LET'S FREAKING GOOOOO!!!!!!!
OWN THIS GAME!!!
:)
LFG!!!!
LFG!!
LFG 8-)
Goo Marquette!
I'd like to get out of the gates quickly.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2023, 04:11:11 PM
I'd like to get out of the gates quickly.
Let's see the focus they showed in the BET.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2023, 04:11:11 PM
I'd like to get out of the gates quickly.
From your mouth, Muggsy, to God's ears! Goo Marquette!
Going to DVR the game and finish watching LIV golf.
Joey/MU reference counter: 1
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 19, 2023, 04:17:24 PM
Joey/MU reference counter: 1
I'm curious how many times CBS cuts to Joey's parents. 😳
Quote from: tower912 on March 19, 2023, 04:15:52 PM
Going to DVR the game and finish watching LIV golf.
good one
Here's hoping both teams have fun and play hard. It's an incredible opportunity for these student athletes to participate in an amateur setting such as this. Play with joy and and do your best
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 19, 2023, 04:18:45 PM
I'm curious how many times CBS cuts to Joey's parents. 😳
LOL.
Quote from: tower912 on March 19, 2023, 04:15:52 PM
Going to DVR the game and finish watching LIV golf.
Fireballs running away with the Team Lead
Oosthuizen and CH3 battling for individual.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 19, 2023, 04:18:45 PM
I'm curious how many times CBS cuts to Joey's parents. 😳
Rumor is the pen and paper are ready.
8 guys didn't know it was stolen
WTF was that??
Hauler pulled Kolek down
Total BS
Whining about the refs already, lol!
Need to settle down. NOW.
Playing scared
Michigan State wants it. You can tell they are all business.
A real coach vs Shaka.
They need to play well enough in the 1st half to get to the good half
Not how we want the game to start. Lets settle down .
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 19, 2023, 04:26:38 PM
A real coach vs Shaka.
Why are you still here? Like actually seriously looking for an answer.
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/043/430/f45.jpg)
Gotta shake it off. Immediately. Move the ball offensively and play with way more force.
they are hitting some lucky shots. run some offense. we will be fine
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2023, 04:27:59 PM
Why are you still here? Like actually seriously looking for an answer.
You're worse than him. He's getting a rise out of you and you quote him.
Stop. Just stop. Let him post to the air.
Those of us that have him on ignored only see his BS because of people like you that quote him. Just stop!
Typical NCAA Tourney Shaka Smart
Man are they playing tight right now.
Getting schooled early.
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2023, 04:29:14 PM
You're worse than him. He's getting a rise out of you and you quote him.
Stop. Just stop. Let him post to the air.
Those of us that have him on ignored only see his BS because of people like you that quote him. Just stop!
No rise here. I'm genuinely curious why he's here.
They have gotten zero good looks. Playing rigid
We're fine. Kam is going to have to look ready to score though.
Unfortunately, the first 4 minutes of this game couldn't have gone any worse.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2023, 04:30:48 PM
No rise here. I'm genuinely curious why he's here.
has nothing better to do besides trying to piss off random people online
Jop was 4 foot behind the 3pt line and shot it like he was standing at it
Need to settle down and play our game. We are a bit rattled. Not moving the ball well, or shooting well. Goo Marquette!
Need more of that but gotta finish. Obviously a brutal 4 mins. We just need to calm down a play our game.
Reminds me of the Xavier game at home. Unbelievably tight.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 19, 2023, 04:31:13 PM
They have gotten zero good looks. Playing rigid
That's not true. We missed three open triples.
We will need to shoot the basketball very well. MSU really packing it in.
I told everyone MU wouldn't make it out of the first weekend and everybody would be happy to draw MU.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 19, 2023, 04:32:59 PM
Reminds me of the Xavier game at home. Unbelievably tight.
We're definitely tight. Frustrating start.
There you go. Good stop
Let's go now!
We are tight. Playin' decent defense tho.
Now we might not be fine.
Why has Kolek turned into a hack?
Ughhh. Why reach there??? Fk.
How is he in foul trouble every fucking game now? My god miss the entire half. Cost us the game? I've never seen it this bad.
Bullshit call. Shoots got saved
Been a real frustrating tournament from Kolek, a lot of it is on him with some really poor fouls.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2023, 04:35:47 PM
Now we might not be fine.
Why has Kolek turned into a hack?
That was just dumb.
You were guaranteed this when MU hired Shaka Smart. He's a shitty game coach and chokes in the NCAA's.
Texas was fed up and had had enough. Now they're on their way to a possible national title, while MU is humiliated in the second round.
Good lord is this a November game?
We look like weve never played basketball before
Well this is not good...msu guards best we've seen all year and we can't make anything
Chase is playing like a freshman today
Well this has started as bad as it possibly could.
Wow, MU's offense is just awful right now.
I'm having flashbacks to the Western Michigan NIT game, Travis is hurt .. Kolek is on the bench, and we end up scoring 40 points.
Everything going wrong.
Big Ten is just a tougher conference than the Big East, which doesn't help.
They look so bad it's kind of strange
Gonna be one of those days.
Big probs. Kam has to get going and we really need our Frosh to step-up. Horrific start.
Cocky f*ck
One basket in 8 min pathetic
Huge shot!
Kolek becoming a head case. Poor attitude again.
Just stay with it guys and relax. Oso does need to wake up though.
Everyone change up where they are sitting so we can change the mojo
Gotta bring Kolek back in for this possession. Even as frustrating as he's been, need to score ATO here.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 19, 2023, 04:43:12 PM
Kolek becoming a head case. Poor attitude again.
Idiotic decisions. My god he can barely be on the court. Never seen a guard get in foul trouble this quickly. It's like the last 4 games. Wtf ? Sad gonna have the play the whole game without him. Put him back in and Shaka better tell his ass not to swipe at anything. Frustrating
Have to attack the basket way, way, more.
couldn't have started worse...yet mich st only up 10
Their defense is making it tough to drive. We are going to have to hit some shots.
On the flip side, they are getting into the lane too easily. I'm confident we will turn it around.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 19, 2023, 04:43:12 PM
Kolek becoming a head case. Poor attitude again.
He is not himself last two games. No idea if hand is issue or what.
Let's settle down and hit some shots
Quote from: MUeng on March 19, 2023, 04:39:12 PM
Well this is not good...msu guards best we've seen all year and we can't make anything
That's just not even close to true.
Flagler, Cryer, George on Baylor are hands down the best in the country.
Marquette just came out shy to start and Kolek buried himself on the bench. Nightmare start.
I got criticized for the things I said? The way some of you are turning on a player who was the engine of this team all year is embarrassing.
Kam is going to have to light ''em up. Everyone else looks scared
Kudos to MSU's defense. Has our guys pressing a bit. They are cutting off our lanes and causing the fluidity of the offense to get bogged down.
MU is starting to play some D too, but MSU is getting better looks.
We are going to be fine.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 19, 2023, 04:45:06 PM
Their defense is making it tough to drive. We are going to have to hit some shots.
On the flip side, they are getting into the lane too easily. I'm confident we will turn it around.
