Clearly this pup is upset and has all sorts of anxiety. Terrible situation. Get this dog to a trainer and out of that Hell Hole. Immediately.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 04, 2023, 04:48:48 PM
Clearly this pup is upset and has all sorts of anxiety. Terrible situation. Get this dog to a trainer and out of that Hell Hole. Immediately.
Nah, just shoot em and grill em.
Tremendous judge of character.
Quote from: tower912 on October 04, 2023, 05:38:16 PM
Tremendous judge of character.
Commander needs help Tower. This isn't funny and an awful situation.
Muggsy focusing on the critical issues in Washington (salute)
Quote from: JWags85 on October 04, 2023, 05:55:59 PM
Muggsy focusing on the critical issues in Washington (salute)
I'm not allowed to share political opinions here.
On cue
He's bitten 12 people that we know of - put him down.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 04, 2023, 07:31:49 PM
He's bitten 12 people that we know of - put him down.
I hate to say it, but I agree. If this dog belonged to a regular Joe, it would have happened long ago.
I m gonna side with Commander. He hasn't been trained and is dealing with a s-show psychologically.
Cant they just take him to a farm, like my parents told me what happened to one of our dogs when I was a kid.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 04, 2023, 07:41:04 PM
I m gonna side with Commander. He hasn't been trained and is dealing with a s-show psychologically.
Is he? There have been plenty of dogs in the WH before and they seem to have thrived.
Sometimes dogs just can't be saved. It's ok to admit that.
The dog seems to dislike a certain type who seems to dislike his human.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 04, 2023, 07:52:24 PM
Is he? There have been plenty of dogs in the WH before and they seem to have thrived.
Sometimes dogs just can't be saved. It's ok to admit that.
That's fair but my instincts are that this is a caretaker issue. It's not about the WH per se but he was raised there. I don't believe he was ever trained.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on October 04, 2023, 08:04:02 PM
The dog seems to dislike a certain type who seems to dislike his human.
He's not partial to the secret service guys despite certain reports.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 04, 2023, 08:06:00 PM
He's not partial to the secret service guys despite certain reports.
Good
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 04, 2023, 07:41:04 PM
I m gonna side with Commander. He hasn't been trained and is dealing with a s-show psychologically.
Trump wasn't trained and Is a s-show psychologically. You were fine with him.
Quote from: Jockey on October 04, 2023, 08:25:01 PM
Trump wasn't trained and Is a s-show psychologically. You were fine with him.
<sigh>
Just stop.
Seems pretty obvious Commander found Hunter's stash.
"Cocaine Bear," bur wjrh a German shepherd.
Quote from: lawdog77 on October 04, 2023, 07:43:49 PM
Cant they just take him to a farm, like my parents told me what happened to one of our dogs when I was a kid.
That happened to my family's first dog, a beagle, back in the 70's. He bit 3 people and one day my brother and I came home from school and the parents said "they had to take to the farm". It sounded like such a great place for dogs.
i'd say threaten to give commando to jockbreath, that would cure him in a new york second
Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 04, 2023, 09:19:39 PM
i'd say threaten to give commando to jockbreath, that would cure him in a new york second
Just don't give him to Rickie Fowler. Then the dog will be a choker and biter
Commander looks ferocious and the gardener looks terrified...
I've always thought German Shepherds were kind of majestic animals, so I hope no one takes any steps to simply make him "disappear".
He probably wasn't trained properly and he probably spends too much time indoors and I don't think a lot of big dogs like that.
Hook him up with someone who lives in the country and who's good with dogs. Give him a huge fenced in yard and let him live out his years chasing rabbits and lying under a shade tree.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 04, 2023, 10:54:48 PM
I've always thought German Shepherds were kind of majestic animals, so I hope no one takes any steps to simply make him "disappear".
He probably wasn't trained properly and he probably spends too much time indoors and I don't think a lot of big dogs like that.
Hook him up with someone who lives in the country and who's good with dogs. Give him a huge fenced in yard and let him live out his years chasing rabbits and lying under a shade tree.
Yes. Take the necessary steps to get him out of there and with a skilled trainer.
Quote from: Jockey on October 04, 2023, 08:25:01 PM
Trump wasn't trained and Is a s-show psychologically. You were fine with him.
^^^ ban dis cheater
Jockey trains zir hounds (pb trick) hours after taking them in. Next time ze visits Hunter, maybe ze can spend some time with the beast
I guess Commader was taken out of the home. Hopefully the damage isn't irrevocable and he becomes a happy and healthy dog. I also read that their other German Shepherd, Major, had some problems as well.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 05, 2023, 06:16:33 AM
I guess Commader was taken out of the home. Hopefully the damage isn't irrevocable and he becomes a happy and healthy dog. I also read that their other German Shepherd, Major, had some problems as well.
