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Title: Duh-Paul
Post by: tower912 on February 21, 2024, 09:57:36 PM
1.  Everything to follow is with the caveat that DePaul is the opponent.  Washington Generals-esque.
2.   A nice palate cleanser. 
3.  I wonder if Kolek started the game with the intent of going off on assists or if it just flowed that way. 18.
4.  Kam has been money against DePaul and Georgetown.   
5.  The sun came up Sunday.  The team went to work.   The work paid off.
6.  Very disappointed in the lack of free throws.
7.   I wanted MU to play well enough that the young guys would play the last 10 minutes.   Close enough.  Getting TKo the record was more important.
8.  Back to the Big East now.


Ben and Chase finished the game limping.  Poop.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: MuggsyB on February 21, 2024, 09:58:22 PM
1.  Everything to follow is with the caveat that DePaul is the opponent.  Washington Generals-esque.
2.   A nice palate cleanser. 
3.  I wonder if Kolek started the game with the intent of going off on assists or if it just flowed that way. 18.
4.  Kam has been money against DePaul and Georgetown.   
5.  The sun came up Sunday.  The team went to work.   The work paid off.
6.  Very disappointed in the lack of free throws.
7.   I wanted MU to play well enough that the young guys would play the last 10 minutes.   Close enough.  Getting TKo the record was more important.
8.  Back to the Big East now.


Ben and Chase finished the game limping.  Poop.

6 is puzzling to me. 
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 21, 2024, 10:01:37 PM
1.  Everything to follow is with the caveat that DePaul is the opponent.  Washington Generals-esque.
2.   A nice palate cleanser. 
3.  I wonder if Kolek started the game with the intent of going off on assists or if it just flowed that way. 18.
4.  Kam has been money against DePaul and Georgetown.   
5.  The sun came up Sunday.  The team went to work.   The work paid off.
6.  Very disappointed in the lack of free throws.
7.   I wanted MU to play well enough that the young guys would play the last 10 minutes.   Close enough.  Getting TKo the record was more important.
8.  Back to the Big East now.


Ben and Chase finished the game limping.  Poop.

The young guys (Al, Tre, Zaide) looked pretty poor.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: wadesworld on February 21, 2024, 10:04:36 PM
The young guys (Al, Tre, Zaide) looked pretty poor.

Tre and Al looked just fine to me.

Clear point of emphasis to push the pace tonight. We were flying.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: tower912 on February 21, 2024, 10:06:39 PM
The young guys (Al, Tre, Zaide) looked pretty poor.
I disagree.   They looked comfortable, ran the offense without adult supervision, got some good looks for themselves and teammates.   Again, with the caveat that it was DePaul.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: PointWarrior on February 21, 2024, 10:07:03 PM
Crazy stat.  DePaul went 23-23 from the FT line and lost by 34
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: tower912 on February 21, 2024, 10:08:43 PM
MU covered!
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: MuMark on February 21, 2024, 10:11:27 PM
I think Trey looked fine……his shot needs to be reworked though…..it’s just so flat.

Tyler definitely decided to go for the record before the game……he took 2 shots and otherwise never even looked at the basket was asking for the ball on the break which he almost never does.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: MuggsyB on February 21, 2024, 10:13:07 PM
DePaul is one of the worst D-1 teams I've ever seen.  But that was still fun.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 21, 2024, 10:14:41 PM
Regardless of who their coach is next year, how does DePaul even begin to recruit players next year?
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Jay Bee on February 21, 2024, 10:15:42 PM
Crazy stat.  DePaul went 23-23 from the FT line and lost by 34

#FTsNoMatta
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Goose on February 21, 2024, 10:17:02 PM
TK definitely decided early on that the assists were going to be there. He had tunnel vision the whole night and the team fed off of it. I will say, he had a handful of passes that not many guys could make and they were spot on target.

Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: nyg on February 21, 2024, 10:18:47 PM
1.  Everything to follow is with the caveat that DePaul is the opponent.  Washington Generals-esque.
2.   A nice palate cleanser. 
3.  I wonder if Kolek started the game with the intent of going off on assists or if it just flowed that way. 18.
4.  Kam has been money against DePaul and Georgetown.   
5.  The sun came up Sunday.  The team went to work.   The work paid off.
6.  Very disappointed in the lack of free throws.
7.   I wanted MU to play well enough that the young guys would play the last 10 minutes.   Close enough.  Getting TKo the record was more important.
8.  Back to the Big East now.


Ben and Chase finished the game limping.  Poop.
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I thought you were going to remind us again it was Gold's shin splints from July :).  Actually, he turned his right ankle on shot block attempt. 
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 21, 2024, 10:23:25 PM
DePaul is one of the worst D-1 teams I've ever seen.  But that was still fun.

Right.  Happy MU clobbered them, but DePaul is bad.  Worst team MU has played at home this year.  Rider is second worst, and an order of magnitude better!

Take the stat saving win over a bad depleted team.

Edit:  should add I was apparently wrong about Brady making them better.  Except for his first game as interim...
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Mu8891 on February 21, 2024, 10:27:16 PM
Duh Paul should just shut down their program and be done with it
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 21, 2024, 10:30:38 PM
Duh Paul should just shut down their program and be done with it
They need their version of Kevin O'Neill, except I think KO's path was much easier than whoever DePaul's coach's will be.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: MuggsyB on February 21, 2024, 10:31:24 PM
Right.  Happy MU clobbered them, but DePaul is bad.  Worst team MU has played at home this year.  Rider is second worst, and an order of magnitude better!

Take the stat saving win over a bad depleted team.

Edit:  should add I was apparently wrong about Brady making them better.  Except for his first game as interim...

Agreed but maybe this gets Kam cooking.  He missed a bunch of open looks at UCONN.  We need the young man to shred the nets from downtown.  It could be the key to a deep tournament run. 
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 21, 2024, 10:31:46 PM
Tre and Al looked just fine to me.

Clear point of emphasis to push the pace tonight. We were flying.

Tre looked bad on D, committed 4 fouls in 16 minutes. Al’s “shots” from 5 feet weren’t close. None of Tre or Zaide’s 5 3 point shots were close. Maybe we have a difference of opinion on what “just fine” means. Even with Chase and Ben in the lineup the second team was outplayed by DePaul. IMO their extended minutes were disappointing.
The first team, OTOH….
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 21, 2024, 10:33:55 PM
Agreed but maybe this gets Kam cooking.  He missed a bunch of open looks at UCONN.  We need the young man to shred the nets from downtown.  It could be the key to a deep tournament run.

Georgetown is the only team that plays worse defense than DePaul.  Also the last time Kam had a better game
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Newsdreams on February 21, 2024, 10:38:12 PM
Crazy stat.  DePaul went 23-23 from the FT line and lost by 34
The least important factor
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 21, 2024, 10:49:28 PM
Georgetown is the only team that plays worse defense than DePaul.  Also the last time Kam had a better game

True that Georgetown plays really bad D. But worse than DePaul? We could have scored 130 tonight if we wanted to.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: MU82 on February 21, 2024, 10:50:36 PM
Sucks that we played DePaul tonight because I honestly believe we would have beaten anybody we played, especially at Fiserv. Shaka had them ready to atone for the game in Hartford, and the players came out extremely focused and determined.

Need Kam to pretend that Creighton and UConn are DePaul and Georgetown; he'll get some open looks against them, and we need him to bury a high percentage of them.

I love that Shaka let Oso play PG for a few minutes in the second half -- a little appetite-whetter for NBA scouts. He looked like Magic Johnson out there - or at least like Ben Simmons used to look. 15 points, 9 rebs, 7 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals. Such a good player.

Kolek got a few "easy" assists thanks to the hot shooting of Kam and others, but he also made some incredible, absolutely perfect, high-degree-of-difficulty passes. What vision, imagination and skill. NBA skill.