Theyre just packing the paint and forcing us to hit 3s. And we can't so far.
It's early people, MU will find their groove
MU is very lucky. MSU has missed the last 4 three pointers and they were wide open. Bad defense
MU not going to win jacking threes, but may be their only recourse .
Shaka the Maestro needs to get the team back together here, the offense is stagnant and he may have to put Kolek back in before too late.
Quote from: Judge Smails on March 19, 2023, 04:44:18 PM
Everyone change up where they are sitting so we can change the mojo
This is excellent idea.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 19, 2023, 04:44:59 PM
couldn't have started worse...yet mich st only up 10
Michigan State is shooting a low pct from 3, not a good sign we're still 10 down with that.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 19, 2023, 04:43:12 PM
Kolek becoming a head case. Poor attitude again.
Kolek is hurt. There is no doubt about it. The thumb is worse than they are letting on. He is frustrated and doing things he wouldn't normally due as a result. Gonna be tough to win without our motor.
Just have to figure the zone out
We'll be fine after we settle down
This is new territory for them
Just keep playing hard one possession at a time. Slowly chip away at their lead.
MU might be the worst #6 team in the country in the history of college basketball.
And the worst #2 seed
our bench guys have been beyond awful
Sean probably shouldn't shoot again for a while.
Can't keep giving up multiple shots.
With Kolek out MU can't play the triangle with Oso. Not good. It will come later, still Kam needs to keep them in this game. And they need to play better defense and get more possessions and more shots. Were in good shape. Do not fret my friends. The Spartans shot so well and they're playing some bully ball. We've seen this movie before. Close game at the half and then the determination and the return of Kolek will reign in the the second half and all of us will dance around like we're crazy fools. If I was Smart I would say "Don't let them in the lane. Foul them. We want them to shoot threes."
The scary thing is Mich St. Is 1-7 from 3. We're getting completely outworked abd outplayed right now. Have to get Kam going.
Time to ban nlw
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 19, 2023, 04:47:22 PM
MU might be the worst #6 team in the country in the history of college basketball.
And the worst #2 seed
Arizona already lost. How stupid can u be?
what thebfuck are these fouls
Ben time.
Quote from: hairy worthen on March 19, 2023, 04:48:36 PM
Time to ban nlw
Yup, he's loves the sound of his own voice too much. Even if you ignore him he'll still keep talking.
Not a fan of the officiating. Neither of the fouls on Oso were fouls. Not sure either of the Kolek fouls were fouls either (but he did reach and they will usually call that ball or not).
ftp://We gotta punch these bullies in the mouth.
We can't play 3 guys who can't shoot.
Quote from: forgetful on March 19, 2023, 04:49:49 PM
Not a fan of the officiating. Neither of the fouls on Oso were fouls. Not sure either of the Kolek fouls were fouls either (but he did reach and they will usually call that ball or not).
Both of Koleks fouls were fouls. He needs to stop regressing like he's playing at George Mason
MSU not playing out of this world. They really should be up by more with how poorly MU is playing
Somehow Kam's composure has to rub off on the rest of the team.
Now that's just unlucky
We're completely out of sorts. I bring TyKo back right now.
This is how every game we've ever played against Michigan State has gone.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 19, 2023, 04:51:44 PM
MSU not playing out of this world. They really should be up by more with how poorly MU is playing
Exactly.
I dont care that Kolek is in foul trouble, you cannot have Sean Jones out there. Michigan State doesnt even have to guard him. Kam and Stevie can run the point.
Shaka and MU looking like they have no idea what just hit them. Keep it to 10 or less at half and we got a chance. MSU looks like want it more though
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 19, 2023, 04:51:40 PM
Both of Koleks fouls were fouls. He needs to stop regressing like he's playing at George Mason
Piss poor attitude about them too. He's being a total brat these last two games. Incomprehensible
Kolek needs to get back in - if we're not in touching distance at half who cares if he only had 2 fouls
We have done nothing well and made some big mistakes and turnovers. Still i it. Need to get a stop here and start scoring. Kam let's gooooooo!
Need another shot of that MSU Cheerleader before the commercial.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2023, 04:51:54 PM
We're completely out of sorts. I bring TyKo back right now.
We will be ok. Keep it around 10 or under at half and its good
I don't understand how we can look so legit against UCONN and X in the BE Tourney and play so scared here. I know it's a bigger stage, but still.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 19, 2023, 04:51:40 PM
Both of Koleks fouls were fouls. He needs to stop regressing like he's playing at George Mason
You are right. The refs will be the main reason again, followed by Kolek's sprain thumb. Just wait....
MU lucky down 10, could be 20 easily.
Why has Marquette had so many NCAA tourney games in the last 10+ years where they look nothing like themselves?
Quote from: MUeng on March 19, 2023, 04:52:39 PM
Shaka and MU looking like they have no idea what just hit them. Keep it to 10 or less at half and we got a chance. MSU looks like want it more though
MSU is playing great defense. It's got us rattled. And Kolek just isn't the same. Like someone said, the thumb is likely way worse than we were lead to believe.
Need to breathe a little. If we keep pressing, we play right into their hands.
The fouls are really a problem right now. I'd feel okay if we're within striking distance and Oso and TyKo don't get their 3rd.
We're keeping it close while things aren't going
we'll We're ok
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 19, 2023, 04:47:22 PM
MU might be the worst #6 team in the country in the history of college basketball.
And the worst #2 seed
Not only is your screen name the dumbest I've ever seen because it's meant to provoke, you now have the dumbest in game thread comment I've ever seen.
Congratulations head case.
Hauser is going to be a problem all day. He's got good offense
Kolek can't dribble with his right hand right now.
Fumbled it a bit and got stripped.
I love Stevie lol. Guy rocks.
Gotta finish.. FOCUS.
I love you Stevie, but make an f'ing layup
Let's go now!!!
HELLO!!! BEN!!!!!
Last couple minutes its like we suddenly decided we are tougher than them. Lets keep up that attitude.
Nice Ben...yes Omax!1
There is the punch! Let's go!!!!
Focus and ATTACK!!!
Ben Gold showing something since he's been in.
FIRE UP!!!
OMG. Please be okay.
Knee knocked?
Fucking circus shot goes in
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2023, 05:02:40 PM
OMG. Please be okay.
Never good when you see a guy go down on a non-contact lower leg injury. Hoping for the best.
Lol sometimes it's just not ur day... kolek injured kam injured? Forget it
just when things were going well.............
Tough shot by Walker, but we got this
Ugh, no injuries all season and now Tyler AND Kam
Doesnt sound like a msu home game on tv.
Win anyway.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2023, 05:03:17 PM
unnatural carnal knowledgeing circus shot goes in
That was a bit unlucky. Gotta stay within range. Critical, Critical, 4 mins.
Where has Jop been??? We need his buckets.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 19, 2023, 05:03:40 PM
Lol sometimes it's just not ur day... kolek injured kam injured? Forget it
This is far from over and Marquette is a second half team. MU is right there!
