1. SJU made a choice to force Kolek to play defense. On Stanley. Also made a choice to put their heads down and drive, seeking contact. MU obliged.
2. In short, SJU was more physical and aggressive.
3. This team still gets 3 happy sometimes.
4. That early 30-11 lead was fun. See#2.
5. Turns out MU is still susceptible to bully ball.
6. Not going to help the defensive stats.
7. Glad TKo is at MU
8. In the last couple of weeks, so many other contenders have lost games like this. MU hasn't.
8. Put up 90+. Needed them all.
8. On to MSG. Not going to be easy.
Premature posting. SO BUSTED.
Forgiven. Shaka thought it was over too.
Never a doubt.
We get em again on Thursday.
The points are all still valid. Barely.
Never a doubt 8-)
Give St. John's and the horseshoe up their collective asses in that last minute a ton of credit. Yikes.
Terrible day for nolongerwarriors. Thought he had a shining moment in a year of self-owns and being wrong about everything. On top of it, Marquette won the Big East going away with an African-American coach which is what really burns him.
That MU troll job of nolongerwarriors the last minute was master class
To be fair, Michael Kennedy had nothing to do with that last stretch.
St. John's hit ridiculous shots and got a great whistle.
Good on Shaka to get him back out. Whatever.
Please don't post these before the end of the game the rest of the year.
...phew
Not upset at that end. Marquette kind of gave up and thought it was over and then "March" happened. That's a teachable moment for sure. Nice to have those lessons without losing.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 04, 2023, 03:25:51 PM
Not upset at that end. Marquette kind of gave up and thought it was over and then "March" happened. That's a teachable moment for sure. Nice to have those lessons without losing.
Yup. Have to play 40 minutes. A lot of teams learned this the hard way over the last week
No longer already peddling his bike down to Walmart for half off Vadger gear!!!
Johnnies have talented players . Games like this are never a given .
Missed free throws down the stretch hurt
Glad we got the win and now we go to the Garden with the full knowledge we have to show up for 40 minutes .
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 04, 2023, 03:24:59 PM
Terrible day for nolongerwarriors. Thought he had a shining moment in a year of self-owns and being wrong about everything. On top of it, Marquette won the Big East going away with an African-American coach which is what really burns him.
Oh please tell me more.
Whew.
I want absolutely nothing to do with SJU at the Garden. Huge Butler fan on Wednesday.
What did TK say to Stanley???
It worked.
No longer is my bitch!
- those officials should never be allowed near a basketball game again. The BEAST needs to do better
- Everything St.Johns did was a foul, for the whole game.
- Probably see them again on Thursday.... just hope they don't hurt anyone, and lucky they didn't this game
- Rugby is less violent
Needed to pad the close win resume'.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 04, 2023, 03:27:46 PM
What did TK say to Stanley???
"we're going to Real Chili after the game, comin?"
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 04, 2023, 03:25:46 PM
Please don't post these before the end of the game the rest of the year.
...phew
Please. Why risk it? Do you get some kind of bonus if you post it three minutes earlier?
Was out running errands, got home turned the game on with Michael Kennedy coming in. Looked at the score and thought too soon. I scheduled an appt with my cardiologist for Monday.
STJ played out of their minds, got serious ref help, and had some crazy bullshit plays at the end. Marquette still won.
Bring on STJ in the first round, we will pound them.
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 04, 2023, 03:29:40 PM
Was out running errands, got home turned the game on with Michael Kennedy coming in. Looked at the score and thought too soon. I scheduled an appt with my cardiologist for Monday.
Him coming in had zero impact unless it caused the other guys to lose focus, which it shouldn't have.
SJU will beat MU if they end up playing each other again.
And it will be because of Kolek acting like a brat and giving them extra motivation.
That is what happens when you think you crossed the finish line. Hopefully, good lesson to take to the tournaments.
Koleks your bitch Limberger!!
