I'm reading mixed reviews....apparently it drags like the Irishman.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 16, 2023, 08:18:42 PM
I'm reading mixed reviews....apparently it drags like the Irishman.
Too woke. Highlights the genocide of Native Americans
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 16, 2023, 08:21:41 PM
Too woke. Highlights the genocide of Native Americans
I never wrote it's too woke.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 16, 2023, 08:29:54 PM
I never wrote it's too woke.
I wrote it's too woke. Native Americans didn't have it that bad. People forget we brought them Christianity. I don't want to see a movie that doesn't celebrate American history.
Also, 95 % on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.8/10 on IMBD and 9/10 on IGN, so sure, mixed reviews
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 16, 2023, 08:32:10 PM
I wrote it's too woke. Native Americans didn't have it that bad. People forget we brought them Christianity. I don't want to see a movie that doesn't celebrate American history.
Also, 95 % on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.8/10 on IMBD and 9/10 on IGN, so sure, mixed reviews
And blankets. They must have been freezing before we helped them.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on October 16, 2023, 08:34:02 PM
And blankets. They must have been freezing before we helped them.
Hope boycotts are being planned
I loved the book. I'm not sure if I'm willing to invest 3.5 hours into the movie.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 16, 2023, 08:18:42 PM
I'm reading mixed reviews....apparently it drags like the Irishman.
I'm concerned about your reading
Quote from: cheebs09 on October 16, 2023, 08:58:27 PM
I loved the book. I'm not sure if I'm willing to invest 3.5 hours into the movie.
I love the book, too.
In a separate chapter of the deplorable treatment of Native Americans, did anyone catch the first half of Ken Burns's The American Buffalo on PBS last night? It was brutally great.
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/killers-of-the-flower-moon/
Quote from: MUBurrow on October 17, 2023, 09:09:46 AM
In a separate chapter of the deplorable treatment of Native Americans, did anyone catch the first half of Ken Burns's The American Buffalo on PBS last night? It was brutally great.
Beyond sad what the 🦬 population has endured. One of the worst genocides in history. It doesn't bother me in the slightest when they get mad and charge douchebags that want selfles.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 16, 2023, 08:21:41 PM
Too woke. Highlights the genocide of Native Americans
? The book (and I assume the movie) are very anti genocide. The woke in the US (at least on campuses and in Congress) are just the opposite.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 17, 2023, 07:04:25 PM
Beyond sad what the 🦬 population has endured. One of the worst genocides in history. It doesn't bother me in the slightest when they get mad and charge douchebags that want selfles.
Considering that you are calling for killing millions in another thread, you comment is redundant.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2023, 07:39:11 PM
? The book (and I assume the movie) are very anti genocide. The woke in the US (at least on campuses and in Congress) are just the opposite.
🤔
Quote from: Jockey on October 17, 2023, 07:55:22 PM
Considering that you are calling for killing millions in another thread, you comment is redundant.
Stop distorting my words and attacking the 🦬 population.
Can I get clarification on the mixed reviews
Still confused where that verdict was made
The Osage film consultant doesn't like it.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on October 17, 2023, 08:53:05 PM
Can I get clarification on the mixed reviews
Still confused where that verdict was made
I saw a few poor reviews but I guess most were favorable.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 17, 2023, 09:00:50 PM
I saw a few poor reviews but I guess most were favorable.
Hang this in The Louvre
Saw a few poor reviews and started a thread saying it's getting mixed reviews.
Then say I guess most were favorable when it has a 95% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 91% on Metacritic with 32 positive reviews, 3 mixed and 0 negative. Yes, I guess most were favorable.
Fantastic
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2023, 06:37:55 AM
Hang this in The Louvre
Saw a few poor reviews and started a thread saying it's getting mixed reviews.
Then say I guess most were favorable when it has a 95% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 91% on Metacritic with 32 positive reviews, 3 mixed and 0 negative. Yes, I guess most were favorable.
Fantastic
Bad analogy.
Holding steady at 95% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Up to 91 on Metacritc with 43 positive reviews and 3 mixed reviews
Proving Muggsy's point of having seen mixed reviews.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2023, 06:14:13 PM
Holding steady at 95% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Up to 91 on Metacritc with 43 positive reviews and 3 mixed reviews
The Irishman was 95% on RT. But other reviewers weren't so kind. Besides Pesci the flick had some probs.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 18, 2023, 06:33:29 PM
The Irishman was 95% on RT. But other reviewers weren't so kind. Besides Pesci the flick had some probs.
What does that have to do with this movie or your original post being wrong?
Also, The Irishman is the perfect ending to his Italian mob trilogy. Perfectly showed the sad lives of mobsters, their families and associates.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2023, 06:38:48 PM
What does that have to do with this movie or your original post being wrong?
Also, The Irishman is the perfect ending to his Italian mob trilogy. Perfectly showed the sad lives of mobsters, their families and associates.
I read the review in the SF Chronicle and it wasn't favorable. But I guess shouldn't have wrote mixed reviews.
Interestingly enough the WSJ gave the film a dud review and ripped the casting of Leo and De Niro.
Redemption for muggsy!
Quote from: tower912 on October 21, 2023, 08:16:04 AM
Redemption for muggsy!
Down to 92% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, only 86% by viewers. Definitely a movie with mixed reviews.
Couple that with Scorsese's anti-white assessment of the treatment of Native Americans and I'll pass. Also, I'm boycotting Deniro anyway for being mean to President Trump
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2023, 08:24:43 AM
Down to 92% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, only 86% by viewers. Definitely a movie with mixed reviews.