Ben Gold is the only freshman not playing like a freshman
We have the bench to get this
Even with injuries/fouls
Quote from: Judge Smails on March 19, 2023, 05:03:56 PM
Ugh, no injuries all season and now Tyler AND Kam
We will be okay. BTW - nice hat judge!
Quote from: Johnny B on March 19, 2023, 05:03:40 PM
Lol sometimes it's just not ur day... kolek injured kam injured? Forget it
He's fine. Relax. They got this.
Some body kick Hauser Hoes ass.
Got a break there.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 19, 2023, 04:26:38 PM
A real coach vs Shaka.
What time does preschool start tomorrow?
BEN!!!
Let's go now!!!
Playing a tough team in the tournament. That's the story and the reward. Persevere. We need Joplin to come in and shoot threes. Where has he been? Kam is back so I'm not going to worry about that. We are in great shape my friends.
LET'S FREAKING GOOOOO!!!!!
Lfg down 3 only
MSU will regret not putting us away early
here we go!!!!
Can we get a wellness check on NoLongerWarriors?
Quote from: oilcan on March 19, 2023, 05:11:22 PM
Playing a tough team in the tournament. That's the story and the reward. Persevere. We need Joplin to come in and shoot threes. Where has he been? Kam is back so I'm not going to worry about that. We are in great shape my friends.
No Joplin has to MAKE 3s
Stay with the flow of our offense and dont make dumb fouls and we should be ok.
MU's whole attitude changed when Prosper scored that dunk. That was a punch in the mouth.
Quote from: WarriorDoc on March 19, 2023, 05:12:13 PM
Can we get a wellness check on NoLongerWarriors?
He's enjoying a vacation.
We all sign up for that halftime score given the way this started.
2nd half team.
Just dunk the damn ball OMax
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. We got punched first. Now we punched back.
Would have loved for Prosper's shot to have fallen. But with Oso and Kolek with 2 fouls early. Nothing falling through the net, and an injury scare for Kam.
I'll gladly take down 5. We got this.
Well crap half only down 5 I'll take it.
Ben Gold seriously saved our half there. Big time Ben!
I can live with 5.
Second half team
F#$k Izzo and 'Em
2nd half is the good half
Got 'em right where we want 'em.
What grit, heart and determination displayed by the team. Love this team
too bad prosper couldn't finish that. we need the Big East POY to play like it in the 2nd
Finding our way..... need to keep it up. Let's see what Shaka does for adjustments. We get ball to start. Need to score on that possession. Goo Marquette!
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2023, 05:14:49 PM
I can live with 5.
Was hoping we could be within 10. 5 seems great.
MSU's defense slowed down, and we started to get room.
Kolek looked a little more engaged the last few minutes. Some big shots by Gold and Omax. Great fight to get us in position for the second half.
Regardless of the score at half, we needed to play well in the second half anyway to win.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 19, 2023, 05:13:46 PM
He's enjoying a vacation.
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Quote from: MUEng92 on March 19, 2023, 05:12:05 PM
MSU will regret not putting us away early
We will regret our dreadful start. Their 3 point shooting will only improve and I don't think we'll get as good a whistle in the 2nd half, have to play lights out to pull this out.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2023, 05:15:27 PM
What grit, heart and determination displayed by the team. Love this team
Ready to play our best half of the year
MU has gotten a lot of breaks on the whistles (or lack thereof), hope that continues.
Ben Gold coming in really got MU going, big props to him.
Team ball. TKo looks like he is about 50% at best out there.
Quote from: statnik on March 19, 2023, 05:16:07 PM
We will regret our dreadful start. Their 3 point shooting will only improve and I don't think we'll get as good a whistle in the 2nd half, have to play lights out to pull this out.
Fair points but it wasn't going to be easy anyway.
Got to half with no more fouls on F#@kem. We have to attack and attack in 2nd half. Must leave it all on the floor.
Got nothing out of Kolek, Joplin, and Oso in first half. These guys must step up.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 19, 2023, 05:16:38 PM
Team ball. TKo looks like he is about 50% at best out there.
Wondering if he is sick with the flu or something. He looks like he might be. Hope not.
Missed bunch of layups and free throws. To be in this position is a miracle with no Oso, no Kolek, no Joplin.
Ben Gold had two big plays, the pass for a bucket (Omax missed the and one) and that three pointer. Just huge.
Don't look for much playing time for S. Jones in second half.
MSU lost Hoggard and we lost Kolek and Oso. Evened out for awhile.
Make some of these layups, box out on rebounds and lets go....
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 19, 2023, 05:13:46 PM
He's enjoying a vacation.
Thank you. That was just complete spam.
Yes, OMax needs to throw that down with authority.
I'm most stunned that MU played better with Gold than Oso on the floor
Half-time adjustments, Shaka.
Let's go!!
Keep the defensive pressure up and force then to take bad shots
We've been a 2nd half team all year. This is our time.
Quote from: forgetful on March 19, 2023, 05:14:29 PM
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. We got punched first. Now we punched back.
Would have loved for Prosper's shot to have fallen. But with Oso and Kolek with 2 fouls early. Nothing falling through the net, and an injury scare for Kam.
I'll gladly take down 5. We got this.
Great take!
We finally punched back with Prospers dunk.
Marquette's play changed since that moment.
After that scary start in the first half we are all hitting the kitchen for another cold beverage and thinking how discouraged we were half and hour ago. Yet, here we are. Get Oso back and the momentum will change and the points will come easier. And you have to play violent defense.
Great analysis by Smith at half. MSU is not defending the corners. Kam needs to kick it out on his drives. No hero ball.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 19, 2023, 05:21:14 PM
Great analysis by Smith at half. MSU is not defending the corners. Kam needs to kick it out on his drives. No hero ball.
That's not hero ball. He's excellent on plays like that.
Quote from: Goose on March 19, 2023, 05:19:31 PM
Keep the defensive pressure up and force then to take bad shots
Got to defensive rebound. Cant give them 2 or 3 shots per possession. I am confident we will get the W.
Look, we need to ATTACK. PERIOD. Sissoko has 2, Hogard has 2. Oso had one shot in the first half,TyKo had one shot. Attack, use the shot fake, and be fking relentless.
We're going to win this game. I'm not getting drunk on a Sunday for no reason.
MU traveled well today. Still MSU majority in the arena, but less than I thought.
Quote from: hairy worthen on March 19, 2023, 05:22:21 PM
Got to defensive rebound. Cant give them 2 or 3 shots per possession. I am confident we will get the W.
Yes. Gotten killed on the glass. Focus and grab the damn ball.
They are hitting a lot of long twos. Need to get the boards.
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 19, 2023, 05:06:30 PM
We will be okay. BTW - nice hat judge!
thanks, I got a free bowl of soup with it
Fortunately it is a 40 game, not 10. They had to chance to be up big and MU battled hard. Need to make some transition or easier quick shots and change the flow of the game.
MSU is 1-10 from distance and that's one of their strengths. What we need is a vintage TyKo half. He simply must wake up and be the player he has been all season.
Muggsy
Need to get a run going and let things get looser on offensive. MSU will make things difficult in a half court slugfest, time to change the tempo of the game.
