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Title: Seton Hall
Post by: NCMUFan on January 26, 2024, 09:25:03 AM
Big game tomorrow.
Need to beat Seton Hall to equal 500 with them during conference play.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 26, 2024, 09:36:35 AM
KenPom has us as a 9 point favorite. I assume that is accounting for Richmond playing. If he doesn't I'd guess that bumps to 11 or 12.

Should be a great environment.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 26, 2024, 09:39:50 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 26, 2024, 09:36:35 AM
KenPom has us as a 9 point favorite. I assume that is accounting for Richmond playing. If he doesn't I'd guess that bumps to 11 or 12.

Should be a great environment.

SRO tickets being sold
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: We R Final Four on January 26, 2024, 09:47:21 AM
Need Jop and Stevie to play tough D and box out. Let Oso expose Hall's bigs.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 26, 2024, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 26, 2024, 09:47:21 AM
Need Jop and Stevie to play tough D and box out. Let Oso expose Hall's bigs.

Went up 10 very early on them in Newark. Couldn't buy a 3 for a while.

Hit some open ones and get Tyler creating downhill and we should win by that 9+.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: We R Final Four on January 26, 2024, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 26, 2024, 09:50:31 AM
Went up 10 very early on them in Newark. Couldn't buy a 3 for a while.

Hit some open ones and get Tyler creating downhill and we should win by that 9+.
We have gone up 10 on plenty of teams, only to lose that lead. Don't box out and rebound and we will lose a close one.
To depend on this team to make their threes is a tall task. 
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Jay Bee on January 26, 2024, 10:38:02 AM
Injury updates:

Chase - shoulder flew out of the effin socket
Sean - ACL ripped, had surgery
Kadary - "some soreness going on in his body" —- wtf?
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 26, 2024, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 26, 2024, 10:21:23 AM
We have gone up 10 on plenty of teams, only to lose that lead. Don't box out and rebound and we will lose a close one.
To depend on this team to make their threes is a tall task.

'Some open ones' isn't much of an ask. Especially after going 15 for 32 or whatever it was on Wednesday. Also had a 6 for 9 half against Creighton.

This team can shoot against anyone. Just a mystery how it is so off sometimes. Make a decent portion of the open ones and I think we win running away on Saturday.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: BM1090 on January 26, 2024, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 26, 2024, 10:21:23 AM
We have gone up 10 on plenty of teams, only to lose that lead. Don't box out and rebound and we will lose a close one.
To depend on this team to make their threes is a tall task.

We've also been down 10 (or close to it) plenty of times and have had comebacks. Runs are normal in basketball.

We're going to smash them. I worry about this team when they don't have a good reason to motivate themselves. They've already lost to SHU, they are going to come out gunning.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 26, 2024, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 26, 2024, 10:38:02 AM
Injury updates:

Chase - shoulder flew out of the effin socket
Sean - ACL ripped, had surgery
Kadary - "some soreness going on in his body" —- wtf?

Crazy rumor out there is that The Hall Enterprises were late on their NIL notes.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 26, 2024, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: BM1090 on January 26, 2024, 11:30:22 AM
We've also been down 10 (or close to it) plenty of times and have had comebacks. Runs are normal in basketball.

We're going to smash them. I worry about this team when they don't have a good reason to motivate themselves. They've already lost to SHU, they are going to come out gunning.

There was something that was released not too long ago that showed Marquette was one of the best in the country at going on runs but not allowing them. https://twitter.com/EvanMiya/status/1748416953130353150?t=cBfPIEHNoGZ2XRf2W7pQ8g&s=19

Opening as a 9.5 point favorite tomorrow.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: We R Final Four on January 26, 2024, 01:35:12 PM
I would love nothing more than to smash them. We will see.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 26, 2024, 01:44:24 PM
Has there been any updates on Richmond? Was he sick? Injured? Suspended?
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 26, 2024, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 26, 2024, 01:44:24 PM
Has there been any updates on Richmond? Was he sick? Injured? Suspended?

He was sore

And doesnt know where
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Its DJOver on January 26, 2024, 01:48:20 PM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 26, 2024, 01:44:24 PM
Has there been any updates on Richmond? Was he sick? Injured? Suspended?