Ross looked great. I hope he's OK. He will be a very important player for us a month from now.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: MuggsyB on February 21, 2024, 10:55:35 PM
Nm
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: PointWarrior on February 21, 2024, 10:56:48 PM
I am just disappointed the crazy DePaul end of bench googles guy / cheerleader / walk-on is no longer on team
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: DFW HOYA on February 21, 2024, 11:00:57 PM
I am just disappointed the crazy DePaul end of bench googles guy / cheerleader / walk-on is no longer on team

Per his LinkedIn account, he sells financial services for NY Life, so it worked out for him.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 21, 2024, 11:03:53 PM
True that Georgetown plays really bad D. But worse than DePaul? We could have scored 130 tonight if we wanted to.

I think including tonight's game...
GTown... #313 (kenpom), #291(torvik)
DePaul.... #309 (kenpom), #296 (torvik)

Torvik just updated to put GTown ahead, and kenpom claims to have counted 42 of 45 games today.  Both historically bad defensive teams.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: PointWarrior on February 21, 2024, 11:21:16 PM
Is that better than working at Arby's?

Per his LinkedIn account, he sells financial services for NY Life, so it worked out for him.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 22, 2024, 06:19:16 AM
Sucks that we played DePaul tonight because I honestly believe we would have beaten anybody we played, especially at Fiserv. Shaka had them ready to atone for the game in Hartford, and the players came out extremely focused and determined.

Need Kam to pretend that Creighton and UConn are DePaul and Georgetown; he'll get some open looks against them, and we need him to bury a high percentage of them.

I love that Shaka let Oso play PG for a few minutes in the second half -- a little appetite-whetter for NBA scouts. He looked like Magic Johnson out there - or at least like Ben Simmons used to look. 15 points, 9 rebs, 7 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals. Such a good player.

Kolek got a few "easy" assists thanks to the hot shooting of Kam and others, but he also made some incredible, absolutely perfect, high-degree-of-difficulty passes. What vision, imagination and skill. NBA skill.

Ross looked great. I hope he's OK. He will be a very important player for us a month from now.

Easy triple double if he plays the whole game.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: mug644 on February 22, 2024, 06:34:57 AM
I do hope that Chase and Ben are fine going into this next stretch.

I didn't hear any explanation for why Stevie was wearing a shoulder brace. Anyone know?
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: tower912 on February 22, 2024, 06:36:15 AM
He has had tape on that shoulder previously.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 22, 2024, 06:41:08 AM
I do hope that Chase and Ben are fine going into this next stretch.

I didn't hear any explanation for why Stevie was wearing a shoulder brace. Anyone know?

To brace his shoulder.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 22, 2024, 07:04:45 AM
To brace his shoulder.

You heard it here first on Scoop!
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: pbiflyer on February 22, 2024, 07:19:52 AM
I am just disappointed the crazy DePaul end of bench googles guy / cheerleader / walk-on is no longer on team

First time I saw him on the bench, I legit thought it was some honorary thing for a mentally challenged person.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: MUMonster03 on February 22, 2024, 07:44:23 AM
I think including tonight's game...
GTown... #313 (kenpom), #291(torvik)
DePaul.... #309 (kenpom), #296 (torvik)

Torvik just updated to put GTown ahead, and kenpom claims to have counted 42 of 45 games today.  Both historically bad defensive teams.

Or just historically bad, a combined 1-29 in conference play, if any of the bubble teams in the conference lose to them they are probably out.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: nyg on February 22, 2024, 07:51:16 AM
Depaul has lost its last 15 games by an average of 24 points. 
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 22, 2024, 07:52:22 AM
That DePaul team was probably the worst P6 team I have ever seen. DePaul cut the lead to 18 at the under 4:00 timeout. Shaka put in the starters and went on a 16-4 run to end the half, and they looked completely demoralized and disinterested. I was laughing at how bad some of those turnovers were.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 22, 2024, 07:56:36 AM
That DePaul team was probably the worst P6 team I have ever seen. DePaul cut the lead to 18 at the under 4:00 timeout. Shaka put in the starters and went on a 16-4 run to end the half, and they looked completely demoralized and disinterested. I was laughing at how bad some of those turnovers were.