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 04, 2023, 03:25:01 PM
That MU troll job of nolongerwarriors the last minute was master class
Why is he not banned? I don't usually pay attention to the game thread. Just read some of it. The guy isn't an MU fan. Just boot him.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 04, 2023, 03:30:43 PM
Him coming in had zero impact unless it caused the other guys to lose focus, which it shouldn't have.
Correct. No impact at all.
If anything maybe Marquette learned a valuable lesson about free throws and March wackiness late.
Learned a lesson while pulling out a win.
That's 2 wins IMO.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 04, 2023, 03:30:43 PM
Him coming in had zero impact unless it caused the other guys to lose focus, which it shouldn't have.
One less ball handler or person to pass it to on the inbounds pass
Marquette had exactly zero bad beats this season. How many top teams can say that?
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 04, 2023, 03:37:47 PM
One less ball handler or person to pass it to on the inbounds pass
4 missed FTs plus 2 absolutely prayer 3's, one of which was a 4 point play. That was the problem.
Quote from: Hoops92 on March 04, 2023, 03:31:41 PM
That is what happens when you think you crossed the finish line. Hopefully, good lesson to take to the tournaments.
You're not wrong.
No finish line!
STJ scored 10 points in 9 seconds at the end.
Quote from: Hoops92 on March 04, 2023, 03:35:33 PM
Why is he not banned? I don't usually pay attention to the game thread. Just read some of it. The guy isn't an MU fan. Just boot him.
Great question. Because mods need bigger balls? Idk that's all I got
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 04, 2023, 03:39:18 PM
4 missed FTs plus 2 absolutely prayer 3's, one of which was a 4 point play. That was the problem.
You're not wrong, bit still too early to put in a walkon
The fact that we have Badger trolls saying Marquette sucks warms my heart. NolongerWarriors peed down leg yet again.
If you look at Buckyuville it's just despair and it's delicious.
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 04, 2023, 03:45:16 PM
You're not wrong, bit still too early to put in a walkon
It was maybe a little early but it shouldn't have mattered and I still don't think it had much of an impact. Feels like SJ's could have headbutted the ball in from 3 in the last 20 seconds.
Quote from: WarriorDoc on March 04, 2023, 03:45:19 PM
The fact that we have Badger trolls saying Marquette sucks warms my heart. NolongerWarriors peed down leg yet again.
If you look at Buckyuville it's just despair and it's delicious.
Is NLW a badger troll? I pegged him as someone that sort of liked both teams at one point but hates Shaka.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 04, 2023, 03:49:59 PM
Is NLW a badger troll? I pegged him as someone that sort of liked both teams at one point but hates Shaka.
He hates Shaka. He wanted Porter Moser. History search Porter Moser and NLW. Lots of common themes in his posts
No need to ban NLW if you ignore him. Try a little self control. Every time you think there's a need to reply to one of his inane posts...
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/4a73907a3c1162d347a88df62453b3d3/tenor.gif?itemid=10867126)
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 04, 2023, 03:49:59 PM
Is NLW a badger troll? I pegged him as someone that sort of liked both teams at one point but hates Shaka that we have a black head coach because he's a racist douche
Fixed
Quote from: warriorchick on March 04, 2023, 03:38:33 PM
Marquette had exactly zero bad beats this season. How many top teams can say that?
Badgers?
Quote from: 1SE on March 04, 2023, 03:53:25 PM
Badgers?
Yep. Wiscy's super bowl, their last good win, and what is keeping them any where near the bubble.
For some reason StJ always shoots great from 3 against us. Happened earlier in the year but some of these heaves were ridiculous. I understand their bully ball based on the kind of guys they have but their success from 3 (and from the FT line) hard to explain
Glad we won. Great regular season. Now let's make it really special.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 04, 2023, 04:00:20 PM
For some reason StJ always shoots great from 3 against us. Happened earlier in the year but some of these heaves were ridiculous. I understand their bully ball based on the kind of guys they have but their success from 3 (and from the FT line) hard to explain
Glad we won. Great regular season. Now let's make it really special.
9 of their points were on truly absurd shots. They also hit at least 2-3 other deep 3s that I didn't mind them taking.
