The box score doesn't particularly show it, but Sean Jones played an excellent game tonight, and has improved a ton.
Great for that kid to dig in and not throw in the towel playing behind the BEPoY with more firepower coming in at the 1-3 positions.
We might need him big as soon as Tuesday in Champiagn with TyKos ankle.
SJ22, your table is set
He looked great. Much more under control with the ability to create for others.
He is far better than I thought he would be...
His speed and quickness is off the charts and he played under control. Those spin moves are terrific and he showed some great passing ability as well. He's beyond a pest on D; he and Stevie will create a lot of turnovers together.
The truth!
Sean is simply a great point guard. He was the number one high school point guard in Ohio. Great talent.
He's done well. Want to see him against better competition.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 11, 2023, 06:13:58 AM
He's done well. Want to see him against better competition.
Agree, though I am optimistic.
Shaka mentioned it in the postgame, but he's really improved his ability to change speeds. I think he's a better long range shooter than he's shown, but if he can be a 35% guy from deep, that will make his hesitations that much more effective. I feel a lot better about our depth watching him this year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 11, 2023, 06:36:44 AM
Shaka mentioned it in the postgame, but he's really improved his ability to change speeds. I think he's a better long range shooter than he's shown, but if he can be a 35% guy from deep, that will make his hesitations that much more effective. I feel a lot better about our depth watching him this year.
Yep. Yesterday was actually the first time I felt he can be an effective BE pg without really having to score much, but making some 3s would be a huge boost.
His vision and passing seem a lot better, as if the game is slowing down for him a lot.
I'm sure if he has to play a bunch on Tuesday he will make several mistakes that irritate folks, the kind that TyKo doesn't make, but I'm also very confident he will clean them up as the season progresses.
Yesterday was also the first time I felt confident that we will be ok after Tyler leaves, when that time unfortunately comes.
Pogo stick vert. Serious flight.
Quote from: DoctorV on November 11, 2023, 07:09:22 AM
Yep. Yesterday was actually the first time I felt he can be an effective BE pg without really having to score much, but making some 3s would be a huge boost.
His vision and passing seem a lot better, as if the game is slowing down for him a lot.
I'm sure if he has to play a bunch on Tuesday he will make several mistakes that irritate folks, the kind that TyKo doesn't make, but I'm also very confident he will clean them up as the season progresses.
Yesterday was also the first time I felt confident that we will be ok after Tyler leaves, when that time unfortunately comes.
Kolek caught Scoop wrath at times in year 1. Big improvement, of course, to last season. I think Jones will do well in an expanded role, especially with a healthy hand/wrist.
I think Sean looks much improved this season. If Kolek is out for a bit I would put the ball in his hands. He looks more confident and is changing up his speed more.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 11, 2023, 06:36:44 AM
Shaka mentioned it in the postgame, but he's really improved his ability to change speeds. I think he's a better long range shooter than he's shown, but if he can be a 35% guy from deep, that will make his hesitations that much more effective. I feel a lot better about our depth watching him this year.
That would open his game up considerably. If someone has to respect his deep shot, he can pump fake instead and blow past creating open shots on defensive switches.
Quote from: DoctorV on November 10, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
The box score doesn't particularly show it, but Sean Jones played an excellent game tonight, and has improved a ton.
Great for that kid to dig in and not throw in the towel playing behind the BEPoY with more firepower coming in at the 1-3 positions.
We might need him big as soon as Tuesday in Champiagn with TyKos ankle.
SJ22, your table is set
Why would he throw in the towel?
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 11, 2023, 06:36:44 AM
Shaka mentioned it in the postgame, but he's really improved his ability to change speeds. I think he's a better long range shooter than he's shown, but if he can be a 35% guy from deep, that will make his hesitations that much more effective. I feel a lot better about our depth watching him this year.
Yep yep.
Jones was outstanding last night and quite good for most of the opener.
I was pleasantly surprised but I really shouldn't have been -- yet another Shaka player improving significantly between Year 1 and Year 2.
Quote from: Jockey on November 11, 2023, 09:18:48 AM
Why would he throw in the towel?
No idea, stupid suggestion.
Kid is definitely a warrior!
Sean Jones is a HAVOC dude like Stevie, with better handles and outside shooting, but less length. He needs to start if no TK, then Shaka will go from there.