At some point during the game, I felt bad for the DePaul players.  They were probably very excited to play D1 basketball in a top flight conference at one point.

No one wants to go out there and get their asses kicked twice a week and look like fools.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 22, 2024, 08:02:22 AM
At some point during the game, I felt bad for the DePaul players.  They were probably very excited to play D1 basketball in a top flight conference at one point.

No one wants to go out there and get their asses kicked twice a week and look like fools.

I felt the same way.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: mugrad_89 on February 22, 2024, 08:06:40 AM
This is the Kam we need for a long March run.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 22, 2024, 08:16:32 AM
That DePaul team was probably the worst P6 team I have ever seen. DePaul cut the lead to 18 at the under 4:00 timeout. Shaka put in the starters and went on a 16-4 run to end the half, and they looked completely demoralized and disinterested. I was laughing at how bad some of those turnovers were.

I emailed Scholl during the game and asked for a STH refund.  Pathetic effort.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: MUMonster03 on February 22, 2024, 08:23:05 AM
That DePaul team was probably the worst P6 team I have ever seen. DePaul cut the lead to 18 at the under 4:00 timeout. Shaka put in the starters and went on a 16-4 run to end the half, and they looked completely demoralized and disinterested. I was laughing at how bad some of those turnovers were.

We need to consider a European relegation system when you are this bad, give another team a shot :)
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: wadesworld on February 22, 2024, 09:23:41 AM
Did I miss something on Chase?  I saw Ben hobbling with a tweaked ankle.  What happened to Chase that we hope he's okay from?
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 22, 2024, 09:24:49 AM
Did I miss something on Chase?  I saw Ben hobbling with a tweaked ankle.  What happened to Chase that we hope he's okay from?

Looked like he turned his ankle late in the game. The ref even stopped action for a bit. But he finished.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: Warrior Code on February 22, 2024, 09:27:24 AM
Lots of tweaked ankles this year, it seems. As Mars Blackmon once asked, "is it the shoes?"
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 22, 2024, 09:29:45 AM
Lots of tweaked ankles this year, it seems. As Mars Blackmon once asked, "is it the shoes?"

It's the damn LA Gear contract...
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: 1990Warrior on February 22, 2024, 09:38:14 AM
3.  I wonder if Kolek started the game with the intent of going off on assists or if it just flowed that way. 18.

I think this was done as a result of the success UConn had with the double teams.  He did not do much in terms of pick and roll with Oso.  Just worked on dissecting the with passing.  Hopefully this approach will pay off in the future.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: tower912 on February 22, 2024, 09:41:24 AM
MU took advantage of DePaul jogging back and ran more fast break offense than usual last night.   Also, MU has not run a back door lob for Ross before last night.   
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 22, 2024, 09:43:20 AM
We need to consider a European relegation system when you are this bad, give another team a shot :)

Last night my daughter asked -- in all sincerity -- "How are they still Division 1?" Apparently she thought that NCAA does have a relegation system.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: pbiflyer on February 22, 2024, 12:00:54 PM
Why is no one talking about how DePaul out rebounded us?????? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  /s
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: CTWarrior on February 22, 2024, 12:16:35 PM
At some point during the game, I felt bad for the DePaul players.  They were probably very excited to play D1 basketball in a top flight conference at one point.

No one wants to go out there and get their asses kicked twice a week and look like fools.

Me, too, and I thought about it in almost exactly those terms.
Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: pbiflyer on February 22, 2024, 12:19:33 PM
Me, too, and I thought about it in almost exactly those terms.

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Title: Re: Duh-Paul
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 22, 2024, 12:21:46 PM
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that about sums up what i was thinking last night.  sad!