LFG!!!!!!!!!!!! Time for our A game and a solid W.
Let's Gooo Marquette! Play tough D tonight. Let's win this one!
Time to get the defense of the Big East title off to a good start.
Kim English is evil and must be destroyed
Looking forward to Shaka's defensive matchups.
With Mitchell out, who I presumed would have guarded Carter, that means probably Kam Jones on him.
Who has assignment on Hopkins?? Again, just presuming but has to be Joplin, right? Should be interesting, Hopkins the key. Ross will start and he has tendency to reach in fouls, like Sean Jones. Ross better not get in foul trouble, heck if any starters get in foul trouble...... Enjoy the game.
Kolek 21/6/10.
Let's get a W!
Let's get a good strong start..... Goooooo Marquette!
I would like an early barrage from the Warriors. Take the lead early and never look back.
Why is Oso doubling there?
Jop dribbling is incredibly stressful.
Ick
When did the 3 second call change to 5?
Gotta be a team effort on the boards.
Let's go now! I'm a bit concerned with the rebounding and defense.
Anyone else want a 25 point beat down baaaaad?
Hate those white barbecue boomer dad shoes these guys wear with dark uniforms. Yuck
Excellent first 4 Minutes
Need to get position for rebounding. We gone see some subs now?
Get Oso touches.
That Joplin flop was cringey
Damn. Gotta finish that.
What in the world is Ross doing there. just run offense
Subs not working....
Very concerned with the shots Prov is getting.
It wasn't over Ben Gold because he was blown past
Jesus. Wake up Oso! Where's the energy??
Kolek might need to have a Markus Howard v Providence game
Big guys got to wake up!!
Not going to get any calls there. Refs letting Providence hammer and calling us tight.
God were small. Just no one to match up with Hopkins when osos on the other big
Need to control tempo.... Dang
Physicality is high this game.
Providence looks quicker and stronger then MU
Quote from: Fred Garvin on December 19, 2023, 07:54:24 PM
Big guys got to wake up!!
Yes. This. Need them on both ends to get tougher
Not a good 4 mins. Very out of control other than TyKo on both ends of the floor. Playing a click too fast and not doing anything to make things difficult for them defensively.
We're not winning this game if they are going to let PC foul without calls.
Need stops and need to run havoc and create some Prov turnovers...
Focus Oso!!
JOP!!!
How many times are they going to give up a 3ft shot at the end of a possession?
Lame fking call there on Oso.
Need some threes to start dropping for us!
Offensive foul. Move on.
Not good Ben Gold yet
Got burned by Hopkins, then over back foul, then watched as ball went out without grabbing. Eight point swing while he was in.
MU started to get three happy and knew rebounding an issue.
PU get wide open threes since MU doubling again and not closing in. Have to adjust.
Let the ref issues begin....
That was on Hopkins right?
Bshit.
Two terrible turns. Wake the F up!!!
Wow they are turning us - we need to crank up the D and get sme stops. Then capitalize on them. Dang. We are not controlling the tempo. We need to. Starting.....now! Go Marquette!
Very sloppy start.
Providence really fired up. This is what it's like being the game everyone circles. Ain't going to be easy.
Less dribbling offensively and better ball movement. Get everyone involved. Chase needs to look up score more.
They get away with extreme physicality and Marquette gets called for brush fouls.
Could be an uphill battle all night.
It's weird when Kolek and Oso aren't running their 2 man game. It's my fav thing and some games they don't run it
P winning the TO Steal battle.
1-6 from distance isn't gonna get it Dome. Gotta get the trifecta on track.
Joplin doing a good job on Hopkins
Stop falling down Jop.
Looks like the refs are gonna let Hopkins play bully ball tonite.
MU needs more from Ross.
Road games in Big East are hard to win.
If Kam shoots that push shot one more time I'd make him sit.
Was that a foul on Chase?
Oh in ability to shoot is going to clearly be a year long issue its not a small sample anymore.
Also, Kams last two shots in the paint have been horrendous thats not like him to rush those little push shot floaters
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 19, 2023, 08:18:26 PM
Oh in ability to shoot is going to clearly be a year long issue its not a small sample anymore.
Also, Kams last two shots in the paint have been horrendous thats not like him to rush those little push shot floaters
He's playing too fast.
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 19, 2023, 08:16:08 PM
Road games in Big East are hard to win.
Any road game against a decent team is hard. The top ten ranking just doesn't seem to mean Jack on these road games.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 19, 2023, 08:18:26 PM
Oh in ability to shoot is going to clearly be a year long issue its not a small sample anymore.
Also, Kams last two shots in the paint have been horrendous thats not like him to rush those little push shot floaters
Think Kam is thinking the weight is in his shoulders. We need to control the pace and we are not. We are rushing our offense and not finding the best shots. Need to calm down.
Quote from: Afroman on December 19, 2023, 08:15:51 PM
MU needs more from Ross.
Ross? How about Oso, he has one dunk and one rebound. MU not gonna win if that continues. And he loses the ball after a great defensive stand.
Great steal
The TV production guys for MU games must preset the graphics with the worst shooters on the opposing team because they'll shoot lights out against MU
idiotic foul by Jop.
Quote from: Daniel on December 19, 2023, 08:20:43 PM
Think Kam is thinking the weight is in his shoulders. We need to control the pace and we are not. We are rushing our offense and not finding the best shots. Need to calm down.
Ive also missed a lot of this half so I cant comment fully
But this game is a lot like Wisco(less exaggerated) and UCLA first halfs. We can string together stops and scores.
Now Jop fouls the 3 shooter.
Every time we score we give up a bucket back. When we get stops we dont score.
How many times will MU have the ball slip out of their hands tonight?
Man, Chase is gonna have to start making some threes.
Terrible. Total loss of ficus and tenacity. Very upset.
OMG. Make a goddamn wide open 3.
Kolek needs to shoot. We cant keep relying on guys who cant shoot to hit wide open shots its clearly not something anyone but Kam, TK and Jop can do.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on December 19, 2023, 08:25:56 PM
Man, Chase is gonna have to start making some threes.
Wide freaking open.