Couple that with Scorsese's anti-white assessment of the treatment of Native Americans and I'll pass. Also, I'm boycotting Deniro anyway for being mean to President Trump
Did you like Kundun?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2023, 08:40:15 AM
Never saw it
I'm not sure he's made a great film since The Departed. Good films, not great.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 21, 2023, 08:46:06 AM
I'm not sure he's made a great film since The Departed. Good films, not great.
The Departed is overrated and The Irishman is far better
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2023, 08:47:37 AM
The Departed is overrated and The Irishman is far better
I disagree. Although Damon may have been miscast. I wonder if Nicholson is doing alright? Tremendous actor.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2023, 08:47:37 AM
The Departed is overrated and The Irishman is far better
Yes.
And no.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2023, 08:47:37 AM
The Departed is overrated and The Irishman is far better
Maybe
No way
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 21, 2023, 08:49:28 AM
I disagree. Although Damon may have been miscast. I wonder if Nicholson is doing alright? Tremendous actor.
He's 86 and hasn't exactly been a paragon of moderation, but he's undoubtedly one of the GOATs.
Personally, I think Scorsese's best film was Gangs of New York... with Goodfellas a very close second. Now there's a little controversy. ;D
Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 21, 2023, 10:02:58 AM
Personally, I think Scorsese's best film was Gangs of New York... with Goodfellas a very close second. Now there's a little controversy. ;D
Gangs of New York is good except Cameron Diaz is awful in it and DiCaprio was no match for Day-Lewis
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2023, 10:07:35 AM
Gangs of New York is good except Cameron Diaz is awful in it and DiCaprio was no match for Day-Lewis
My only two critiques as well, though I'm not sure anyone at DiCaprio's age at the time could have matched DDL.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 21, 2023, 10:10:56 AM
My only two critiques as well, though I'm not sure anyone at DiCaprio's age at the time could have matched DDL.
Correct. It's really beautifully shot and captures what cities were. Would have been inconceivable to the "big cities scare me now crowd of 2023"
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2023, 10:15:35 AM
Correct. It's really beautifully shot and captures what cities were. Would have been inconceivable to the "big cities scare me now crowd of 2023"
For sure. I feel like I could pause that movie at any moment and look around for ten minutes. The cinematography is easily the best of any movie he's made.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 21, 2023, 10:07:35 AM
Gangs of New York is good except Cameron Diaz is awful in it and DiCaprio was no match for Day-Lewis
Agreed. D-D-L actually saved the picture from being mediocre. He's truly elite, perhaps the 🐐.
D-D-L insists he's done. I wonder why Tarantino doesn't get him in his last film? Obviously Jack and D-D-L are the top of the totem pole.
Not his best, but "After Hours" is sneaky great.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 21, 2023, 07:58:07 AM
Interestingly enough the WSJ gave the film a dud review and ripped the casting of Leo and De Niro.
Whoever wrote that should actually not be allowed to write ever again.
I'm not talking about the review of the movie its self thats all subjective
But ripping the casting of two the the best actors of all time is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. Deniro is fantastic and as most are saying this is one of Leos best performances ever.
I still think a role like Wolf was more challenging and better. But Leo is really fu cking good in this.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on October 21, 2023, 01:00:52 PM
Whoever wrote that should actually not be allowed to write ever again.
I'm not talking about the review of the movie its self thats all subjective
But ripping the casting of two the the best actors of all time is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. Deniro is fantastic and as most are saying this is one of Leos best performances ever.
I still think a role like Wolf was more challenging and better. But Leo is really fu cking good in this.
The movie is woke
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on October 21, 2023, 01:00:52 PM
Whoever wrote that should actually not be allowed to write ever again.
I'm not talking about the review of the movie its self thats all subjective
But ripping the casting of two the the best actors of all time is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. Deniro is fantastic and as most are saying this is one of Leos best performances ever.
I still think a role like Wolf was more challenging and better. But Leo is really fu cking good in this.
I'm a huge fan of Deniro but his work has fallen off. Understandably so.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 21, 2023, 06:21:50 PM
I'm a huge fan of Deniro but his work has fallen off. Understandably so.
Lots of wives. Lots of kids. The work never ceases.
Oklahoma doesn't want to allow even high school kids to learn about the horrific treatment of the Osage people and other Native Americans.
State leaders don't want whitey to feel "guilty."
Also: Raging Bull is Scorsese's all-time masterpiece.
Taxi Driver
Goodfellows
Raging Bull
Shutter Island
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 21, 2023, 10:29:25 PM
Taxi Driver
Goodfellows
Raging Bull
Shutter Island
I rewatched Taxi Driver a couple months ago and while it obviously showed its age, I still found it riveting. Good choice, Lenny.
Raging Bull is a top-10, maybe even top-5 movie all-time for me. Scorsese and DeNiro both at their peak.
DeNiro in Deer Hunter is a masterpiece.
Quote from: 🏀 on October 22, 2023, 12:15:23 PM
DeNiro in Deer Hunter is a masterpiece.
So are Christopher Walken, John Cazale, Meryl Streep, etc. but We're talking Scorsese and he didn't do Deer Hunter.
Tangentially related to "Goodfellas" (or Goodfellows) ...
A notorious Bonanno crime family capo once linked to the infamous Lufthansa heist at JFK airport depicted in the movie "Goodfellas," has died three years after he was released from prison for health reasons.
Vincent Asaro, 86, was part of a cadre of mobsters charged with making off with nearly $6 million in the 1978 airport robbery. He beat the rap in 2015 — only to get jailed on an unrelated road rage arson conviction.
https://news.yahoo.com/mobster-charged-heist-inspired-goodfellas-232208741.html
Thank god he didn't buy any fur coats.
I finally saw it, after reading the book. Monumentally disappointed. The book was excellent too.