1. A great run to begin. The flow changed with the no-call on the Kolek drive.
2. Villanova showed some pride on both ends. They also changed their defensive rotation, taking away the middle and then recovering to shooters. It only took them 52 minutes of getting smoked to finally adjust.
3. Welcome back, Chase.
4. Heal quickly, Tre.
5. Momentum is a powerful thing. It took a hustle play by Gold leading to Ross getting fouled on a 3 to stem it.
6. 34-10 run. 25-9 answer.
7-Man rotation. Essentially a 6 man rotation in the second half.
8. But that Kolek guy. He's ok. Oh, that's right. He is a first team all American.
9. Free throws... yeah.
10. This team has heart. Get healthy. The sky is the limit with a healthy Kam and a healthy Ross.
That was a direction to Ross. If the easy in bound pass isn't there, throw it as far as you can.
+2.5 was an insult. Marquette might not see a line like that the rest of the season.
Muggsy, anything to add?
Tre was in late when Mitchell went out so I'm sure he's fine.
I mentioned before the game I thought their championship mettle would come thru tonite and that's what we saw.
Chase's foul/block was one of the more athletic displays I've seen in the last few years by Marquette
Best post game thread title ever.
My goodness. I have whiplash from that game. Good shorthanded win.
Impressed with our guys tonight.
Hit some FTs, Jop.
Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2024, 08:13:10 PM
That was a direction to Ross. If the easy in bound pass isn't there, throw it as far as you can.
Totally agree. During the timeout, I said to my wife that if the quick inbounds wasn't there, throw it over half court
tower
Great win. Great recap!!
So good to have Chase back.
Get Kam healthy and let's roll.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 30, 2024, 08:16:24 PM
+2.5 was an insult. Marquette might not see a line like that the rest of the season.
At UCONN it'll be higher than that.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 30, 2024, 08:16:24 PM
+2.5 was an insult. Marquette might not see a line like that the rest of the season.
Hope you made a boatload. There was nothing insulting about it. Q1 road game. Everyone is losing those.
We'll see a bigger line at Creighton and at UCONN. Depending on who we play, could be bigger in the NCAAs and BET too.
3rd toughest game left on the regular season schedule, according to the computers.
I hope no expectant mothers watched that game. They aren't allowed on roller coasters.
MU opponents are now 29-29 on free throws the last two games. They shouldn't be that hard.
Thank goodness for Kolek's 3 point string in the last 10 minutes. Other points were getting hard to come by.
I'm glad to get that game out of the way and in the bank. I don't think they would have done it without Ross's contributions.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 30, 2024, 08:36:21 PM
Hope you made a boatload. There was nothing insulting about it. Q1 road game. Everyone is losing those.
We'll see a bigger line at Creighton and at UCONN. Depending on who we play, could be bigger in the NCAAs and BET too.
3rd toughest game left on the regular season schedule, according to the computers.
Yep. No one should have expected anything but a brawl tonight, especially with Kam out.
Quote from: wisblue on January 30, 2024, 08:38:35 PM
I hope no expectant mothers watched that game. They aren't allowed on roller coasters.
MU opponents are now 29-29 on free throws the last two games. They shouldn't be that hard.
Thank goodness for Kolek's 3 point string in the last 10 minutes. Other points were getting hard to come by.
I'm glad to get that game out of the way and in the bank. I don't think they would have done it without Ross's contributions.
Need better FT defense
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 30, 2024, 08:18:04 PM
Chase's foul/block was one of the more athletic displays I've seen in the last few years by Marquette
Chase's block and Jop's rebound were key to sealing the game
Quote from: wisblue on January 30, 2024, 08:38:35 PM
I hope no expectant mothers watched that game. They aren't allowed on roller coasters.
MU opponents are now 29-29 on free throws the last two games. They shouldn't be that hard.
Thank goodness for Kolek's 3 point string in the last 10 minutes. Other points were getting hard to come by.
I'm glad to get that game out of the way and in the bank. I don't think they would have done it without Ross's contributions.
Yep, very likely a loss without Ross.
#poetry
Sorry.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 30, 2024, 08:36:21 PM
Hope you made a boatload. There was nothing insulting about it. Q1 road game. Everyone is losing those.
