I tried as hard as I could in my prime but wasn't really close. It's tough being 5'4. Anyway, what is our dunk % here?
0.01%. Ners.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 05, 2023, 10:01:51 PM
0.01%. Ners.
No one then? I find that hard to believe.
I'd guess slightly under 1%. A little higher than the average population, because we probably have more former players on here.
Quote from: forgetful on April 05, 2023, 10:05:17 PM
I'd guess slightly under 1%. A little higher than the average population, because we probably have more former players on here.
Which NBA guy had the highest vert? Spud had a legitimate '47. I've heard D. Thompson had a '48 but I'm not sure it's verified. Mannigault by all accounts had a '50-52.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 05, 2023, 10:10:01 PM
Which NBA guy had the highest vert? Spud had a legitimate '47. I've heard D. Thompson had a '48 but I'm not sure it's verified. Mannigault by all accounts had a '50-52.
Don't be silly. No one has a 50" vertical.
I also don't get the obsession with dunking. I was a decent athlete - nothing great - but at 6'2.5" dunking is not a great accomplishment.
Jim Leonhard could dunk- 5'8" white guy.
https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball/status/903287714157645825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E903287714157645825%7Ctwgr%5Ef21e06d9c28c5561207bb614daeb185f9697a822%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsaturdaytradition.com%2Fwisconsin-football%2Fwatch-wisconsin-defensive-coordinator-jim-leonard-hops%2F
You can just make a poll, you know.
If you can't dunk, you don't know ball
Not to brag, but I was playing one on one with a neighbor and dunked on his punk *ss this past weekend. Teach that first grader to mess with those that know ball. Easily skied on that 6 ft rim. ;D
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 06, 2023, 07:18:42 AM
Not to brag, but I was playing one on one with a neighbor and dunked on his punk *ss this past weekend. Teach that first grader to mess with those that know ball. Easily skied on that 6 ft rim. ;D
Also not to brag, but I had the most beautiful air ball that anyone ever saw. Sometimes the ball gently swished the outside of the net, leaving anyone watching astounded by my shot. Their mouths were agape after seeing that I could shoot that air ball again and again.
As an aside, why the hell would anyone dunk their doughnuts in coffee? Ruins a perfectly good doughnut, and a perfectly good cup of coffee.
With my accuracy, I was the worst nightmare of whomever was sitting on the perch at the dunk tank.
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 06, 2023, 07:18:42 AM
Not to brag, but I was playing one on one with a neighbor and dunked on his punk *ss this past weekend. Teach that first grader to mess with those that know ball. Easily skied on that 6 ft rim. ;D
One-handed or two?
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 06, 2023, 07:48:15 AM
As an aside, why the hell would anyone dunk their doughnuts in coffee? Ruins a perfectly good doughnut, and a perfectly good cup of coffee.
Word.
On my best day, I could grab the rim...barely.
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 06, 2023, 07:48:15 AM
As an aside, why the hell would anyone dunk their doughnuts in coffee? Ruins a perfectly good doughnut, and a perfectly good cup of coffee.
Thank you! Never understood that one
I'm 6' but small hands, so I could dunk a woman's ball until about age 22.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 06, 2023, 09:16:59 AM
I'm 6' but small hands, so I could dunk a woman's ball until about age 22.
Sweet!
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 06, 2023, 08:55:36 AM
Thank you! Never understood that one
It's idiotic. The 🍩 is also a stupid invention.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 09:18:58 AM
It's idiotic. The 🍩 is also a stupid invention.
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Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 09:18:58 AM
It's idiotic. The 🍩 is also a stupid invention.
Always had your back Muggsy, but you are dead to me now. You clearly have not had a good doughnut.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 09:18:58 AM
It's idiotic. The 🍩 is also a stupid invention.
You can dunk manatee into coffee
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 09:18:58 AM
It's idiotic. The 🍩 is also a stupid invention.
Allegedly, the donut was invented when a cook on a ship served fried dough to the sailors and the dough in the center was not fully cooked, resulting in some sailors getting
really sick. The hole in the center solved the problem after that, and the cook did not have to walk the plank.
Also, people who eat donuts as kids grow up to be taller as adults than those who do not.
Quote from: Jockey on April 05, 2023, 11:15:48 PM
Don't be silly. No one has a 50" vertical.
I also don't get the obsession with dunking. I was a decent athlete - nothing great - but at 6'2.5" dunking is not a great accomplishment.
