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KO and Deane-o would be more exciting
I see Crean brought his laptop. Is that a coloring book in front of Wojo?
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 06, 2023, 08:51:20 PM
I see Crean brought his laptop. Is that a coloring book in front of Wojo?
LOL
Yeah just saw them wow. Unreal!
Wojo with SBD guilty look.
Had a mild conniption seeing that photo.
Dead Bob Dukiet up next at halftime.
Settin the DVR
Well Done everyone. Made me laugh.
Crean is really good at this. Wojo has a tough time trying to sound excited, but it comes off as forced. Not sure if he wants a future in it, but he seems a little stiff currently.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 06, 2023, 11:51:40 PM
Crean is really good at this. Wojo has a tough time trying to sound excited, but it comes off as forced. Not sure if he wants a future in it, but he seems a little stiff currently.
Agree Crean sounds relaxed and knowledgeable. Wojo looked less comfortable and stiff is a good word. He sounded like that on pressers etc too. Never comfortable or able to really smile and laugh.
at least crean was kinda "been there" (final 4) but wojo, not so much(understatement) i didn't see this on tv, but when the topic of MU comes up, i can imagine wojo having a little tummy ache
Neither are remotely close to "good at this" and Wojo makes wooden and laconic people look enthusuastic and vivacious. There is 0.0000000 reason they should be collecting a paycheck from ESPN or any network "analyzing" any sport.
Nah, Crean is good at it.
Crean is a salesman. And he has made.peace with MU. Wojo is wooden and paint by numbers in his commentary.
Topic should be retitled "Frauds and Phonies," aina?
Crean sucks
Crean is obviously better than Wojo. Remember you are comparing him to a mannequin.
tower
I am glad you said Wojo was wooden, not Wooden.
Quote from: tower912 on March 07, 2023, 07:25:42 AM
Crean is a salesman. And he has made.peace with MU. Wojo is wooden and paint by numbers in his commentary.
As for Crean, ax Fr. Wild if piece has been made. This Warrior sez, "kiss my ass," hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 07, 2023, 07:57:57 AM
As for Crean, ax Fr. Wild if piece has been made. This Warrior sez, "kiss my ass," hey?
I'm sure he's devastated
I'm grateful that both tried their best at MU and hope life is treating them well.
Exactly. You need to move on from ex-girlfriends. Because they have moved on from you.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 07, 2023, 08:06:32 AM
I'm grateful that both tried their best at MU and hope life is treating them well.
Hear, hear! Agreed.
Did they discuss Marquette?
That is the only thing that is relevant.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 07, 2023, 08:06:32 AM
I'm grateful that both tried their best at MU and hope life is treating them well.
They are both collecting 7 figure unemployment checks but thank you for your concern.
We're recommending the following changes in staff + direction of the program and if you do not comply were sending you to Park City, UT with 8 million dollars.
(really hope life is treating him well)
I hope both their lives are miserable and they suffer tremendously each day they wake up. The pain they caused me by not winning more sports games ruined my life. My Warriors pennant, hanging in my living room mocked my very existence, knowing Billy Packer was right.
I hope the players they recruited fail spectacularly in basketball and life. Not a single one of them can match the players that came decades before them. Except the white guys from Wisconsin. Those guys I'll cheer for and get more satisfaction succeeding than from Marquette winning
Bravo.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 07, 2023, 08:59:48 AM
They are both collecting 7 figure unemployment checks but thank you for your concern.
In that case, a pox on both their houses.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 07, 2023, 08:59:48 AM
They are both collecting 7 figure unemployment checks but thank you for your concern.
I never expressed concern. Only gratitude for their efforts.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 07, 2023, 09:14:11 AM
I hope both their lives are miserable and they suffer tremendously each day they wake up. The pain they caused me by not winning more sports games ruined my life. My Warriors pennant, hanging in my living room mocked my very existence, knowing Billy Packer was right.