STOOPID foul by Joplin ..
Feel like the ceiling for this team is high but the floor is low and this team can be very inconsistent and fluctuate between the two extremes.
Critical 2 mins.
And some of you think Gold can play center next year really
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 19, 2023, 08:25:33 PM
How many times will MU have the ball slip out of their hands tonight?
Their court is always wet with the ice rink under it. Maybe it messes with the ball too
Reffing is out of hand!
Get Ross out. He is stinking it up
Way too out of control.
So the officials are going for SOTG?
Typical BS at the Dunk. You hack enough, and figure the refs won't call everything.
Providence seems to be getting the benefit of the whistles.
We are quite literally incapable of scoring consistently against any team with a D.
Once again we get a stop and a chance to get momentum back and it leads to another CHase miss on a wild drive at end of shot clock.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 19, 2023, 08:27:41 PM
And some of you think Gold can play center next year really
now now, just enjoy the ride this season. Shame on you for looking ahead!!
Hope we can rally second half
It would be nice if the Warriors could get a call.
Rossis hurt looks like
This is the crap that happens when you don't call fouls. Ross got murdered twice and is now hurt.
Get Ross out. He is stinking it up
Jesus. Absolute disaster. That looks like a serious injury.
Everyone outside of the man three guys suck.....
thats all.
MU is just not a legit top 10 team.
Definitely getting it handed to them tonight!
Chase is killing us and now himself driving like a maniac. Move the damn ball.
Now Chase injured. Dang. He is playing out of control but this is very bad
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 08:30:40 PM
Jesus. Absolute disaster. That looks like a serious injury.
Sprained my ankle pretty bad once on almost the exact same type of thing.
Quote from: Daniel on December 19, 2023, 08:31:17 PM
Now Chase injured. Dang. He is playing out of control but this is very bad
I think that might've been an achilles.
He stepped on the defenders foot on his plant step.
After Kolek, Oso, and Kam Jones, MU has very little talent.
It's easy to make the extra pass when you are playing 5 on 4 dumbass
Hack-a-Ross and no call. The Big East office needs to make a call to the officials' locker room at halftime.
Oso and TK have touched the ball like 7 times total in the final 6 minutes of the half
They have 0 shots
I think Chase has taken like 7. What are we doing??
Just brutal
The players not named TyKo, Oso or Kam are really bad.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 19, 2023, 08:31:42 PM
I think that might've been an achilles.
Man if so that's it. I had a torn Achilles and it still hurts decades later
Quote from: willie warrior on December 19, 2023, 08:30:34 PM
Get Ross out. He is stinking it up
He took himself out with a one on three drive to the lane. He won't be back after that maneuver.
If we don't have sloppy turnovers ...D is decent
Lol. Now they call the foul.
The other team has better players than we do. Tyko needs to take control to have a chance in second half
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 19, 2023, 08:29:42 PM
Hope we can rally second half
I don't see it tnite. Prov is good. Should be ranked. This one has the feel of a 15 pt loss.
Looks like a pretty good ankle roll, doubt he comes back tonight. Damn. Marq just getting punched in the face tonight. Theme for the year though. They will get everyone's best shot in league play and this is not a good start
Quote from: TFlegend on December 19, 2023, 08:32:26 PM
The players not named TyKo, Oso or Kam are really bad.
100% true
Quote from: TFlegend on December 19, 2023, 08:32:26 PM
The players not named TyKo, Oso or Kam are really bad.
I support this theory.
Ok ...
This may change over the course of the year, but MU is really not a top 5 / 10 team
Way too inconsistent
Multiple guys that can't shoot
The rebounding is awful
Jop has been terrible
And ... so far ... they are clearly not ready to take every teams best shot.
We have a leader in the dumbest foul of the year category
This is a train wreck. WTF is happening??
Could they play any worse?
Kam is stinking up the joint! Learn how to make a damn free throw!!!
unnatural carnal knowledge this ducking game. Wth. Whatever glad we won't be top ten next week. Gotta lower the expectations
1 and 1.....miss
Foul the 3 point shooter then lol
This team isnt the same as last year. This is just like Wisconsin. Why even get off the plane if youre mentally not gonna show up
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 08:34:15 PM
This is a train wreck. WTF is happening??
It's Providence at the Dunk. Nothing good happens there
You all are adorable. Bless your hearts.
We look like a high school team right now.
Brain dead half
We are all out of sorts, but this has been a joke. Shaka might need to get a T.
LOL ::) what else!?
It's getting to the point that I cringe when anyone not Oso, Tyler, or Kam have the ball in their hands.
The team could be good if someone else could hit an open 3, or any other shot.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 19, 2023, 08:30:34 PM
Get Ross out. He is stinking it up
Did you wish that on a monkey paw?
Quote from: tower912 on December 19, 2023, 08:35:05 PM
You all are adorable. Bless your hearts.
The game thread is populated by idiots
29 stinking points at the half!!
Weren't they recently touting the team GPA? I've seen more stupidity in the first half than the previous 10 games combined.
Quote from: Mu8891 on December 19, 2023, 08:33:57 PM
Ok ...
This may change over the course of the year, but MU is really not a top 5 / 10 team
Way too inconsistent
Multiple guys that can't shoot
The rebounding is awful
Jop has been terrible
And ... so far ... they are clearly not ready to take every teams best shot.
You're an idiot.
Zero poise from a veteran team. Kolek looks like the only one who came ready to play.
This team definitely does not look like a top 10 team. Time to readjust expectations.
Quote from: Afroman on December 19, 2023, 08:34:24 PM
Could they play any worse?
That was atrocious. Put the fking ball in TyKo's hands. Why are Kam and Oso handling 40 feet from the basket? And as others have mentioned we're not getting diddly squat from players 4-8. ZERO. Driving me nuts.
Quote from: tower912 on December 19, 2023, 08:35:05 PM
You all are adorable. Bless your hearts.
You are good with this performance?
I really get pissed off when players do not jump straight up on 3's but instead jump at the shooter, so stupid. That might have been the dumbest half of the year.
