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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 1SE on February 12, 2024, 03:27:14 AM

Title: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: 1SE on February 12, 2024, 03:27:14 AM
I'm really impressed that for the third time in three years Shaka has managed a 7 game BE winning streak. It got me wondering how important winning streaks are for winning it all - given you need to win 6 straight to do it.

Since 2000, only 1 champion had less than a 5 game winning streak during conference play (non-con no matta) - UCONN in 2014 with a 4-gamer - and 18 of the 23 champs had streaks of 6 or more (counting UCONN's 6 game streak in 2011 which technically started with a win against ranked Texas before 5 conference wins).

Being able to string together wins during the regular season clearly has some correlation with post-season success (a necessary condition - would be interesting to see at what point a regular season streak becomes a sufficient condition - say for FF - of the teams with at least a X-game conference winning streak, how many made the FF - but that would be much more work!).
Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 12, 2024, 05:29:42 AM
                                 

                                    put me down for, i like MU winning streaks   ;D
Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: wisblue on February 12, 2024, 06:50:59 AM
My gut feeling is that it isn't a better predictor than overall record.

A conference winning streak might just reflect having a stretch of games against mostly lesser (non NCAA tournament caliber) opponents.

Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 12, 2024, 06:59:38 AM
Quote from: wisblue on February 12, 2024, 06:50:59 AM
My gut feeling is that it isn't a better predictor than overall record.

A conference winning streak might just reflect having a stretch of games against mostly lesser (non NCAA tournament caliber) opponents.

I would think that a lot of small and mid-major conference tournament winners have pretty significant winning streaks in their conference season. At the very least, using conference winning streaks as a predictor for tournament success would have to be limited for major conference. And once we do that, I can't help but wonder if it's stating the fairly obvious: the best teams from major conferences tend to do well in the tournament.
Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: cheebs09 on February 12, 2024, 08:26:51 AM
I remember when we were wondering how long it would take to win 3 in a row.
Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: Viper on February 12, 2024, 08:37:36 AM
Quote from: wisblue on February 12, 2024, 06:50:59 AM
My gut feeling is that it isn't a better predictor than overall record.

A conference winning streak might just reflect having a stretch of games against mostly lesser (non NCAA tournament caliber) opponents.
I agree. We'll see what MU is all about over these next three weeks. UConn twice. Road games at Creighton, X and Butler. The team is in a great position to defend the BE, but the upcoming schedule is challenging to say the least.
Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 12, 2024, 08:44:09 AM
Quote from: Viper on February 12, 2024, 08:37:36 AM
I agree. We'll see what MU is all about over these next three weeks. UConn twice. Road games at Creighton, X and Butler. The team is in a great position to defend the BE, but the upcoming schedule is challenging to say the least.

I wouldn't say we are in a great position with UConn being 2 games ahead in the loss column, but we do control our own destiny which is all you can ask for.
Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: We R Final Four on February 12, 2024, 09:28:59 AM
The most important winning streaks are in March. Shaka has put together several winning streaks in do or die situations.

—5 games VCU PLAY IN GAME FINAL FOUR
—5 games TEX NIT CHAMPS
—4 games VCU CBI TOURNAMENT CHAMPS
—4 games VCU A10 TOURNAMENT CHAMPS
—3 games VCU CAA TOURNAMENT CHAMPS
—3 games MU BEAST TOURNAMENT CHAMPS
—3 games* TEX B12 TOURNAMENT CHAMPS
*= KU forfeited game due to covid on team

Those are all must win games, and the games got more difficult than the last one.
Very impressive list. Just need to add 6 games to the list.
Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: barfolomew on February 12, 2024, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 12, 2024, 09:28:59 AM
Those are all must win games, and the games got more difficult than the last one.
Very impressive list. Just need to add 6 games to the list.

Good point.
We need to find out our NCAA opponent asap so we know who to infect w covid.
Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on February 12, 2024, 10:28:12 PM
You have inspired me to update this post from Shaka's first year that I had completely forgotten about, thank you!

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=62838.0
Title: Re: The Importance of Winning Streaks
Post by: 1SE on February 13, 2024, 01:04:03 AM
Quote from: Silkk the Shaka on February 12, 2024, 10:28:12 PM
You have inspired me to update this post from Shaka's first year that I had completely forgotten about, thank you!

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=62838.0

Yeah - Shaka doing it 3 years in a row really impressive- bring on the lifetime contract!
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