Quote from: 1SE on March 04, 2023, 03:53:25 PM
Badgers?
At the time they were top 30-35 so not really.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 04, 2023, 04:01:52 PM
9 of their points were on truly absurd shots. They also hit at least 2-3 other deep 3s that I didn't mind them taking.
That 3 they hit to close the first half kind of set the tone.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 04, 2023, 04:03:55 PM
That 3 they hit to close the first half kind of set the tone.
Posh made a long 3 around the 1:15 mark after the defense locked them down for about :20-:25 or so. It was that kind of day
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 04, 2023, 03:27:46 PM
What did TK say to Stanley???
Pardon me, but do you inhale or exhale on your follow through?
Lessons to learn from losing focus at the end. I do think the subbing of Kennedy lead to a let down. At least with Shaka I am confident it won't happen again--with players or coaches.
Getting a really good lesson when you still win is a nice combination.
Even though he missed two at the end, TKO is the only guy I have confidence in at the line at the end of the game. Although big credit to Oso as he's been nails in that situation in spite of his struggles this season.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 04, 2023, 03:27:46 PM
What did TK say to Stanley???
Somebody please post the opening scene from white Men Cant Jump
Quote from: connie on March 04, 2023, 04:17:02 PM
Lessons to learn from losing focus at the end. I do think the subbing of Kennedy lead to a let down. At least with Shaka I am confident it won't happen again--with players or coaches.
Maybe the fans should have let Tyler focus instead of chanting MVP
The unwritten rule is if the other team is still fouling, dont put in the walkons
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 04, 2023, 04:18:51 PM
Maybe the fans should have let Tyler focus instead of chanting MVP
Is this a serious post?
Did they cut down the nets after the game today?
Definitely a lesson for us. When you get up 10 with 29 seconds left assume the other team still has 6 more possessions.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 04, 2023, 03:29:47 PM
STJ played out of their minds, got serious ref help, and had some crazy bullcrap plays at the end. Marquette still won.
Bring on STJ in the first round, we will pound them.
11. Jeez, St. John's was making lucky shots. That 3 pointer at the end of the 1st half, couple quick 3s with less than 20seconds among the other things cited here.
They made some very lucky shots. They also missed a lay up and a free throw in that last sequence.
TKo asked if he wanted a t shirt.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 04, 2023, 04:28:19 PM
11. Jeez, St. John's was making lucky shots. That 3 pointer at the end of the 1st half, couple quick 3s with less than 20seconds among the other things cited here.
They had some really lucky shots - but we had two 3s that bounced high off the rim and went in - so they only had most of the good luck, not all of it
Quote from: Fred Garvin on March 04, 2023, 04:24:23 PM
Did they cut down the nets after the game today?
Yes. Can someone summarize what happens with Kolek and Stanley for those of us at the game?
Quote from: MUDPT on March 04, 2023, 04:46:55 PM
Yes. Can someone summarize what happens with Kolek and Stanley for those of us at the game?
Kolek said something to him at the line. Typical trash talk stuff I'm sure
If it really is harder to beat a team the third time after beating them twice, Thursday's game is going to be REALLY difficult.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 04, 2023, 04:50:34 PM
Kolek said something to him at the line. Typical trash talk stuff I'm sure
"Mailman doesn't deliver on Sundays."
I never thought I'd see a contested half courter be the third unlikeliest shot a team hits.
:P
Quote from: wisblue on March 04, 2023, 04:55:17 PM
If it really is harder to beat a team the third time after beating them twice, Thursday's game is going to be REALLY difficult.
strong COLE effort, does it come so effortlessly for you?
https://coachbobwalsh.com/2018/03/02/its-hard-to-beat-a-team-three-times/ (https://coachbobwalsh.com/2018/03/02/its-hard-to-beat-a-team-three-times/)
From the article...