I hope the players they recruited fail spectacularly in basketball and life. Not a single one of them can match the players that came decades before them. Except the white guys from Wisconsin. Those guys I'll cheer for and get more satisfaction succeeding than from Marquette winning
You don't really mean that as you slurped Wojo early and often. But go on with your mean spiritness.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 07, 2023, 09:44:07 AM
You don't really mean that as you slurped Wojo early and often. But go on with your mean spiritness.
🤔
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 07, 2023, 08:59:48 AM
They are both collecting 7 figure unemployment checks but thank you for your concern.
Exactly Dr.B. "Grateful for trying their best"? What happens if your best, sucks? In the real world, in every profession and walk of life, "trying your best" essentially means didly squat.
I moved on from the Wojo era the day he was let go. Really have no feelings about him and grateful MU pulled the trigger and relieved him of duties. Even more grateful for the hire they made.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 07, 2023, 09:48:11 AM
Exactly Dr.B. "Grateful for trying their best"? What happens if your best, sucks? In the real world, in every profession and walk of life, "trying your best" essentially means didly squat.
Hopefully a polar bear eats them.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 07, 2023, 10:00:10 AM
Hopefully a polar bear eats them.
I never stated they leave this earth with tremendous fear and physical pain.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 07, 2023, 10:05:10 AM
I never stated they leave this earth with tremendous fear and physical pain.
The physical pain would be a welcome end to the never-ending suffering they must endure in their souls knowing they disappointed you.
Thanks to Coach Crean for bringing Diener, Wade, Novak & the 3 Amigos to MU. The Final 4 run. Positioning us for a move to the BIG EAST that continues to pay off to this day. For making peace with the university and continuing to be an advocate for Marquette.
Thanks to Coach Wojo for accepting the buyout and beginning a new life as a hot yoga enthusiast in Utah.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 07, 2023, 09:44:07 AM
You don't really mean that as you slurped Wojo early and often. But go on with your mean spiritness.
Whoosh!
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 07, 2023, 09:48:11 AM
Exactly Dr.B. "Grateful for trying their best"? What happens if your best, sucks? In the real world, in every profession and walk of life, "trying your best" essentially means didly squat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXDSxgDUv-c
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 07, 2023, 09:48:11 AM
Exactly Dr.B. "Grateful for trying their best"? What happens if your best, sucks? In the real world, in every profession and walk of life, "trying your best" essentially means didly squat.
I didn't say that Wojo shouldn't have been fired. Nor do I want either of them to return.
As for the "real world," I don't know about you but when I have had co-workers RIFed for whatever reason, even if I believed they deserved it, I felt compassion for their situation.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 07, 2023, 07:57:57 AM
As for Crean, ax Fr. Wild if piece has been made. This Warrior sez, "kiss my ass," hey?
Which one is more problematic Crean, Wild or the Dentist?
After having a thread locked down last week over your post over the dentists, I seriously cannot believe you would double down on the "dentist". Frickin joke.
Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2023, 11:27:17 AM
After having a thread locked down last week over your post over the dentists, I seriously cannot believe you would double down on the "dentist". Frickin joke.
Huh.
Fluff
Huh, what?
Fluff
Interesting that someone had posts removed and a thread locked and returned to the same topic? I agree.
What's wrong with Dentists?
I don't get it 🤪
Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2023, 11:33:05 AM
Fluff
Interesting that someone had posts removed and a thread locked and returned to the same topic? I agree.
You know Fluff, the old fence sitter. Never a strong opinion either way. Lesser men would call him "milk toast", but he hasn't taken a side on sliced bread.
As for 1 ball, the dude has 8000+ posts and no one remembers his old user name. Irrelevance defined.
Quote from: DoctorV on March 07, 2023, 11:57:56 AM
What's wrong with Dentists?
I don't get it 🤪
They sux...
Crean doesn't particularly stand out as an analyst, but he's a salesman and has the gift of gab, so he'll have a Lavin-esque career in tv, I think.