We'll see a bigger line at Creighton and at UCONN. Depending on who we play, could be bigger in the NCAAs and BET too.
3rd toughest game left on the regular season schedule, according to the computers.
Very few tho
Assuming we dont go in the tank to mess with spreads.
Only Uconn is gonna be favored by more than 2.5 against us at the Garden. And in NCCA tourney I'd say like 5 teams that we likely dont face til deep.
Not sure how many teams could watch a 20 point lead disappear on the road and have the backbone to stay the course and win. That was an awesome display of mental toughness.
It crazy that Nova's biggest lead was 4. When I was recapping the game for my wife I said MU was up by 20 then down by 10....it felt like down by 10.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 08:42:20 PM
Very few tho
Assuming we dont go in the tank to mess with spreads.
Only Uconn is gonna be favored by more than 2.5 against us at the Garden. And in NCCA tourney I'd say like 5 teams that we likely dont face til deep.
Agreed. I'd love to be 2.5 or more point dogs in the NCAAs. Because it's probably a Final Four game.
Ty's new nickname should be Pepto as he stopped Nova's runs.
Fifth straight game with eFG% over 58%. Fifth straight win. 45.5% from three. 54% FTR.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 30, 2024, 08:40:33 PM
Chase's block and Jop's rebound were key to sealing the game
How about that put back lefty scoop by Stevie!
MU lost the turnover battle. Rare.
Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2024, 08:50:23 PM
MU lost the turnover battle. Rare.
But won the free throw battle even though Nova didn't miss.......lol
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 30, 2024, 08:18:15 PM
Best post game thread title ever.
Actually, it felt to me like a good case of the runs.
Quote from: MuMark on January 30, 2024, 08:50:02 PM
How about that put back lefty scoop by Stevie!
That was huge. I couldn't believe he made it. Clutch.
Quote from: NickelDimer on January 30, 2024, 08:43:06 PM
Not sure how many teams could watch a 20 point lead disappear on the road and have the backbone to stay the course and win. That was an awesome display of mental toughness.
This. Really good sign for March.
Very gutsy win. TKO was fantastic
Chase was great
Need Jop to make FTs .
Quote from: Jockey on January 30, 2024, 08:18:55 PM
Totally agree. During the timeout, I said to my wife that if the quick inbounds wasn't there, throw it over half court
Funny I said to my wife they're going to throw it long lol
Quote from: Jockey on January 30, 2024, 08:18:55 PM
Totally agree. During the timeout, I said to my wife that if the quick inbounds wasn't there, throw it over half court
Interesting to have Chase inbound it with no baseball pass possibility I would imagine with the shoulder. Have Jop inbound so he isn't a candidate to shoot FTs in the clutch.
Great win. Huge return by Chase. More big plays by Stevie and Kolek was unbelievable. Two wins over Nova when they shot well from 3 and perfect from the line tonight too. Impressive. Can't imagine anyone else has 6 straight over Nova in a very long time.
Quote from: Daniel on January 30, 2024, 08:59:31 PM
Funny I said to my wife they're going to throw it long lol
Funny I said to my wife to get me another beer.
Seemed like for the handshake after Shaka shook with Neptune but Neptune was looking past him.... No eye contact. Weird
NLW banned? Didn't seem to recall seeing him post tonight.Wierd
Quote from: Daniel on January 30, 2024, 09:04:36 PM
Seemed like for the handshake after Shake shook with Neptune but Neptune was looking past him.... No eye contact. Weird
A Crean special.
Quote from: MuMark on January 30, 2024, 08:50:02 PM
How about that put back lefty scoop by Stevie!
Great play.
Quote from: StillWarriors on January 30, 2024, 09:00:41 PM
Interesting to have Chase inbound it with no baseball pass possibility I would imagine with the shoulder. Have Jop inbound so he isn't a candidate to shoot FTs in the clutch.
Great win. Huge return by Chase. More big plays by Stevie and Kolek was unbelievable. Two wins over Nova when they shot well from 3 and perfect from the line tonight too. Impressive. Can't imagine anyone else has 6 straight over Nova in a very long time.