Quote from: Daniel on March 19, 2023, 05:18:35 PM
Wondering if he is sick with the flu or something. He looks like he might be. Hope not.
I think his thumb is more f'ed up than MU wants to let on.
I know this is tangential but has Izzo been asked about his former player Keith Appling?
Half Time Box Score
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401522175
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2023, 05:27:19 PM
MSU is 1-10 from distance and that's one of their strengths. What we need is a vintage TyKo half. He simply must wake up and be the player he has been all season.
Agree. I think that injury messed with his head. He needs a big half. It looked like he was starting to get it back there at the end a bit. Need to win round 1 of the second half.
Kolek had his worst half of the year.
If he's himself in this half ... they may pull it out.
Jop looks lost. An AIRBALL !?
Quote from: Mu8891 on March 19, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
Kolek had his worst half of the year.
If he's himself in this half ... they may pull it out.
Jop looks lost. An AIRBALL !?
We need Jop. He's not lost.
4 total assists in the 1st half for Marquette.
2nd half team!
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 19, 2023, 05:29:37 PM
I think his thumb is more f'ed up than MU wants to let on.
This
John Fanta: MU is 8-4 when trailing at half
Quote from: Mu8891 on March 19, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
Kolek had his worst half of the year.
If he's himself in this half ... they may pull it out.
Jop looks lost. An AIRBALL !?
It's 5 points. Not a sure thing but I EXPECT them to win.
Jop had some nerves. It happens.
Kolek's thumb and fouls. The keys to the second half.
Quote from: Goose on March 19, 2023, 05:29:16 PM
Muggsy
Need to get a run going and let things get looser on offensive. MSU will make things difficult in a half court slugfest, time to change the tempo of the game.
We didn't have any offensive flow in the 1H. It's going to take 2 of our top 3 players playing at the level we have seen all year.
I'm excited to see Ellis next year, think its cool he's suiting up!
I'm glad the MUScoop subscription price isn't based on refreshes
The MU fans at the game have been great. Fk Izzo and Michigan Sr. Let's get our act together. NOW.
How about a 20 point half for omax!!!
O-MAX!!! Let's GOOOOO!!!
Omax is EVERYWHERE
Joey can't guard OMax
TyKo!
No help D there. FOCUS.
Cmon Kam!! Go after a damn rebound
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2023, 05:38:07 PM
Joey can't guard OMax
I'd like to see him attack Joey off the bounce more.
Pace is better but 3rd on Oso.
Quote from: forgetful on March 19, 2023, 05:40:59 PM
I'd like to see him attack Joey off the bounce more.
Joey is playing off of Omax because he knows he can't defend him off the bounce. That's why the 3's are there.
Jop, shoot it or pass. Know your role
Wow we sure are slipping (being fouled on the drive) a lot
I wanted a drive instead of a 3, but not by Jop
Good 4 minutes
Why is oso swiping at that? Just unreal
OMax playing well but settled for 2 threes that he missed. Get to the rack.
Missing those threes was huge. Place would have come down Izzo would have called a timeout
Kolek turnover lead to Oso 3rd foul. Ugh.....
Can't keep up with the threes, missing again. And Joplin falls down. Here we go again. Stop the stupid turnovers and get that lead up.
Have gotten wide open looks in tbe 2H, just need to knock em down. Unfortunate slip by Jop but move the basketball.
Joplin is out of it today.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 19, 2023, 05:43:05 PM
Wow we sure are slipping (being fouled on the drive) a lot
I'd like to think it's a foul, but I think we are just out of control.
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2023, 05:41:59 PM
Joey is playing off of Omax because he knows he can't defend him off the bounce. That's why the 3's are there.
Yes, but if Omax attacks his shoulder hard off the bounce, Joey will foul, even with a bit of space he can't keep up. Gets fouls on MSU so we can get to the line, and can get Joey in foul trouble.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2023, 05:43:37 PM
OMax playing well but settled for 2 threes that he missed. Get to the rack.
Need more drives to the rim - no settling.
It's amazing we're up tbh
If Joplin is just going to flop around on the floor and not contribute anything, get him out of there. He has done nothing today.
Keep running and penetrating.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 19, 2023, 05:43:26 PM
Why is oso swiping at that? Just unreal
Didn't understand that. Has to be smarter. And he was finally figuring things out offensively.
I'd like to see Gold over Jop.
Quote from: Fred Garvin on March 19, 2023, 05:43:20 PM
Good 4 minutes
It's a perfect second half quarter of BB if Prosper hits the corner three to go up six. That one would have forced an Izzo time out!
3 on Hoggard!
Lappas actively roots against Marquette I think.
Wow
I don't like seeing OMax shoot this many threes. Get an easier shot, a higher percentage shot in the paint to get fouled. Poor decisions so far in the second half. OSO out again. Too quickly. Defense will determine the rest of this game. And Kolek.
WTF TyKo???
Wow. So many chances to take like a 6-8 pt lead.
Lots of wasted trips
OMax should do that every possession
Ughhh.
Getting stops big time, six in row but just horrid offense and two Kolek turnovers
Four straight threes missed and three turnovers. Come on, let's go here.
3 on their center
MU going to regret these six straight pretty bad consecutive possessions.
Kolek for goodness sake get your head out of your ass!!!
hate to say it but kolek is playing like an out of control idiot right now
That was off houser again
Even Hauser knew that was off of him. Lets see if the refs fix it after discussing during the break.
Kolek, relax and play
Kolek is killing us out there.
Quote from: Fred Garvin on March 19, 2023, 05:52:13 PM
Kolek for goodness sake get your head out of your ass!!!
Horrible turnovers
It's ok to bring up past half court with a dribble. 3rd time today MU's thrown a wreckless unnecessary pass into the front court.
The officials have gotten 3 or 4 out of bounds plays just flat wrong. Including the one off Hauser they eventually got right
WTF??? TyKo needs to really wake the H up. Insane turns. We've really let an opportunity slip with terrible offensive possessions. FOCUS!!!!
Hopefully not extending the lead these last few minutes doesn't bite us.
Quote from: forgetful on March 19, 2023, 05:52:37 PM
Even Hauser knew that was off of him. Lets see if the refs fix it after discussing during the break.
I doubt they will, but couldn't be more obvious
Quote from: Fred Garvin on March 19, 2023, 05:52:13 PM
Kolek for goodness sake get your head out of your ass!!!
I am confounded by this sudden lapse in BB judgement by Kolek. It's perplexing!
That was so clearly off Hauser! How is that MSU ball?
Kolek is pressing offensively. It is just so unusual.
But he's playing hard on defense.
Our bad possessions lately have been because Tyler is not taking care of the ball,better decisions buddy!! Cmon lets go!!!
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 19, 2023, 05:53:30 PM
Hopefully not extending the lead these last few minutes doesn't bite us.
Cheebs,
We absolutely should be up 8 minimum.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 19, 2023, 05:53:30 PM
Hopefully not extending the lead these last few minutes doesn't bite us.
We had a lot of great opportunities. But still, we win the next 11:30 and we are advancing.
