https://twitter.com/painttouches/status/1669807260300632069?s=61&t=prAH4zbz32m1qVH1NHMuBg
The work goes on.
Hell yeah!
LFG!!!!
Nice. Like the little glimpses of the Frosh.
Looks like a couple guys were hitting the weights pretty hard.
Defense in shambles
Quote from: THRILLHO on June 17, 2023, 08:24:20 PM
Defense in shambles
Not sure I saw a single rebound. What is Shaka doing?
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1673810014060916739/photo/1
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1673809691812540417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1673810014060916739%7Ctwgr%5Ed846d3cca16c2c0f8bff9ebb4fda688c012c2b6f%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fmarquette%2Fboard%2F104085%2FContents%2Flooking-backa-great-kam-stretch-212164321%2F%3Fpage%3D1
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1674162895339356161?s=61&t=796ThAWBM2FTYrsaOMTqSQ
Reportedly, Stevie can dunk off of either foot and has improved his 3 pt shot.
What if Stevie improves this offseason the way Oso, Kolek and Kam did last offseason?
Far too many folks -- not just Marquette fans or Scoopers, but fans of all teams -- don't take into account player improvement/development.
For us, even after having witnessed players improve significantly during Shaka's first two seasons, plenty of MU fans don't offer it as even a possibility for the upcoming season, let alone a likelihood.
Stevie knows that the only way he makes the NBA is as a PG. IMO, we are seeing him make moves like this because of an emphasis on playmaking, creating his own shot, and finishing through contact. Stevie improved in those three categories on top of his defense will be tough.
And I was pushing development a year ago.
Quote from: tower912 on June 29, 2023, 11:05:29 AM
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1674162895339356161?s=61&t=796ThAWBM2FTYrsaOMTqSQ
Reportedly, Stevie can dunk off of either foot and has improved his 3 pt shot.
If Stevie starts hitting 3s at a better clip than last year, he is going to be dangerous.
Quote from: tower912 on June 29, 2023, 11:33:05 AM
Stevie knows that the only way he makes the NBA is as a PG.
Wat
IMO, Stevie is the guy that I think can make the most improvement going into next season. When he was confident on the offensive side of the court last season the team looked very good. I am expecting that he will be the guy that shows the most improvement going into next season.
Yeah he was a big scorer in high school, his defensive menace role was a bit of a surprise. I wouldn't be surprised at all if stevie is quite a bit better on the other end of the floor this year.
These guys are looking jacked. They have not been messing around the past couple months.
#WojoLives
Stevie is going to have a breakout year. Mark my words.
This team is going to be ELITE.
Quote from: Coleman on June 29, 2023, 12:43:53 PM
Stevie is going to have a breakout year. Mark my words.
This team is going to be ELITE.
I agree with this analysis
Quote from: Coleman on June 29, 2023, 12:43:53 PM
Stevie is going to have a breakout year. Mark my words.
This team is going to be ELITE.
Wasn't last season his break-out year? :)
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2023, 11:18:48 AM
What if Stevie improves this offseason the way Oso, Kolek and Kam did last offseason?
Far too many folks -- not just Marquette fans or Scoopers, but fans of all teams -- don't take into account player improvement/development.
For us, even after having witnessed players improve significantly during Shaka's first two seasons, plenty of MU fans don't offer it as even a possibility for the upcoming season, let alone a likelihood.
If Jop and Stevie each get 10% better than last year, we will be an improved team, even after losing OMax. That development alone will more than make up for the loss. Any added value from Kolek, Oso, Kam or Gold is just gravy (I do also expect Gold to take a huge step forward as our 6th man playing 20+ mpg at the 4 and the 5). And that isn't even taking freshmen into consideration. This team is going to be loaded.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 29, 2023, 12:48:43 PM
Wasn't last season his break-out year? :)
I would say no. He was an incredible contributor defensively but I think he is still under the radar due to his 7 ppg. I would not be surprised if that doubled.
Quote from: Coleman on June 29, 2023, 12:51:01 PM
I would say no. He was an incredible contributor defensively but I think he is still under the radar due to his 7 ppg. I would not be surprised if that doubled.