So over a 10-year period in college basketball including almost 1,000 games, the team that won the first 2 games won the third meeting 72.4% of the time. So it clearly doesn't follow that it is hard to beat a team 3 times. In fact, it's actually kind of easy.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 04, 2023, 04:50:34 PM
Kolek said something to him at the line. Typical trash talk stuff I'm sure
"Didn't know they grew em so small down on the farm". TK saying this made no sense but it worked
NM - Duplicate post
St. John's won by 11 at UConn. Everyone settle the F**k down.
Quote from: tower912 on March 04, 2023, 03:14:00 PM
2. In short, SJU was more physical and aggressive.
5. Turns out MU is still susceptible to bully ball.
Got a feeling that, at whatever level, that's how our BET or NCAA will end.
It's been a great ride though.
https://youtu.be/HMN9KHUuTr0
Who is the press member with the ridiculous question to end this session?
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 04, 2023, 03:25:51 PM
Not upset at that end. Marquette kind of gave up and thought it was over and then "March" happened. That's a teachable moment for sure. Nice to have those lessons without losing.
What is to teach. They have had no finish line drilled down for quite a while. Should have learned by now.
Quote from: connie on March 04, 2023, 04:17:02 PM
Lessons to learn from losing focus at the end. I do think the subbing of Kennedy lead to a let down. At least with Shaka I am confident it won't happen again--with players or coaches.
At least not this year. No more Senior day.
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 04, 2023, 04:20:04 PM
The unwritten rule is if the other team is still fouling, dont put in the walkons
Pearl of wisdom
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 04, 2023, 04:05:28 PM
Posh made a long 3 around the 1:15 mark after the defense locked them down for about :20-:25 or so. It was that kind of day
Posh on the year:
Vs. MU: 5 of 10 (2 of 4 and 3 of 6)
Vs. the rest: 7 of 47
Stupid.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 04, 2023, 05:31:24 PM
What is to teach. They have had no finish line drilled down for quite a while. Should have learned by now.
Cost them the Big East title, at least 4-seed lines and made me tear down my Warriors pennant in my living room in disgust
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 04, 2023, 05:19:00 PM
Got a feeling that, at whatever level, that's how our BET or NCAA will end.
It's been a great ride though.
Pluses for SJ: MSG, NYC
Pluses for Marquette: SJ has to play on Wednesday and, if they beat Butler (I think likely), play us the next day while we are fresh. Shaka and the team will take what they learned from today's game and will be better prepared for SJ. I doubt that SJ can do better than they did today, as this was probably one of their best games of the season.
Regarding the NCAA- Who knows? You may be proven right. Or not.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 04, 2023, 03:29:47 PM
STJ played out of their minds, got serious ref help, and had some crazy bullcrap plays at the end. Marquette still won.
Bring on STJ in the first round, we will pound them.
Why don't we even get ref help at home! Ha!
Quote from: Daniel on March 04, 2023, 06:16:09 PM
Why don't we even get ref help at home! Ha!
Because when we do get "ref help," we don't even realize it and never mention it - like the play today when Jop shoulda been called for passing to himself but all 3 refs blew it.
Quote from: MU82 on March 04, 2023, 06:23:51 PM
Because when we do get "ref help," we don't even realize it and never mention it - like the play today when Jop shoulda been called for passing to himself but all 3 refs blew it.
One of the late and 1s in our favor was a phantom call too.
Quote from: MU82 on March 04, 2023, 06:23:51 PM
Because when we do get "ref help," we don't even realize it and never mention it - like the play today when Jop shoulda been called for passing to himself but all 3 refs blew it.
Higher Stepper Anderson ran in with his drama Queen trot and was ready to reverse that but Szelc indicated it was tipped. Mike Anderson and Szelc were going at it during that time out. I was surprised there was no T.
Officiating was just bad and uneven but I don't think it favored either team egregiously
Don't know where to put this but here looks good
https://mobile.twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1632175413714735106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1632175413714735106%7Ctwgr%5Eb28815bdb5099d90a64393989e96608b3ba791ef%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.realgm.com%2Fboards%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D2023344start%3D180
Quote from: MU82 on March 04, 2023, 06:23:51 PM
Because when we do get "ref help," we don't even realize it and never mention it - like the play today when Jop shoulda been called for passing to himself but all 3 refs blew it.