Wojo, on the other hand, is awful. He likely signed a one year contract and that's the only reason the network is still running him out there this late in the season. Shaka's press conferences are a revelation after 7 years of watching Wojo sweat and mumble his way through media availability while snipping at reporters and making every excuse in the book as to why the team wasn't winning. Boy, did he ever suck as Marquette's coach!
Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2023, 11:27:17 AM
After having a thread locked down last week over your post over the dentists, I seriously cannot believe you would double down on the "dentist". Frickin joke.
Your need to act as the Scoop Hall Monitor is quite something.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 07, 2023, 12:19:21 PM
Crean doesn't particularly stand out as an analyst, but he's a salesman and has the gift of gab, so he'll have a Lavin-esque career in tv, I think.
Wojo, on the other hand, is awful. He likely signed a one year contract and that's the only reason the network is still running him out there this late in the season. Shaka's press conferences are a revelation after 7 years of watching Wojo sweat and mumble his way through media availability while snipping at reporters and making every excuse in the book as to why the team wasn't winning. Boy, did he ever suck as Marquette's coach!
In retrospect, I am wondering if he has a career playing piano?
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 07, 2023, 12:39:06 PM
Your need to act as the Scoop Hall Monitor is quite something.
🐷🐷
Quote from: DoctorV on March 07, 2023, 11:57:56 AM
What's wrong with Dentists?
I don't get it 🤪
Scoop is a noted haven for anti-dentites.
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Quote from: DienerTime34 on March 07, 2023, 10:29:44 AM
Thanks to Coach Crean for bringing Diener, Wade, Novak & the 3 Amigos to MU. The Final 4 run. Positioning us for a move to the BIG EAST that continues to pay off to this day. For making peace with the university and continuing to be an advocate for Marquette.
Thanks to Coach Wojo for accepting the buyout and beginning a new life as a hot yoga enthusiast in Utah.
I agree with this analysis.
MOPES and COLES spend a lot of time on the past, good or bad
Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2023, 09:53:26 AM
I moved on from the Wojo era the day he was let go. Really have no feelings about him and grateful MU pulled the trigger and relieved him of duties. Even more grateful for the hire they made.
This. 'Nuff said.
Back to Big East Tournament anticipation.
The host asked about their greatest Conference Tournament achievement.
Crean said losing to UAB to give them time to regroup and start their Final 4 run in 2003.
Wojo said 'watching' JJ Reddick explode on the scene as a freshman and win the ACC Conference Tournament.
How embarrassing!!! Lol
😂
Quote from: 94Warrior on March 07, 2023, 02:18:59 PM
The host asked about their greatest Conference Tournament achievement.
Crean said losing to UAB to give them time to regroup and start their Final 4 run in 2003.
Wojo said 'watching' JJ Reddick explode on the scene as a freshman and win the ACC Conference Tournament.
How embarrassing!!! Lol
😂
That's pretty pathetic but not at all surprising.
If Tom Crean is named AD after Scholl retires, I'm good for it.
If he wanted to be our Barry with a strong staff of lieutenants around him, I think he would be great.
Quote from: The Lens on March 07, 2023, 03:59:08 PM
If Tom Crean is named AD after Scholl retires, I'm good for it.
If he wanted to be our Barry with a strong staff of lieutenants around him, I think he would be great.
No thanks. Barry wasn't very good and my guess is Tom wouldn't be either.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 07, 2023, 04:01:27 PM
No thanks. Barry wasn't very good and my guess is Tom wouldn't be either.
Teal? I mean the guy oversaw WI for 2 final fours, 4 rose bowls, a hockey championship and runner up, 2 WVB runner ups and a championship.
Idk about the rest of WI sports but I'd happily take that type of performance under any admin whether they're an a$$ or not
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 07, 2023, 04:01:27 PM
No thanks. Barry wasn't very good and my guess is Tom wouldn't be either.
Barry's hoops team when to 2 Final Fours, he just hired Luke Fickel and his football team has
three four Rose Bowls since he left the sidelines.