I'd take that action (pawz)
$10; 10 to 1 odds. If Stevie doubles his ppg, you get $100. If he does not, I get $10. You in?
You only have one ball, it's not like he is going to double his scoring output, but hopefully he can hit more wide open shots with confidence as the other two guards will do most of the scoring. Throw in Oso and Joplin, who loves to shoot, not sure he is getting many more shots as last year.
Yeah, gaudy predictions like Kam averaging 25, Kolek averaging 20 and Stevie doubling his average ... none is likely to happen in this offense.
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2023, 02:21:20 PM
Yeah, gaudy predictions like Kam averaging 25, Kolek averaging 20 and Stevie doubling his average ... none is likely to happen in this offense.
I predict that Joplin is the team's leading scorer.
doubling his ppg is only another 7 per game.
Omax averaged 12. There is room for someone to pick those up
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 29, 2023, 01:18:41 PM
I'd take that action (pawz)
$10; 10 to 1 odds. If Stevie doubles his ppg, you get $100. If he does not, I get $10. You in?
Sure.
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2023, 02:21:20 PM
Yeah, gaudy predictions like Kam averaging 25, Kolek averaging 20 and Stevie doubling his average ... none is likely to happen in this offense.
Don't forget Goldy to the NBA lottery...
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2023, 02:21:20 PM
Yeah, gaudy predictions like Kam averaging 25, Kolek averaging 20 and Stevie doubling his average ... none is likely to happen in this offense.
Yeah Kam isn't going to average 25 or Kolek 20, they only averaged 15 and 12 respectively last year. Something in this realm is possible though:
Kam 16
Kolek 14
Stevie 14
Jop 15
Oso 12
Gold 8
Quote from: Coleman on June 29, 2023, 02:37:07 PM
Yeah Kam isn't going to average 25 or Kolek 20, they only averaged 15 and 12 respectively last year. Something in this realm is possible though:
Kam 16
Kolek 14
Stevie 14
Jop 15
Oso 12
Gold 8
Dont forget Chase Ross
Quote from: Coleman on June 29, 2023, 02:37:07 PM
Yeah Kam isn't going to average 25 or Kolek 20, they only averaged 15 and 12 respectively last year. Something in this realm is possible though:
Kam 16
Kolek 14
Stevie 14
Jop 15
Oso 12
Gold 8
I don't think that's very realistic. That's 79 ppg from 6 players. Players 7-end of bench averaged 13.3 ppg for Marquette last year. Even if you drop it to 10 ppg next year, that's still 89 ppg. The highest team ppg average in the power 6 conferences was Arizona at 81.9.
Quote from: Coleman on June 29, 2023, 02:37:07 PM
Yeah Kam isn't going to average 25 or Kolek 20, they only averaged 15 and 12 respectively last year. Something in this realm is possible though:
Kam 16
Kolek 14
Stevie 14
Jop 15
Oso 12
Gold 8
Lol
Thanks for the $10 tho
Quote from: wadesworld on June 29, 2023, 02:41:48 PM
I don't think that's very realistic. That's 79 ppg from 6 players. Players 7-end of bench averaged 13.3 ppg for Marquette last year. Even if you drop it to 10 ppg next year, that's still 89 ppg. The highest team ppg average in the power 6 conferences was Arizona at 81.9.
Agree. There simply aren't enough points to go around.
As at least one fellow Scooper said, I can see several or our heroes having 20-point games, and some having numerous 20-point games. But averaging 20? Hard to envision it.
Yeah, i dunno about 14 ppg for stevie, but I'd set the over under at like 11.9 for him next year off the top of the dome.
Just by way of thin front court Amadou is going to get good run I'm sure.
Also Zaide Lowery looks like very Chase-Rossesque in that he will be hard to keep off the court at times.
So much talent.
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1674523366789718017?t=MZAbsHQuEI_tExwHlBpkuQ&s=19
Good stuff
I was at a golf outing Monday and Nevada Smith was there afterwards to say a few words (lots of MU Alum ther). He said Oso is working on his three point shot. At one practice he hit 6 of 8. Unguarded, but 6 of 8. And he continues to work on it.
