended for it's efforts. they had no business being in this game for 30-35 minutes as they were. great reflections on our coach and players. if we weren't so gassed by the end, I really believed we had a chance to pull off a nice little upset
Print it, frame it & hang it in the F'n Louvre.
Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2024, 06:56:55 PM
Joplin is noticeable because his one on one stuff is not as quick and free flowing as the other 4 starters. But the concepts are similar. Try and force a switch and then isolate it. Jop simply is not as quick. But they want him to do it. If they didn't, they wouldn't keep running it.
Jop's improvement over the last 10 games going to the hoop and in the post has been pretty incredible. It's great to see.
There's not one guy on this team that isn't playing his best ball of the season. Oso is the only possible exception, but he's playing great too.