It touched OMax's hand. Just barely.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401485287
Quote from: tower912 on March 04, 2023, 07:01:53 PM
It touched OMax's hand. Just barely.
I think so too
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 04, 2023, 04:50:34 PM
Kolek said something to him at the line. Typical trash talk stuff I'm sure
The announcers said Kolek asked him if he "wanted a t-shirt".
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 04, 2023, 06:12:24 PM
Pluses for SJ: MSG, NYC
Pluses for Marquette: SJ has to play on Wednesday and, if they beat Butler (I think likely), play us the next day while we are fresh. Shaka and the team will take what they learned from today's game and will be better prepared for SJ. I doubt that SJ can do better than they did today, as this was probably one of their best games of the season.
Regarding the NCAA- Who knows? You may be proven right. Or not.
100% correct on the middle paragraph. This was St. John's peak effort and they lost. Marquette can score consistently at that level. St Johns cannot. Should be a comfortable win if we play them again.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 04, 2023, 08:26:29 PM
The announcers said Kolek asked him if he "wanted a t-shirt".
I can't believe he's never been sucker punched in his career.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 04, 2023, 08:26:29 PM
The announcers said Kolek asked him if he "wanted a t-shirt".
Tyler should totally pull a Carly Simon here and auction off whispering in the ear of the winner what he said! Perfect NIL opportunity.
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 04, 2023, 09:20:22 PM
Tyler should totally pull a Carly Simon here and auction off whispering in the ear of the winner what he said! Perfect NIL opportunity.
He might have already whispered it to MarquetteMike1977.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 04, 2023, 08:46:10 PM
I can't believe he's never been sucker punched in his career.
Did you ever play high level basketball? He talks a ton, but so do SOOO many guys. I don't recall Larry Bird ever getting sucker punched. Reggie Miller got in a tussle with punches thrown but he was an aggressor, not cause he was running his mouth.
Anyways, as someone who was at the game today, Jeff "Da High Steppa" Anderson put in a Donaghy level performance. I don't think he was out to get Marquette, but he had some weird need to assist and keep SJ in the game at all costs.
Early on, when MU was rolling, I believe at the under 12 timeout, Anderson is talking to fans near center court(which he does WAYYYY too much). Kolek comes over to say something. Mind you this is before any weird calls and Kolek hadn't been remotely demonstrative to this point. Anderson ignores him. Kolek moves around to get Anderson's attention, High Steppa rotates his body 90 degrees to continue giving Kolek his back while saying whatever he's saying. Kolek shrugs in annoyance and walks away. At that point, I was thinking "I wouldn't be shocked to see some nonsense". Sure enough, within 5 min of gameplay, he had made 3 questionable calls including running across the court to overrule something. The Kinsella interaction was absolutely ridiculous to see in real time.
The last minute of the game was one of the weirdest, most surreal, jarring finishes to a game Ive ever attended. The turnaround David Jones 3 in the corner off the steal was absolutely absurd. The phantom And-1 on Addae-Wusu's 3 was inexplicable in real time. And the entire, I mean ENTIRE, arena, including both benches, was baffled by the final "shooting" foul that put Stanley on the line. The initial signal by the official was out of bounds, Marquette ball. When Kolek didn't go to throw it in, the reaction was they called it SJ ball. When Jakubowski announced a foul, it wasn't even immediate disgust, it was a murmured "WTF?!" reaction.
On a more humorous note, my favorite random part of the game was at 15:30 in the 2nd half, a ball went off a foot and out of bounds, MU ball. David Jones sprinted to the SJ bench and sideline making the "REVIEW IT" twirling motion. As if that was a thing that would be done at that point of the game. It made me laugh.
What didn't make me laugh was the following Steph Curry-esque performances:
David Jones (career 29% 3P shooter): 2/5 from 3, both contested desperate shots late.