Let's see if he can hit a three when the lights are on!
Quote from: BCHoopster on June 29, 2023, 05:20:15 PM
Let's see if he can hit a three when the lights are on!
More impressive if he can do it with the lights off
Quote from: Coleman on June 29, 2023, 02:37:07 PM
Yeah Kam isn't going to average 25 or Kolek 20, they only averaged 15 and 12 respectively last year. Something in this realm is possible though:
Kam 16
Kolek 14
Stevie 14
Jop 15
Oso 12
Gold 8
We have come a long ways since only scoring in the 50's a couple years ago.
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2023, 02:21:20 PM
Yeah, gaudy predictions like Kam averaging 25, Kolek averaging 20 and Stevie doubling his average ... none is likely to happen in this offense.
Come on... I'm pretty sure we're going to average 100 a game.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 29, 2023, 04:38:53 PM
Just by way of thin front court Amadou is going to get good run I'm sure.
Also Zaide Lowery looks like very Chase-Rossesque in that he will be hard to keep off the court at times.
So much talent.
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1674523366789718017?t=MZAbsHQuEI_tExwHlBpkuQ&s=19
I can't remember the last time I was so pumped about the upcoming season. Let's get the damn thing going!
Quote from: mugrad_89 on June 29, 2023, 07:32:48 PM
I can't remember the last time I was so pumped about the upcoming season. Let's get the damn thing going!
There's a very good chance we're preseason top 10. When's the last time that happened?
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2023, 02:21:20 PM
Yeah, gaudy predictions like Kam averaging 25, Kolek averaging 20 and Stevie doubling his average ... none is likely to happen in this offense.
I'd guess Stevie at something more along the lines of 9.5, maybe 10 if he really does improve his 3P%.
The most important thing without question is improving his FT%, as everyone of us will agree.
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2023, 02:21:20 PM
Yeah, gaudy predictions like Kam averaging 25, Kolek averaging 20 and Stevie doubling his average ... none is likely to happen in this offense.
The team is too good. If only one of those guys was returning maybe 25, 20 or 14 is realistic. But with this many options it's not going to happen
Quote from: PointWarrior on June 29, 2023, 05:44:31 PM
We have come a long ways since only scoring in the 50's a couple years ago.
Ha! That's funny and so true.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 29, 2023, 09:11:17 PM
The team is too good. If only one of those guys was returning maybe 25, 20 or 14 is realistic. But with this many options it's not going to happen
Yep.
Can Jop improve defensively?
I would be beyond jacked if Stevie gave them 9ppg, especially without having 2-3 games that pad that number. If he can keep the other teams D honest, they might have a better offer next season than this past season.
Jay Bee is correct on it is going to be hard to match some of the individual shooting numbers , but I think there will be big improvement in Gold and Ross in that regard.
Starting to get excited for the upcoming season.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 29, 2023, 10:21:15 PM
Can Jop improve defensively?
Haha.....no....its not possible.
Quote from: We R Final Four on June 30, 2023, 07:16:29 AM
Haha.....no....its not possible.
I'd still like to add a big but I'm eager to see Jop and Benny's improvements.
Quote from: romey on June 29, 2023, 05:00:06 PM
I was at a golf outing Monday and Nevada Smith was there afterwards to say a few words (lots of MU Alum ther). He said Oso is working on his three point shot. At one practice he hit 6 of 8. Unguarded, but 6 of 8. And he continues to work on it.
Reminds me of Davante Gardner.
Even if Oso can make a three, he is not likely to take many threes.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 29, 2023, 07:49:20 PM
There's a very good chance we're preseason top 10. When's the last time that happened?
Probably 1978.
It's been awhile. I'm excited for this team but I want to get closer to November 1 before I begin to book my Final Four trip. I'm a little jaundiced because I see our NCAA Championship team and our McGuire era teams and those teams had far more talent than what I see here. But here, I see a Coach in Shaka who gets everything he can and then some from his players.
I sometimes wonder if Shaka had coached a McGuire team, how many Nattys would we have had? Would Bill Neary be one of the five best Warriors ever?