Are they chanting "overrated" yet. Because We seem to be.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 19, 2023, 08:35:57 PM
The game thread is populated by idiots
Just peaked in to look at the most recent page.
Most of you are a total embarrassment.
And now KAM try's to out STOOPID
Joplin and fouls a guy 35 feet from the hoop ... on a three ???!!!
They forgot how to play together on offensive end (1 assist through first 11 mins) And a lot of frosh-level fouls.
Refocus at half. Hope chase is OK.
Lack of a portal transfer really going to hurt us now.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 08:34:15 PM
This is a train wreck. WTF is happening??
The other team has a lot of talented players . They also have an underrated coach.
Quote from: MUeng on December 19, 2023, 08:33:22 PM
Looks like a pretty good ankle roll, doubt he comes back tonight. Damn. Marq just getting punched in the face tonight. Theme for the year though. They will get everyone's best shot in league play and this is not a good start
Teams are going to play us as physically as the refs will allow because we have tough times with very physical teams. If our finess is off, we are in trouble
PU playing straight up defense, like Donny Marshal said. Is what it is, refs...refs..
MU too many turnovers, open threes not going. Ross looks done, shame. Sean Jones gonna play a lot.
Why MU behind?
- Oso one basket, one rebound
- Joplin, Gold and Kam with terrible fouls, leading to 7 free points. Kam one of worst I have ever seen with zero on clock and at floor logo.
Not over yet, but two real games in row. Let's have strong half now
Ross' injury on Breeding. Watched Ross get mugged more than the police officers he attacked on Jan 6.
Lost their composure. Better to happen in the first half than the second.
Quote from: warriorfred on December 19, 2023, 08:36:50 PM
You are good with this performance?
No. But crap happens. Most of us were probably train wrecks at times when we were 19-22.
I think they'll come out of the half a lot better, but it's an uphill climb.
If Kolek leaves. MU would be lucky to be a .500 team in conference
Usual suspects in the game thread now that the team doesn't look great. Pretty predictable.
Quote from: nyg on December 19, 2023, 08:38:19 PM
PU playing straight up defense, like Donny Marshal said. Is what it is, refs...refs..
MU too many turnovers, open threes not going. Ross looks done, shame. Sean Jones gonna play a lot.
Why MU behind?
- Oso one basket, one rebound
- Joplin, Gold and Kam with terrible fouls, leading to 7 free points. Kam one of worst I have ever seen with zero on clock and at floor logo.
Not over yet, but two real games in row. Let's have strong half now
Yep. The lack of poise is what I'm most frustrated by.
Fire Shaka
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 19, 2023, 08:36:09 PM
You're an idiot.
I love how anyone who dares criticize this team, especially on a night when they are playing like crap, is an idiot. You are just sitting at home all pissy and decide to come take your frustrations out on anyone who dares point out the obvious which you are unable to accept. Grow up.
Quote from: GB Warrior on December 19, 2023, 08:38:29 PM
Ross' injury on Breeding. Watched Ross get mugged more than the police officers he attacked on Jan 6.
It wasn't a foul. Chase was completely out of control.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 19, 2023, 08:37:21 PM
Just peaked in to look at the most recent page.
Most of you are a total embarrassment.
The embarrassment is on the court during that half. Hard to fault the Scoopers for noticing.
Played horrendous and down 10 with an incomprehensible foul and missed free throw to end the half. Plenty of time to right the ship.
Crazy this team and these players don't seem to have earned any equity with many on this thread. C'mon now.
Quote from: Farley36 on December 19, 2023, 08:39:49 PM
I love how anyone who dares criticize this team, especially on a night when they are playing like crap, is an idiot. You are just sitting at home all pissy and decide to come take your frustrations out on anyone who dares point out the obvious which you are unable to accept. Grow up.
Agree.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 19, 2023, 08:37:21 PM
Just peaked in to look at the most recent page.
Most of you are a total embarrassment.
No one is a bigger embarrassment than you.
Quote from: Farley36 on December 19, 2023, 08:39:49 PM
I love how anyone who dares criticize this team, especially on a night when they are playing like crap, is an idiot. You are just sitting at home all pissy and decide to come take your frustrations out on anyone who dares point out the obvious which you are unable to accept. Grow up.
No, dipsh*t, I was commenting on an idiotic comment by an idiot. You're also very familiar with being a complete idiot.
Oso is the guy that really needs to get going. One dunk, one ft.
Trying to understand how Sean Jones thinks he can get a shot off being 5'9"
Or so in the lane? Or how do you recruit a small guard who can not shoot?
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 19, 2023, 08:38:53 PM
If Kolek leaves. MU would be lucky to be a .500 team in conference
Haven't been around much. Come back to see this guy is still getting raging hard ons when we lose. Keep doing you, horny loss guy.
Quote from: warriorfred on December 19, 2023, 08:40:16 PM
The embarrassment is on the court during that half. Hard to fault the Scoopers for noticing.
Big difference between commenting on a poorly played 1st half and the complete idiocy from some of our finest posters.
An unimaginably bad half. Simply pathetic especially given how mediocre PC has been offensively.
That was probably the worst 10 mins of MU ball I've seen since Wojo
MU under 70.5 live.
I hope I'm wrong, but with Ross & Mitchell out, and MU not shooting great, I just don't see MU putting up 42 in the second half at the Dunk tonight.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 19, 2023, 08:39:50 PM
It wasn't a foul. Chase was completely out of control.
100%. 2 or 3 times he was taking off for layups 12 feet or more from the hoop. Had no chance to get to the bucket. Hope injury not as bad as it looked.
I'm guessing Shaka put more timeouts in the bank rather than talking to a team out of control.
Quote from: Farley36 on December 19, 2023, 08:41:41 PM
No one is a bigger embarrassment than you.
Says the bitch that only shows up when Marquette isn't playing well.
Quote from: Farley36 on December 19, 2023, 08:39:49 PM
I love how anyone who dares criticize this team, especially on a night when they are playing like crap, is an idiot. You are just sitting at home all pissy and decide to come take your frustrations out on anyone who dares point out the obvious which you are unable to accept. Grow up.
It's more because you only show up and post when Marquette loses, it's obnoxious as crap.