I actually trust Oso more than anyone but Kolek at the line in crunch time. Maybe not mid first half. But I'd rank them 1) Kolek (I know the end of SJU was bad) 2) Oso 3) Chase 4) Kam 5) Stevie. Jop below the walk ons.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 30, 2024, 09:08:09 PM
I actually trust Oso more than anyone but Kolek at the line in crunch time. Maybe not mid first half. But I'd rank them 1) Kolek (I know the end of SJU was bad) 2) Oso 3) Chase 4) Kam 5) Stevie. Jop below the walk ons.
Kam misses a lot of free throws. I'd put him after Stevie and Chase
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 30, 2024, 08:33:52 PM
At UCONN it'll be higher than that.
At Creighton might be too - I meant a line as (subjectively) miscalibrated.
Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2024, 08:50:23 PM
MU lost the turnover battle. Rare.
And won the rebound battle. Bizarre game.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 30, 2024, 08:36:21 PM
Hope you made a boatload. There was nothing insulting about it. Q1 road game. Everyone is losing those.
We'll see a bigger line at Creighton and at UCONN. Depending on who we play, could be bigger in the NCAAs and BET too.
3rd toughest game left on the regular season schedule, according to the computers.
I just don't see the comparison in quality between the two teams tonight. Even with Kam sitting, that should've been a half-point at most.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 30, 2024, 09:08:09 PM
I actually trust Oso more than anyone but Kolek at the line in crunch time. Maybe not mid first half. But I'd rank them 1) Kolek (I know the end of SJU was bad) 2) Oso 3) Chase 4) Kam 5) Stevie. Jop below the walk ons.
Dont imagine a scenario where we see it unless injuries stay bad and foul trouble hits.
But zaide has a free throw stroke that looks good enough to be top 3 or 4 on this very meh list. But hes never shot a single free throw in any leverage.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 30, 2024, 09:13:55 PM
I just don't see the comparison in quality between the two teams tonight. Even with Kam sitting, that should've been a half-point at most.
Nova has good computer metrics and some very high quality wins (UNC, Memphis, Creighton, Texas Tech, and Maryland). They lost a 1 point game to UCONN.
Road conference games are hard.
And Kam being out is probably worth more than 0.5 points, especially without knowing Chase would be returning. It was looking like a possible 7 man rotation, with 2 of them being very inexperienced freshman.
Could anyone make out the chant by the fans when Tyler was shooting FT's? It sounded like "you can't read"???
Quote from: romey on January 30, 2024, 09:17:59 PM
Could anyone make out the chant by the fans when Tyler was shooting FT's? It sounded like "you can't read"???
I thought I heard that too.
Kolek said in the post game that fans were chanting "where were you January 6?"
Tyler
You saw an opportunity, I hope you bet the mortgage. Hopefully you have several more hits this season.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 30, 2024, 08:47:17 PM
Fifth straight game with eFG% over 58%. Fifth straight win. 45.5% from three. 54% FTR.
I sinned and I won, all I care about
Quote from: wadesworld on January 30, 2024, 09:17:44 PM
Nova has good computer metrics and some very high quality wins (UNC, Memphis, Creighton, Texas Tech, and Maryland). They lost a 1 point game to UCONN.
Road conference games are hard.
And Kam being out is probably worth more than 0.5 points, especially without knowing Chase would be returning. It was looking like a possible 7 man rotation, with 2 of them being very inexperienced freshman.
They also have one win in 2024 against anyone not named DePaul, at home by a point against an injury riddled Xavier squad.
Real nice effort and passion by them tonight to get back into it and battle, and the next 5 get easier, but they finish off with a slate @uConn, Providence, SH and at home v GTown and Creighton.
I had a feeling they would flop after the game in Milwaukee and now they've lost 5 straight.
It would surprise me if they made the dance.
Great win, ballsy win.
Kolek was ridiculous.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 30, 2024, 09:18:44 PM
I thought I heard that too.
Kolek said in the post game that fans were chanting "where were you January 6?"
Dumb memes from Big East Twitter.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 30, 2024, 09:18:44 PM
I thought I heard that too.
Kolek said in the post game that fans were chanting "where were you January 6?"
What was that referring to? I know he had a bad game on Jan 6 this year. Or was it some weird joke referring to the event at the capitol? I didn't get it.
I don't really get "can you read?" either.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on January 30, 2024, 10:10:50 PM
I don't really get "can you read?" either.