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 29, 2023, 10:21:15 PM
Can Jop improve defensively?
I think so, given he is working hard on his conditioning.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 29, 2023, 10:21:15 PM
Can Jop improve defensively?
Can? Of course. But how much may be the most important question of the season.
Assuming a starting lineup of the returning 4 plus jop... last season that lineup was offensively elite...but abysmal defensively. Jops frame and athlericism limits his ceiling as a defensive player but i don't doubt fir a second that he won't improve and move closer to that ceiling next season. Others will also have to improve to compensate for the defensive drop off from Omax to Joplin.
I thought Joplin was getting better with his defensive awareness especially as the season went on, and he seemed to be pretty competent defending the post at times. I expect him to be at least passable this coming season, I believe in the guy and the staff.
Quote from: Pepe Sylvia on June 30, 2023, 10:06:24 AM
I thought Joplin was getting better with his defensive awareness especially as the season went on, and he seemed to be pretty competent defending the post at times. I expect him to be at least passable this coming season, I believe in the guy and the staff.
Same, I think he struggles with switching on defense though. He isn't nearly as quick as the other guys on the team. I think he'll get better in the off season, but I'm not sure his defensive ceiling is high enough for him to be a reliable defender. I hope to be proven wrong.
Quote from: Pepe Sylvia on June 30, 2023, 10:06:24 AM
I thought Joplin was getting better with his defensive awareness especially as the season went on, and he seemed to be pretty competent defending the post at times. I expect him to be at least passable this coming season, I believe in the guy and the staff.
Statistically, Joplin's freshman year defense and sophomore year defense were similar, granted he hardly played as a freshman and had a fair few blocks for his limited minutes.
However, his offense greatly improved last year despite his inability to score at the rim last year.
Kam Jones was the player whose defense improved.
Grow and develop. Get better each day and each season. That's Marquette's path to glory. You should expect each player to do exactly that under the current regime.
Expecting them to stay static on either side of the court is wrong
They all get stronger, maybe taller with Oso, all the players had weaknesses to improve in the offseason. Italy trip will really help chemistry. We will see if the transfer portal would have made a difference.
The guards on this team are pretty extraordinary. There's only one ball but I'll take our crew vs any team in the USA
Quote from: jfp61 on June 30, 2023, 10:16:26 AM
Statistically, Joplin's freshman year defense and sophomore year defense were similar, granted he hardly played as a freshman and had a fair few blocks for his limited minutes.
However, his offense greatly improved last year despite his inability to score at the rim last year.
Kam Jones was the player whose defense improved.
Kam's defensive effort increased massively. He bought into what Shaka was selling. If he can get burned on the back cut a little less often I'll be happy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXS28ANTXD/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=01ecc39a-e260-48ad-9303-f5b1c6d2bb1a
Get to know Tre Norman.
Quote from: tower912 on July 06, 2023, 02:36:58 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXS28ANTXD/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=01ecc39a-e260-48ad-9303-f5b1c6d2bb1a
Get to know Tre Norman.
"Fun Fact when I was making my top 3, Just threw whatever other schools in there because really it was a top 1"
Maybe JFP, Brew, and others knew what they were talking about when they said that other programs stopped recruiting Norman last summer because they knew he was a Marquette lock
Quote from: tower912 on July 06, 2023, 02:36:58 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXS28ANTXD/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=01ecc39a-e260-48ad-9303-f5b1c6d2bb1a
Get to know Tre Norman.
Love this!
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 30, 2023, 08:04:30 AM
Probably 1978.
It's been awhile. I'm excited for this team but I want to get closer to November 1 before I begin to book my Final Four trip. I'm a little jaundiced because I see our NCAA Championship team and our McGuire era teams and those teams had far more talent than what I see here. But here, I see a Coach in Shaka who gets everything he can and then some from his players.
I sometimes wonder if Shaka had coached a McGuire team, how many Nattys would we have had? Would Bill Neary be one of the five best Warriors ever?
Are you saying, in less words, Shaka is a better game coach than Al?
I'm saying it, Al never had a shot clock or a 3 point line!
Quote from: Pepe Sylvia on July 10, 2023, 05:36:47 PM
I'm saying it, Al never had a shot clock or a 3 point line!