Kolek needs to wake up. That's three turnovers in five minutes. Not his thumb, but his brain is sprained now. . Can't up lead at all and defense has done its job. Great job
Add in Joplin turnover and that's four huge ones.
Hoggard is slugging mitchell with his off hand/arm 2-3 times on every drive. That offensive foul was a "cumulative" call for about 10 actual fouls.
This is the type of game that trend blackledge would have helped a lot.
Rough game for TK
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2023, 04:19:25 PM
Here's hoping both teams have fun and play hard. It's an incredible opportunity for these student athletes to participate in an amateur setting such as this. Play with joy and and do your best
This has got to be some kind of joke, right?
Go Marquette. ONLY.
Dumb foul and dumb TO by Ross
Marquette catch your passes challenge
This is really poor play by Kolek.
Extreme nerves from Ross.
Jesus Fk!!!!
Chase must sit
Kolek is terrible right now
Chase finally looks like a freshmen. But so does jop so...
Get Ross out of there and Joplin
We've played better with Kolek on the bench
settle down.
What a disaster game!!!
Izzo in these refs pockets and Marquette getting flustered by it.
Man, the sloppiness in the last 2 minutes has been painful to watch.
what the unnatural carnal knowledge this offense is the ross and joplin shitshow right now
What in the actual fkkkkk
This is out of control.
Unreal. Slow the F down in the h-c.
Kolek looks like a walk on out there. 5 straight turnovers? Omg this is bad basketball
Gotta play starters the final 8 minutes.
Let's see if we can set some NCAA Tournament record for consecutive turnovers
This is as sloppy as we have played all year
Kolek is just lost. Good sub by Shaka but they need him to get right for the U8.
Moment is too big I think. Lack of composure is disappointing
Shaka,please take Tyler out!!!!!
Hey, here's an idea, let's turn it over every time we get a defensive stop.
That's nine Joplin and Ross. Six out of last seven possessions. This is nuts..crazy
6 out of last 7.......
Gonna be like 8 turnovers in a row
Tyler needs to sit the rest of the game. Out of control
not the marquette team we have watched this year
Goodness - ridiculous amount of unforced turnovers.
Could be flagrant
Another Flagrant incoming.
I swear to God if you go to the monitor and see anything other than a moving screen...
wow Prosper flagrant?
They haven't played this bad in a awhile
Time for somebody to step up
Quote from: nyg on March 19, 2023, 06:00:14 PM
Hey, here's an idea, let's turn it over every time we get a defensive stop.
That's nine Joplin and Ross. Six out of last seven possessions. This is nuts..crazy
6 out of last 7.......
Clean up the slop and we pull ahead!
Sit Kolek?
Kam needs to take over the damn game
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 19, 2023, 06:00:02 PM
Moment is too big I think. Lack of composure is disappointing
Yup on both counts.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 19, 2023, 06:01:01 PM
Could be flagrant
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised. I think there was a foul on the moving screen (against them), but then a reasonable flagrant for the hold on Prosper.
My guess is only the 2nd gets called as that was where the game whistle was.
Need to rally.
Better not be flagrant.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 19, 2023, 05:59:35 PM
Let's see if we can set some NCAA Tournament record for consecutive turnovers
Come on Dribbles, let's be more positive. Resonance among us will only help our team!!!
Last 9 minutes, MU has 3 points and 9 turnovers.
Great. Every opportunity to take control of this game and it's been beyond a dumpster fire. 8 turns? Totally uncharacteristic of this team all season. Gotta forget about it and find a way now.
What are they reviewing
Kolek was just benched for poor play..,
And he deserved it. Poor time to play worst game of his MU career
if you sit kolek who is going to play? have to play him. if he keeps it up we lose, if hes plays even an above average last bit of the game we win
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 19, 2023, 06:02:07 PM
Sit Kolek?
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I think you have point,he has more turnovers then points?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on March 19, 2023, 06:01:45 PM
Time for somebody to step up
gotta be Kam or Gold. Everyone else looks asleep or is intimidated by the opposing jersey
Going to get a flagrant on OMax for honking Hauser around neck looks like m
Damn
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 19, 2023, 06:02:47 PM
Last 9 minutes, MU has 3 points and 9 turnovers.
That's beyond human comprehension.
My GOD ...
The STOOPID TURNS
We are 2-10 against MSU.
Was that screen legal???
Get Sean Jones out of there
Nice douche move by Prosper and now the refs are going to hammer us.
Really pissed right now. Need to punch back.
Shaka with that Wojo look on the sidelines right now. He knows we don't have it today.
Hauiser is a punk
It's like MU forgets they have Kam sometimes
Come on guy!!! Survive and advance. I don't care how we play. Just win the game.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 19, 2023, 06:02:47 PM
Last 9 minutes, MU has 3 points and 9 turnovers.
That along with those three wide open three point misses with lead, really, really hurt. Might be the demise.
Need a Kam Jones nuclear ballistic run.
Kolek has to play wtf
Not sure why we haven't seen Gold again.
Tripping isn't a flagrant
These rotations from Shaka have been baffling today
We need to get this to overtime!
Time for TyKo to be TyKo.
Kolek noshowed.
Kolek is losing this game for MU
Ball needs to be in Kams hands every play
Tyler is a f@ckkng dumpster fire.
Player Tyler as the off guard
Perhaps Tyler can compete for the D2 championship
Turning it over 7 of 9 trips equals embarrassing loss.. it's just sad
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 19, 2023, 06:09:00 PM
Kolek is losing this game for MU
It's crazy. And it's not like MSU forces turns.
Get Tyler out. I think this injury is worse than we think. He is not right.
Sit Kolek please
Quote from: Johnny B on March 19, 2023, 06:09:39 PM
Turning it over 7 of 9 trips equals embarrassing loss.. it's just sad
10 in first 14 minutes
Hate to say it but take Tko out
Every single person just standing around...
Too much standing around on offense right now.
Back within 3. Settle down, D up and get that lead back.
Wouldn't be surprised if Kolek's injury ends up being a torn ligament. Happens when you get a finger caught in a Jersey.
2 easy foul calls on Mich St. Let's go now!!!
Dumb foul on Stevie
What an acting job
He's as good a slipper as anyone in the country! Lol!!!
Just go up strong Oso.
WHO WANTS IT MORE?!
If Kam doesn't get a legitimate chance to shoot on every possession the rest of the game it will be criminal
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 19, 2023, 06:06:20 PM
Shaka with that Wojo look on the sidelines right now. He knows we don't have it today.
Then this is why we pay him the big bucks!
Stop fouling, no turnovers, keep the defense going and make free throws. Let's go.
That was great sequence. Big shot by Joey, then Kam. That's b-ball...
From a potential blowout to a ball game.
This is either going to be fantastic, or a gigantic gut punch.
It's survive and advance. That's all that matters guys. Crunch time and great experience for this team.
We got this. No one makes the final four without a tough game. This is ours.
Thank god I'm high
MU needs to be MU for just 3 min
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 19, 2023, 06:06:20 PM
Shaka with that Wojo look on the sidelines right now. He knows we don't have it today.
None of that matters. It's the tournament. Just find a way to win.
That was a goal tend.
