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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 07:50:23 PM

Title: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 07:50:23 PM
LFG!! 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 10, 2024, 07:51:39 PM
alright muggs!!  show em who's boss!!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 07:52:56 PM
Let's Goo Marquette!   Control the tempo!  Go go go!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: wisblue on January 10, 2024, 08:00:47 PM
Sounds like we'll be finding out in a few weeks if Ross can come back this season.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:01:06 PM
Get the Marquette game on!  WTH?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 08:02:31 PM
Hopefully this doesn't go ot
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: The Sultan on January 10, 2024, 08:03:16 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:01:06 PM
Get the Marquette game on!  WTH?


Just enjoy watching future BE member SLU.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 08:02:31 PM
Hopefully this doesn't go ot

Yes.  Why is this freaking game even on?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:04:22 PM
When has a college basketball game ever been ended in 2 hours?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 08:05:40 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:04:12 PM
Yes.  Why is this freaking game even on?

St Louis been going medieval
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:06:53 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:04:22 PM
When has a college basketball game ever been ended in 2 hours?

It's rare.  Please God let this end within 4 mins.   

Sweet fking Jesus. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 08:07:41 PM
Muggs what you sippin on?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 10, 2024, 08:07:51 PM
Yes, he is.   We should all remember the great commandment and the beatitudes.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:07:55 PM
MU hasn't started yet.  Listening to Homer. Starting line up
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:08:47 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:06:53 PM
It's rare.  Please God let this end within 4 mins.   

Sweet fking Jesus.

Worst thing is it's on CBS Sports so they can't even put the game on another channel.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:08:47 PM
Worst thing is it's on CBS Sports so they can't even put the game on another channel.

Totally and beyond inexcusable. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:10:53 PM
Unreal.  Have to download the app. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:11:07 PM
Man the last 4 minutes is taking half an hour. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 10, 2024, 08:11:47 PM
Pretty high
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 10, 2024, 08:11:54 PM
The announcer thinks it is a 4 point game.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MUUWUWM on January 10, 2024, 08:12:14 PM
Jesus Christ, Mugsy, just calm down
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:13:04 PM
Game on - radio Jop with a foul
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:13:04 PM
Game on - radio Jop with a foul

Jolp
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:15:40 PM
Nice to get Kam off early. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 08:16:43 PM
Kam with 3 layups?
Prayers answered!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 08:17:51 PM
Maybe the best thing that happened to the anemic offense was us not being able to watch?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:19:08 PM
Was that a foul on us?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:19:41 PM
That's Jop's second foul.  Ugh

Who will we bring in? Ben?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:19:47 PM
Wow.  Kansas lost to UCF and Tenn lost to Miss St. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 08:19:57 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:19:08 PM
Was that a foul on us?

Called it on Jolp, which seems ridiculous. Heavy dose of Benny coming
Maybe some Zaide?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 08:20:00 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:19:08 PM
Was that a foul on us?

Yeah, Jop was sleeping and got beat to the spot. Maybe Butler pushed him off, but Jop was all over him
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:19:41 PM
That's Jop's second foul.  Ugh

Damn. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 08:20:59 PM
Quote from: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:19:41 PM
That's Jop's second foul.  Ugh

Too bad, totally not engaged defensively. Hopefully we get some BG production
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 08:21:38 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:19:47 PM
Wow.  Kansas lost to UCF and Tenn lost to Miss St.
Ku has eeked out a few close ones to meh teams. They're no better than we are
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on January 10, 2024, 08:22:32 PM
Subs are in. If we lose, it's on Shaka.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:23:17 PM
Man.  Wide open threes need to be splashed. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 08:23:40 PM
Need Tyler to stay in it mentally. Would be nice to see a three or two go down
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 08:24:14 PM
What a pass Tyler!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:25:15 PM
Figures with their banked three.  Nice take from Kam. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 08:25:45 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:25:15 PM
Figures with their banked three.  Nice take from Kam.

Yeah, was going to say Tyler has given up two already, but that was a heave
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 08:25:49 PM
Nice passing from Oso so far. Banked 3s bug the sh*t out of me
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:26:20 PM
Need to keep going to the rim.....
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:26:23 PM
Congrats to Kam on reaching 1,000 points!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 10, 2024, 08:26:50 PM
My daughter called Tre Norman before Zaide. (She made me post this.)
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: oilcan on January 10, 2024, 08:26:56 PM
Kansas just lost to UCF  Purdue and Houston both lost yesterday. The mighty go down.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:28:08 PM
Still cant make wide open 3s

Like Ben if youre gonna give the other team free pts you cant miss wide open 3s too.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 08:29:33 PM
Kam's gotta little pep in his step. Let's see if it's contagious
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 08:29:48 PM
Go up with it
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 08:30:19 PM
Announcer said we are one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the country. Really?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:30:24 PM
We are absolutely cooking them in the paint. If we could shoot a lick wed be last years offense.

Meanwhile Butler is banking in 3s and Posh is hitting em.

Will there be 1 game this year where we are the team that blindly shoots out our ass? Preferably on the road.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:30:27 PM
A bit frustrating to only be up 4.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:30:53 PM
Keep driving to the rim and score and make them foul us.    Need more of that.   But someone.... Has to hit a three!   
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 08:31:07 PM
Quote from: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 08:30:19 PM
Announcer said we are one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the country. Really?