Quote from: DoctorV on December 19, 2023, 08:43:02 PM
That was probably the worst 10 mins of MU ball I've seen since Wojo
The last 10 minutes were really really bad.
Still ..
They are not gonna " right the ship " tonight. This is gonna be an L
Channeling the "Christmas Spirit" of goodwill to all, can we all agree that was a poor performance by the Warriors.
Hope they get on track in the next 20.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 19, 2023, 08:41:53 PM
No, dipsh*t, I was commenting on an idiotic comment by an idiot. You're also very familiar with being a complete idiot.
You are incapable of communicating a thought without losing your crap and calling people names. Everyone here can easily gauge what an embarrassment you are.
The defense is a mess. And will be moreso with Chase out.
A few threes would help.
Chase wasn't fouled on the play he got hurt on. Completely lost awareness of where he was on the floor.
Refs have been largely fine.
MU is playing like ass. Oso, Jop, and Gold are total non factors. This could be ugly.
Is it me or do we have no flow whatsoever in our offense?
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 19, 2023, 08:45:00 PM
The defense is a mess. And will be moreso with Chase out.
A few threes would help.
Chase wasn't fouled on the play he got hurt on. Completely lost awareness of where he was on the floor.
Refs have been largely fine.
MU is playing like ass. Oso, Jop, and Gold are total non factors. This could be ugly.
This is a fair synopsis. Will TyKo have to go ballistic?
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 19, 2023, 08:43:43 PM
It's more because you only show up and post when Marquette loses, it's obnoxious as crap.
Lol I've barely said anything. What have I said in this thread that's awful? That they don't look like a top 10 team? Do you disagree? If so good for you.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 08:45:06 PM
Is it me or do we have no flow whatsoever in our offense?
Out of sorts so far.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 19, 2023, 08:42:53 PM
Big difference between commenting on a poorly played 1st half and the complete idiocy from some of our finest posters.
I get it, but whew, that was a bad half. I forgive a metric crap ton of hyperbole.
We can get in a roll in second half. Tyler will take over and get more happening thecway they want to play. We e come back from more. We can still do this. We miss Stevie though. For sure
It's funny how some people try to transcend the thread by criticizing others who simply are responding to the game like the thread is for.
Quote from: warriorfred on December 19, 2023, 08:46:50 PM
I get it, but whew, that was a bad half. I forgive a metric crap ton of hyperbole.
He doesn't understand what the word hyperbole means.
Quote from: DoctorV on December 19, 2023, 08:43:02 PM
That was probably the worst 10 mins of MU ball I've seen since Wojo
Solutions Dr. V? I'm extremely upset right now.
The ball needs to be in Kolek's hands a lot more. He is off the ball too much, imo. Too much dribbling and not enough passing. A couple of good possessions could open things up for MU.
Down two guards it looks like time to reset expectations for this season. Don't have the depth to overcome this.
My nagging concern is that nobody can bury an open 3, particularly at a timely point in the game.
Oso reminds me of Luke Fisher at times. Wish he would take over and dominate like he's capable of doing.
Quote from: Farley36 on December 19, 2023, 08:46:16 PM
Lol I've barely said anything. What have I said in this thread that's awful? That they don't look like a top 10 team? Do you disagree? If so good for you.
Why is it that you only show up here when Marquette plays poorly, Biff?
No one else here has an issue with me. Just halfwit trolls like you.
Quote from: warriorfred on December 19, 2023, 08:48:13 PM
My nagging concern is that nobody can bury an open 3, particularly at a timely point in the game.
I hope everyone realizes that is a feature of a Shaka team.
He doesn't value shooters.
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on December 19, 2023, 08:47:30 PM
It's funny how some people try to transcend the thread by criticizing others who simply are responding to the game like the thread is for.
They like to think they are "superior" fans. They just take their frustration out differently. Instead of criticizing the team who are actually playing poorly, they criticize other people and call them names. Some how they feel this makes them better than others who are frustrated.
Quote from: Daniel on December 19, 2023, 08:47:19 PM
We can get in a roll in second half. Tyler will take over and get more happening thecway they want to play. We e come back from more. We can still do this. We miss Stevie though. For sure
Benny or Jop may have to hit some threes.
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on December 19, 2023, 08:47:30 PM
It's funny how some people try to transcend the thread by criticizing others who simply are responding to the game like the thread is for.
I like the venting in the game thread, even if off base. Apathy is death.
Quote from: Goose on December 19, 2023, 08:48:01 PM
The ball needs to be in Kolek's hands a lot more. He is off the ball too much, imo. Too much dribbling and not enough passing. A couple of good possessions could open things up for MU.
Secondary players have to be better, Oso worst half of the year, they muscled him and he is a tad soft
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 08:47:49 PM
Solutions Dr. V? I'm extremely upset right now.
I don't know. Maybe play thru your all American pg and all BE 2G and C.
They just seemed so frantic and it makes no sense.
It's an experienced team. Get the ball in TyKos hands, settle down, and run some non kamikaze offense
My belief is that Sean Jones is the key. Teams are daring him to take the 3. Either he finds his shot, or the the team struggles.
Team gave up so many open 3s. Lucky we're not down more.
Quote from: Goose on December 19, 2023, 08:48:01 PM
The ball needs to be in Kolek's hands a lot more. He is off the ball too much, imo. Too much dribbling and not enough passing. A couple of good possessions could open things up for MU.
100
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 19, 2023, 08:49:17 PM
Why is it that you only show up here when Marquette plays poorly, Biff?
No one else here has an issue with me. Just halfwit trolls like you.
lol are you like 12 years old? Name calling and trying to say your name calling is ok because the other kids are ok with you?
Quote from: DoctorV on December 19, 2023, 08:50:09 PM
I don't know. Maybe play thru your all American pg and all BE 2G and C.
They just seemed so frantic and it makes no sense.
It's an experienced team. Get the ball in TyKos hands, settle down, and run some non kamikaze offense
Good points. Why are we so out of control it seems?
I expect a complete turn around in the second half
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 08:45:06 PM
Is it me or do we have no flow whatsoever in our offense?