Oh well.
They've been giving Izzo a hand job while he complains about the officiating all day, so that's not surprising
Blouses
goal tend? very disappointing we have all the momentum
Fucking goaltending
I rewound. Looked like he pinned it. Don't think it was a goaltend
They were terrible from 3 today,should have went to zone,beat us off the dribble to the hoop 3 times in a row
That's gotta be called.
They can burn 20 sec. So we have to stop or we're dead
Just an awful way to end the season.
Whatever happens, we gotta get much much better at rebounding next season.
Didn't deserve to win.
Sucks to play so damn bad in a tournament game. Msu didn't play even well. Go home
Quote from: SERocks on March 19, 2023, 06:18:07 PM
We got this. No one makes the final four without a tough game. This is ours.
Wrongggggg
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 19, 2023, 06:22:56 PM
I rewound. Looked like he pinned it. Don't think it was a goaltend
Should have still called it so they could review.
A pin is a goaltend now, no?
We had our chances.
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on March 19, 2023, 06:23:08 PM
They can burn 20 sec. So we have to stop or we're dead
Get a stop here. Don't foul yet. Go down get a quick bucket, 3 if its available, then it is anyones game.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2023, 06:23:40 PM
Should have still called it so they could review.
A pin is a goaltend now, no?
Is it?
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 19, 2023, 06:22:22 PM
Oh well.
When your best player has this bad a game against a decent team it's almost impossible to overcome.
Kolek was terrible today
MU can't stop Hoggard or Walker off the dribble, they've killed MU down the stretch.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 19, 2023, 06:23:23 PM
Sucks to play so damn bad in a tournament game. Msu didn't play even well. Go home
Yeah that's why I wouldn't mind if Shaka goes ballistic on the team, to do this in a high stakes game when they've been coming up big all year is inexcusable.
As Ron Wolf once said, fart in the wind.
ball was coming down though. should be a goaltend.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 19, 2023, 06:24:27 PM
When your best player has this bad a game against a decent team it's almost impossible to overcome.
Accept apparently against Vermont.
I can't remember ever being so frustrated. This team has fought therir ass off but when the game was right there for the taking we weren't the team we have been all season. It's the self-inflicted mistakes that are too much to take.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2023, 06:23:40 PM
Should have still called it so they could review.
A pin is a goaltend now, no?
One call doesn't make whole game.
The turnovers starting at ten minute mark led to MU probable loss.
Kolek thumb, refs, not.....
Kolek was consistent all day
Way to many turnovers to win. Had a chance to pull away
This sucks
Didn't deserve to win
If it stays this way, disappointing end to a magical year.
Fingers crossed. Still time, but it's starting to look bleak.
As we recognize Kolek's poor game, let's not lose sight of what a great year he had. It's a shame it ended like this, but let's not bash him.
I really do think that hand injury was worse than we were lead to believe.
When Tyler is having a bad offensive game he needs to learn how to win using other means.
Walker hit a lot of tough shots today, Kolek was as bad as could be. Ball game
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 19, 2023, 06:24:27 PM
When your best player has this bad a game against a decent team it's almost impossible to overcome.
Ya....and the overall turns were so uncharacteristic.
A great season nonetheless - way better than I expected. Thanks MU players and coaches for a great season!!!
The game could have been ours ispf if just played our normal game. Ugh
What a weird game.
In the end, it's a guards game. Hoggard+Walker>Kolek+Mitchell today.
I'd take our guys 9 games out of 10...but this so far has been the 1 outlier.
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2023, 06:27:31 PM
If it stays this way, disappointing end to a magical year.
Fingers crossed. Still time, but it's starting to look bleak.
As we recognize Kolek's poor game, let's not olose sight of what a great year he had. It's a shame it ended like this, but let's not bash him.
I really do think that hand injury was worse than we were lead to believe.
True, but he made a lot of really dumb passes that he hadn't been doing.
I am shocked at how we played today. maybe not that we lost, but how bad we played
I hope we get the real story on Kolek's injury. I can't believe he plays this poorly out of no where unless the injury is worse than we think.
Kolek won MU a lot of games this year, but wow was he terrible today. No matter the reason
Great year. I just can't be disappointed.
Unfortunate to end here. If Kolek plays like he has most of the year we likely win.
I've always said Izzo is a great coach. MU got out-coached today.
Shaka will learn from this and get better.
8 final fours gives some advantages in this situation.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2023, 06:26:25 PM
I can't remember ever being so frustrated. This team has fought therir ass off but when the game was right there for the taking we weren't the team we have been all season. It's the self-inflicted mistakes that are too much to take.
I'm the most upset I've been in years. Kind of sad honestly. Msu isn't even good. Just a truly terrible performance. Grade school turnovers. Like wtf. To scared? Too big for the moment? Such a depressingly awful performance. Embarrassing. Oh well if everyone's back I'll feel better
Quote from: Hoops92 on March 19, 2023, 06:28:41 PM
I hope we get the real story on Kolek's injury. I can't believe he plays this poorly out of no where unless the injury is worse than we think.
Can't imagine it was the injury.
Those 7 straight UNFORCED turnovers was the game.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 19, 2023, 06:28:49 PM
Kolek won MU a lot of games this year, but wow was he terrible today. No matter the reason
Would not have been in this game without him. Team played terribly today.
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 19, 2023, 06:29:01 PM
I've always said Izzo is a great coach. MU got out-coached today.
Shaka will learn from this and get better.
8 final fours gives some advantages in this situation.
What magic potion did Izzo use?
I shouldn't be, but I'm pissed.
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 19, 2023, 06:29:01 PM
I've always said Izzo is a great coach. MU got out-coached today.
Shaka will learn from this and get better.
8 final fours gives some advantages in this situation.
I don't agree with that. The TOs cost us, and too many missed open looks.
I thought both coaches did a heck of a job punching and counter punching.
This will probably be the ugliest game in the entire tournament and with that it will be the last one I watch in the tournament.
I once witnessed the Bucks come back down by 8 with 32 seconds left in the early 1980's in Phoenix.
Very doubtful the 'Quette pulls this out, but possible.
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 19, 2023, 06:29:01 PM
I've always said Izzo is a great coach. MU got out-coached today.
Shaka will learn from this and get better.
8 final fours gives some advantages in this situation.
There was no "out-coaching". Marquette played uncharacteristically sloppy. Kolek was a shell of his normal play.
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 19, 2023, 06:29:01 PM
I've always said Izzo is a great coach. MU got out-coached today.
Shaka will learn from this and get better.
8 final fours gives some advantages in this situation.
I didn't really see anything that indicated Izzo did a great job coaching. MU simply played terribly. TK, oof.
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 19, 2023, 06:29:01 PM
I've always said Izzo is a great coach. MU got out-coached today.
Shaka will learn from this and get better.
8 final fours gives some advantages in this situation.
MSU's performance wasn't even in the top 5 of opponents that MU has played this year. That game was lost by MU's play not won by their coach
Can they run baseline after a time out?
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 19, 2023, 06:29:01 PM
I've always said Izzo is a great coach. MU got out-coached today.
Shaka will learn from this and get better.
