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Nice. Thanks for sharing.
Watched it. Shaka was in a great mood.
Ended around 12:50 for those just seeing the post now.
"I don't wanna speak for any of our guys specifically, but I do think we'll have a good group of guys coming back from this year's team"
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 31, 2023, 12:55:39 PM
"I don't wanna speak for any of our guys specifically, but I do think we'll have a good group of guys coming back from this year's team"
That means more guys are leaving
He also talked about how he's grown most as a coach (and still working on) which is accepting that he cannot control everything. Referenced Jim Larranaga as the coach who does that best and a testament to why his team is still playing this weekend.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2023, 01:00:36 PM
That means more guys are leaving
Crap - why haven't we reached out to more transfers yet???? 😱
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2023, 01:00:36 PM
That means more guys are leaving
I think it means MU is moving to Division III.
This quote disturbed me:
Pretty sure that
I can say that more guys will stay than
Leave.
Are we going to use the portal?
Really don't know. We have a tendancy to
Zig when others zag.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2023, 01:00:36 PM
That means more guys are leaving
Or we already had 3 guys put in the portal...but whatever you want to believe.
Quote from: The Lens on March 31, 2023, 02:03:22 PM
This quote distrurbed me:
Pretty sure that
I can say that more guys will stay than
Leave.
Are we going to use the portal?
Really don't know. We have a tendancy to
Zig when others zag.
Well, he knows three are in the portal. And he probably doesn't know what will happen regarding declaring for NBA. So could be another two right? Did we have 12 scholarship players? I'd so, 3 iin portal 2 maybe trying out NBA .... 7 stay. More stay than leave.
Quote from: Daniel on March 31, 2023, 06:48:24 PM
Well, he knows three are in the portal. And he probably doesn't know what will happen regarding declaring for NBA. So could be another two right? Did we have 12 scholarship players? I'd so, 3 iin portal 2 maybe trying out NBA .... 7 stay. More stay than leave.
Only 1 guy has a shot at the NBA. And its long
Shaka's comments clearly shaded optimistic. I'd expect one or zero transfers from the rotation.
Hard to take anything from that related to potential transfers...but Shaka getting carded at the bar is hilarious.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 31, 2023, 11:02:32 PM
Only 1 guy has a shot at the NBA. And its long
Probably true, but you never know what will happen. Vander Blue, Lewis - you never know wha5 advice they will get. I'm just saying maybe Shaka does not know either so he had to sensitize his comments
Quote from: Daniel on April 01, 2023, 08:28:34 AM
Probably true, but you never know what will happen. Vander Blue, Lewis - you never know wha5 advice they will get. I'm just saying maybe Shaka does not know either so he had to sensitize his comments
I don't think Shaka is worried about the NBA...
Quote from: Daniel on April 01, 2023, 08:28:34 AM
Probably true, but you never know what will happen. Vander Blue, Lewis - you never know wha5 advice they will get. I'm just saying maybe Shaka does not know either so he had to sensitize his comments
True. And some guys just don't like college. I'd guess 99% of guys know where they are (or are not) slotted in the draft and are not surprised by not being drafted; they are just done with school.
Quote from: Daniel on April 01, 2023, 08:28:34 AM
Probably true, but you never know what will happen. Vander Blue, Lewis - you never know wha5 advice they will get. I'm just saying maybe Shaka does not know either so he had to sensitize his comments
Even OMax—the "one guy" we think could go—doesn't have as good of prospects as Lewis did. He's probably somewhere between Lewis and Vander in terms of feasible path to the NBA.
The only other player with even a Vander-level prayer of making it within the next two years is Oso, and he seems like a very level-headed guy who wouldn't be likely to overrate his path to the pros. Between that and NIL incentives, I'd be shocked if he went.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on April 01, 2023, 09:51:19 AM
Even OMax—the "one guy" we think could go—doesn't have as good of prospects as Lewis did. He's probably somewhere between Lewis and Vander in terms of feasible path to the NBA.
The only other player with even a Vander-level prayer of making it within the next two years is Oso, and he seems like a very level-headed guy who wouldn't be likely to overrate his path to the pros. Between that and NIL incentives, I'd be shocked if he went.
I think Shaka will have a rather easy task of getting top level replacements if/when transfers occur. A larger concern to me is what Goose has written about at length and Shaka has relentlessly talked about-the culture. Even if new guy(s) have the right attitude, it simply takes time for relationships to gel. That and the new guy(s) ability to anticipate teammates' moves and playing styles.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on April 01, 2023, 09:51:19 AM
Even OMax—the "one guy" we think could go—doesn't have as good of prospects as Lewis did. He's probably somewhere between Lewis and Vander in terms of feasible path to the NBA.
The only other player with even a Vander-level prayer of making it within the next two years is Oso, and he seems like a very level-headed guy who wouldn't be likely to overrate his path to the pros. Between that and NIL incentives, I'd be shocked if he went.
I would disagree with that.
OMax is taller, better with the ball, better shooter, better defender.
I think OMax has a chance to get drafted whenever it is that he decides to enter.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2023, 01:39:37 PM
I would disagree with that.
OMax is taller, better with the ball, better shooter, better defender.
I think OMax has a chance to get drafted whenever it is that he decides to enter.
Disagree that OMax was clearly a better shooter. Lewis was also a better scorer and rebounder.
Vander
I have no idea if Omax will have a longer, or better, pro career than Lewis, but he is definitely a far better prospect, imo. He has all of the ingredients to be a very good pro player and time will tell how it plays out.
Physically, OMax is exactly what the NBA looks for. Fast, can defend 5 positions, can dribble with both hands, run the floor.
All he needs is to shoot a little better from 3, finish a little better through contact, and stay upright better. 8th man in a rotation somewhere.
I think O-Max is definitely a better NBA prospect. Everyone in the NBA can play offense, but O-Max is a better athlete, longer, and a much better and more mobile defender than Justin. They are pretty similar in terms of three-point efficiency. And from a body perspective, I think Justin's thickness may have worked against him. Not a lot of 6'7", 245 pound guys in the league.
Quote from: Goose on April 02, 2023, 07:48:28 AM
Vander
I have no idea if Omax will have a longer, or better, pro career than Lewis, but he is definitely a far better prospect, imo. He has all of the ingredients to be a very good pro player and time will tell how it plays out.
I was just commenting on some aspects of the comparison and not who was the better pro prospect.
I wouldn't agree that Omax is a "far" better prospect but he does fit more of what the league looks for.
It does feel like OMax should be a better rebounder than he is at the college level considering his size, length and athleticism.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2023, 01:39:37 PM
I would disagree with that.
OMax is taller, better with the ball, better shooter, better defender.
I think OMax has a chance to get drafted whenever it is that he decides to enter.
I wasn't very clear in my post. I also prefer OMax to Lewis as an NBA prospect long-term. But compared to Lewis declaring after his sophomore year, I think Prosper has a significantly lower chance of getting drafted or accruing significant minutes his first year in the pros if he leaves now. Though maybe that's overrating the analysis of draft prognosticators.
Omax will be a draft combine superstar. He can dominate in college with the skills he already possesses (athleticism/length)
But - He will greatly improve with a year or two of professional competition, playing lots of games and focusing completely on basketball.
He needs to challenge himself to improve and I don't think he'll see those significant improvements playing another two years in college.