We are trying to go too fast. We are driving into the lane without purpose right now. It is breaking the flow.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 19, 2023, 08:49:23 PM
I hope everyone realizes that is a feature of a Shaka team.
He doesn't value shooters.
Is this accurate? It seems insane because Shaka's offense creates a lot of open looks.
I didn't want to be insensitive but I'm not surprised when Ross came back. Hurts a lot more when you're frustrated.
Let's go now!
Quote from: Farley36 on December 19, 2023, 08:50:50 PM
lol are you like 12 years old? Name calling and trying to say your name calling is ok because the other kids are ok with you?
Why are you only here when Marquette plays poorly?
I'll be waiting...
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 19, 2023, 08:52:57 PM
I didn't want to be insensitive but I'm not surprised when Ross came back. Hurts a lot more when you're frustrated.
Are you saying Chase Ross had a soccer injury?
Uh, blatant push on Kolek and no call?
Oso brain fart
TyKo getting frustrated with the bumping.
Man, the commentary for this game is... not good
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 19, 2023, 08:53:39 PM
Why are you only here when Marquette plays poorly?
I'll be waiting...
I'm not. You only notice then.
Pissed off Kolek is a good thing.
Providence has traveled 3x's this half on pivots like that, none were called.
Don't get this defense. It's like double everyone in the paint and hope they miss the wide Open 3
Kam doesn't seem to have a clue tonight
Why are we doubling Hopkns that far from the rim?
I've bit my tongue the 7 times PU has dragged a foot or hopped with no call and now they call it on MU
Feels weirdly like the second half start in Madison.
Gettin' our asses outplayed.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 19, 2023, 08:55:57 PM
Don't get this defense. It's like double everyone in the paint and hope they miss the wide Open 3
Ya.....I'm lost.
Seriously, the refs called a charge.
Team is just dumb today
Oso trying to out do Kam!!
Then they call that charge on Oso with all the contact? Wow.
A new season low for officiating tonight. Just disgraceful. Marquette playing their worst basketball of the year regardless.
Man.... Refs not letting Oso play. Need to play better. That Kolek out of bounds was weird too. We are still playing too rushed. Need to run the pace. Man
Wow. All of Oso's fouls tonight have been dumb. Real dumb. What an off night.
Gentlemen, I regret to say this and I hope I am wrong but, we gonna lose. And I'm gonna hear about from all these local damned PC fans until the rematch.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 19, 2023, 08:55:57 PM
Don't get this defense. It's like double everyone in the paint and hope they miss the wide Open 3
It's working. They are 7-23. It's the other crap that's been problematic.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 19, 2023, 08:55:57 PM
Don't get this defense. It's like double everyone in the paint and hope they miss the wide Open 3
That's been exactly the plan, as a team they only shoot 30% from 3
Has worked great on Hopkins, they're completely baiting him but others have hit shots.
Bad officiating, poor offensive flow, and inability to hit open jumper is not a winning combination.
Kind of like "fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life."
They just don't allow Marquette to play physically. It is crazy.
MU has a problem because no one on this team has a jump shot, either a wild lane shot or a 3, that's a problem when you can hit 3's
Great start, down to four, then that double leads to a wide open three. Just Shaka's defense plan, been like that for years. Wait till UConn game for open threes.
Then four turnovers. Brutal. Lots of time for another run.
Quote from: nyg on December 19, 2023, 09:01:28 PM
Great start, down to four, then that double leads to a wide open three. Just Shaka's defense plan, been like that for years. Wait till UConn game for open threes.
Then four turnovers. Brutal. Lots of time for another run.
I feel like they ran something different at UConn in their MSG meeting? Hawkins did not play well that day.
Time to make some 3's.
We can win this game
Sean Jones needs the ultimate red light from 3
Maybe that gets Sean off.
Ducking embarrassing to be a guard at this level and be such a cartoonishly bad shooter. Wtf..
They have called a lot of touch fouls against MU this half. That last one, away from the ball, they could call every single possession.
Just some weird calls this half.
OMG ...
Getting A$$es whipped
S. Jones makes a 3 (!) ... after clanking two. So ... 1 for 3 drastically raises his 3 point percentage
Kam has been way too out of control today. Stop dribbling so much and move the rock.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 19, 2023, 09:04:12 PM
Sean Jones needs the ultimate red light from 3
My Sean Jones is "The Key" theory is becoming scientific fact . . .
Good teams don't panic and win this game. Watched Kansas down all game against IU and they never flinched late in the game. Time for MU to show their poise.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:06:15 PM
Kam has been way too out of control today. Stop dribbling so much and move the rock.
Don't see our crisp ball movement tonight. That's hurting us. And what adjustments can Shaka make with these guys. Need to do something
Quote from: Goose on December 19, 2023, 09:07:23 PM
Good teams don't panic and win this game. Watched Kansas down all game against IU and they never flinched late in the game. Time for MU to show their poise.
Great point Goose. I'm just frustrated with some of the things I've seen.
TyKo won't get that call at the rim.
Not much movement off the ball
Getting very close to calling it. Lot of things I don't get about this team.
Wow. What kind of a shot was that?
S Jones w / airball ...
That ball was clearly off PC. Reffing has been incredibly bad, as usual. Not why we're losing though.
One extraordinary thing about MU this season is that they simply haven't had a Devin Carter-like shooting performance, i.e. a bad shooter having a fluky game, making 4-5 threes.
They've morphed into a lot of one-on-one offense - very disappointing.
Cluster so far on both ends
Ben doesn't seem to be a stopper.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on December 19, 2023, 09:10:34 PM
Not much movement off the ball
Yup. No where to go with the ball - stagnant play play after play. Don't get it. Shaka should put in Tre and Zaide and let them play and take these guys out lol. Stagnant. Worst we played all year. Come on let's go on a run! FpGoo Marquette!
No movement off the ball
Quote from: BM1090 on December 19, 2023, 09:12:22 PM
That ball was clearly off PC. Reffing has been incredibly bad, as usual. Not why we're losing though.
The ref underneath was looking right at the play and still asked for help. 🙄
5 assists and 11 turns is not MU Basketball.