Agreed, true highlight dunking is awesome, but just the "barely get it in one handed" is just whatever. I had an assistant coach in youth basketball, a teammate's father, who was probably 6'4. Every couple of practices at the end, he'd take a running start from mid court and get up and barely stuff a one hander. Some kids without fail would lose their minds every time. It was kind of amusing in retrospect. I'm just shy of 5'11 and could grab rim once I started doing lower body workouts in my early 20s. That was cool. Beats the 6'7 guy I knew in college who based a ton of his personality (and terrible game with girls) with being tall...but couldn't dunk.
Also agree with all the Muggsy opposition when it comes to donuts. They are amazing when done well. Nothing better than a donut with a great K Cup.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 06, 2023, 09:32:18 AM
Allegedly, the donut was invented when a cook on a ship served fried dough to the sailors and the dough in the center was not fully cooked, resulting in some sailors getting really sick. The hole in the center solved the problem after that, and the cook did not have to walk the plank.
Also, people who eat donuts as kids grow up to be taller as adults than those who do not.
You just made up that last sentence. We will never truly be free Scoop Snoop until our shorter citizens are treated with respect.
There are a dozen or more fried dough things or pastries that are vastly superior to 🍩. It's not close.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 09:44:35 AM
You just made up that last sentence. We will never truly be free Scoop Snoop until our shorter citizens are treated with respect.
I thought the key word was diminutive. And no, I did not make it up. There have been numerous scientifically controlled university studies from all over the world that prove what I wrote. Just trust me on this Muggsy, OK? I can't find the studies at the moment.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 06, 2023, 09:56:58 AM
I thought the key word was diminutive. And no, I did not make it up. There have been numerous scientifically controlled university studies from all over the world that prove what I wrote. Just trust me on this Muggsy, OK? I can't find the studies at the moment.
Uh-Huh. There are however studies that people who suffer from anxiety do live longer
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 09:44:35 AM
You just made up that last sentence. We will never truly be free Scoop Snoop until our shorter citizens are treated with respect.
The statement seems legit to me. I ate donuts growing up, and I am taller than 6' and could dunk. Seems like eating donuts as a kid makes you taller and more likely to be able to dunk.
Also, I eat fewer donuts now, and am shrinking and can't dunk anymore. Seems like confirmation by scientific experiment.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 09:48:28 AM
There are a dozen or more fried dough things or pastries that are vastly superior to 🍩. It's not close.
Well, I will say that I prefer a good apple fritter to just an ordinary everyday donut. But I've also had a few incredible donuts that are superior.
As for dunking ... when I lived in suburban Minneapolis I had a friend who worked at the Y and, after hours, he'd sometimes lower the rims to 8 1/2 feet and we'd get 6-8 folks and play full court. It always turned into a dunk-a-thon. Good fun for a bunch of vertically challenged guys.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 10:06:19 AM
Uh-Huh. There are however studies that people who suffer from anxiety do live longer
But those without anxiety just don't give af
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2023, 12:53:31 PM
Well, I will say that I prefer a good apple fritter to just an ordinary everyday donut. But I've also had a few incredible donuts that are superior.
I agree completely. And buttermilk bars.
There's a donut place along the MD/DE/NJ shore called The Fractured Prune that is outstanding.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 10:06:19 AM
Uh-Huh. There are however studies that people who suffer from anxiety do live longer
Yeah. That's only because they drive everyone around them so crazy with their effin' anxieties that they commit suicide. Otherwise, calm, rational people would live longer. Nice goin' Muggs.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 06, 2023, 02:29:39 PM
Yeah. That's only because they drive everyone around them so crazy with their effin' anxieties that they commit suicide. Otherwise, calm, rational people would live longer. Nice goin' Muggs.
Nope. It's because we're more prone to seek help from doctors and ask a few questions.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 06, 2023, 05:44:01 PM
Nope. It's because we're more prone to seek help from doctors and ask a few questions.
I
DO get the "seeking help" part.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 06, 2023, 06:12:09 PM
I DO get the "seeking help" part.
Driving people crazy relaxes me a little bit. :)
Scoopers dunking
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Quote from: Jockey on April 05, 2023, 11:15:48 PM
Don't be silly. No one has a 50" vertical.
I also don't get the obsession with dunking. I was a decent athlete - nothing great - but at 6'2.5" dunking is not a great accomplishment.
How many NBA Hall of Famers could not dunk Jockey? Calvin Murphy? Archibald? Stockton?
Cousy.