No, he said 2 point shooting.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: muhoops1 on January 10, 2024, 08:31:09 PM
Is Al Amadou (sp) hurt or ill? Not on bench.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:35:46 PM
0-9 from downtown.  All wide open. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 08:36:21 PM
Brutal
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:36:35 PM
Freaking brick city from three.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 08:36:40 PM
The bad awful shooting will be the death of this team. Comically bad.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 08:36:44 PM
mostly all open 3's..........0-9
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:37:08 PM
No need for Tyko to take a running floater 1 on 2. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:37:55 PM
This is absolutely insane

Kams shot is completely gone

We should be up about 15 right now but we can't make a single wide open shot.

Running perfect offense
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: WarriorDoc on January 10, 2024, 08:38:08 PM
Just incredulous at the shooting.  I don't understand how this is the same team that played in Maui.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 08:36:44 PM
mostly all open 3's..........0-9

When regression to the mean kicks in we'll smoke em!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Norm on January 10, 2024, 08:38:37 PM
0-8 from 3, 8-12 from 2 so far.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 08:39:02 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:37:08 PM
No need for Tyko to take a running floater 1 on 2.

I just don't get it. He also made such a lazy close out and let the guy go right by him. Something has to be going on, he's just not himself lately. Still early, so hopefully he takes over the game.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 08:39:05 PM
8 left, 0-8 from 3, in the single bonus.

Let's see how this goes. More than a few additional attempts from 3 in this half would seem off given the butler foul trouble
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 08:39:25 PM
The 3s will start falling soon
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:37:55 PM
This is absolutely insane

Kams shot is completely gone

We should be up about 15 right now but we can't make a single wide open shot.

Running perfect offense

100% correct.  All of Kam's have been rhythm catch and shoots.  Absolutely infuriating, he's a great shooter. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:39:51 PM
Quote from: Norm on January 10, 2024, 08:38:37 PM
0-8 from 3, 8-12 from 2 so far.

0-9. Why we should keep driving the rim!   
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 08:39:25 PM
The 3s will start falling soon

I'm hoping it's this season.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 10, 2024, 08:40:44 PM
Posh has more threes than MU.  ?-(
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: WarriorDoc on January 10, 2024, 08:38:08 PM
Just incredulous at the shooting.  I don't understand how this is the same team that played in Maui.

We couldnt shoot then either

We havent shot well all year. Somehow losing a 33% shooter from 3 has made our entire team an abomination on open 3s
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:44:29 PM
On the bright side

2 pt efficient Kam is back

Hes had that missing for a lot of this year too. Hes eviscerating Butler in the paint
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 08:44:39 PM
I'd love to see our percentage this season on unguarded 3s
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:43:11 PM
We couldnt shoot then either

We havent shot well all year. Somehow losing a 33% shooter from 3 has made our entire team an abomination on open 3s

If we just hit our average this would be a blow out already
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:44:45 PM
If we just hit our average this would be a blow out already

We are playing great thats whats frustrating.

These are wide open 3s and its game after game. Meanwhile other teams go Kobe against us.

Our Kobe moment this year is Sean hitting 3 in a game
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:46:43 PM
Keep pounding paint. These guys cant stop it
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: oilcan on January 10, 2024, 08:47:06 PM
Slow low scoring game. Can't make a shot for nothing. If I didn't have a cheerleader sitting on my lap I'd be bored as hell.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:47:52 PM
Quote from: oilcan on January 10, 2024, 08:47:06 PM
Slow low scoring game. Can't make a shot for nothing. If I didn't have a cheerleader sitting on my lap I'd be bored as hell.

We are on pace for like 80 pts without a 3....
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:48:03 PM
This goes beyond bad shooting.  These are WIDE OPEN catch and shoots.  Incredibly frustrating. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 08:48:43 PM
Finally
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 08:48:49 PM
Hallelujah Jolp.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:48:59 PM
Jop!!!!!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 08:49:13 PM
Jop! Didn't see him after SLU.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 08:50:37 PM
Letting butler hang around is a bad gameplan
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:50:43 PM
Something's off with Tyler - his threes aren't even close.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:51:41 PM
Getting caught with the B team in and no whistle is how 11 pt lead becomes 5
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:50:43 PM
Something's off with Tyler - his threes aren't even close.

It's bizarre.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 08:51:59 PM
been quite a while since we have seen kolek play this bad.......2 games in a row just terrible
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 08:52:07 PM
Kam 30? What you think?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:52:10 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:50:43 PM
Something's off with Tyler - his threes aren't even close.

I think he's 1 for his last 12?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 10, 2024, 08:52:25 PM
I've seen funeral processions with more energy than our crowd tonight
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 08:50:43 PM
Something's off with Tyler - his threes aren't even close.

A pissed off Tyler is good.  A frustrated Tyler is bad.  He seems frustrated last few games.   He's not going to get calls, so just calm down and shoot without thinking.   
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 08:52:07 PM
Kam 30? What you think?

Yes please.