I hope he eats a kid
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 05, 2023, 06:20:20 AM
I hope he eats a kid
Don Jr. would be a good place to start
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on October 05, 2023, 06:31:58 AM
Don Jr. would be a good place to start
With intensity and focus
As a former dog owner (went to dog heaven a year ago), I quickly learned every dog has its own personality and quirks. Some adapt well to their surroundings, others don't.
Commander evidently doesn't like Secret Service agents. Could it be that Commander is anti-gun? Who knows, but the poor dog probably is very protective of the President and is doing what he thinks is his prime directive -- caring for and protecting his owner. I'm sure he's a good dog but with all of the confusion and lack of routine around a president -- any president -- Commander may just not be able to adapt.
Sounds like Commander needs a big yard, room to run and an owner who will fuss over him day and night.
Quote from: dgies9156 on October 05, 2023, 08:32:37 AM
As a former dog owner (went to dog heaven a year ago), I quickly learned every dog has its own personality and quirks. Some adapt well to their surroundings, others don't.
Commander evidently doesn't like Secret Service agents. Could it be that Commander is anti-gun? Who knows, but the poor dog probably is very protective of the President and is doing what he thinks is his prime directive -- caring for and protecting his owner. I'm sure he's a good dog but with all of the confusion and lack of routine around a president -- any president -- Commander may just not be able to adapt.
Sounds like Commander needs a big yard, room to run and an owner who will fuss over him day and night.
I know little about this dog, but I suspect you're giving him a little too much credit. First, it's now been documented that he's attacked a number of WH staff aside from secret service agents -- so I suspect it has nothing to do with guns (which I don't think the secret service agents are in the habit of flashing -- I've seen many over the years and I've never seen one of their guns). Second, I also suspect that POTUS hasn't been anywhere near most of the incidents -- if any. I think when you're POTUS -- any POTUS -- you've got a lot going on and spend very little time with your pets. Others care for and tend to the pets and it's been my understanding that these are the individuals have been bitten. So I doubt that the dog is being protective of POTUS.
For whatever reason, this dog just isn't suited for this environment. Maybe it's the dog; maybe it's the environment. I'm happy to hear that they've removed him from the environment.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 05, 2023, 08:42:37 AM
I know little about this dog, but I suspect you're giving him a little too much credit. First, it's now been documented that he's attacked a number of WH staff aside from secret service agents -- so I suspect it has nothing to do with guns (which I don't think the secret service agents are in the habit of flashing -- I've seen many over the years and I've never seen one of their guns). Second, I also suspect that POTUS hasn't been anywhere near most of the incidents -- if any. I think when you're POTUS -- any POTUS -- you've got a lot going on and spend very little time with your pets. Others care for and tend to the pets and it's been my understanding that these are the individuals have been bitten. So I doubt that the dog is being protective of POTUS.
For whatever reason, this dog just isn't suited for this environment. Maybe it's the dog; maybe it's the environment. I'm happy to hear that they've removed him from the environment.
I essentially agree with this analysis. And again, they had problems with their other German Shepherd. We do not know all of the facts but it's clear this dog was not comfortable or trained properly at that residence. I'm glad he will get some help.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 04, 2023, 10:54:48 PM
I've always thought German Shepherds were kind of majestic animals, so I hope no one takes any steps to simply make him "disappear".
He probably wasn't trained properly and he probably spends too much time indoors and I don't think a lot of big dogs like that.
Hook him up with someone who lives in the country and who's good with dogs. Give him a huge fenced in yard and let him live out his years chasing rabbits and lying under a shade tree.
This is a false statement.
Lots of big dog breeds make fantastic small home/apartment dogs precisely because they're giant and prefer to lounge around
Commander is only two, so its pretty laughable to write him off with the "welp some dogs just can't be helped, better put 'em down" imo. But he probably also won't get any better staying at the WH. Consistency is the most important part of puppy training, and I am guessing that the WH is just about the least consistent environment imaginable for a young pup.
Quote from: MUBurrow on October 05, 2023, 09:58:24 AM
Commander is only two, so its pretty laughable to write him off with the "welp some dogs just can't be helped, better put 'em down" imo. But he probably also won't get any better staying at the WH. Consistency is the most important part of puppy training, and I am guessing that the WH is just about the least consistent environment imaginable for a young pup.
Agreed. Some of these comments are not only laughable but homicidal. And not the least bit amusing.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 05, 2023, 10:11:09 AM
Agreed. Some of these comments are not only laughable but homicidal. And not the least bit amusing.
Hate to break it to you, but a dog is not human. (Not that I am arguing he should be put down)
I'd be curious how ferocious these bites are. If it is like the picture shown, then I think it's a pretty loose definition. Our dog is pretty mouthy and when she gets excited, tends to use her mouth to show affection. She's not even close to breaking skin.
If it's more of an attacking bite, I'd be surprised that they let it get to 12.
Quote from: cheebs09 on October 05, 2023, 10:22:07 AM
I'd be curious how ferocious these bites are. If it is like the picture shown, then I think it's a pretty loose definition. Our dog is pretty mouthy and when she gets excited, tends to use her mouth to show affection. She's not even close to breaking skin.
