Maybe my eyes are off but I did not see his name on the Wooden list among 20 players. And some of these names, compared to him, are baffling frankly. Anyway, after Edey is he not the 2nd best big in the country? Did I hallucinate when he owned that douchebag on Kansas? I fully expect Oso to be a 2nd team A-A at worst.
I'd like to see Edey take the ball end to end and finish. Oso can play the 1-4-5 spots. What other center is throwing no-look passes like him?
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on February 04, 2024, 11:06:20 AM
I'd like to see Edey take the ball end to end and finish. Oso can play the 1-4-5 spots. What other center is throwing no-look passes like him?
I don't think the stats truly measure his value. I think hoops people realize how good Oso is but not being on that list of 20 is pretty shocking to me.
Upon further review there are eight 6'9 and above guys on this list. Wow.
NBA scouts know.
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2024, 11:17:36 AM
NBA scouts know.
Do you think he's a solid 10yr NBA guy Tower? I'm just wondering if his lack of an outside game will make teams hesitant. That said all of his other skills may very well be enough to contribute.
Sometimes when you read the title of the thread you know who the OP is before you see it.
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2024, 11:17:36 AM
NBA scouts know.
He's not good enough for the NBA. He'll be back next year
I don't think Oso has flashy enough stats to make that list. I also think those that truly know the game understand his value. He does so many things that don't show up on a stat sheet.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 04, 2024, 11:27:10 AM
Sometimes when you read the title of the thread you know who the OP is before you see it.
I would have thought Oso was too tall for Muggsy to get worked up over.
Muggsy, you watch more basketball than I do. What is your assessment of Oso's NBA prospects?
My criteria is watching NBA playoffs. Can I picture MU player X playing defense for an NBA playoff team? With OMAX, and now Oso, the answer for me is yes. I can easily see them guarding Bam and Jimmy, getting a switch, and being able to defend the switch. Or Jokic and Murray. Naturally, they both still have much to learn, but I can still see it.
Brooke Lopez couldn't shoot 3s coming out of college. I think Oso can figure out shooting from distance.
Quote from: forgetful on February 04, 2024, 11:40:40 AM
I would have thought Oso was too tall for Muggsy to get worked up over.
Why does everyone assume I'm worked up? It's was just an observation.
Muggsy
When it matters, Oso will get his respect via a very long and prosperous NBA career. The sky is limit for him moving forward and very excited to watch his next chapter next season.
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2024, 11:41:26 AM
Muggsy, you watch more basketball than I do. What is your assessment of Oso's NBA prospects?
My criteria is watching NBA playoffs. Can I picture MU player X playing defense for an NBA playoff team? With OMAX, and now Oso, the answer for me is yes. I can easily see them guarding Bam and Jimmy, getting a switch, and being able to defend the switch. Or Jokic and Murray. Naturally, they both still have much to learn, but I can still see it.
Brooke Lopez couldn't shoot 3s coming out of college. I think Oso can figure out shooting from distance.
That's true about Lopez although he's much bigger than Oso. My concern is the outside game has become paramount. I'm hoping that in the NBA hia athleticism can be utilized more. The question is who currently playing in the nba reminds you of Oso? I just don't know.
Quote from: Goose on February 04, 2024, 11:48:10 AM
Muggsy
When it matters, Oso will get his respect via a very long and prosperous NBA career. The sky is limit for him moving forward and very excited to watch his next chapter next season.
Goose,
Even though it was G-Town that left-handed semi-hook from 9 feet off the dribble was sweet.
Muggsy
He has used the left handed hook a couple of times lately and very impressive. There is no doubt in my mind that he is going be a very wealthy man in short order.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2024, 11:53:53 AM
That's true about Lopez although he's much bigger than Oso. My concern is the outside game has become paramount. I'm hoping that in the NBA hia athleticism can be utilized more. The question is who currently playing in the nba reminds you of Oso? I just don't know.
More athletic Joakim Noah/Dollar Store Giannis.
Muggsy, ask a different question. Who can he guard?
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 04, 2024, 11:58:34 AM
More athletic Joakim Noah/Dollar Store Giannis.
Can he become a dominant glass cleaner?
Agree with Muggsy. On television yesterday they said NBA Scouts were at the Georgetown game watching Oso. Feel NBA Scouts are watching Oso closely since they understand how valuable Oso is.
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2024, 12:00:04 PM
Muggsy, ask a different question. Who can he guard?
I think he is good enough to guard multiple positions. I wonder if he could develop into a bigger Draymond Green? Without being a total insane head case of course.
I like it.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 04, 2024, 12:13:48 PM
I think he is good enough to guard multiple positions. I wonder if he could develop into a bigger Draymond Green? Without being a total insane head case of course.
What? He has the exact opposite body type.
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2024, 11:41:26 AM
Brooke Lopez couldn't shoot 3s coming out of college. I think Oso can figure out shooting from distance.
Hell, Lopez couldn't shoot 3s the first 8 years of his career into his late 20s.