AD's are fundraisers and heads of state for big state dinners. MU has some very good people "under" Scholl. They can keep the train on the tracks while Tom shakes some trees for cash.
Quote from: The Lens on March 07, 2023, 04:08:17 PM
Barry's hoops team when to 2 Final Fours, he just hired Luke Fickel and his football team has three four Rose Bowls since he left the sidelines.
AD's are fundraisers and heads of state for big state dinners. MU has some very good people "under" Scholl. They can keep the train on the tracks while Tom shakes some trees for cash.
Barry didn't hire Luke Fickell. Chris McIntosh has been AD for over a year. Nor did he hire Bo Ryan.
Barry wasn't very good. Believe me they were behind in A LOT of areas when he left and McIntosh has been playing catch up since. The model you are talking about, where you can slot a former coach in just to raise money, went out of style about two decades ago. Hire a professional AD, who runs a competent and contemporary athletic department, and the money will follow.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 07, 2023, 04:19:03 PM
Barry didn't hire Luke Fickell. Chris McIntosh has been AD for over a year. Nor did he hire Bo Ryan.
Barry wasn't very good. Believe me they were behind in A LOT of areas when he left and McIntosh has been playing catch up since. The model you are talking about, where you can slot a former coach in just to raise money, went out of style about two decades ago. Hire a professional AD, who runs a competent and contemporary athletic department, and the money will follow.
If you believe that Luke Fickel got to UW without Barry Alvarez...
Quote from: The Lens on March 07, 2023, 04:21:22 PM
If you believe that Luke Fickel got to UW without Barry Alvarez...
Trust the man - he's the number one Badger fan around these parts.
Quote from: The Lens on March 07, 2023, 04:21:22 PM
If you believe that Luke Fickel got to UW without Barry Alvarez...
LOL. Luke Fickell got to UW without Barry Alvarez. It was McIntosh working with the football booster whose name escapes me that got him to Madison. Barry's been unplugged and sitting down in Naples since he left.
My overall point is that when Scholl retires, they should be in a great place to hire a competent athletic director from another institution. IMO you have an alumnus at Loyola Marymount who is very highly regarded, with a great background at multiple institutions.
Sultan is right.
Barry was also involved in the Bo massage scandal, both were banging the same woman or something. Can't remember exactly.
McIntosh has full control over UW athletics.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 07, 2023, 04:30:41 PM
Sultan is right.
Barry was also involved in the Bo massage scandal, both were banging the same woman or something. Can't remember exactly.
McIntosh has full control over UW athletics.
Yup. McIntosh has the moneyed interests in his pocket at the moment. It'd be better for Badger hating if Barry was still around to be honest
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 07, 2023, 04:25:56 PM
My overall point is that when Scholl retires, they should be in a great place to hire a competent athletic director from another institution. IMO you have an alumnus at Loyola Marymount who is very highly regarded, with a great background at multiple institutions.
I do agree on Pintens. He's the first phone call.
Let's recalibrate. Maybe TC gets a Jack Harbaugh role. Look I'm no TC fan but he could be an asset in a development role setting.
(Scoop, where a picture of Wojo & Tom Crean leads to a discussion of Barry & Bo's "off the field" love lives)
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 07, 2023, 04:25:56 PM
My overall point is that when Scholl retires, they should be in a great place to hire a competent athletic director from another institution. IMO you have an alumnus at Loyola Marymount who is very highly regarded, with a great background at multiple institutions.
I think MU has an AD in waiting
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 07, 2023, 05:04:22 PM
I think MU has an AD in waiting
I think you might be right there too.
Crean brought a final four, and his associated success brought in the final four million to get the Al done. His final four team is still very tight with him.
That said, he LIED to FR. Wild about leaving MU. You don't do that....and get to come back as THE executive for that institution. It's also problematic that the staff had zero respect for him as a leader back in the day. When he was at the F4 celebration this year, many AD staff had unpleasant flashbacks.
Head coaches are quirky. Al was, Crean, Buzz, and Shaka too. When you get a good mix of quirkiness and self awareness, you get Al and Shaka. When you don't.......you get Buzz and Crean.