But he had aircraft carriers.
Al won with superior talent that played great D. Offensively he was maybe the worst coach at the time, simpleton O. If he let his team run they would have been just like the runnin rebels under Shark. Tatum, Walton and Lee and he is walking the ball up the court?
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1678508062938652672?s=46&t=OJ8v5OSYAchdmCLDsa-Kgw
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1678878571413078019?s=46&t=OJ8v5OSYAchdmCLDsa-Kgw
TKo with the RIGHT handed behind the back bounce pass.
Quote from: tower912 on July 12, 2023, 06:48:13 AM
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1678878571413078019?s=46&t=OJ8v5OSYAchdmCLDsa-Kgw
TKo with the RIGHT handed behind the back bounce pass.
Nice. Chase's ball fake and dunk weren't bad either.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on July 12, 2023, 07:46:39 AM
Nice. Chase's ball fake and dunk weren't bad either.
Looks like our 2fg% def is gonna blow again this year
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 12, 2023, 08:20:46 AM
Looks like our 2fg% def is gonna blow again this year
Pretty sure the fly by was a walk on.
Quote from: tower912 on July 12, 2023, 11:26:17 AM
Pretty sure the fly by was a walk on.
Starting center after injuries
Of course.
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1679248467988815872?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Zaide says hello
Quote from: tower912 on July 12, 2023, 06:01:42 PM
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1679248467988815872?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Zaide says hello
He has a bigger frame than I realized.
Quote from: tower912 on July 12, 2023, 06:01:42 PM
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1679248467988815872?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Zaide says hello
Excellent recruiting class this year. MU will have some solid depth.
This "get to know the freshman" series was great. Credit to the maligned #mubb social media team.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on July 12, 2023, 08:54:47 PM
This "get to know the freshman" series was great. Credit to the maligned #mubb social media team.
Great. Now maybe they can figure out how to broadcast games from Italy live back to the US. Like we did in (checks notes) 2016. ::)
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 12, 2023, 09:46:23 PM
Great. Now maybe they can figure out how to broadcast games from Italy live back to the US. Like we did in (checks notes) 2016. ::)
I still follow Tomas Bilde on IG.
I will forever think Traci Carter could be the next Tony Miller bc Tomas nicknamed him the Engine.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 12, 2023, 09:46:23 PM
Great. Now maybe they can figure out how to broadcast games from Italy live back to the US. Like we did in (checks notes) 2016. ::)
There was an article in The Atlantic today about NDs football media deal negotiations. Towards the end it mentions streaming their Spring Scrimmage on Peacock (trying to develop streaming platforms), use it as a vehicle to develop ND broadcasting talent (Kyle Rudolph), and to enhance and promote player NIL exposure (indirectly of course, Mr. NCAA).
And here sits MUMBB relying on video highlights...(knowing there are barriers to streaming and this isn't football). However, the next Big East media deal needs to better.
And, for some reason, MU has scaled back all pre-season fan events (BBQ, Al's Run, MM, Fish Fry, et al) that could influence NIL sales, and ramped up the big donor events (like this trip, the Chicago Shaka luncheon later the summer, golf outings). It's clear MU has shifted their marketing strategy to big donors. Maybe that's good overall (TBD), not so sure. But, I think their broad reach media strategy is weak.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 13, 2023, 09:26:48 AM
There was an article in The Atlantic today about NDs football media deal negotiations. Towards the end it mentions streaming their Spring Scrimmage on Peacock (trying to develop streaming platforms), use it as a vehicle to develop ND broadcasting talent (Kyle Rudolph), and to enhance and promote player NIL exposure (indirectly of course, Mr. NCAA).
And here sits MUMBB relying on video highlights...(knowing there are barriers to streaming and this isn't football). However, the next Big East media deal needs to better.
And, for some reason, MU has scaled back all pre-season fan events (BBQ, Al's Run, MM, Fish Fry, et al) that could influence NIL sales, and ramped up the big donor events (like this trip, the Chicago Shaka luncheon later the summer, golf outings). It's clear MU has shifted their marketing strategy to big donors. Maybe that's good overall (TBD), not so sure. But, I think their broad reach media strategy is weak.