It was some Twitter thing apparently. But I'm pretty sure TK isn't the guy you want to trash talk.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on January 30, 2024, 10:10:50 PM
I don't really get "can you read?" either.
Providence fans started it so my take (guess) is that he probably wasn't an elite HS student?
Can't think of any other reason behind it
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 30, 2024, 10:12:26 PM
It was some Twitter thing apparently. But I'm pretty sure TK isn't the guy you want to trash talk.
I said it tongiht
TK anger cause hes getting bodied with no calls and off his game offensively. Gets in his own head a bit and its not always pretty.
TK with a chip on his shoulder because of outside doubt and smack talk. Basically just signed your death warrant.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 30, 2024, 09:00:49 PM
Funny I said to my wife to get me another beer.
Screen shot taken.
Nova perfect from the line and lost?! How can this be?!
Oh yeah...
#FTsNoMatta
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 30, 2024, 11:09:54 PM
Nova perfect from the line and lost?! How can this be?!
Oh yeah...
#FTsNoMatta
MU needs to improve their free throw defense. Last two games opponents are shooting 29/29.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 30, 2024, 11:14:16 PM
MU needs to improve their free throw defense. Last two games opponents are shooting 29/29.
It's on the fans. Time 2 show skin. Shake it 4 Shake Shack.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 30, 2024, 10:25:58 PM
Providence fans started it so my take (guess) is that he probably wasn't an elite HS student?
Can't think of any other reason behind it
It's because he wasn't on the list of basketball players who earned a 3.0 average.
As for the January 6 one... I mean they're just asking questions. 😉
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 31, 2024, 04:31:26 AM
As for the January 6 one... I mean they're just asking questions. 😉
Doing their own research?
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 30, 2024, 10:06:38 PM
What was that referring to? I know he had a bad game on Jan 6 this year. Or was it some weird joke referring to the event at the capitol? I didn't get it.
In all seriousness, my wife has said from Day 1 that "Wow, what a great player, but he needs a new haircut. With that cut, he looks too much like he's associated with Jan 6th types.". Speculating Villanova fans thinking the same.
He has the type of haircut you could set your watch to . . . strictly business.
I thought they referencing his disappearance against Seton Hall on January 6th (5 pt, 5 five assists).
Quote from: warriorfred on January 31, 2024, 06:30:41 AM
He has the type of haircut you could set your watch to . . . strictly business.
I thought they referencing his disappearance against Seton Hall on January 6th (5 pt, 5 five assists).
Right. Scoop has some interesting conspiracy takes.
Quote from: warriorfred on January 31, 2024, 06:30:41 AM
He has the type of haircut you could set your watch to . . . strictly business.
I thought they referencing his disappearance against Seton Hall on January 6th (5 pt, 5 five assists).
.... and he pretty much disappeared on the 27th as well (4pts, 11 assists).
The last several games we've a 15 minute stretch of awesomeness to start either the first or second half, and the rest of the game has been mostly meh to bad. Last night we turned it around and had another good 5 minutes when we really needed it.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 31, 2024, 06:55:06 AM
.... and he pretty much disappeared on the 27th as well (4pts, 11 assists).
Sasquatch levels of disappearance (there's your conspiracy), but in Kolek's defense, he was doubled and bodied in those games. I don't believe teams get away with full-contact defense in the NCAA tournament; Big East in January it is apparently acceptable.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2024, 10:28:19 PM
I said it tongiht
TK anger cause hes getting bodied with no calls and off his game offensively. Gets in his own head a bit and its not always pretty.
TK with a chip on his shoulder because of outside doubt and smack talk. Basically just signed your death warrant.
I hope the rest of our opponents' fans talk smack to Kolek. It worked so well for the Nova fans.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 31, 2024, 06:55:06 AM
.... and he pretty much disappeared on the 27th as well (4pts, 11 assists).
11 assists isn't disappearing.
Anyone that watched the game on the 27th and thinks Kolek didn't make any difference don't know ball
Quote from: warriorfred on January 31, 2024, 06:30:41 AM
He has the type of haircut you could set your watch to . . . strictly business.
I thought they referencing his disappearance against Seton Hall on January 6th (5 pt, 5 five assists).