SH boards seemed to think back injury. Unknown if it's related to the back injury he has last year. Current status seems to be unknown.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Mu8891 on January 26, 2024, 02:02:28 PM
He's not " sore " ... obviously there's more to it.

Given the revenge factor... I think MU wins by 10 ish tomorrow
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: tower912 on January 26, 2024, 02:13:12 PM
In the off chance there is ever an official reason given, my money will be on some version of...after landing awkwardly on his back while playing 51 minutes against Creighton, his back tightened up.   Having missed time last season with back issues, SH decided to shut him down until his back loosened up.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: MuggsyB on January 26, 2024, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 26, 2024, 02:02:28 PM
He's not " sore " ... obviously there's more to it.

Given the revenge factor... I think MU wins by 10 ish tomorrow

If we attack like I've discussed all season we should have no issues whatsoever.  Sometimes we think too much about these things.  Those who attack, will not crack in these scenarios. 
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 26, 2024, 02:31:50 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 26, 2024, 02:17:14 PM
If we attack like I've discussed all season we should have no issues whatsoever.  Sometimes we think too much about these things.  Those who attack, will not crack in these scenarios.

Do you forsee a lot of darkness for Hall tomorrow?
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: tower912 on January 26, 2024, 02:35:09 PM
It is safe to say he would like to put out the Hall light.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Jay Bee on January 26, 2024, 02:48:49 PM
Hopefully kadary is just a Hall monitor tomorrow
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 26, 2024, 03:22:27 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 26, 2024, 11:36:34 AM
Crazy rumor out there is that The Hall Enterprises were late on their NIL notes.

   he probably has a family to feed, i'na?
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: chicagowarrior on January 26, 2024, 04:14:45 PM
I love it ..sold out and SRO being sold...incredible!!
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: MuggsyB on January 26, 2024, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 26, 2024, 02:31:50 PM
Do you forsee a lot of darkness for Hall tomorrow?

Prediction?

DARKNESS

:)
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: MarquetteDano on January 26, 2024, 06:56:13 PM
Want to win like everyone.. esp that I am going with a large crowd tomorrow.

However, can we avoid getting injured vs  a team hell bent on injurying the other team?
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 26, 2024, 07:22:12 PM
Seton Hall sucks
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 26, 2024, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 26, 2024, 02:02:28 PM
He's not " sore " ... obviously there's more to it.

Given the revenge factor... I think MU wins by 10 ish tomorrow

He's playing. The NIL check cleared
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Johnny B on January 26, 2024, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 26, 2024, 07:22:12 PM
Seton Hall sucks
More than your posts somehow 
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 26, 2024, 08:34:54 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on January 26, 2024, 08:30:27 PM
More than your posts somehow

Thanks, eeyore
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: withoutbias on January 26, 2024, 08:49:29 PM
Johnathan should probably stay off Scoop Friday and Saturday nights.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 27, 2024, 06:51:07 AM
Biggest game of the year today.  Go Warriors! Eviscerate the Pirates with violence and passion.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: tower912 on January 27, 2024, 06:56:37 AM
Evil.  Must be destroyed.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: MuggsyB on January 27, 2024, 06:59:44 AM
I know everyone is going to be crushed but I'm not gonna be able to post much in the game thread today.  Hopefully someone accurately describes our pinpoint accuracy and destruction of the Hall. 
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: tower912 on January 27, 2024, 07:07:07 AM
Hopefully you are doing something that brings you joy.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 27, 2024, 07:13:12 AM
https://haslametrics.com/preview.php?yr=&tid1=5123&tid2=561&neut=0
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: MuggsyB on January 27, 2024, 07:24:10 AM
Quote from: tower912 on January 27, 2024, 07:07:07 AM
Hopefully you are doing something that brings you joy.