ND football has a much larger following than MUBB. How many people are going to skip out of work to watch MU play some semi pro team in Europe, while having to pay for a Peacock subscription, in the middle of the summer?
The $25 donations won't do anything compared to the $6M donation the big donors will make.
Yeah, I can't imagine the cost of trying to live stream these games. And to what benefit exactly? The people who would take time out of their day to watch them are already pretty hard-core.
As far as the various grassroots marketing programs, I'm sure they have done a pretty thorough cost-benefit analysis about who was coming to those balanced with the cost of putting everything together.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on July 13, 2023, 09:40:31 AM
Yeah, I can't imagine the cost of trying to live stream these games. And to what benefit exactly? The people who would take time out of their day to watch them are already pretty hard-core.
As far as the various grassroots marketing programs, I'm sure they have done a pretty thorough cost-benefit analysis about who was coming to those balanced with the cost of putting everything together.
This weekend there was professional tag on a sports channel.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on July 13, 2023, 09:40:31 AM
Yeah, I can't imagine the cost of trying to live stream these games. And to what benefit exactly? The people who would take time out of their day to watch them are already pretty hard-core.
I kinda like the idea of using access to those games as an incentive for STH/donors. But I don't know that math on that, re: expected return vs. cost to produce.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on July 13, 2023, 10:37:00 AM
This weekend there was professional tag on a sports channel.
Yeah, we did this 8 years ago when streaming wasn't nearly as commonplace as it is now. It's just like the lack of streaming for events like Madness. It's not the difficulty that prevents this from being available to us.
The cost is not in the stream the cost is in the production quality. It's simply a business decision of what do you want to put out there. For a University that is used to FS2 being it's worst presentation, they may not want to put out a product that doesn't look like a Big East telecast.
Quote from: The Lens on July 13, 2023, 12:16:00 PM
The cost is not in the stream the cost is in the production quality. It's simply a business decision of what do you want to put out there. For a University that is used to FS2 being it's worst presentation, they may not want to put out a product that doesn't look like a Big East telecast.
its vs. it's
Quote from: The Lens on July 13, 2023, 12:16:00 PM
The cost is not in the stream the cost is in the production quality. It's simply a business decision of what do you want to put out there. For a University that is used to FS2 being it's worst presentation, they may not want to put out a product that doesn't look like a Big East telecast.
FS2 isn't the lowest quality production that the university uses. Have you watched the streaming services for the non-revenue sports that MUAD puts out? There is this thing now called YouTube that supports live streams. Hell, Dodds has even figured it out.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 13, 2023, 01:20:12 PM
FS2 isn't the lowest quality production that the university uses. Have you watched the streaming services for the non-revenue sports that MUAD puts out? There is this thing now called YouTube that supports live streams. Hell, Dodds has even figured it out.
I've spent years watching a lot of streaming college volleyball. Some of them are
really bad. The student who did Seton Hall's matches one year was hilarious. Terrible, but hilarious.
Georgetown's announcer was reasonably competent...but she really didn't understand volleyball. And Georgetown used the same damn ad (https://youtu.be/Jy4OUpcsHgk) for every break during all the years I watched -- and still do several years later. I've probably seen that thing
at least 1000 times - or at least heard it.
I meant for Men's Basketball.
You know, #MUMBB
;)
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 13, 2023, 09:26:48 AM
There was an article in The Atlantic today about NDs football media deal negotiations. Towards the end it mentions streaming their Spring Scrimmage on Peacock (trying to develop streaming platforms), use it as a vehicle to develop ND broadcasting talent (Kyle Rudolph), and to enhance and promote player NIL exposure (indirectly of course, Mr. NCAA).
And here sits MUMBB relying on video highlights...(knowing there are barriers to streaming and this isn't football). However, the next Big East media deal needs to better.
And, for some reason, MU has scaled back all pre-season fan events (BBQ, Al's Run, MM, Fish Fry, et al) that could influence NIL sales, and ramped up the big donor events (like this trip, the Chicago Shaka luncheon later the summer, golf outings). It's clear MU has shifted their marketing strategy to big donors. Maybe that's good overall (TBD), not so sure. But, I think their broad reach media strategy is weak.