8 final fours gives some advantages in this situation.
A bit, but Shaka didn't cause all the ridiculous turnovers.
Hope Tyler tears it up in his 10 years with the Maine Celtics
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 19, 2023, 06:29:01 PM
I've always said Izzo is a great coach. MU got out-coached today.
Shaka will learn from this and get better.
8 final fours gives some advantages in this situation.
Terrible person though. Larry Nassar apologist
Succes is measured by what you do in March. We just pulled an Aaron Rodgers.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 19, 2023, 06:31:02 PM
I didn't really see anything that indicated Izzo did a great job coaching. MU simply played terribly. TK, oof.
I can't stress how right you are here. 100% correct.
Curtains! Give props to Shoots and MSU and move on to next year. Great season guys! Future is bright.
just a sad performance...so many mistakes, dumb turnovers, Kolek playing awful....everybody misses shots but the careless turnovers were aplenty
The thing about it is Michigan St is an average team in the Big 10 and we just lost to them...puts a really sad ending on what was a fun season
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 19, 2023, 06:31:35 PM
Hope Tyler tears it up in his 10 years with the Maine Celtics
He's been the best MU PG in 30 years and you choose to be a douche? Classy
FINISH LINE ------------------------
It stings but this is amazing fuel for next year, this team was too young.
what the hell is izzo hugging the sideline reporter just now?????
yea great season but boy this was an absolute gut punch and massively disappointing. could have been so much more. too have so many terrible mistakes and uncharacteristic play.....especially by your best player. hard to just move on to next year after that......
Bitter unnecessary ending to a superlative season. Will really hurt for a while. Can't wait for next season. Tomorrow comes.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 19, 2023, 06:30:51 PM
There was no "out-coaching". Marquette played uncharacteristically sloppy. Kolek was a shell of his normal play.
Perhaps the injury had something to do with it.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 19, 2023, 06:31:35 PM
Hope Tyler tears it up in his 10 years with the Maine Celtics
You seem to be trying to overtake that No Longer dude for biggest A-hole here.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 19, 2023, 06:37:41 PM
Perhaps the injury had something to do with it.
Injured brain. Most of those turnovers were with his good hand.
Shame, guy played great all year up to last two
Injury ?
Maybe ... but , Come ON ... it's not broken and it's the thumb on his
Off hand. Does not explain play THAT BAD
The game didn't work out like I was hoping.
Looking forward to next season.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2023, 06:32:06 PM
Terrible person though. Larry Nassar apologist
Exactly. That short little b*tch Izzo is crying over basketball basketball basketball!!! What about all those Larry Nassar victims, you phony? That's what makes me ill. Izzo sided with the monster.
This is just a game. Enjoy it will or lose. I learned a long time ago to have fun and not take it too serious.. It's not life.
Now, it's time for "60 Minutes" of government propaganda.
Each player has room for improvement,
All have flaws in there game, if they all improve 3-5 percent next year they will be better.
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 19, 2023, 06:42:56 PM
Exactly. That short little b*tch Izzo is crying over basketball basketball basketball!!! What about all those Larry Nassar victims, you phony? That's what makes me ill. Izzo sided with the monster.
This is just a game. Enjoy it will or lose. I learned a long time ago to have fun and not take it serious.. It's not life.
Now, it's time for "60 Minutes" of government propaganda.
Tom Izzo is a bad person. He runs a dirtbag program with dirtbag players. Losing to that program sucks
I hope that the posters on this board who talk about the NCAA tournament all season like it's the only thing that matters will eventually realize what a great season MU had.
Jesus, I had to turn it off, but MSU has a right to celebrate. MU would've been going nuts if they pulled that one out, and they were the favorites.
I didn't have much of an issue with coaching today, though I would've liked to see a timeout when MSU started to pull away late. But bigger picture, this season was one of the best coaching performances in program history.
Outstanding, unexpected season. If off season improvements continue like last summer with Kolek and Oso in particular we will be awesome next season. Bet we lose no one to the transfer portal because we have such a huge upside but will also have targets on our backs. Enjoyed this team and enjoyed this year... Looking ahead to a great season next year ...
Quote from: nyg on March 19, 2023, 06:39:18 PM
Injured brain. Most of those turnovers were with his good hand.
Shame, guy played great all year up to last two
Injuring your off hand has more of an impact than you think. It can affect your "defense" of the ball while your dribbling with your strong hand, your confidence, and your equilibrium.
Tyler was not himself.
All the comments about Izzo being a bad person are pathetic. Who gives a flying fudge what kind of person he is. He obviously knows how to get his kids to play basketball. Own the loss, we played poorly and represented the Big East poorly.
TKO has clearly not played well the last two games. IF the injury is of any significance, it may have impacted his play even though it is his off hand that was injured. I imaging it's difficult to play/focus when you are in pain. I'm willing to cut some slack. A few of his teammates weren't there today either.
Quote from: wisblue on March 19, 2023, 06:45:56 PM
I hope that the posters on this board who talk about the NCAA tournament all season like it's the only thing that matters will eventually realize what a great season MU had.
Spot on. 100%. Take this guys advice. He knows what he's talking about.
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 19, 2023, 06:46:59 PM
Injuring your off hand has more of an impact than you think. It can affect your "defense" of the ball while your dribbling with your strong hand, your confidence, and your equilibrium.
Tyler was not himself.
It showed with his passing—all left hand dominant. It really affected his game.
Quote from: TwoWords on March 19, 2023, 06:46:04 PM
Jesus, I had to turn it off, but MSU has a right to celebrate. MU would've been going nuts if they pulled that one out, and they were the favorites.
I didn't have much of an issue with coaching today, though I would've liked to see a timeout when MSU started to pull away late. But bigger picture, this season was one of the best coaching performances in program history.
Please don't take the Lord's name in vain. It's one of the 10 Comandments.
Quote from: GLlanas on March 19, 2023, 06:47:56 PM
All the comments about Izzo being a bad person are pathetic. Who gives a flying fudge what kind of person he is. He obviously knows how to get his kids to play basketball. Own the loss, we played poorly and represented the Big East poorly.
If that situation happened at Marquette, I would stop supporting the program completely.
Izzo is a disgusting human, there is no two ways about it.
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 19, 2023, 06:46:59 PM
Injuring your off hand has more of an impact than you think. It can affect your "defense" of the ball while your dribbling with your strong hand, your confidence, and your equilibrium.
Tyler was not himself.
Exactly; completely agree. He may be in a lot of pain.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2023, 06:51:00 PM
If that situation happened at Marquette, I would stop supporting the program completely.
Izzo is a disgusting human, there is no two ways about it.
I don't get this. I really don't. A lot of people read an ESPN article (and boy are they known for journalistic integrity....) and now want to throw Izzo under the bus?
Why? Do you even know what he said?
This is silly and sounds like sour grapes and ignorance.
We lost. The ignorant cheap shots are unnecessary.
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2023, 06:53:28 PM
I don't get this. I really don't. A lot of people read an ESPN article (and boy are they known for journalistic integrity....) and now want to throw Izzo under the bus?