This one's over.
Goose / ain't gonna happen
This is an L.
AWFUL
May lose by 20 !!
Quote from: Goose on December 19, 2023, 09:07:23 PM
Good teams don't panic and win this game. Watched Kansas down all game against IU and they never flinched late in the game. Time for MU to show their poise.
Not tonight, Goose. This one is over.
Embarrassing performance.
Obviously Providence is good and this was going to be a tough win, but the high expectations and low consistency sure do drive me crazy. Pretty disappointed in Ben, I really thought he was better and had more of an edge. He's struggling. Jop, well, not a fan. Thought Sean was playing very smart not taking threes early, now he has to, so keep shooting!
We're getting throttled and have lost our composure.
VBMG will be here any minute to tell you that you're an idiot if you're frustrated by this performance and have real questions on how a top 10 team can look so bad.
Wow. Marquette just fell apart. Bummer. I'm not sure I understand this team.
They got punched in the gut and fell down! Never got back up!
The team needs to get their crap together.
Looks like they are believing the hype, and not living up to it. Also not realizing that every team is going to be out to get them this season.
There does not seem to be the toughness to this team. Last year's team was different and had "fire."
Down 17, calling it a night.
Maybe Mitchell provides a spark, maybe Joplin learns to drive, and maybe Ross and Gold hit open shots?
Finally, either Sean Jones provides a spark (instant offense) or this teams fails.
Quote from: Farley36 on December 19, 2023, 08:55:05 PM
I'm not. You only notice then.
Your post history says otherwise. You're a pathetic troll. At least own it.
Oof, finish strong and get the heck out. Long way to go this season
Marquette hasn't played a complete game since Hawaii. Thought we'd lose tonight but not by this margin.
Pretty poor performance in every aspect of the game. Wow. This isn't a reg problem lol. Wow.... It is stunning how bad we are playing. We won't be this bad again.
Can we get Jop fat again?
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 19, 2023, 09:16:59 PM
Obviously Providence is good and this was going to be a tough win, but the high expectations and low consistency sure do drive me crazy. Pretty disappointed in Ben, I really thought he was better and had more of an edge. He's struggling. Jop, well, not a fan. Thought Sean was playing very smart not taking threes early, now he has to, so keep shooting!
A top five team does not perform like this against a bubble team in their first conference road game of the year. I hope and expect improvement, but they're nowhere near where we hoped so far this season.
The loss of Omax starting to show, especially considering Jolp slid into the rotation in his place. No Stevie does hurt a bit, but no excuse to play this poorly. Offensively MU has really been in a rut lately besides the Texas game.
Marquette can't shoot.
Will be quite a few more games like this.
oops.
Avoid injury.
next game.
Embarrassing showing. You got your one no-show at UW...not a good look for this team that has looked soft in its last two road games.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:15:43 PM
5 assists and 11 turns is not MU Basketball.
4 for 17 from three, plus five points and 2 rebounds from first rounder Oso, plus 3 bench points on one shot, recipe for disaster.
Here comes the subs.....Shaka putting up white flag, move on but two stinkers in a row.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 19, 2023, 09:18:42 PM
Your post history says otherwise. You're a pathetic troll. At least own it.
lol I posted during the Kansas game, not the WI game. I don't post every game. I don't wait for an opportunity to call people names like you seem to. You're a middle schooler. At least own it.
Ok ... as I said above... realistically this is not a top 10 team. Not the way they are playing ...This is an utter disaster, and would NOT happen to
UCONN
KANSAS
PURDUE..
AZ etc
There are some players on this team, Joplin and Kam Jones specifically, who continually make such dumb plays. Absolutely disappointing performance that raises some serious issues about this season, as well as the coaching and preparation.
Quote from: Mu8891 on December 19, 2023, 09:20:36 PM
Ok ... as I said above... realistically this is not a top 10 team. Not the way they are playing ...This is an utter disaster, and would NOT happen to
UCONN
KANSAS
PURDUE..
AZ etc
VBMG is going to call you names
The shooting is definitely concerning.
Defending Big East Regular Season Champions. Defending Big East tournament Champions. Only lost 1 player. Sixth best team in the nation? And this is how we play? Pardon me, but we suck!
That was nice.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:23:17 PM
That was nice.
Freshmen have given em a few good minutes.
Pretty play. Strong finish for Tre.
Quote from: Mu8891 on December 19, 2023, 09:20:36 PM
Ok ... as I said above... realistically this is not a top 10 team. Not the way they are playing ...This is an utter disaster, and would NOT happen to
UCONN
KANSAS
PURDUE..
AZ etc
Didn't this happen to UConn last year?
Just frustrating. Just sucks being top 10 with all the hype and get embarrassed by a bubble team. this team is wildly inconsistent. it's the Texas game one night then this the next. It's Kansas one night then badgers the next. This is incrediblely frustrating. We need to get the one seed crap out of our heads.
Coming off a near loss at home to St. Thomas. Things are bad.
I actually can't believe how incompetent the refs are. I think they've got more calls wrong than correct. Both ways. I'd love to ask some PC fans if their games are always like this.
The freshmen gave some good defensive minutes there. That's encouraging.
Win or lose, that was a nice stretch. Effort begets effort
Unfortunately we are not a top 10 team. Too many holes and depth stinks. Front court too weak
Quote from: Johnny B on December 19, 2023, 09:25:05 PM
Just frustrating. Just sucks being top 10 with all the hype and get embarrassed by a bubble team. this team is wildly inconsistent. it's the Texas game one night then this the next. It's Kansas one night then badgers the next. This is incrediblely frustrating. We need to get the one seed crap out of our heads.
The inconsistency is maddening, as is Jop
Quote from: ATWizJr on December 19, 2023, 09:22:36 PM
Defending Big East Regular Season Champions. Defending Big East tournament Champions. Only lost 1 player. Sixth best team in the nation? And this is how we play? Pardon me, but we suck!
Tonight? Yeah. They also beat Kansas, Texas, and brought Purdue to within 3. Bad games happen. If it's a trend, we'll know soon. In the meantime it's just a sucky game.