Who do you think is funding the NIL deals?
Quote from: The Lens on July 13, 2023, 03:53:59 PM
I meant for Men's Basketball.
You know, #MUMBB
;)
#Pete Gillen|Dickie Simpkins fan
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 13, 2023, 04:45:11 PM
Who do you think is funding the NIL deals?
Those two rows at FiFo are spoken for then. Great NIL ROI by selling Kolek jerseys to 50 people.
As I said nothing wrong with Scholl snuffleuppling to the big donors but not marketing to the masses is eventually bad for business.
anyone know the art of blow-painting with straws? i heard some of those masterpieces are going for $500k and up...gotta have some artists here in the crowd donate their talents for a good cause, eyn'er?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 13, 2023, 07:53:23 PM
Those two rows at FiFo are spoken for then. Great NIL ROI by selling Kolek jerseys to 50 people.
As I said nothing wrong with Scholl snuffleuppling to the big donors but not marketing to the masses is eventually bad for business.
Agreed. The ROI on all events may not be amazing, but fostering a community, building a brand, and finding new donors that can become large donors is important.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on July 14, 2023, 06:17:12 AM
Agreed. The ROI on all events may not be amazing, but fostering a community, building a brand, and finding new donors that can become large donors is important.
As Al used to say: The funny thing about poor 25 year olds is they sometimes become really rich 50 year olds.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on July 14, 2023, 06:17:12 AM
Agreed. The ROI on all events may not be amazing, but fostering a community, building a brand, and finding new donors that can become large donors is important.
Ah, these are the eternal questions of alumni engagement. Does involvement at a younger age always mean engagement later on? Does it correlate to giving?
What is engagement anyway? Is it the traditional, event-based model? Or can engagement simply following #mumbb on Twitter?
How much resources (including time) should be devoted to engaging people whose pay-off comes years or decades down the road when you have immediate needs now?
Quote from: The Lens on July 14, 2023, 10:03:47 AM
As Al used to say: The funny thing about poor 25 year olds is they sometimes become really rich 50 year olds.
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Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on July 14, 2023, 10:28:25 AM
Ah, these are the eternal questions of alumni engagement. Does involvement at a younger age always mean engagement later on? Does it correlate to giving?
What is engagement anyway? Is it the traditional, event-based model? Or can engagement simply following #mumbb on Twitter?
How much resources (including time) should be devoted to engaging people whose pay-off comes years or decades down the road when you have immediate needs now?
Yep, and to answer some of those questions, ya gotta try.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on July 14, 2023, 10:30:53 AM
Yep, and to answer some of those questions, ya gotta try.
And MU should know the upside (Al, Crean, Buzz, Shaka) and downside (Dukiet, Wojo) as case studies.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on July 14, 2023, 10:28:25 AM
Ah, these are the eternal questions of alumni engagement. Does involvement at a younger age always mean engagement later on? Does it correlate to giving?
What is engagement anyway? Is it the traditional, event-based model? Or can engagement simply following #mumbb on Twitter?
How much resources (including time) should be devoted to engaging people whose pay-off comes years or decades down the road when you have immediate needs now?
With decades of experience, MU likely knows exactly how effective those low-level alumni events are at turning out
profit down the road.
And it's probably worth noting that one of MU's
strongest boosters was not an alum at all and therefore unlikely to have been influenced by a cookout, race, ice cream social, or picnic when he was 25.
Quote from: withoutbias on July 13, 2023, 09:35:38 AM
ND football has a much larger following than MUBB. How many people are going to skip out of work to watch MU play some semi pro team in Europe, while having to pay for a Peacock subscription, in the middle of the summer?
The $25 donations won't do anything compared to the $6M donation the big donors will make.
Me. That's one.
Quote from: milwaukee ex-pat on July 16, 2023, 11:35:19 AM
Me. That's one.
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https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1681740692857536512?s=46&t=O
Omax giving Shaka the credit.
In homage of tower:
There seem to be many finish lines
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Bravo.