My brother played against Calvin Murphy in high school. I was there but too young to remember. My brother says Murphy did whatever he wanted, often dribbled through the whole team before making a variety of layups, scored 30+ points. And Murphy's team (Norwalk HS) crushed my bro's (Jonathan Law HS).
Murphy didn't dunk in the game. It was against the rules.
Better question is how many Scoopers could drunk. I'd put it north of 98%.
I can't dunk.
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2023, 10:27:13 PM
My brother played against Calvin Murphy in high school. I was there but too young to remember. My brother says Murphy did whatever he wanted, often dribbled through the whole team before making a variety of layups, scored 30+ points. And Murphy's team (Norwalk HS) crushed my bro's (Jonathan Law HS).
Murphy didn't dunk in the game. It was against the rules.
Very disappointing there's not more video of him at Niagara. He was clearly an incredible shooter and scorer. He might have been a smaller Steph in this era?
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 07, 2023, 08:48:49 AM
Very disappointing there's not more video of him at Niagara. He was clearly an incredible shooter and scorer. He might have been a smaller Steph in this era?
Steph Curry is 1 of 1.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 07, 2023, 08:48:49 AM
Very disappointing there's not more video of him at Niagara. He was clearly an incredible shooter and scorer. He might have been a smaller Steph in this era?
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Calvin Murphy had 1 season in his career that he averaged more points...than Steph's career average (25.6 vs 24.8). He played 4 seasons with the 3pt line and hit 10 3s...total. As Hards said, Steph is 1 of 1 and the best shooter and potentially top 10-20 player of all time with unlimited range...that wasn't Murphy. Comparing Murphy to him is unnecessary. Murphy would be a better version of Isaiah Thomas (Kings and Cs Thomas, not Zeke).
Quote from: JWags85 on April 07, 2023, 11:55:02 AM
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Calvin Murphy had 1 season in his career that he averaged more points...than Steph's career average (25.6 vs 24.8). He played 4 seasons with the 3pt line and hit 10 3s...total. As Hards said, Steph is 1 of 1 and the best shooter and potentially top 10-20 player of all time with unlimited range...that wasn't Murphy. Comparing Murphy to him is unnecessary. Murphy would be a better version of Isaiah Thomas (Kings and Cs Thomas, not Zeke).
Yes, but he would have been trained completely differently now and shoot way more threes.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 06, 2023, 10:55:14 PM
Better question is how many Scoopers could drunk. I'd put it north of 98%.
I can't Dunk, but I did touch/grab the rim looooong time ago ! ! ! But I can definitely DRUNK ! ! ! I can DRUNK with the best of them ... Easy peasy for me, since I don't get Hangovers ! ! ! ;) I know my son "hates" me for it..... LOL 8-)
Quote from: JWags85 on April 07, 2023, 11:55:02 AM
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Calvin Murphy had 1 season in his career that he averaged more points...than Steph's career average (25.6 vs 24.8). He played 4 seasons with the 3pt line and hit 10 3s...total. As Hards said, Steph is 1 of 1 and the best shooter and potentially top 10-20 player of all time with unlimited range...that wasn't Murphy. Comparing Murphy to him is unnecessary. Murphy would be a better version of Isaiah Thomas (Kings and Cs Thomas, not Zeke).
All correct.
Murphy was a very good player- not great. But he was a tough guy. People didn't mess with him. Ask 6'8" Sidney Wicks. Murphy's comment was great. "I made him behave".
I'm 6'5": tall with a 1" vertical leap and average length arms.
So, on a regulation 10 foot basket, I get close but Nope!
As Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes Would Sing: "no no never, no no never dunk again!"
Quote from: Jockey on April 07, 2023, 04:19:31 PM
All correct.
Murphy was a very good player- not great. But he was a tough guy. People didn't mess with him. Ask 6'8" Sidney Wicks. Murphy's comment was great. "I made him behave".
He's in the NBA Hall of Fame, so I would say he was great
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 07, 2023, 04:53:26 PM
He's in the NBA Hall of Fame, so I would say he was great
He's honestly a puzzling HOF inclusion if we're being honest. If he played in the 80s or 90s with his career numbers and accolades, he wouldn't sniff the Hall.
18/2/4 for his career. Only made a single ASG in 13 seasons. Never was top 5 in the league in scoring in his best years. Being an incredible college player likely contributed to it more than his NBA career.
Tiny Archibald.
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 07, 2023, 04:53:26 PM
He's in the NBA Hall of Fame, so I would say he was great
There is no such thing as an NBA Hall of Fame.