Nice little he's got that dawg in him play by zaide, now make the freebies
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 08:53:08 PM
TK not so great on the defensive end as well. A couple of missed assignments tonight
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 08:53:26 PM
This team seems off for some reason, and it hasn't been just tonight.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 10, 2024, 08:54:29 PM
Zaide needs to be playing 20-25 minutes for this team.  Best athlete we've got and his presence will be felt if he gets to run for awhile.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 10, 2024, 08:54:36 PM
Quote from: oilcan on January 10, 2024, 08:47:06 PM
Slow low scoring game. Can't make a shot for nothing. If I didn't have a cheerleader sitting on my lap I'd be bored as hell.

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Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 10, 2024, 08:54:43 PM
I'd tell em no 3s until the 2nd half.

Close this half out at the basket.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 10, 2024, 08:54:29 PM
Zaide needs to be playing 20-25 minutes for this team.  Best athlete we've got and his presence will be felt if he gets to run for awhile.

Whose minutes he taking?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 10, 2024, 08:56:24 PM
Dumb foul, Oso
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 08:56:34 PM
See that update....everyone losing in top 5-6.  They're coming back to us. Need to win win win!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 08:57:09 PM
Another Oso foul way away from the basket.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MarquetteVol on January 10, 2024, 08:57:30 PM
I'm an optimist. I feel like this stretch and some adversity will be beneficial later in the season. Absolutely need to see Norman, Lowery and Amadou get some spot minutes in January.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 10, 2024, 08:54:29 PM
Zaide needs to be playing 20-25 minutes for this team.  Best athlete we've got and his presence will be felt if he gets to run for awhile.

Come on, man.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:57:55 PM
This team just does not have that extra gear right now

Its completely gone.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 08:58:02 PM
72 ...

Right.  This team is off .... Badly

And it starts w / Kolek.  He is AWFUL
Can't make a shot.  Slow.  Seems frustrated....
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:58:38 PM
Should be up about 25.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 08:59:11 PM
well we are winning.......yet the same frustrations with this team still appear to be very present

kolek is a shadow of what he was last year and beginning of this year........right now he's just a guy out there
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 08:59:39 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:57:55 PM
This team just does not have that extra gear right now

Its completely gone.
Meh.. if they shot a mediocre level from 3 in that half games over right now
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: forgetful on January 10, 2024, 08:59:44 PM
This is one heck of a team shooting slump. Especially in 1st halves.

And Kolek just doesn't look like himself lately. Seriously wondering if he has been battling/playing through an illness. He looks like a guy that is or has recently been sick.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:00:18 PM
Kolek looks horrendous right now and Saturday but its a little blown outta proportion

He was awesome prior to that.

Its been a brutal 1.5 games though
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:00:31 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 08:58:02 PM
72 ...

Right.  This team is off .... Badly

And it starts w / Kolek.  He is AWFUL
Can't make a shot.  Slow.  Seems frustrated....
I couldn't believe how dominant he looked in the Illinois game. Scoring ability has just fallen off
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:00:44 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 08:58:02 PM
72 ...

Right.  This team is off .... Badly

And it starts w / Kolek.  He is AWFUL
Can't make a shot.  Slow.  Seems frustrated....

He's had a brutal stretch.  It's very hard to comprehend what exactly is going on.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:58:38 PM
Should be up about 25.

Kam's doing his part, just need Tyler to wake up.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: nyg on January 10, 2024, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 08:46:43 PM
Keep pounding paint. These guys cant stop it

Tell Shaka that. 
Scoring at Will with drives and back doors, yet they keep on jacking threes. 1 for 12 now and Gold has hesitated on two open ones. Guess scared to hoist another up. But Shaka don't mind them shooting threes, even with team slumping there

All with Davis, their best player on bench and bunch of Butler turnovers.  Needed to take advantage of that.

Oh well, should be huge, huge lead, but second half no problem. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 10, 2024, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 08:55:24 PM
Whose minutes he taking?

He'd be my first sub for any of Kam, Stevie, or Jop.  The guy just plays with a suddenness and burst that none of our guys have, and he's got more length than any of them other Oso.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MattyWarrior on January 10, 2024, 09:03:08 PM
Everybody knows our game,change it up 1of12 from 3 is awful ,play some of the young guys
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on January 10, 2024, 09:04:32 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 08:58:38 PM
Should be up about 25.

Butler played horrible.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Milkshakes on January 10, 2024, 09:05:47 PM
This team feels so different.  Earlier in the season even in a loss I thought they were so fun to watch.  Tonight even up they look slow and not at all dynamic and not that fun to watch. TK does seems to be at the core of it but the whole team seems to be kinda just going through the motions. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on January 10, 2024, 09:06:33 PM
8% from beyond the arc. At this point it's become completely mental for the entire team. They're all over thinking it. Bring in a hypnotist. TRY ANYTHING.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: wisblue on January 10, 2024, 09:07:57 PM
Hopefully, Matta doesn't figure out that all he has to do is pack in his defense around the basket and watch Marquette clank three points shots.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:09:17 PM
Kolek ... looks sick , or like something else is on his mind .... Or he's not happy with a teammate ... something, cuz

Wow.  They look like this is a road game.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:09:46 PM
To me it looks like TyKo is pressing for some reason.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: Hoops92 on January 10, 2024, 09:05:47 PM
This team feels so different.  Earlier in the season even in a loss I thought they were so fun to watch.  Tonight even up they look slow and not at all dynamic and not that fun to watch. TK does seems to be at the core of it but the whole team seems to be kinda just going through the motions.