Sean will be asked to fill in for Tyler now. I hope it's only for a week or two. It's so disappointing. Horrible, with the big games coming up in the next few weeks. You guys know the schedule. It' a tough schedule. A rough run. Personally, I always say, Bring it on! We all know that at the end of February the bracket people and the seeders (NCAA) will be looking at non conference wins. And wins against ranked teams. That's why the AD set up this early schedule. And the games go on. No one is going to say when MU loses to this team or that team it's because Tyler twisted his ankle. It's next man up. Sean can handle what will be his job description. Get the ball up the court without turning it over get into the paint and pass the ball. He is surrounded by scorers. He can't be part of the triangle. Did he figure out how to change pace because the game has slowed down for him? I doubt it. He is a blur but he has the ability to dribble in and out of every tight situation. Chase Ross will develop more and more quickly. MU will adapt and when TK comes back the team will benefit. Deeper, more experienced to handle adversity, and really feel like a team built on culture and sacrifice.
Quote from: DoctorV on November 11, 2023, 03:47:11 PM
No idea, stupid suggestion.
Kid is definitely a warrior!
I agree.
I have zero problem in Kolek cannot go against Illinois. This team is playing for postseason success and the more Sean plays in big moments the better the team will get.
With or without Tyler, I expect a win on Tuesday.
Quote from: Goose on November 11, 2023, 05:20:46 PM
I have zero problem in Kolek cannot go against Illinois. This team is playing for postseason success and the more Sean plays in big moments the better the team will get.
With or without Tyler, I expect a win on Tuesday.
I expect a win as well. Sean is ready.
Quote from: Goose on November 11, 2023, 05:20:46 PM
I have zero problem in Kolek cannot go against Illinois. This team is playing for postseason success and the more Sean plays in big moments the better the team will get.
With or without Tyler, I expect a win on Tuesday.
Yes, rather than disaster this is opportunity. Going into illinois house and beating them without Kolek makes a serious statement that MU is back.
Quote from: 1SE on November 12, 2023, 12:31:19 AM
Yes, rather than disaster this is opportunity. Going into illinois house and beating them without Kolek makes a serious statement that MU is back.
Do you have a reliable source telling you that Kolek won't play?
Sean Jones has been the most eye-popping improvement from any player thus far. Really gives you confidence about MU's future. If Kolek and Oso depart after this season and you keep the rest of the band together, MU should still be ranked coming into next year, possibly highly.
I know Sean's numbers weren't great last year but as a Frosh, I saw enough that I thought he could be a great Shaka-type player.
Size will be a limiting factor but I think junior-year Sean will be a problem for Big East teams
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 12, 2023, 09:38:14 AM
Sean Jones has been the most eye-popping improvement from any player thus far. Really gives you confidence about MU's future. If Kolek and Oso depart after this season and you keep the rest of the band together, MU should still be ranked coming into next year, possibly highly.
I agree with the first sentence, although Ross also has definitely gotten better.
Haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere (though maybe it was), but that run-down block of a 3-point attempt was one hell of a defensive/hustle play. If that had happened in a Final Four game - or maybe even in an important Big East game - it would be talked about as one of the defensive plays of the year in college basketball.
Quote from: MU82 on November 12, 2023, 09:51:03 AM
I agree with the first sentence, although Ross also has definitely gotten better.
Haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere (though maybe it was), but that run-down block of a 3-point attempt was one hell of a defensive/hustle play. If that had happened in a Final Four game - or maybe even in an important Big East game - it would be talked about as one of the defensive plays of the year in college basketball.
Yeah, I'm super pumped about how Sean has looked so far and hes definitely greatly improved.
But since Fridays game it seems a lot are quickly jumping to his improvement and ignoring Chase's since it was more expected through off season chatter.
PG
Chase might end up being their best player this year. He is the real deal.
Quote from: Goose on November 12, 2023, 11:31:22 AM
PG
Chase might end up being their best player this year. He is the real deal.
He's good, but better than a healthy TyKo, Kam, and Oso he will not be.
Next year it's very possible though.
Goose, like you I'm very high on Chase. But if he's our best player, I think we'd all better make travel arrangements to Phoenix for early April.
Sean's mom tho
Quote from: HowardsWorld on November 12, 2023, 01:02:52 PM
Sean's mom tho
She's an assistant coach for a hs boys team. That is putting those kids in a tough position.
Quote from: El Guerrero 2 on November 13, 2023, 01:14:46 PM
She's an assistant coach for a hs boys team. That is putting those kids in a tough position.
I would have gone with hard position... but maybe I shouldn't be making this joke.
I just searched Sean Jones on google and this came up, not sure they got it quite right...
Quote from: THEbig0 on November 13, 2023, 03:34:47 PM
I just searched Sean Jones on google and this came up, not sure they got it quite right...
Chase looks different than I remember
Quote from: THEbig0 on November 13, 2023, 03:34:47 PM
I just searched Sean Jones on google and this came up, not sure they got it quite right...
That's the Clark Kent version of Chase...
Kolek's playing.
Marquette a 2.5 point dog.
