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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MUfan12 on January 08, 2024, 11:31:13 AM

Title: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: MUfan12 on January 08, 2024, 11:31:13 AM
From this post- https://heatcheckcbb.com/ncaa-basketball-uncs-defensive-uptick-doubts-about-texas-highlight-jan-8-rauf-report/

I knew the offense was worse, but holy balls those numbers are ugly.

(https://heatcheckcbb.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Marquettes-splits-768x166.jpg)
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 08, 2024, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 08, 2024, 11:31:13 AM
From this post- https://heatcheckcbb.com/ncaa-basketball-uncs-defensive-uptick-doubts-about-texas-highlight-jan-8-rauf-report/

I knew the offense was worse, but holy balls those numbers are ugly.

(https://heatcheckcbb.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Marquettes-splits-768x166.jpg)

A tourney team no matter what numbers you look at.

The difference is the teams they've played on the road are Illinois, UW-Madison, Providence, Seton Hall. Not Notre Dame, Northern Illinois, Rider, etc.

48th through 4 games on the road isn't that concerning to this point IMO.
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: MUfan12 on January 08, 2024, 11:38:35 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 08, 2024, 11:34:52 AM
A tourney team no matter what numbers you look at.

The difference is the teams they've played on the road are Illinois, UW-Madison, Providence, Seton Hall. Not Notre Dame, Northern Illinois, Rider, etc.

48th through 4 games on the road isn't that concerning to this point IMO.

I don't think anyone realistically thinks they won't make the the tourney.

It's not the ranking, it's the numbers that are problematic.
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: Mu8891 on January 08, 2024, 11:38:42 AM
12 - Thanks for the info

Those numbers are AWFUL.  I know lots of posters just think MU will
" turn it around " ... I'm not convinced.
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: BM1090 on January 08, 2024, 12:16:06 PM
I think it's fine to be concerned while also acknolwedging that there is a real possibility they figure it out. Last year it came early in the year with the back to back road wins vs SJU and Nova. This year it could come later or not at all.

If they go 2-2 in the next two road games with losses at Nova and SJU and wins vs Georgetown and DePaul, I won't be concerned. But they do need to figure out how to beat middle of the conference teams away from home by the end of the year. Different teams figure things out at different times. You can see the ceiling, they just need to reach it.

I'm encouraged that the defense is still top 25 away from home.
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 08, 2024, 12:37:22 PM
The entire Seton Hall team shot for 90 minutes+ before Saturday's start. Tyler was out by himself shooting for about 55. Sean joined him for 45. The rest of the team about 30 minutes with Stevie and then Kam out for 15 minutes. I suspect the later two were receiving leg treatments (yes, Kam is banged up).

I am not sure the philosophy on game day shoot arounds but I must say I was more surprised by Seton Hall's philosophy than Marquette's. The results, however, were counter to my surprise. I do know MU traveled in later Friday due to a community event with the Mayor.
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 08, 2024, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 08, 2024, 11:38:35 AM
I don't think anyone realistically thinks they won't make the the tourney.

It's not the ranking, it's the numbers that are problematic.

I don't think anyone thinks that either. Just pointing out that even at their worst against 4 good opponents on the road they are playing to the caliber of a bubble team.
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: Jay Bee on January 08, 2024, 01:23:19 PM
NBA lines, shooting backgrounds and senior days at opposing venues continue to ruin our program
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: Goose on January 08, 2024, 01:30:50 PM
Not that I really care, but I would assume two very good road performances would balance things out nicely. They have played four road games and three were against ranked teams in a tough environment. To be honest, those numbers only tell part of the story, imo.
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: 79Warrior on January 08, 2024, 01:32:40 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 08, 2024, 01:23:19 PM
NBA lines, shooting backgrounds and senior days at opposing venues continue to ruin our program

Appears you are channeling Dodds.
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: Mu8891 on January 08, 2024, 04:03:54 PM
I know they were at an event w / the mayor ( and co. Exec apparently).  It was pretty private.

A. What was the point of this ?
B.  How late did they get in ?

Anyone know ?
Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: Newsdreams on January 08, 2024, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on January 08, 2024, 04:03:54 PM
I know they were at an event w / the mayor ( and co. Exec apparently).  It was pretty private.

A. What was the point of this ?
B.  How late did they get in ?

Anyone know ?
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Title: Re: Home/Neutral/Road Splits
Post by: MU82 on January 08, 2024, 09:02:06 PM
Quote from: Goose on January 08, 2024, 01:30:50 PM
Not that I really care, but I would assume two very good road performances would balance things out nicely. They have played four road games and three were against ranked teams in a tough environment. To be honest, those numbers only tell part of the story, imo.

Yep, the numbers aren't very meaningful without context. How do they compare with other teams playing similar schedules?
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