If they can get it under 10 anything can still happen but they have been very poor tonight.
They'll dominate Georgetown on Friday though.. yipee..
Travel??
Joplin just can't finish
Tyko not adjusting to the physicality.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:23:17 PM
That was nice.
ya' want my undying adoration, play up to my expectations. Glad I didn't waste my time and money at Blake's and the Amp.
Get a smidge of momentum to at least finish strong
Immediately give it back.
Just brutal
Whatever chip on their shoulder they had last year they better find it soon, it would be a worthy chip and not forced because frankly they aint very good right now.
Providence plays very good D
Smh.
A beat down.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:28:52 PM
Tyko not adjusting to the physicality.
Every time he goes up for a shot in the lane he gets bumped - hard. He complained (legitimately) once in the first half and the refs have been punishing him for it ever since.
PG ...
All true. They don't have a chip on their shoulders.... And this is their 3rd $HIT game in first 11 ...
Not. Good.
Quote from: ParksPop on December 19, 2023, 09:27:03 PM
Tonight? Yeah. They also beat Kansas, Texas, and brought Purdue to within 3. Bad games happen. If it's a trend, we'll know soon. In the meantime it's just a sucky game.
you must have missed the crummy play last week vs St Thomas.
I love this team and he's having a bad game, but tonight withstanding, I don't understand how Oso is a potential lottery pick. I wouldn't want my favorite nba team to use a late first or early second on him.
Chase Ross most improved, does not have a jump shot!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 19, 2023, 09:33:29 PM
Every time he goes up for a shot in the lane he gets bumped - hard. He complained (legitimately) once in the first half and the refs have been punishing him for it ever since.
Maybe but he could take the floater or little 7 footer stop and pop in the lane occasionally.
33% from the field isn't gonna lead to a lot of W's.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 19, 2023, 09:37:56 PM
Chase Ross most improved, does not have a jump shot!
Honestly, Ross sucks right now. I haven't seen anything out of him that makes me think that he's a "dude"
Announcers—Oso, absence without permission. Yep, leaders gotta lead...always
You can complain all you want about refs, but you can not shot 33 percent and expect to win!
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on December 19, 2023, 09:37:34 PM
I love this team and he's having a bad game, but tonight withstanding, I don't understand how Oso is a potential lottery pick. I wouldn't want my favorite nba team to use a late first or early second on him.
The key for Oso is that he needs to get involved early. When he doesn't, he tends to just float around.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on December 19, 2023, 09:39:45 PM
Honestly, Ross sucks right now. I haven't seen anything out of him that makes me think that he's a "dude"
He is an athlete more than a basketball player
I didn't see a ton of fire from anyone other than TyKo tonight.
Odd sequence there.
Huh,?? What's the call?
What's one more missed call for the crew tonight? Throw it on the pile.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:41:29 PM
I didn't see a ton of fire from anyone other than TyKo tonight.
And we saw some of that "negative" fire again from Kolek
That was a WTF whistle.
Muggy I think the call was offsides!
Lots of weird crap as always in this game. But ultimately 17-54 and 4-17 just isn't nearly good enough.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 19, 2023, 09:43:06 PM
And we saw some of that "negative" fire again from Kolek
He got caught up in the non calls at the rim.
Bizarre.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on December 19, 2023, 09:42:55 PM
What's one more missed call for the crew tonight? Throw it on the pile.
Give me a break if that's what's bothering you about tonight.
Chef's kiss on that flagrant call. Perfect finale for the officials.
Excuse Me???? WTH????
Is this flagrant foul with four shots a joke? WTF?
I'm not even mad, just confused.
Did anyone see anything on that play?
Of course it's James Breeding lol
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:44:14 PM
He got caught up in the non calls at the rim.
Yep, and can't
Foul trouble for Providence, 2 fouls on Carter with 3 minutes to go!! Lol
How the unnatural carnal knowledge is that a flagrant foul. This is the worst reffed game I've ever seen.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:46:20 PM
Did anyone see anything on that play?
They said Oso hit their center on the chin - huh?
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 19, 2023, 09:44:39 PM
Give me a break if that's what's bothering you about tonight.
You can see my game posts in this thread and others.
There's not much more of a tell among sports fans than the inability to evaluate officiating in a game no matter the result. A true hallmark of the hyper-casual watcher.
And now I see you're the guy who thought this was the second road game of the season. Please grow up.
4 free throws and the ball back on a play where there were 0 fouls committed.
That's a 1st.
That play was a microcosm of this performance.
Kam has just been brutal tonight
Terrible effort compounded by terrible officiating
Hold on, there is literally nowhere where you shoot four fouls for a flagrant.
There's bad calls and there's just not knowing the rules.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 19, 2023, 09:48:50 PM
Hold on, there is literally nowhere where you shoot four fouls for a flagrant.
There's bad calls and there's just not knowing the rules.
That's what my son said, I think the refs blew it
And ... of course Kam steps out of bounds...
WTFFFFFF ???
Awful
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 19, 2023, 09:49:32 PM
That's what my son said, I think the refs blew it
I think it was because he was also fouled on the shot by Ross?
We need to consistently make plays when we need them. Moving on
I'm still dumbfounded by the F1, Four throws, and the ball. What did they see looking at the replays?
I thought it was an inadvertent whistle for the shot lock violation. Would have been nice to see a replay after the flagrant call.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 19, 2023, 09:49:32 PM
That's what my son said, I think the refs blew it
They called a shooting foul on Ross (there was no foul) and a flagrant on Ighodaro.
2 for the foul, 2 for the flagrant, ball back for the flagrant. None of which should have happened.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 19, 2023, 09:48:50 PM
Hold on, there is literally nowhere where you shoot four fouls for a flagrant.
There's bad calls and there's just not knowing the rules.
only thing i thought of was foul on the shot than additional flagrant foul afterwards?? Equal 4 shots? Idk I didn't see the play
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on December 19, 2023, 09:47:23 PM
You can see my game posts in this thread and others.
There's not much more of a tell among sports fans than the inability to evaluate officiating in a game no matter the result. A true hallmark of the hyper-casual watcher.