Quote from: tower912 on April 07, 2023, 06:03:55 PM
Tiny Archibald.
I loved AND hated Tiny.
Loved watching him play, but it was for the Celtics.
Quote from: Jockey on April 07, 2023, 06:51:36 PM
There is no such thing as an NBA Hall of Fame.
semantics. He clearly was a great player if he is elected to the Hall of Fame.
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 07, 2023, 07:15:13 PM
semantics. He clearly was a great player if he is elected to the Hall of Fame.
He was considered a great college player. That is why he is in the HoF.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 07, 2023, 04:23:19 PM
I'm 6'5": tall with a 1" vertical leap and average length arms.
So, on a regulation 10 foot basket, I get close but Nope!
As Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes Would Sing: "no no never, no no never dunk again!"
Midget.
Thunderous breakaway one handed dunk at the rec center in 1981 still echoes in the rafters.
Don't ask me to do it today unless an ambulance is on standby.
Quote from: Jockey on April 06, 2023, 08:42:18 AM
One-handed or two?
Dude, what part of I know ball don't you understand? ;D
Quote from: real chili 83 on April 08, 2023, 07:01:21 AM
Midget.
Thunderous breakaway one handed dunk at the rec center in 1981 still echoes in the rafters.
Don't ask me to do it today unless an ambulance is on standby.
I dunked on a high Sam Worthen at the Rec Center the same year. That led to a 50 point run by Sam on the other end.
Our high water marks coincided
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 07, 2023, 07:15:13 PM
semantics. He clearly was a great player if he is elected to the Hall of Fame.
Christian Laettner is in the Hall of Fame.
Every decade on my birthday, starting at 30, I would try to see if I could still do some of the physical things I could do when I was younger (flat and incline bench 225, dunk, etc.). Even had a name for it. "The Holy F*ck I'm [insert age here] Challenge".
Sad to say once I hit 40 I lost the dunk. I think the last time I remember being able to do it was 36 or 37.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 08, 2023, 06:51:48 PM
Every decade on my birthday, starting at 30, I would try to see if I could still do some of the physical things I could do when I was younger (flat and incline bench 225, dunk, etc.). Even had a name for it. "The Holy F*ck I'm [insert age here] Challenge".
Sad to say once I hit 40 I lost the dunk. I think the last time I remember being able to do it was 36 or 37.
The intersection of your age and belt size marks your decline in life. The Scoop Postulate is well-documented.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 08, 2023, 06:51:48 PM
Every decade on my birthday, starting at 30, I would try to see if I could still do some of the physical things I could do when I was younger (flat and incline bench 225, dunk, etc.). Even had a name for it. "The Holy F*ck I'm [insert age here] Challenge".
That's still not bad. I lost a lot of my quickness.
Sad to say once I hit 40 I lost the dunk. I think the last time I remember being able to do it was 36 or 37.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 08, 2023, 08:16:27 PM
The intersection of your age and belt size marks your decline in life. The Scoop Postulate is well-documented.
So as long as I keep getting fatter, I'm good?
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 08, 2023, 09:47:26 PM
So as long as I keep getting fatter, I'm good?
It's a big man's game, hey?
I was a terrible basketball player, but back in my volleyball prime I could dunk a volleyball pretty regularly and a basketball if it was tossed (couldn't palm it).
I'd be lucky to touch backboard these days.
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 08, 2023, 09:47:26 PM
So as long as I keep getting fatter, I'm good?
Beats the next best alternative.
I could graze the rim in college.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on April 11, 2023, 09:09:16 AM
I could graze the rim in college.
With your fingers or the ball?
I'm 6'2" and have a pretty long wingspan.
Back in the day I could touch the rim with one hand but not get the ball over. I could fake dunk by floating it over and pulling down on the rim.
I'd be happy to get within 6" of the rim these days.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 11, 2023, 07:40:21 PM
Therein lies the answer to your question...
Why stop at fingers, aina?
6'3" very limited hops.
Tennis ball, yes; 16" softball, check; volleyball, I would claim it; basketball, never.
I HAVE A BIG CRANK on my bballhoop. Last year I lowered it. Maybe to 8.5" but probably closer to 7.
Tried to get cute with a couple dunks and nearly maimed myself. It's back to 10" and I'm happy with my layups
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 07, 2023, 04:23:19 PM
I'm 6'5": tall with a 1" vertical leap and average length arms.
A one-inch vertical? Even Davante's was better than that!