Do I believe he's reflected, and tried to repent...yes. I suspect his failures might have humbled him a bit (the perma tan might say otherwise). Does that get him a shot at executive leadership here....hell no.
Buzz was here for 8 years, Crean 9. A little soon to put Shaka in Al's category.
Quote from: FartyEightHours on March 07, 2023, 05:47:33 PM
Buzz was here for 8 years, Crean 9. A little soon to put Shaka in Al's category.
Thought it was 6 for Buzz.... Hmmm 2008 -2014?
Quote from: Daniel on March 07, 2023, 06:19:00 PM
Thought it was 6 for Buzz.... Hmmm 2008 -2014?
Maybe including his time as an assistant coach. But...'13-14' should not count because he checked out while still collecting his salary.
Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2023, 11:27:17 AM
After having a thread locked down last week over your post over the dentists, I seriously cannot believe you would double down on the "dentist". Frickin joke.
🤔
Quote from: 🏀 on March 07, 2023, 08:06:09 PM
You're not sure either, aina?
Bullchit move last week.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 07, 2023, 06:44:20 PM
Maybe including his time as an assistant coach. But...'13-14' should not count because he checked out while still collecting his salary.
Great point Scoop Snoop. He completely checked out.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 07, 2023, 08:09:33 PM
Great point Scoop Snoop. He completely checked out.
He was looong gone.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 07, 2023, 08:10:36 PM
He was looong gone.
He really stunted John Dawson's growth by checking out
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 07, 2023, 08:11:17 PM
He really stunted John Dawson's growth by checking out
Lol 😂
Mr Dawson posted here for a bit. Well intended.
?-(
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 07, 2023, 08:11:17 PM
He really stunted John Dawson's growth by checking out
He really stunted the team's growth by playing Derrick Wilson 30+ and then your boy wonder Wojo followed suit the next year!! Epic coaching failures. At least Buzz's was intentional.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 07, 2023, 08:10:36 PM
He was looong gone.
Ya....I could tell very early that year that Jamil and Davante were not ready to play. I also think Davante lost track/interest in his weight and threw down pizzas, burgers, and a plethora of fast food.
If y'all think Buzz' ego would allow him to lose on purpose, you don't know Buzz very well.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 07, 2023, 10:06:22 PM
If y'all think Buzz' ego would allow him to lose on purpose, you don't know Buzz very well.
Other than Elonmusk ("was intentional"),
where did anyone say anything about Buzz "losing on purpose"? I said he "checked out" and I believe others agreed in so many words. Huge difference between the two.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 07, 2023, 10:12:30 PM
Other than Elonmusk ("was intentional"), where did anyone say anything about Buzz "losing on purpose"? I said he "checked out" and I believe others agreed in so many words. Huge difference between the two.
If y'all think Buzz' ego would allow him to check out, you don't know Buzz very well
In 2014 we lost 4 games on OT, the last two in 2OT. We didn't exactly roll over.
Quote from: The Lens on March 07, 2023, 10:39:10 PM
In 2014 we lost 4 games on OT, the last two in 2OT. We didn't exactly roll over.
Yea, I think there's a bit of revisionist history on that year. We were 9-9 in the Big East. I remember not having a great non-conference.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 07, 2023, 09:23:03 PM
He really stunted the team's growth by playing Derrick Wilson 30+ and then your boy wonder Wojo followed suit the next year!! Epic coaching failures. At least Buzz's was intentional.
Buzz was playing Derrick because he felt Derrick was the best option. The idea that he was mailing it in is laughable. TAMU is spot on - Buzz doesn't do that.
As Lens and cheebs pointed out, they lost a ton of close games. Furthermore, Buzz put together an incomplete team. Granted, he wasn't expecting Vander to leave, but Steve Taylor, Juan Anderson and Todd Mayo were all replacement level players who needed to step up - and they just didn't. So you end up playing Jake Thomas 30 minutes a game.