If it's more of an attacking bite, I'd be surprised that they let it get to 12.
Agreed. Is this "any time it breaks the skin we have to report it becuase its technically a workplace injury" type of thing? Because double digit legit, aggressive bites is prettt crazy - especially with all the resources that can be brought to bear to rectify the situation.
How come the dog is only biting secret service agents? I think they're part of the deep state
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 05, 2023, 10:48:42 AM
How come the dog is only biting secret service agents? I think they're part of the deep state
The truth is that they're all actually just quietly feeding him treats and pretending they've been bitten.
It's the second biggest witch hunt in the history of the USA.
Bad owner, bad dawg
Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 05, 2023, 10:51:11 AM
The truth is that they're all actually just quietly feeding him treats and pretending they've been bitten.
It's the second biggest witch hunt in the history of the USA.
Sounds like Commander has enough votes from the Freedom Caucus to be elected the next speaker of the house
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 05, 2023, 12:52:18 PM
Sounds like Commander has enough votes from the Freedom Caucus to be elected the next speaker of the house
The Republicans are looking for someone with some bite.
Too soft on crime
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 05, 2023, 06:16:33 AM
I guess Commader was taken out of the home. Hopefully the damage isn't irrevocable and he becomes a happy and healthy dog. I also read that their other German Shepherd, Major, had some problems as well.
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One problem dog, probably the dog; two problem dogs probably the owner. My wife and I are in our mid 70s and our two 90+ pound labs can at times can be a handful, but they have never bitten anyone. Perhaps the Bidens are just two busy and even too old to manage a high energy breed like a german shepherd. Good socialization when their pups is important and just on the surface it appears that neither Commander nor Major were socialized.
Quote from: dgies9156 on October 05, 2023, 08:32:37 AM
As a former dog owner (went to dog heaven a year ago), I quickly learned every dog has its own personality and quirks. Some adapt well to their surroundings, others don't.
Commander evidently doesn't like Secret Service agents. Could it be that Commander is anti-gun? Who knows, but the poor dog probably is very protective of the President and is doing what he thinks is his prime directive -- caring for and protecting his owner. I'm sure he's a good dog but with all of the confusion and lack of routine around a president -- any president -- Commander may just not be able to adapt.
Sounds like Commander needs a big yard, room to run and an owner who will fuss over him day and night.
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As a long time dog owner of a number of hunting dogs plus working with many trainers I am of the opinion that it's owners not dogs that are to blame. Know the breed you want Different breeds have different temperaments. Shepards are not the right breed for a busy , chaotic surroundings. Commander was probably not the right fit for the White House.
Cesar Millan's got nothing on Scoop.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on October 05, 2023, 04:43:40 PM
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As a long time dog owner of a number of hunting dogs plus working with many trainers I am of the opinion that it's owners not dogs that are to blame. Know the breed you want Different breeds have different temperaments. Shepards are not the right breed for a busy , chaotic surroundings. Commander was probably not the right fit for the White House.
Virtually always an owner problem. When the owner has very little time to spend with the dog it's even worse.
Presidents should just get cats. They don't care where their owner is most of the time.
Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on October 05, 2023, 05:25:46 PM
Presidents should just get cats. They don't care where their owner is most of the time.
Or a 🐢 maybe?
Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on October 05, 2023, 05:25:46 PM
Presidents should just get cats. They don't care where their owner is most of the time.
If I'm not mistaken Socks the Cat ( Bill Clinton's kitten) was the last White House feline.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 05, 2023, 06:55:52 PM
If I'm not mistaken Socks the Cat ( Bill Clinton's kitten) was the last White House feline.
Monica came later.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2023, 07:05:08 PM
Monica came later.
Lenny----I didn't type "kitten". I typed a synonym which got auto-corrected. I believe I violated acceptable standards.
Quote from: Jockey on October 05, 2023, 05:15:43 PM
Virtually always an owner problem.
So do we need to put down Joe or Jill? Both?
Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on October 05, 2023, 05:25:46 PM
Presidents should just get cats. They don't care where their owner is most of the time.
I laughed at "their owner".
Dogs have owners. Cats have staff.
Feed it to a manatee.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2023, 07:05:08 PM
Monica came later.
That was Bill. Her dress was ruined as a result.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 05, 2023, 08:08:42 PM
I laughed at "their owner". Dogs have owners. Cats have staff.
Good catch. You are correct.
About the idea that dogs are a reflection of their owners ...
And where is PETA?
Joe Biden kicks his dog in the head and people wonder why the dog is biting people in the White House!?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyCkSJEtSxq/
Commander is not the first Biden Doig that bit people in the White House. His Dog Major (also a German Shepherd) had to be relocated back to their Delaware house in early 2021 because he was also biting WH staff.
He even has his own Wiki page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_(Joe_Biden%27s_dog)
Dogs are a reflection of their owners.