Oso and Mitchell are the only ones with consistent energy.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 09:11:34 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:09:17 PM
Kolek ... looks sick , or like something else is on his mind .... Or he's not happy with a teammate ... something, cuz

Wow.  They look like this is a road game.

Maybe he's just upset that Kam outed him for wearing boxers on Gameday
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:11:01 PM
Oso and Mitchell are the only ones with consistent energy.

Kam and Sean's "energy" is just fine.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:15:31 PM
This is insane. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:15:46 PM
Tyler's not even looking for his shot.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:15:51 PM
Sheesh.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:15:53 PM
What is this?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:16:01 PM
Stevie. You will never be an offensive wagon. But you gotta be able to back down a dwarf and score.


2 more missed 3s...
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on January 10, 2024, 09:16:44 PM
Embarrassing offense here. Stevie playing great.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:17:09 PM
This inept offense is absolutely insane. Crowd sounds like they would rather be dead.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:17:26 PM
What a garbage start.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:17:43 PM
Something is amiss.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: nyg on January 10, 2024, 09:17:55 PM
Come on... jeeeeeez

Four consecutive stops.
Then, blocked layup, missed layup, three missed threes and turnover.  Zero points. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: WarriorDoc on January 10, 2024, 09:18:11 PM
This team looks like a shell of its previous self.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Cream Biggums on January 10, 2024, 09:18:25 PM
Paging All American Tyler Kolek..
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 09:19:06 PM
this is absolutely unreal
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Viper on January 10, 2024, 09:19:30 PM
1-17 from 3. What?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:19:33 PM
1-18!!!!???

Beyond fking belief.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:19:44 PM
I am not kidding

If Kams entire families lives depended on him making a 3. They would all be dead.

That is how lost his shot is
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:20:04 PM
Embarrassing
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: WarriorDoc on January 10, 2024, 09:20:16 PM
I hope this is a low point of the season.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on January 10, 2024, 09:20:21 PM
Shaka gonna try to leave these guys out there the entire 2H today?

Let's roll with some subs, 4 of them
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:20:46 PM
This team is an absolutely embarrassment

Just put in the walk ons

Wild passes. Not even looking for the rebound?!??!?!

Take away the NIL
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:21:00 PM
Someone wake Tyler up.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:21:06 PM
Bad, getting worse. Rebound lying on the floor and no one gets it. Bizarre.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: wisblue on January 10, 2024, 09:21:09 PM
MU deserves to lose this game.

Just a pathetic display.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Norm on January 10, 2024, 09:21:16 PM
Danger Will Robinson, Danger!

Just a horrendous start to the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:21:26 PM
Quote from: WarriorDoc on January 10, 2024, 09:18:11 PM
This team looks like a shell of its previous self.

Butler had also played poorly.  I mean we literally cannot make a shot outside of 2 feet. I've never seen anything like this. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 09:21:32 PM
Stevie and Oso have energy.  That last scramble for the rebound on that last play stunk,  butler gets the ball and hits a three.   
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:21:45 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:20:46 PM
This team is an absolutely embarrassment

Just put in the walk ons

Wild passes. Not even looking for the rebound?!??!?!

Take away the NIL

Might be your dumbest post ever, which is quite an accomplishment.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:21:51 PM
We are playing at home right?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:21:59 PM
This has entered historic level bad. gotta be the first 3 pt shooting game in years. This is actually scary. Might have make one or 2 to beat this bad butler team
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:22:06 PM
1 for 18 ????


OMFG ... this is a train wreck

They let Butler play like $hit and still be in the game
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 10, 2024, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:19:44 PM
I am not kidding

If Kams entire families lives depended on him making a 3. They would all be dead.

That is how lost his shot is

What did you shoot during your D-1 career?  Kids in a slump and you make a dumb ass comment like this?  Grow up.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: ATWizJr on January 10, 2024, 09:22:16 PM
Very disappointing. Better be careful. This is about to get away from us.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:22:19 PM
I just don't get the lack of effort outside a couple guys
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on January 10, 2024, 09:22:51 PM
11.5 looking pretty easy right now
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:21:45 PM
Might be your dumbest post ever, which is quite an accomplishment.

They are not playing like an embarrassment??

They did not just stare at a ball laying there? They did not just throw 2 balls out of bounds?

Talk about stupid, stupid
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 10, 2024, 09:23:16 PM
This team is in a total funk.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 09:23:23 PM
No subs
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:23:57 PM
I think we'll be ok...we will win this game and Shaka will get them right for Nova. Just a weird bad shooting game
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:24:06 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 10, 2024, 09:22:13 PM
What did you shoot during your D-1 career?  Kids in a slump and you make a dumb ass comment like this?  Grow up.

Kam is like the 1 guy trying now.

It doesnt change the fact he hasnt been able to shoot for like 7 games. Thats just a fact

SHouldnt you be happy?? Maybe Zaide can take his minutes, dipsh it
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: AlienWarrior on January 10, 2024, 09:24:26 PM
No inside toughness once again..No banging bigs which will continue to hurt this squad. This is exposed when the three's aren't dropping
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:24:37 PM
Kam, let's go
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:24:51 PM
Maybe that wakes us up. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:22:58 PM
They are not playing like an embarrassment??

They did not just stare at a ball laying there? They did not just throw 2 balls out of bounds?