As for his NBA comp, 6'10/6'11 guys who can run the floor and jump well get drafted every year on potential. And he's more polished than a lot of those guys. He can be a guy like Nic Claxton from the Nets, but he's an even better passer/ball handler
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2024, 12:17:20 PM
I like it.
I'd like to see him stay another year and work on developing a jump shot
Hard to take any of the lists seriously
Oso made the top 10 for the Karl Malone award which is the 10 best PFs
A position he simply doesnt play.
I think Oso has some legitimate star potential at the NBA level. It's possible we're seeing just the tip of the iceberg with his ball-handling and driving abilities. If he significantly develops those attributes and adds a decent jump shot, he's a star.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on February 04, 2024, 12:35:47 PM
I think Oso has some legitimate star potential at the NBA level. It's possible we're seeing just the tip of the iceberg with his ball-handling and driving abilities. If he significantly develops those attributes and adds a decent jump shot, he's a star.
I hope you're right. It will be interesting to watch him in a more free flowing game.
If Oso is drafted by a team with a star guard or wing and multiple perimeter scorers, he will be awesome. Someone like OKC where they have SGA, Jalen Williams and Chet where Oso can just defend, pass and play his elite role player game.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 04, 2024, 12:17:37 PM
What? He has the exact opposite body type.
Totally different body type, but I understand Muggsy's comparison. He can defend 1/5 and excels when the offense is running through him because he reads the defense so well. Body types are different, but look and feel for the game is the same.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2024, 12:27:10 PM
Hard to take any of the lists seriously
Oso made the top 10 for the Karl Malone award which is the 10 best PFs
A position he simply doesnt play.
I always think the lists are for the 5-8 true contenders (for the Wooden) and then 2-3 for positional lists, and then the rest is just PR fluff for major programs or schools that sportswriters push.
If you are really good player from a top 25, much less mid major, program but aren't 1st/2nd team AA caliber, you'll likely not make the list but someone from Duke/UNC/Zona/etc... who isn't as good will
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2024, 11:41:26 AM
Muggsy, you watch more basketball than I do. What is your assessment of Oso's NBA prospects?
My criteria is watching NBA playoffs. Can I picture MU player X playing defense for an NBA playoff team? With OMAX, and now Oso, the answer for me is yes. I can easily see them guarding Bam and Jimmy, getting a switch, and being able to defend the switch. Or Jokic and Murray. Naturally, they both still have much to learn, but I can still see it.
Brooke Lopez couldn't shoot 3s coming out of college. I think Oso can figure out shooting from distance.
Lopez - crazy high usage and attempted treys. Just didn't need them.
Oso - low usage & %shots compared to most wooden guys.
Quote from: JTJ3 on February 04, 2024, 12:39:18 PM
If Oso is drafted by a team with a star guard or wing and multiple perimeter scorers, he will be awesome. Someone like OKC where they have SGA, Jalen Williams and Chet where Oso can just defend, pass and play his elite role player game.
ESPN's most recent mock has him going to OKC and that would be amazing. https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/39281094/2024-nba-mock-draft-21-college-prospects-scouts-monitoring
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 04, 2024, 12:27:10 PM
Hard to take any of the lists seriously
Oso made the top 10 for the Karl Malone award which is the 10 best PFs
A position he simply doesnt play.
Not sure how they pick, but maybe Marquette submitted him for that. The competition is probably Filipowski & LeDee, which feels far easier to overcome than Edey for the Kareem center award.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 04, 2024, 12:25:54 PM
I'd like to see him stay another year and work on developing a jump shot
Midrange!
Quote from: JWags85 on February 04, 2024, 12:59:31 PM
I always think the lists are for the 5-8 true contenders (for the Wooden) and then 2-3 for positional lists, and then the rest is just PR fluff for major programs or schools that sportswriters push.
If you are really good player from a top 25, much less mid major, program but aren't 1st/2nd team AA caliber, you'll likely not make the list but someone from Duke/UNC/Zona/etc... who isn't as good will
And let's not forget that we do have a guy on that list - Kolek. Marquette getting two of the top 20, that'd really have been something, especially given that Oso's stats do not jump out at you.
Oso can, and probably will, have a long NBA career even if he never develops a shot outside the paint. Tall, athletic, active, smart, switchable defender, great handle, great passer, decent moves around the rim. He needs to get stronger, for sure, but I could see him playing a long time in the league.
Claxton is a pretty darn good comparison, Wags.
Oso may never develop into an NBA star, but he will have a long and profitable career. Always a place for a 6'10" guy who can pass, defend, run the floor, and has a high bb IQ. He may be a role player and he may move around from team to team, but he will be in the league for quite a while.
Quote from: rgoode57 on February 05, 2024, 09:07:16 AM
Oso may never develop into an NBA star, but he will have a long and profitable career. Always a place for a 6'10" guy who can pass, defend, run the floor, and has a high bb IQ. He may be a role player and he may move around from team to team, but he will be in the league for quite a while.
I agree with this outlook. So happy he's put himself in this position. He'll be an outstanding representative of MU. Just a great, hardworking, selfless, humble kid. I hope Hamilton and Amadou especially listen and watch him closely.