Buzz was tanking for a higher pick of his job! Guys it's obvious why else would we miraculously lose? Roster mismanagement? LOL!!!! That's some COLE stuff
Buzz wasn't happy anymore, it is what it is. The Larry Williams/Pilarz combo was a doozy. It'd be hard to work with them.
Quote from: FartyEightHours on March 08, 2023, 08:48:20 AM
Buzz wasn't happy anymore, it is what it is. The Larry Williams/Pilarz combo was a doozy. It'd be hard to work with them.
We can't forget about Buzz's kids and his altruism with regards to them. It was very touching
Always fun to revisit the Buzz/Derrick/Dawson/Jake/Wojo/Derrick subject.
And y'all aren't gonna believe this, but O'Tule supposedly played at Marquette with just one eye!
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 07, 2023, 10:18:08 PM
If y'all think Buzz' ego would allow him to check out, you don't know Buzz very well
He wasn't checked out. He was just spending too much time at Kinko's printing out his resume.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 08, 2023, 09:16:25 AM
He wasn't checked out. He was just spending too much time at Kinko's printing out his resume.
Did he go big and used bond paper?
I thought he hand wrote his resume, along with the 100 hand written letters he mails out every day.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 08, 2023, 09:16:25 AM
He wasn't checked out. He was just spending too much time at Kinko's printing out his resume.
I heard from good sources within Zilber that he left bc Print World closed.
I am totally optimistic that this time we will all come to 100% consensus on what happened nearly ten years ago.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 08, 2023, 10:24:07 AM
I am totally optimistic that this time we will all come to 100% consensus on what happened nearly ten years ago.
I'm guessing we'll have concensus by 4pm ET, then we can tackle 2019.
"OMG is that the letter writer's music!!!"
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 08, 2023, 10:24:07 AM
I am totally optimistic that this time we will all come to 100% consensus on what happened nearly ten years ago.
I know one thing for sure. A guy who was hoping to move on to a new job was throwing games at his current job to stick it to his current job's administration. Definitely a guaranteed way to look as attractive as a candidate as possible so you can get the best job available come coaching carousel time.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 08, 2023, 09:45:22 AM
I thought he hand wrote his resume, along with the 100 hand written letters he mails out every day.
The copier was for the 200 coaches' contracts he FOIA'ed.
Crean and Wojo discussing Boeheim's swan song.
Crean admitting Syracuse was difficult to prepare for.
You would think in that binder of all those plays there would be something about attacking a zone.
Quote from: tower912 on March 08, 2023, 04:57:44 PM
Crean and Wojo discussing Boeheim's swan song.
Crean admitting Syracuse was difficult to prepare for.
You would think in that binder of all those plays there would be something about attacking a zone.
You mean the endless loop 3 man weave wasn't the answer?
Quote from: wadesworld on March 08, 2023, 10:31:50 AM
I know one thing for sure. A guy who was hoping to move on to a new job was throwing games at his current job to stick it to his current job's administration. Definitely a guaranteed way to look as attractive as a candidate as possible so you can get the best job available come coaching carousel time.
I know one thing for sure. A guy coming off Sweet 16, Sweet 16, Elite 8, who then got dealt a Keystone Cops President and AD who made hime fire a great friend (Monarch) and removed the AD who hired him (Cottingham), had all the ammo he needed to be an "attractive candidate," despite a bad last year.
Buzz massively exceeded expectations every year. The one year he didn't? He was picked to win the Big East, and instesad finished 9-9 and 6th in the Big East. He yanked Burton in the Big East tournament with 8 minutes left and didn't re-insert him into the game until 30 seconds were left and at which time there was zero hope of winning.
Sorry, but anybody who thinks he was engaged, or fully invested into MU winning, doesn't understand how petty Buzz could be. And giving MU/dipshit Larry Williams a big F-You on the way out the door? Highly probable. Period.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 08, 2023, 05:36:28 PM
I know one thing for sure. A guy coming off Sweet 16, Sweet 16, Elite 8, who then got dealt a Keystone Cops President and AD who made hime fire a great friend (Monarch) and removed the AD who hired him (Cottingham), had all the ammo he needed to be an "attractive candidate," despite a bad last year.