Unfortunately that will not be the case but ty Tower.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: panda on January 27, 2024, 08:07:16 AM
Quote from: Johnny B on January 26, 2024, 08:30:27 PM
More than your posts somehow

10 out of 10
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Newsdreams on January 27, 2024, 08:11:47 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 27, 2024, 06:51:07 AM
Biggest game of the year today.  Go Warriors! Eviscerate the Pirates with violence and passion.
Take them to darkness
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: willie warrior on January 27, 2024, 08:16:21 AM
This game should be the tell if MU has turned the corner this season. If they have it should be at least a 10 point win.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 27, 2024, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: tower912 on January 27, 2024, 07:07:07 AM
Hopefully you are doing something that brings you joy.
Muggsy will be rescuing some endangered manatees and launching nuclear missiles at unsuspecting civilians?
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 27, 2024, 08:25:21 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on January 27, 2024, 08:16:21 AM
This game should be the tell if MU has turned the corner this season. If they have it should be at least a 10 point win.

What if they win by 9?
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 27, 2024, 08:31:38 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on January 27, 2024, 08:16:21 AM
This game should be the tell if MU has turned the corner this season. If they have it should be at least a 10 point win.

Looking forward to your positive & inspiring posts in the game thread, especially when Marquette has a rough stretch of play.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 27, 2024, 08:40:14 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 27, 2024, 08:25:21 AM
What if they win by 9?

Duh! Then obviously we haven't turned the corner.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: wisblue on January 27, 2024, 08:42:03 AM
Based on Pomeroy's projections, MU's win percentage of 79% is the highest of any of the remaining 12 games except for the two against Georgetown and DePaul.

A loss today might not be quite as damaging as the Butler loss, but it would be in the same neighborhood.

The DePaul game exposed how vulnerable MU will be if they get into foul trouble. They were able to maintain a comfortable lead against the Demons with Jones and Joplin sitting more than planned because of foul problems. They might not be so lucky against a better team.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: NCMUFan on January 27, 2024, 08:58:02 AM
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 27, 2024, 08:11:47 AM
Take them to darkness
Dayton Sidewinders - Great band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmuYBci7fTQ
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 27, 2024, 09:44:51 AM
Quote from: wisblue on January 27, 2024, 08:42:03 AM
Based on Pomeroy's projections, MU's win percentage of 79% is the highest of any of the remaining 12 games except for the two against Georgetown and DePaul.

A loss today might not be quite as damaging as the Butler loss, but it would be in the same neighborhood.

The DePaul game exposed how vulnerable MU will be if they get into foul trouble. They were able to maintain a comfortable lead against the Demons with Jones and Joplin sitting more than planned because of foul problems. They might not be so lucky against a better team.

It's a game they should win if they are as good of a team as most think they are, including me.  They simply don't lose this game if they have the talent to make a second weekend tournament appearance let alone a final four.  At home in front of a sold out crowd.  This should be a win.  Hope the building is loud and the atmosphere helps propel this team from the jump.   Should be a fun one!
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: wisblue on January 27, 2024, 09:51:00 AM
I'm quite confident the atmosphere will be good.

Hopefully the players will respond to it in a positive way. Shaka made a comment after the Creighton game that the team was almost too juiced up and that led to a bad start. (I wonder if Dodds heard that comment because he seems to think that a jacked up team and crowd, especially on a Senior Night, is an unequivocal positive).

Now that they are down two players they have to be careful about not burning up too much fuel too quickly.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Jay Bee on January 27, 2024, 10:18:32 AM
SRO crowd creates a difficult shooting background and we fail to connect on threes. Fml
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 27, 2024, 10:54:29 AM
Just saw Richmond didn't even make the trip to Milwaukee - something not good is going on there.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: 79Warrior on January 27, 2024, 10:56:45 AM

Protect the home court!! Road wins are tough to get. I don't care how many points we win by.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: MuMark on January 27, 2024, 10:57:20 AM
SH is the 7th best offensive rebounding team in the country.......they got 50% of their misses back against us in the last game.......we lost even though we dominated the turnover battle.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 27, 2024, 11:05:30 AM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 27, 2024, 10:54:29 AM
Just saw Richmond didn't even make the trip to Milwaukee - something not good is going on there.

NIL check didn't clear
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: MuMark on January 27, 2024, 11:08:27 AM
Oh oh

https://twitter.com/bensteelemjs/status/1751290675604168997?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 27, 2024, 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 27, 2024, 10:54:29 AM
Just saw Richmond didn't even make the trip to Milwaukee - something not good is going on there.

Wow.

Sounds an awful lot like he's holding himself out when you connect some dots.