Dylan Addae-Wusu (34% 3P shooter, averages 1.2 makes per game): 4/6, new career high in points, only other time he's ever made 9 shots in a game was against Depaul
Posh Alexander (18% EIGHTEEN 3P shooter): Before missing a rushed 3 late, he was 3/5. Leading up to today, he made NINE 3s all damn season.
Actually feeling blessed to win despite 3 separate Jean Felix performances.
Kolek fouled him.
Quote from: tower912 on March 04, 2023, 07:01:53 PM
It touched OMax's hand. Just barely.
Agree, that was not a missed call.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 04, 2023, 05:33:09 PM
At least not this year. No more Senior day.
Shaka was no doubt feeling the weight of getting Kennedy in. That why some coaches just have seniors start the game and sub them out after a possession or two. That's the best way to play it.
That said, Kennedy in there had zero to do with how dangerously close it got to OT, but certainly could have. They were playing 4 on 5 for however many seconds he was out there.
No harm done, play it differently in future years is all to be learned.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 04, 2023, 09:42:01 PM
Did you ever play high level basketball? He talks a ton, but so do SOOO many guys. I don't recall Larry Bird ever getting sucker punched. Reggie Miller got in a tussle with punches thrown but he was an aggressor, not cause he was running his mouth.
Anyways, as someone who was at the game today, Jeff "Da High Steppa" Anderson put in a Donaghy level performance. I don't think he was out to get Marquette, but he had some weird need to assist and keep SJ in the game at all costs.
Early on, when MU was rolling, I believe at the under 12 timeout, Anderson is talking to fans near center court(which he does WAYYYY too much). Kolek comes over to say something. Mind you this is before any weird calls and Kolek hadn't been remotely demonstrative to this point. Anderson ignores him. Kolek moves around to get Anderson's attention, High Steppa rotates his body 90 degrees to continue giving Kolek his back while saying whatever he's saying. Kolek shrugs in annoyance and walks away. At that point, I was thinking "I wouldn't be shocked to see some nonsense". Sure enough, within 5 min of gameplay, he had made 3 questionable calls including running across the court to overrule something. The Kinsella interaction was absolutely ridiculous to see in real time.
The last minute of the game was one of the weirdest, most surreal, jarring finishes to a game Ive ever attended. The turnaround David Jones 3 in the corner off the steal was absolutely absurd. The phantom And-1 on Addae-Wusu's 3 was inexplicable in real time. And the entire, I mean ENTIRE, arena, including both benches, was baffled by the final "shooting" foul that put Stanley on the line. The initial signal by the official was out of bounds, Marquette ball. When Kolek didn't go to throw it in, the reaction was they called it SJ ball. When Jakubowski announced a foul, it wasn't even immediate disgust, it was a murmured "WTF?!" reaction.
On a more humorous note, my favorite random part of the game was at 15:30 in the 2nd half, a ball went off a foot and out of bounds, MU ball. David Jones sprinted to the SJ bench and sideline making the "REVIEW IT" twirling motion. As if that was a thing that would be done at that point of the game. It made me laugh.
What didn't make me laugh was the following Steph Curry-esque performances:
David Jones (career 29% 3P shooter): 2/5 from 3, both contested desperate shots late.
Dylan Addae-Wusu (34% 3P shooter, averages 1.2 makes per game): 4/6, new career high in points, only other time he's ever made 9 shots in a game was against Depaul
Posh Alexander (18% EIGHTEEN 3P shooter): Before missing a rushed 3 late, he was 3/5. Leading up to today, he made NINE 3s all damn season.
Actually feeling blessed to win despite 3 separate Jean Felix performances.
X beat us in just about every stat except rebounding and we won by one, go figure. A good team still wins even when the other team is playing their A+ game. Let the blessings keep comming.
The thing that concerns me the most about SJU was they really got into the lane at will. And if they get hot, they most certainly could beat us at MSG. I would much rather play Butler.
I don't think that last foul call was a shooting foul.
Wasn't SJ in the double bonus?