Haven't beaten a Big Ten team since Illinois in Shaka's 3rd game at MU. No better time to get another than tomorrow. Guard play is our advantage tomorrow. Let's roll.
Quote from: MU82 on November 12, 2023, 12:57:47 PM
Goose, like you I'm very high on Chase. But if he's our best player, I think we'd all better make travel arrangements to Phoenix for early April.
goose and the boys-meat summit at my house-15 minutes from the dome-disqualified if ya pee in the pool or hot tub
Maybe Crash can fly us, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 13, 2023, 07:52:44 PM
Maybe Crash can fly us, hey?
Guy's been MIA around here, hey?
Tell him I say what's up.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 13, 2023, 08:06:26 PM
Guy's been MIA around here, hey?
Tell him I say what's up.
He's still doxxing people
Quote from: real chili 83 on November 13, 2023, 08:37:51 PM
Source?
The person doxxed this summer can share if they'd like
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 13, 2023, 08:41:36 PM
The person doxxed this summer can share if they'd like
source??
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 13, 2023, 08:41:36 PM
The person doxxed this summer can share if they'd like
Sounds like they already did.
4ever and Rocket
Count me in. Sounds like the ultimate meat summit. Always good to get the original squad back together, it has been awhile.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 13, 2023, 08:06:26 PM
Guy's been MIA around here, hey?
He's been busy defending various lawsuits.
Mr Death On Call.
Quote from: Mutaman on November 14, 2023, 12:05:01 AM
He's been busy defending various lawsuits.
Mr Death On Call.
For one of his 4 failed LLCs since 2017? Real big energy exec, eh?
No bigger pos on the planet.
Rocky
That is what you add to a thread? I have no problem with wades hanging onto this topic as long as he wants, but no idea why a "mod" would fuel a fire.
You are in midseason form and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I think Keefe had a short lived cameo over the summer.
Quote from: tower912 on November 14, 2023, 05:12:11 AM
I think Keefe had a short lived cameo over the summer.
As who?
Quote from: Goose on November 14, 2023, 04:44:44 AM
Rocky
That is what you add to a thread? I have no problem with wades hanging onto this topic as long as he wants, but no idea why a "mod" would fuel a fire.
You are in midseason form and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
i'm sure he took his mod hat off first though
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real
How would Tower know if Crash was back or not? It seems to me like he just threw something out there to create a smoke screen on why Crash is being discussed by the mods and other anti Crash guys on here.
Quote from: Goose on November 14, 2023, 06:24:38 AM
real
How would Tower know if Crash was back or not? It seems to me like he just threw something out there to create a smoke screen on why Crash is being discussed by the mods and other anti Crash guys on here.
"Don't start none, won't be none"
Quote from: Goose on November 14, 2023, 06:24:38 AM
real
How would Tower know if Crash was back or not? It seems to me like he just threw something out there to create a smoke screen on why Crash is being discussed by the mods and other anti Crash guys on here.
rocket brought up a "meat summit." 4ever brought up keefe.
He hasn't been mentioned here in months. The mods never brought him up until the topic presented itself. If it's true that he returned and tried to dox another poster, I can see why they are frustrated. It's pretty much a line you shouldn't cross on message board, and to repeatedly do so after you were banned is just mind-boggling behavior.
I have said this before, but I have no idea who any of you are unless you have a more public persona here. I truly do not care. Why it's an obsession with some of you is just weird and creepy.
Fluff
I can say that I have zero interest in anyone outside of this board unless they care to share in a thread or a PM. I have enjoyed learning about other people's lives and learning from it. Secondly, I am 100% against doxing and think it is immature. I will add, I think others throwing out accusations and insults is similar in nature. Wades has a right to voice his POV as long as he wants on this topic, IMO.
That said, unless someone has proof he was back on the board under a new name, accusing him of doxing others and calling him a pos seems to be out of line.
For the record, I have no obsession on scopp aside from MU basketball. Hell, I think you posting on every topic is weird and creepy, but that is your right to do so.
In mid 2021 Keefe, through one of his multitudes of scoop aliases, emailed a fellow member's HR department in an ill fated attempt to get that person fired. How do I know it was Keefe? The email was sent from an account that corresponded to one on MUScoop, and the IP addresses for that account was one that had ONLY ever been used by Keefe. Smoking gun. All the evidence that was needed.
Upon learning this, I also learned it likely was at least the second time this had happened. And that the meat-men thought it funny, and snickered like school girls at the previous attempt. To hear it may have happened again makes my blood boil.
Any Marquette fan that would come here and intentionally try to tank another Marquette fan/alum's career is despicable. The worst kind of dishonor is due to them.
I mentioned it when this came up in 2021 - if you truly find Keefe a friend, you should confront him about his actions. He needs help.