Why? Do you even know what he said?
This is silly and sounds like sour grapes and ignorance.
We lost. The ignorant cheap shots are unnecessary.
Tell that to the victims
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2023, 06:53:28 PM
I don't get this. I really don't. A lot of people read an ESPN article (and boy are they known for journalistic integrity....) and now want to throw Izzo under the bus?
Why? Do you even know what he said?
This is silly and sounds like sour grapes and ignorance.
We lost. The ignorant cheap shots are unnecessary.
He supported the institution that wrote his checks, rather than the girls that needed support from a power figure.
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2023, 06:53:28 PM
I don't get this. I really don't. A lot of people read an ESPN article (and boy are they known for journalistic integrity....) and now want to throw Izzo under the bus?
Why? Do you even know what he said?
This is silly and sounds like sour grapes and ignorance.
We lost. The ignorant cheap shots are unnecessary.
It ain't just the administration he supported. He's supported a lot of trash he brought to East Lansing
Picked a bad time to play terrible. Oh well, learn from it and get it next year.
Izzo would have supported the school shooter if it carried water for the administration.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2023, 06:55:52 PM
It ain't just the administration he supported. He's supported a lot of trash he brought to East Lansing
I honestly think you should all actually read the first comments he made with a fair and impartial eye.
He repeatedly commented on the courageousness of the victims. He showed empathy and respect for them, while he acknowledged the permanent damage done by Nassar.
He took exception to people generalizing and throwing out the baby with the bath water by imputing Nassar's disgusting behavior on everyone associated with MSU - which is what it seems I see to be happening here.
Was he perfect in what he said? No. But, living in Michigan, I read the comments and I thought people were looking then as you all are now for a reason to trash him. Again, throwing the baby out with the bath water.
But, we likely won't see eye to eye on this ever. I just never read his comments and thought he was anything but respectful and empathetic of the victims.
I'll sign off.
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2023, 07:07:04 PM
I honestly think you should all actually read the first comments he made with a fair and impartial eye.
He repeatedly commented on the courageousness of the victims. He showed empathy and respect for them, while he acknowledged the permanent damage done by Nassar.
He took exception to people generalizing and throwing out the baby with the bath water by imputing Nassar's disgusting behavior on everyone associated with MSU - which is what it seems I see to be happening here.
Was he perfect in what he said? No. But, living in Michigan, I read the comments and I thought people were looking then as you all are now for a reason to trash him. Again, throwing the baby out with the bath water.
But, we likely won't see eye to eye on this ever. I just never read his comments and thought he was anything but respectful and empathetic of the victims.
I'll sign off.
It ain't just this one case. The guy is a bad human being
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 19, 2023, 06:50:08 PM
Please don't take the Lord's name in vain. It's one of the 10 Comandments.
Rocket and Willie call me Jesus.
We should look at this season as a real step forward for our program. There are many reasons why we lost but I think the main one is simply inexperience playing on the big stage. We were not ourselves. This was not our normal game. We gained a lot of experience which will help us next year.
A great run for a very young team and it was done in 2 years by Shaka. Better years are in front of us. This team deserves a great welcome home at Billy Mitchell. They gave it their all but nerves did them in. Next year they will go further. MU is back on the map.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2023, 07:08:09 PM
It ain't just this one case. The guy is a bad human being
I'm surprised at your position, given your normal level-headed posts. Maybe you know things I don't know. Maybe you're personally aware of things he has done wrong to you or yours. I'm always open to being wrong.
I do know for a fact that there is so much good he has done for the community.
I was talking with someone recently about this as it relates to Boeheim and Pitino. We put these guys on pedestals. They sit up there in charge of 18-22 year old kids. They take on fatherly roles. Then they defend their kids. All the while, they are under incredible pressure to win. Are they perfect? No. Not any single one of them. Look at Beilein who was as closed to perfect as you would've wanted. Eventually controversy found him too.
Eventually you're in the spotlight long enough and it shines on you. And in America the only thing we like more than putting people on pedestals is tearing them down.
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2023, 07:14:15 PM
I'm surprised at your position, given your normal level-headed posts. Maybe you know things I don't know. Maybe you're personally aware of things he has done wrong to you or yours. I'm always open to being wrong.
I do know for a fact that there is so much good he has done for the community.
I was talking with someone recently about this as it relates to Boeheim and Pitino. We put these guys on pedestals. They sit up there in charge of 18-22 year old kids. They take on fatherly roles. Then they defend their kids. All the while, they are under incredible pressure to win. Are they perfect? No. Not any single one of them. Look at Beilein who was as closed to perfect as you would've wanted. Eventually controversy found him too.
Eventually you're in the spotlight long enough and it shines on you. And in America the only thing we like more than putting people on pedestals is tearing them down.
There's a massive difference between paying a couple of kids under the table and being a shill for an administration that knowingly swept these accusations under the rug for god knows how long.
He. Is. Not. A. Good. Human.
Anybody else think it was incredibly slimy by CBS to show Kolek's dad?
He doesn't want to be on TV or seen. They know that, and said that, and yet still sought him out to put him on TV.
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2023, 07:14:15 PM
I'm surprised at your position, given your normal level-headed posts. Maybe you know things I don't know. Maybe you're personally aware of things he has done wrong to you or yours. I'm always open to being wrong.
I do know for a fact that there is so much good he has done for the community.
I was talking with someone recently about this as it relates to Boeheim and Pitino. We put these guys on pedestals. They sit up there in charge of 18-22 year old kids. They take on fatherly roles. Then they defend their kids. All the while, they are under incredible pressure to win. Are they perfect? No. Not any single one of them. Look at Beilein who was as closed to perfect as you would've wanted. Eventually controversy found him too.
Eventually you're in the spotlight long enough and it shines on you. And in America the only thing we like more than putting people on pedestals is tearing them down.
Maybe take a look at some Title IX infractions under his watch and yeah, I know plenty about Michigan State's handling of their student athletes off the court and it's a disgrace
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2023, 07:17:33 PM
Anybody else think it was incredibly slimy by CBS to show Kolek's dad?
He doesn't want to be on TV or seen. They know that, and said that, and yet still sought him out to put him on TV.
Yea, I kinda cringed when they did that. Not a good look for CBS.
Poor guy looked like he was about to have a panic attack.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2023, 07:18:02 PM
Maybe take a look at some Title IX infractions under his watch and yeah, I know plenty about Michigan State's handling of their student athletes off the court and it's a disgrace
Usually I don't see this type of vitriol unless there is a U of Michigan connection.
But if you're like me, we have both probably said more than we need to on the topic.
More importantly, my heart and soul lie with Marquette. And I hope Shaka can be one of those few exceptions — like Jay Wright — for which these discussions never come up. I think we are in good hands here. He certainly seems genuinely a great character man.
Quote from: tower912 on March 19, 2023, 07:12:30 PM
Rocket and Willie call me Jesus.
I thought they called you Hose A and your brother Hose B.
You just got posterized. See your present below.
May God bless you.
Sincerely,
'Taller
They call me lots of things. Never those.
We came up a bit short but it was a terrific season. I think I'll have nice drink.
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