Talk about stupid, stupid

Read your post again, Biff.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:25:11 PM
Kam. Finally.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 09:26:15 PM
Thank God for Stevie
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:24:59 PM
Read your post again, Biff.

So I did state facts. Thank you.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:26:44 PM
Tough D and go to hoop.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MUeng on January 10, 2024, 09:27:03 PM
Pretty concerning here. Butler is trending up lately but holy moly we can't shoot from 3. This will be a very tight finish. Spread was 11.5?? Come on now...
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Milkshakes on January 10, 2024, 09:27:33 PM
Wow.  This is our court. This is Butler on our court.  Ugh...
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 09:26:15 PM
Thank God for Stevie

This
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: NolongerWarriors on January 10, 2024, 09:28:04 PM
Scoopers think this is a possible National Championship team, lol?

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:28:08 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:26:37 PM
So I did state facts. Thank you.

"Put the walk ons in"

"Get rid of NIL".

Good stuff, genius.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:28:30 PM
These guys are killing me.
Something's wrong and I don't know what it is.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 09:28:34 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 09:26:15 PM
Thank God for Stevie
Easy to get down when they are playing this way, but this is the right attitude. That dude is special. No quit.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 10, 2024, 09:28:41 PM
No togetherness. Lots of dribbling.

Get connected, get the win.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:28:08 PM
"Put the walk ons in"

"Get rid of NIL".

Good stuff, genius.

NIL is earned is it not? Genius. Playing time is earned. Is it not? Genius.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:29:06 PM
Are we playing a click too fast offensively?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:29:55 PM
We could be in real trouble. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:29:57 PM
Butler shooting 50% from 3
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:29:06 PM
Are we playing a click too fast offensively?

No. We need to make shots when wide open. And also stop just throwing the ball widly at the rim in the paint which we are doing this half.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:30:15 PM
Important two minutes
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:30:38 PM
This crowd is comatose

6-0 run since the Kam 3
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 10, 2024, 09:30:54 PM
Hiw was that not an over and back?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: wisblue on January 10, 2024, 09:30:59 PM
Blowout city.

Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:31:15 PM
Damn brutal start to the important two minutes, Jesus
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:31:19 PM
This team deserves to be booed off the court.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:31:23 PM
I hate it when Jop drives.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: WarriorDoc on January 10, 2024, 09:31:27 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:30:38 PM
This crowd is comatose

6-0 run since the Kam 3

Has this team done anything to excite you besides continue to turn the ball over and miss 3's?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:31:30 PM
Jop lmao.

Then Sean.

This team is mentally broken

Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: muhoops1 on January 10, 2024, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:30:38 PM
This crowd is comatose

6-0 run since the Kam 3
Clearly the crowd's fault. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on January 10, 2024, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:30:38 PM
This crowd is comatose

6-0 run since the Kam 3

Hard to get into the game when they keep throwing it away.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:31:40 PM
Next 3 min will tell
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:31:43 PM
You could see it coming. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: forgetful on January 10, 2024, 09:31:46 PM
Quote from: wisblue on January 10, 2024, 09:30:59 PM
Blowout city.

We are legit just bad right now. Not sure what's happened, but a lot of the team seems out of sorts.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 09:31:53 PM
this team is in complete shambles right now. so disappointing. fricking shaka has no answers
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Dish on January 10, 2024, 09:31:59 PM
This is something else.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 09:32:02 PM
Just getting our asses kicked at home
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: The Sultan on January 10, 2024, 09:32:02 PM
There is something fundamentally wrong here.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:32:07 PM
Quote from: muhoops1 on January 10, 2024, 09:31:34 PM
Clearly the crowd's fault.

Where at any time did I blame the crowd?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 10, 2024, 09:32:12 PM
Big yikes
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:32:20 PM
BE home win record?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:32:22 PM
This is some of the most disgraceful effortless basketball I've ever seen under Shaka. pathetic and embarrassing to the program. Wtf is this

Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:32:46 PM
Big time mentality issues
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:32:52 PM
Shaka looks clueless...

This is gonna be an L.  And they deserve to lose
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: drbchilds on January 10, 2024, 09:32:57 PM
I hope we make the NIT this year
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: ATWizJr on January 10, 2024, 09:33:21 PM
I'd say that we are gonna lose.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 09:33:22 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:31:19 PM
This team deserves to be booed off the court.
I'm not sure I get the attitude that you want to win more than the players do.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:33:26 PM
Can Stevie with legit move wake us up??

Crowd is begging.


NOPE
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Warriors4ever on January 10, 2024, 09:33:46 PM
I'm at the game. The team has been comatose this half. The crowd would love to have something to cheer about besides our one three for the half.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: WarriorDoc on January 10, 2024, 09:34:06 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:32:52 PM
Shaka looks clueless...

This is gonna be an L.  And they deserve to lose

When your All American PG looks like he doesn't want to play and your team is shooting as poor as they are from 3, I'm sure he is clueless.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: nyg on January 10, 2024, 09:34:30 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:29:06 PM
Are we playing a click too fast offensively?

No, just chucking threes and turnovers. Sean Jones and Gold have been terrible and lead faltered as soon as they came in.  Sean out now and Gold beat again on a dunk. 

Maybe one of Shaka's poorest game plan game so far.  Lots of time, but another missed three.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:34:33 PM
Quote from: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 09:33:22 PM
I'm not sure I get the attitude that you want to win more than the players do.