And now I see you're the guy who thought this was the second road game of the season. Please grow up.
Blame the refs some more in an awful performance, homer. It's what all crybabies do when their teams deliver a horrible performance.
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 19, 2023, 09:50:14 PM
I think it was because he was also fouled on the shot by Ross?
Got it. Missed the "foul" on Ross
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 19, 2023, 09:48:50 PM
Hold on, there is literally nowhere where you shoot four fouls for a flagrant.
There's bad calls and there's just not knowing the rules.
I think they called a foul on Chase on the shot, then one on Oso after on the rebound.
Wow, Kam. A night to forget. Yikes!!
UGHHH.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 19, 2023, 09:51:51 PM
Blame the refs some more in an awful performance, homer.
Nobody blamed the refs, you casual. You ought to feel humiliated watching the end of this one. This is probably a top five worst officiated game in high D1 this season.
Why was it four free throws and the ball?
And Now ... ANOTHER foul on a 3 point shot ?? They are like a really badly coached JV HS team tonight
How many times are you gonna foul the 3 shooter in a game jfc..
9 FT's for them on 3pt shots.
I thought the reffing couldn't get worse than the game there last year - I may have been wrong.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 19, 2023, 09:51:51 PM
Blame the refs some more in an awful performance, homer. It's what all crybabies do when their teams deliver a horrible performance.
It can be both a horrible performance (it was) and terrible officiating (it was).
STFU Marshall with your Gtown comment.
This is the dumbest game in a long time.
Quote from: marqfan22 on December 19, 2023, 09:52:49 PM
Why was it four free throws and the ball?
Two foul calls. One flagrant.
Tre looks like he's busting his ass out there
Quote from: Johnny B on December 19, 2023, 09:53:29 PM
How many times are you gonna foul the 3 shooter in a game jfc..
As the shot clock expires, no less.
I am going to bed guys. Plenty of season left. Rather crap the bed now and finish strong at the end of the season.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 19, 2023, 09:51:51 PM
Blame the refs some more in an awful performance, homer. It's what all crybabies do when their teams deliver a horrible performance.
Let it go Clutch. There's like six or so posters who complain about the refs constantly, almost obsession, not going to change. Every....single....game.
Just a clunker tonight, move to next.
Quote from: marqfan22 on December 19, 2023, 09:52:49 PM
Why was it four free throws and the ball?
Flagrant 1. Say Oso hit player in the face.
Does anyone have a video on osos flagrant?!?!?!?!
Quote from: muhoops1 on December 19, 2023, 09:57:52 PM
Flagrant 1. Say Oso hit player in the face.
But did he?
Quote from: nyg on December 19, 2023, 09:57:33 PM
Let it go Clutch. There's like six or so posters who complain about the refs constantly, almost obsession, not going to change. Every....single....game.
Just a clunker tonight, move to next.
Amen
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:59:48 PM
But did he?
Too annoyed to go back and watch but I have a feeling it was earlier in the possession.
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 19, 2023, 10:00:59 PM
Too annoyed to go back and watch but I have a feeling it was earlier in the possession.
https://twitter.com/tappingthekeg/status/1737319350418190362?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Either Oso wasn't who it was called on or something else. I'm not sure where they found the flagrant.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 19, 2023, 09:59:48 PM
But did he?
No lol
https://x.com/tappingthekeg/status/1737319350418190362?s=46&t=e4V-Qn0yXIhoDFymgrNefw
Look, I get that complaining about refs gets tiresome. And I'm guilty of it, especially tonight. MU loses tonight even if the refs get every single call right, but the refs were terrible. And it's a reoccurring issue in games at PC.
Hell, I loved it when it happened to UW last month. But Wisconsin got fucked by the refs in their game there too.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 19, 2023, 09:53:29 PM
How many times are you gonna foul the 3 shooter in a game jfc..
Fouling a 3 point shooter is one of the stupidest things you can do on a basketball court. Total lack of discipline. We managed it three times tonight ( and a number of times earlier this season).
Quote from: cheebs09 on December 19, 2023, 10:01:47 PM
https://twitter.com/tappingthekeg/status/1737319350418190362?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Either Oso wasn't who it was called on or something else. I'm not sure where they found the flagrant.
Flagrantly ball watching
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on December 19, 2023, 10:03:22 PM
Fouling a 3 point shooter is one of the stupidest things you can do on a basketball court. Total lack of discipline. We managed it three times tonight ( and a number of times earlier this season).
This is a bit of my concern. Playing loose doesn't mean undisciplined. Playing with passion doesn't mean undisciplined. We have seen a lot of undisciplined in the past 2-3 games. Maybe it's Stevie, he does hold the team to a very high standard, maybe it's something else
Quote from: cheebs09 on December 19, 2023, 10:01:47 PM
https://twitter.com/tappingthekeg/status/1737319350418190362?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Either Oso wasn't who it was called on or something else. I'm not sure where they found the flagrant.
Oso "hit" their guy in the chin with 14 seconds left on the shot clock. Why was the play allowed to continue at that point? The refs had to see it or English convinced them to go to the monitor. Complete incompetence or we just invented football play on rules in basketball.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on December 19, 2023, 10:03:22 PM
Fouling a 3 point shooter is one of the stupidest things you can do on a basketball court. Total lack of discipline. We managed it three times tonight ( and a number of times earlier this season).
That cannot happen DTD. Ever.
That debacle has dropped MU all the way down to 14 in the Ken Pom rankings.
They won't see the top 10 again this season unless some of the players that needed to step up and take on bigger roles start doing it. The team has some pretty glaring weaknesses that have been exposed and conference teams that are familiar with them are going to know how to exploit those weaknesses.
Quote from: wisblue on December 19, 2023, 10:33:26 PM
That debacle has dropped MU all the way down to 14 in the Ken Pom rankings.
They won't see the top 10 again this season unless some of the players that needed to step up and take on bigger roles start doing it. The team has some pretty glaring weaknesses that have been exposed and conference teams that are familiar with them are going to know how to exploit those weaknesses.
I'd bet they are back in the top ten by 1/15 at the latest.