Buzz massively exceeded expectations every year. The one year he didn't? He was picked to win the Big East, and instesad finished 9-9 and 6th in the Big East. He yanked Burton in the Big East tournament with 8 minutes left and didn't re-insert him into the game until 30 seconds were left and at which time there was zero hope of winning.
Sorry, but anybody who thinks he was engaged, or fully invested into MU winning, doesn't understand how petty Buzz could be. And giving MU/dipcrap Larry Williams a big F-You on the way out the door? Highly probable. Period.
Larry Williams (and Pilarz) were already long shytcanned. The Buzz FU was to Fr. Wild and Bill Cords. Buzz's last straw was when Wild/Cords wouldn't roll back the Pilarz/Williams Rules to let Charles Matthews in, telling Buzz that was for the next regime.
You could say they flushed him.
Larry and Pilarz poisoned the well imo before they were gone halfway through the season.
There was some crap about giving a t shirt to a player they were giving Buzz heat for. I believe there were also rumors of some player(s) assaulting?? a female.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 08, 2023, 05:36:28 PM
I know one thing for sure. A guy coming off Sweet 16, Sweet 16, Elite 8, who then got dealt a Keystone Cops President and AD who made hime fire a great friend (Monarch) and removed the AD who hired him (Cottingham), had all the ammo he needed to be an "attractive candidate," despite a bad last year.
Buzz massively exceeded expectations every year. The one year he didn't? He was picked to win the Big East, and instesad finished 9-9 and 6th in the Big East. He yanked Burton in the Big East tournament with 8 minutes left and didn't re-insert him into the game until 30 seconds were left and at which time there was zero hope of winning.
Sorry, but anybody who thinks he was engaged, or fully invested into MU winning, doesn't understand how petty Buzz could be. And giving MU/dipcrap Larry Williams a big F-You on the way out the door? Highly probable. Period.
I think you are completely wrong.
But if you aren't, then every fan should be glad he left because that's deplorable behavior.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 08, 2023, 05:47:37 PM
Larry Williams (and Pilarz) were already long shytcanned. The Buzz FU was to Fr. Wild and Bill Cords. Buzz's last straw was when Wild/Cords wouldn't roll back the Pilarz/Williams Rules to let Charles Matthews in, telling Buzz that was for the next regime.
You could say they flushed him.
Dis ^^^^^^
Quote from: FartyEightHours on March 08, 2023, 07:03:07 PM
There was some crap about giving a t shirt to a player they were giving Buzz heat for. I believe there were also rumors of some players assaulting females.
There's also Vander punching a guy at Qdoba and the massive bar fight at Apt 720. 3/5 of these things are not big deals in a vacuum but when you take a step back it's understandable why some of the higher ups said "we need to reel things in a bit"
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 08, 2023, 08:26:30 PM
There's also Vander punching a guy at Qdoba and the massive bar fight at Apt 720. Most of these things are not big deals in a vacuum but when you take a step back it's understandable why some of the higher ups said "we need to reel things in a bit"
Vander Orange! What a night lol
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 08, 2023, 08:26:30 PM
There's also Vander punching a guy at Qdoba and the massive bar fight at Apt 720.
When your basketball players start acting like Sig Eps, it's time to go full SLU mode.
Quick, let's nuke the basketball team, they're behaving like a bunch of Brother Rice grads.
Quote from: The Lens on March 08, 2023, 09:00:51 PM
When your basketball players start acting like Sig Eps, it's time to go full SLU mode.
Quick, let's nuke the basketball team, they're behaving like a bunch of Brother Rice grads.
Michigan or Chicago brother rice?
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 07, 2023, 04:30:41 PM
Barry was also involved in the Bo massage scandal, both were banging the same woman or something. Can't remember exactly.
Christ, what an pretty boy.