Have you been watching the same game as me?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 09:34:39 PM
this is wojo crap basketball right now
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on January 10, 2024, 09:34:42 PM
Quit shooting 3's!!! You can't make a damn one!!!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 09:35:20 PM
Jop doesn't fit on this team.

Too many defensive lapses. Lacks athleticism/quickness. Not good with the ball in his hands.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Warrior of Law on January 10, 2024, 09:35:40 PM
David Joplin has reached his ceiling. He's at best an average reserve.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: nyg on January 10, 2024, 09:34:30 PM
No, just chucking threes and turnovers. Sean Jones and Gold have been terrible and lead faltered as soon as they came in.  Sean out now and Gold beat again on a dunk. 

Maybe one of Shaka's poorest game plan game so far.  Lots of time, but another missed three.

We had the game plan. We attacked them like crazy in the paint to start.

Got a lead and turned into brick city which is causing us to rush every lay up now too.

The team is off. Not sure if there is something going on internally or what. But they are completely broke.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: forgetful on January 10, 2024, 09:36:11 PM
Really hard to win games when you can't score.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MattyWarrior on January 10, 2024, 09:36:24 PM
Kolek invisible man
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on January 10, 2024, 09:36:30 PM
What's the EGB count at for tonight?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 09:36:31 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:34:33 PM
Have you been watching the same game as me?
Yea. It's not been fun. I still guarantee the guys on the court want a win more than us on the couch.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:36:46 PM
It's mentally draining when you can't make a shot.  It's like we're demoralized by our ineptitude. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: SaveOD238 on January 10, 2024, 09:36:51 PM
If our only offense is at the rim, we can't win. We avoid mid range, which is an efficient strategy normally, but without it and without threes, we have a very limited offense
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:36:55 PM
I don't think Kolek wants to be on the court

He has no interest in this game...

WTF ????
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on January 10, 2024, 09:37:00 PM
That's a fault of recruiting or coaching, not one player has a mid range. So let MU just keep jacking up 3's
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: WarriorDoc on January 10, 2024, 09:34:06 PM
When your All American PG looks like he doesn't want to play and your team is shooting as poor as they are from 3, I'm sure he is clueless.

Kolek has had some good games but body of work the only All American he gets is preseason.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MUeng on January 10, 2024, 09:37:08 PM
I miss watching the Maui Marquette team
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:37:14 PM
They've been so disappointing lately that I wonder if there's something behind the scenes.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 09:37:50 PM
gold is worthless
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Cream Biggums on January 10, 2024, 09:38:06 PM
Kolek is having the most disappointing season of any Marquette player in the past 20 years. All Americans don't go missing in action for so many games like this
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:38:19 PM
Omfg!!  WTH is TyKo doing??
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:38:31 PM
What in the fu ck TK
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:38:52 PM
Not that it matters but butler shooting like 60% from 3
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:39:15 PM
3 for 17 from the field!!!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:39:22 PM
Now the question is "will we give up?"
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:39:28 PM
Never thought I'd say this but Kiley is killing us.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:38:52 PM
Not that it matters but butler shooting like 60% from 3

They're actually making their open looks.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:39:43 PM
THis is hilarious offense.

Down 10 and Oso out here trying to throw down tomahawk putbacks.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Milkshakes on January 10, 2024, 09:39:56 PM
What happened to the dynamic offense??  7 points in the half?!?!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on January 10, 2024, 09:40:05 PM
7 points in 10 minutes
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: forgetful on January 10, 2024, 09:40:11 PM
nm
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Viper on January 10, 2024, 09:40:22 PM
No inside game. Can't hit outside shots. Recipe for losing. Easy to figure out. (2-20 from 3)
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:40:31 PM
I think we are going to win the game, but I am not sure who is going to step up. Super disappointed in Tyler
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:40:59 PM
Stop launching 3s please just stop
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Farley36 on January 10, 2024, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:21:45 PM
Might be your dumbest post ever, which is quite an accomplishment.

Your inability to handle disappointment of these losses is one thing, but your need to lash out in anger at others really shows your fragility. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: nyg on January 10, 2024, 09:41:26 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:35:58 PM
We had the game plan. We attacked them like crazy in the paint to start.

Got a lead and turned into brick city which is causing us to rush every lay up now too.

The team is off. Not sure if there is something going on internally or what. But they are completely broke.

That's the point. Keep driving and stop the threes shot.  Kam had 17 points on layups. But coaches kept letting them shoot. I just don't get it, but again, Shaka's philosophy, always has been.

And another missed Kam three...and another missed Gold three...

7 points in 10 minutes.

Kolek and turnovers are ridiculous now. 

Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:41:31 PM
This is the craziest sht I've ever seen.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:42:23 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:40:59 PM
Stop launching 3s please just stop

I mean us at a crime to take even one 8 footer?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 09:42:49 PM
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:40:31 PM
I think we are going to win the game, but I am not sure who is going to step up. Super disappointed in Tyler
I don't think we will win unfortunately
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Farley36 on January 10, 2024, 09:42:52 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:24:59 PM
Read your post again, Biff.

You know when the "Biff" comes out that you're really struggling to keep it together.  We're getting close to the micro penis comments. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: NolongerWarriors on January 10, 2024, 09:43:22 PM
Marquette is poorly coached.

Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:43:46 PM
2 for 23.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 10, 2024, 09:44:14 PM
Sheesh, this team is so frustrating.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on January 10, 2024, 09:44:44 PM
They already have enough points to win
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 09:44:48 PM
They quite literally cannot put the ball in the basket

We can get 10 chances a possession, it wont go in
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:44:51 PM
Did you hear Saban retired?


8min
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Milkshakes on January 10, 2024, 09:44:56 PM
TK has 2 points????
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:45:21 PM
When Gold does get a rebound it's 50-50 it gets taken away.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:46:08 PM
Plenty of time. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 09:46:27 PM
Pack the lane.

Force TK and Kam to the right.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 09:46:31 PM
kam can't make anything inside now. our so called all american sitting on the bench........even if we somehow win this team has just been so disappointing
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:40:31 PM
I think we are going to win the game, but I am not sure who is going to step up. Super disappointed in Tyler
I'm trying not be super negative, but I wish I had your optimism. WIN? I'd be glad losing by less than 10. This team is certainly "off".
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:47:03 PM
This is like a one in 5 years level of offensive performance. It's unheard of. good thing a prayer lowery 3 went down
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: forgetful on January 10, 2024, 09:47:35 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 09:46:27 PM
Pack the lane.

Force TK and Kam to the right.

That's what teams are doing right now. Dare our guys to shoot. Take away driving lanes.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:47:54 PM
Miles ...

Yes.  Something is wrong behind the scenes... and it starts w / Kolek
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:48:03 PM
TyKo is 2 of his last 15 I believe. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: nyg on January 10, 2024, 09:48:10 PM
Quote from: Hoops92 on January 10, 2024, 09:44:56 PM
TK has 2 points????

Kolek is 1 for 8 from field, 3 turnovers, 2 points

Kam Jones is 1 for 8 from three. 

Joplin is 1 for 7 from three.

Gold is zip also, maybe 0 for 3.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:46:08 PM
Plenty of time.
Muggy the (manatee) optimist! Hope you're right but not getting the vibe.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 09:48:30 PM
Out of top 25 soon. What an amazing fall from grace
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on January 10, 2024, 09:48:34 PM
Quote from: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 09:46:51 PM
I'm trying not be super negative, but I wish I had your optimism. WIN? I'd be glad losing by less than 10. This team is certainly "off".

I'm not sure of that. Think we are just way overrated and there's not much of a talent difference in this league. We're a good team. Just not special as many (including myself) at one point thought.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: wisblue on January 10, 2024, 09:48:45 PM
Unfortunately Matta did figure out that all you have to do to beat MU is pack in your defense.

Make them jack up threes or drive into traffic and heave up desperation shots.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:48:53 PM
Quote from: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 09:46:51 PM
I'm trying not be super negative, but I wish I had your optimism. WIN? I'd be glad losing by less than 10. This team is certainly "off".

I'm teetering between hopeful and dumbfounded.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:50:02 PM
Anybody see Taylor Swift in the crowd?


6min
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: forgetful on January 10, 2024, 09:50:34 PM
Although there is still a lot of time left. We have shown nothing lately that suggests we can put a good 5 minutes together.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:51:19 PM
This is honestly painful to watch with Kolek. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:51:32 PM
Tyler is either sick, hurt, checked-out or all of the above.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:51:47 PM
OMG, TyKo is fried!
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:48:53 PM
I'm teetering between hopeful and dumbfounded.

I'm utterly dumbfounded Jump. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 10, 2024, 09:52:09 PM
Mind-boggling this is the same team from earlier in the season.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:52:17 PM
Welp, we just aren't interested in winning. I really thought we were close to turning the corner, but we can't put two solid offensive possessions together. Kolek is not good and is not interested in the game, hasn't been for awhile. Leave him out.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:52:18 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:51:19 PM
This is honestly painful to watch with Kolek.
Guy isn't even remotely close to all American. Lowery has been better
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: wisblue on January 10, 2024, 09:52:40 PM
So much for holding serve at home.



Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Cream Biggums on January 10, 2024, 09:53:22 PM
Unless he turns it around big time Tyler is not gonna get drafted. Does he come back or grad transfer?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:53:24 PM
This just isn't the year folks...
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: forgetful on January 10, 2024, 09:53:32 PM
That looked bad.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:53:34 PM
Damn, Sean doesn't look good. Not our night.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on January 10, 2024, 09:53:39 PM
Damn. Season is falling apart.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:53:53 PM
No words. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 09:54:02 PM
this season is turning into a complete trainwreck. one of the most anticipated season in a long time for this program......so disappointing
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on January 10, 2024, 09:54:16 PM
Play Norman
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 09:54:18 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 10, 2024, 09:48:34 PM
I'm not sure of that. Think we are just way overrated and there's not much of a talent difference in this league. We're a good team. Just not special as many (including myself) at one point thought.
Very possible. I don't know how to judge talent, but I certainly agree the talent seems missing tonight.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MUUWUWM on January 10, 2024, 09:54:43 PM
Well, maybe Monday we will  come out to play.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: nyg on January 10, 2024, 09:55:11 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:51:32 PM
Tyler is either sick, hurt, checked-out or all of the above.


Not hurt, but maybe ego got to him or something.  This rate he won't even make honorable mention BE.