Brutal loss for the Hall.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 27, 2024, 11:15:36 AM
UPDATE:

Kam Jones showed up to the arena in a walking boot after an ankle injury in practice.

He is out on the court trying to give it a go.

Per Benny Steele.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Jay Bee on January 27, 2024, 11:19:29 AM
Scandal Hall
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: CountryRoads on January 27, 2024, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 27, 2024, 11:15:36 AM
UPDATE:

Kam Jones showed up to the arena in a walking boot after an ankle injury in practice.

He is out on the court trying to give it a go.

Per Benny Steele.

Norman being hit with an avalanche of opportunity.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 27, 2024, 11:23:07 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 27, 2024, 11:15:36 AM
UPDATE:

Kam Jones showed up to the arena in a walking boot after an ankle injury in practice.

He is out on the court trying to give it a go.

Per Benny Steele.

It appears that Kam is pretty hobbled. Rotation might be down to 7 or 7.5.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 27, 2024, 11:35:20 AM
Kam is starting.

I've heard Dwyane Wade say multiple times throughout his career that he played better when he was sick because it slowed him down the perfect amount to focus. Maybe the same can be true for Kam. Maybe he'll bust out of his slump because the injury will cause him to slow down a bit.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: We R Final Four on January 27, 2024, 11:42:53 AM
Yeah.....Kam jogging very gingerly on it. Looks painful
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: MuMark on January 27, 2024, 04:01:18 PM
https://twitter.com/davee_8/status/1751338752360784000?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: CountryRoads on January 27, 2024, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: MuMark on January 27, 2024, 04:01:18 PM
https://twitter.com/davee_8/status/1751338752360784000?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

Glad it's not our problem.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 27, 2024, 04:13:08 PM
Another reason to avoid the portal.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 27, 2024, 04:19:44 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 27, 2024, 04:13:08 PM
Another reason to avoid the portal.

Not avoid but be very careful with. 
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 27, 2024, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 27, 2024, 04:19:44 PM
Not avoid but be very careful with.

That's fair but I think now even being careful can still bite you in the ass.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: MU82 on January 27, 2024, 04:31:05 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 27, 2024, 11:35:20 AM
Kam is starting.

I've heard Dwyane Wade say multiple times throughout his career that he played better when he was sick because it slowed him down the perfect amount to focus. Maybe the same can be true for Kam. Maybe he'll bust out of his slump because the injury will cause him to slow down a bit.

Difference between being sick and not being able to move on a bum ankle/foot/knee/hip.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: nyg on January 27, 2024, 04:52:32 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 27, 2024, 04:13:08 PM
Another reason to avoid the portal.

Must have missed something here, Richmond has been at SH for three years. Not like he just arrived.

Has he had any type of past issues at SH in those three years?  He was some what disappointing in his first year, but has come on strong and is a candidate for BE POY.  No one knows why he is not playing now.

What's the reason to avoid the portal in this case? 
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: NCMUFan on January 27, 2024, 05:46:00 PM
Did he write a letter?
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 27, 2024, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 27, 2024, 04:28:33 PM
That's fair but I think now even being careful can still bite you in the ass.

Fair. I'm not saying to have a bunch of unrealistic requirements but I imagine Shaka will be more stringent than most.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: romey on January 27, 2024, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: nyg on January 27, 2024, 04:52:32 PM
Must have missed something here, Richmond has been at SH for three years. Not like he just arrived.

Has he had any type of past issues at SH in those three years?  He was some what disappointing in his first year, but has come on strong and is a candidate for BE POY.  No one knows why he is not playing now.

What's the reason to avoid the portal in this case?
my thoughts as well.  What's the connection? Guy not paying for "suspect" reasons, so we should avoid the portal?
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 27, 2024, 08:14:25 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 27, 2024, 04:31:05 PM
Difference between being sick and not being able to move on a bum ankle/foot/knee/hip.

Ya, but to be fair no one knew how bad it was until we saw him. Kolek had arguably his best game on the road at Illinois with a bum ankle.

Kam also didn't miss a shot today.
Title: Re: Seton Hall
Post by: Newsdreams on January 28, 2024, 09:30:34 AM
Quote from: NCMUFan on January 27, 2024, 05:46:00 PM
Did he write a letter?
Per source it was his mother
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