Jan 10 was way worse. Nova fans were doing what many scoopers do ("ur a white male so ur an awful crazy conspiracy person!"... but meanwhile the person shouting it is a hillbilly dork white beta male). That's all.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 31, 2024, 07:34:54 AM
Anyone that watched the game on the 27th and thinks Kolek didn't make any difference don't know ball
It was a rough outing for him offensively, compared to the norm.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 31, 2024, 07:37:37 AM
It was a rough outing for him offensively, compared to the norm.
No question. Still found a way to contribute and probably could have had another half dozen assists in the first half.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 31, 2024, 07:32:47 AM
11 assists isn't disappearing.
100%. Tyler doesn't need to score big to have a huge impact.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 31, 2024, 07:32:47 AM
11 assists isn't disappearing.
Largely controlled the game with passing when he gave up trying to finish because he would get hammered and never get a call. He drove and dished instead. Played well without scoring. Played good D too.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 31, 2024, 06:55:06 AM
.... and he pretty much disappeared on the 27th as well (4pts, 11 assists).
Wow. That's...ummmm...a take. I guess.
Ben was clearly better the previous two games. I wonder if the Villanova personnel and style of play was a bad match up for him. A better match for Chase, as he is an athletic wing.
The good news is a lot of players seem to be stepping up. Get through Saturday and use the next week to rehab for the stretch run.
Real good game article by Ben Steele:
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/01/30/tyler-koleks-career-night-helps-marquette-survive-against-villanova/72401389007/
"... Every layup line, you see me coming out with 7, 8 minutes left, you see me talking to myself. Like, 'They don't think I'm good enough.' 'They think I suck.' I'm just talking to myself, revving myself up, getting myself up to then start the game the way I really want to start and then bring my edge to the rest of the guys."
Love it!
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2024, 08:05:01 AM
Ben was clearly better the previous two games. I wonder if the Villanova personnel and style of play was a bad match up for him. A better match for Chase, as he is an athletic wing.
The good news is a lot of players seem to be stepping up. Get through Saturday and use the next week to rehab for the stretch run.
My wife and I will be in DC for the game, the only Marquette game we attend in years when we do not go to NYC for the BET. I never look beyond the next game-not even DePaul :D.. It's just the way I am wired. No unwelcome surprises Saturday please.
Can't find the presser. Anyone got a link?
I was just looking for it, too, and could not find one.
Quote from: warriorfred on January 31, 2024, 06:30:41 AM
He has the type of haircut you could set your watch to . . . strictly business.
TK's haircut looks straight out of the Ardmore salon which, like January 6th, one end of a spectrum argues is a crime against this great nation.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 31, 2024, 09:04:49 AM
TK's haircut looks straight out of the Ardmore salon which, like January 6th, one end of a spectrum argues is a crime against this great nation.
This made me laugh.
Seriously, I never thought there would be a day where Scoop would be discussing whether the average haircut would be deemed "fascist."
I remained pleasantly surprised.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 31, 2024, 08:13:56 AM
My wife and I will be in DC for the game, the only Marquette game we attend in years when we do not go to NYC for the BET. I never look beyond the next game-not even DePaul :D.. It's just the way I am wired. No unwelcome surprises Saturday please.
Please make sure Tyler does not break into the Capital this time.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 31, 2024, 10:13:04 AM
Please make sure Tyler does not break into the Capital this time.
I'm on it.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 30, 2024, 08:18:15 PM
Best post game thread title ever.
Thanks. My favorite was 'Purdude abides.'
Too bad MU lost, but I was proud of that title.
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2024, 08:25:19 AM
I was just looking for it, too, and could not find one.
Here is the Nova post game at 18 minute mark, like the postgame analysis starting at the 23 minute mark.
Not sure why no Shaka.
https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/1752516429289509278?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 31, 2024, 07:38:33 AM
No question. Still found a way to contribute and probably could have had another half dozen assists in the first half.
It became apparent Seton Hall was going to hammer him inside and the refs weren't going to call it, so he stopped driving and became a facilitator. As a result it wasn't his most metrically efficient game, but he still did a good job being a net positive.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 31, 2024, 07:36:21 AM
Jan 10 was way worse. Nova fans were doing what many scoopers do ("ur a white male so ur an awful crazy conspiracy person!"... but meanwhile the person shouting it is a hillbilly dork white beta male). That's all.
Truly
nm