Now Sean blows knee.  Season in jeopardy now.  Shame.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: forgetful on January 10, 2024, 09:55:15 PM
Game over. And I fear we lost Sean Jones for the season.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 09:55:37 PM
Favorite flavor at cheesecake factory is Turtle Sunday.


4min
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:55:47 PM
And ...

Now Sean may have blown out his knee
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 09:55:51 PM
This is an absolute meltdown.  There's no other way to see it. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: oilcan on January 10, 2024, 09:56:01 PM
There's a lot of time left. Go on a run. Play some defense here.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: BLWarrior91 on January 10, 2024, 09:56:11 PM
How is it possible to suck this bad?  This is beyond awful.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 09:56:28 PM
Turn out the lights, the party's over.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 09:56:35 PM
Quote from: oilcan on January 10, 2024, 09:56:01 PM
There's a lot of time left. Go on a run. Play some defense here.
huh?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 09:56:51 PM
Hard to figure out what has happened to the team.   Sean looked pretty hurt.    This could be a tough half of the season.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on January 10, 2024, 09:57:28 PM
I'm super happy I picked this for the first game I've seen in person in 2 years.  It's been a blast
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Pakuni on January 10, 2024, 09:57:59 PM
Coach needs to take some blame for this one.
And TK needs to be on a milk carton.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on January 10, 2024, 09:58:05 PM
This is literal rock bottom for this team. To play worse it'd have to be intentional. just very sad and depressing
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on January 10, 2024, 09:58:11 PM
I am a huge Shaka fan, I hope he can get the boys back on track. This is why he gets paid the big bucks, gotta keep the boys together and looking forward. This is an awful game, the worst I've seen in awhile, maybe this is the low point. Peace out, gonna go hug my kid.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MUUWUWM on January 10, 2024, 09:58:15 PM
Well, I don't post after a loss, u guys have at it.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 09:58:21 PM
has there been a pre-season all american who has been this bad......I mean it is only 2 games but this is some next level trash. this team has been so bad for weeks. some accountability is going to be needed
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Dish on January 10, 2024, 09:58:23 PM
Worst part is, I don't know if we've reached bottom yet.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:58:26 PM
Last year NC went from preseason
No 1 to the NIT ....  Hmmmm ...
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MUeng on January 10, 2024, 09:58:41 PM
Can we just cancel National Marq Day this year?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:58:46 PM
There has to be something seriously wrong going on behind the scenes.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Warrior of Law on January 10, 2024, 09:59:36 PM
This is one of the worst home performances in years. This team started sucking vs. St. Thomas and hasn't played 2 good halves since. They're not better than anyone by DePaul in the BE.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 09:58:26 PM
Last year NC went from preseason
No 1 to the NIT ....  Hmmmm ...

yea.........thats what I was thinking. Michigan St may have been most overrated team this year, but we are looking not far behind them
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 10, 2024, 09:58:23 PM
Worst part is, I don't know if we've reached bottom yet.

This is rock bottom. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 10:00:30 PM
That 3 wasn't close
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Farley36 on January 10, 2024, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 10:00:21 PM
This is rock bottom.

Wait until they lose to Depaul
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 10:00:30 PM
That 3 wasn't close

3 for 27. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: FairWeatherEagle on January 10, 2024, 10:01:34 PM
Hear it's going to be cold Monday

2min
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on January 10, 2024, 10:01:48 PM
They don't seem to care

( except for Stevie and Kam )
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: nyg on January 10, 2024, 10:02:03 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 10:01:30 PM
3 for 27. 

Call Shaka
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 10:02:08 PM
It is hard to miss 24 out of 27 threes.   
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 10:02:15 PM
That 3 by Kam was so far off line it was pathetic.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Judge Smails on January 10, 2024, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: Farley36 on January 10, 2024, 10:01:10 PM
Wait until they lose to Depaul
DePaul would beat us if we play like this
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 10:02:25 PM
Shaka's got his work cut out for him.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 10:05:04 PM
Lose like a grown up. No foul-a-thon. Beyond disappointing showing. Let's just end this thing.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on January 10, 2024, 10:05:20 PM
This is why you have to capitalize on the window when you have it.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Milkshakes on January 10, 2024, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 10, 2024, 09:58:46 PM
There has to be something seriously wrong going on behind the scenes.

I agree with this assessment. This team at this point last year had the walk ons dancing around on the sidelines with a domino box and a pitcher. Right now this team looks like they don't actually care. Connected?  Not so much. 
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: warriors141 on January 10, 2024, 10:06:14 PM
one of the most disappointing performances in quite some time, especially given the expectations of this team
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 10:06:49 PM
How can you not jam that?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: nyg on January 10, 2024, 10:08:33 PM
MU lost this game with their best player scoring four points, two until last minutes on free throws.  Portal guy, like most of Butler.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: TheREALwrk on January 10, 2024, 10:08:37 PM
Lmao you probably don't have an athletic bone in your body bro, STFU 😂

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 10:06:49 PM
How can you not jam that?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 10:09:10 PM
Has Kolek discovered drugs?
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2024, 10:10:25 PM
We have not lost two in a row in a long time
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: ParksPop on January 10, 2024, 10:10:53 PM
Rough.
Title: Re: MU/Butler Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 10, 2024, 10:11:14 PM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2024, 10:09:10 PM
Has Kolek discovered drugs?

If he did, it sure as heck is not an upper
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