Sounds to me like Rocky had more than enough reason to defend his insult to your friend Goose. He's the moderator of this board and given that Keefes attempted to destroy lives of two for sure potentially three posters that's objectively disgusting and well within the rights of Rocky to be upset about.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 14, 2023, 08:48:09 AM
In mid 2021 Keefe, through one of his multitudes of scoop aliases, emailed a fellow member's HR department in an ill fated attempt to get that person fired. How do I know it was Keefe? The email was sent from an account that corresponded to one on MUScoop, and the IP addresses for that account was one that had ONLY ever been used by Keefe. Smoking gun. All the evidence that was needed.
Upon learning this, I also learned it likely was at least the second time this had happened. And that the meat-men thought it funny, and snickered like school girls at the previous attempt. To hear it may have happened again makes my blood boil.
Any Marquette fan that would come here and intentionally try to tank another Marquette fan/alum's career is despicable. The worst kind of dishonor is due to them.
I mentioned it when this came up in 2021 - if you truly find Keefe a friend, you should confront him about his actions. He needs help.
Wow, what a POS.
I understand the new board will be far more welcoming to doxxers/plagiarists, extreme homophobes, and anti-vaxxers alike. Should be great.
Sorry. I should have just let it be. I just find it hard to let a mention of him pass when he never tried to reach out after what he did. That, to me, is a bigger indictment of who he is than him emailing the head of our HR department to tattle tale on my time spent on MUScoop. His whole Scoop persona of being this big manly man, and when he gets caught being an idiot he won't even own up to it, publicly or privately. The opposite of manliness, in my opinion.
The head of the HR department just called me into her office, showed me the email that was sent to her (I think it basically just said, "(my name, my title) is spending way too much company time on the website called MUScoop. You should look into this and be very concerned about how much time is being wasted. I know the owners of your company are good hard working people and this is unacceptable behavior for an employee.") We then shared a laugh about how everyone at the company loves me so she just wanted to let me know in case someone has it out for me for some reason, and I ended up with a promotion within months. So it didn't really do any harm to me, and I'd even be happy to forgive the guy. I've just never had the chance.
So, it is what it is. I'll give him that he was pretty creative with his email address. He had me thinking it was a different Scooper at first.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 14, 2023, 09:48:21 AM
He had me thinking it was a different Scooper at first.
Now you've got me wondering which Scooper he tried to frame for the deed. That's just adding
another layer of crappiness to the situation.
Last mention of Sean Jones was middle of 2nd page of posts.
MUScoop right on par.
Beyond the doxing. Let's also not forget his $hitting on the chosen profession of Brew and Tower, objectively everyday heroes. Either if Keefe had a fire he'd fight it himself and lose or to their face crap on them as they saved his possessions.
Quote from: NCMUFan on November 14, 2023, 10:00:59 AM
Last mention of Sean Jones was middle of 2nd page of posts.
MUScoop right on par.
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TY, back on the rails.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 14, 2023, 10:04:48 AM
Beyond the doxing. Let's also not forget his $hitting on the chosen profession of Brew and Tower, objectively everyday heroes. Either if Keefe had a fire he'd fight it himself and lose or to their face crap on them as they saved his possessions.
To their face? Nah
Back to the game at hand.
MU will win with or without Tyler at point tonight. This team has depth so keep the faith. I look forward to Tyler's return when he is healthy, not before.
Class71
I agree. This is an early season statement game and I think the team is ready for their road business trip of the season.
Goodman reporting game time decision for TKO
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1724459082138972553
Figurin' he starts. How long or effective #11 is tonight, remains to be seen, hey?
Yay, Sean. I think TKo gives it a go.
Quote from: tower912 on November 14, 2023, 01:11:40 PM
Yay, Sean. I think TKo gives it a go.
If it's up to him, 100% chance.
Looonnngggg, and effective? To be seen.
Kolek was on the floor for the shoot around with no boot (see 0:06 in the corner and in the background when Chase is shooting (https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1724508615787049313?s=20)).
The dude is a Warrior. I'm betting he'll be on the floor tonight.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on November 14, 2023, 01:42:19 PM
The dude is a Warrior. I'm betting he'll be on the floor tonight.
AI to the rescue!
Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 14, 2023, 02:01:13 PM
Is that if Rowsey wasn't hungover?
Hah, Dall-e is still imperfect.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 14, 2023, 01:54:07 PM
AI to the rescue!
Even if you hadn't admitted it, I'd have known it was a fake. We're Jordan Brand, not Nike.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on November 14, 2023, 02:26:32 PM
Even if you hadn't admitted it, I'd have known it was a fake. We're Jordan Brand, not Nike.
But those uniforms are still a massive upgrades over what we have right now.