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 05, 2023, 07:14:19 AM
The thing that concerns me the most about SJU was they really got into the lane at will. And if they get hot, they most certainly could beat us at MSG. I would much rather play Butler.
Summed up perfectly. The comments in Go Butler thread about playing them are really stupid and so homer sounding. It's tournament time, beware of everyone because anything can and does happen. And pretending there's no difference between playing St John's or Butler is just deliberately ignoring reality.
Quote from: wisblue on March 05, 2023, 07:22:15 AM
I don't think that last foul call was a shooting foul.
Wasn't SJ in the double bonus?
Yes.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 05, 2023, 07:22:43 AM
Summed up perfectly. The comments in Go Butler thread about playing them are really stupid and so homer sounding. It's tournament time, beware of everyone because anything can and does happen. And pretending there's no difference between playing St John's or Butler is just deliberately ignoring reality.
COLE gets stronger in the post-season too..
Point
The fear factor is going to rise rapidly over the upcoming games for the COLE squad. Couple that with NLW and Farley licking their chops to chirp in, it is going to have some folks on the edge of their seats.
To be honest, I now enjoy the COLE folks and the trolls because they missed out on a great season. Actually, a season that might not be repeated for a very long time, at least I hope they are never picked 9th going into BE season under Shaka.
I don't think it has anything to do with COLE to suggest that Marquette matches up better against Butler than SJU. They should beat both regardless.
Sultan
I was talking more in general terms, not specifically regarding of the BET match up.
This has likely been mentioned, sorry if repetitive.
Noticed Ellis practicing with the team yesterday in pregame then in uniform on the bench, without warmups on at tip-off.
I had thought he was redshirted (or medical/injury waivered) this year, guess that's not the case?
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on March 05, 2023, 08:56:22 AM
This has likely been mentioned, sorry if repetitive.
Noticed Ellis practicing with the team yesterday in pregame then in uniform on the bench, without warmups on at tip-off.
I had thought he was redshirted (or medical/injury waivered) this year, guess that's not the case?
He was/is redshirted. Warming up in uniform doesn't burn the redshirt.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 05, 2023, 07:22:43 AM
Summed up perfectly. The comments in Go Butler thread about playing them are really stupid and so homer sounding. It's tournament time, beware of everyone because anything can and does happen. And pretending there's no difference between playing St John's or Butler is just deliberately ignoring reality.
MU is going to have to tighten up its interior D. To invite the opportunity to play SJU agin is not homerish it's the realization that if we're gonna win 5-6 games on the NCAAs we have to beat all comers. Let's see if we can fix that leaky sink in 4 days. I don't avoid problems, approach them. No finish line.
65 foot heave.
Crazy ass falling away three in the corner
Banked in 4 point play.
That's 10 points on lower than low percentage shots. Now we're scared of those guys? F*ck that.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 05, 2023, 09:02:17 AM
65 foot heave.
Crazy ass falling away three in the corner
Banked in 4 point play.
That's 10 points on lower than low percentage shots. Now we're scared of those guys? F*ck that.
Yup. We just as likely beat them by 30 as anything. Don't care if it's Butler or them
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 05, 2023, 07:01:48 AM
Agree, that was not a missed call.
OK, enough Scoopers say O-Max touched the basketball on that play to make me now believe I saw it wrong.
MU crushes Butler. SJU at MSG has a punchers chance.
Not fear. Reality.
Quote from: tower912 on March 05, 2023, 09:05:59 AM
MU crushes Butler. SJU at MSG has a punchers chance.
Not fear. Reality.
Butler might be a trap game, though
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 05, 2023, 09:04:37 AM
Yup. We just as likely beat them by 30 as anything. Don't care if it's Butler or them
100% Rico. They can't repeat that again. We can. Not concerned at all.
I really don't think SJU has a punchers chance. They got like four punchers chances yesterday and still lost
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 05, 2023, 09:48:49 AM
I really don't think SJU has a punchers chance. They got like four punchers chances yesterday and still lost
I was looking at Pomeroy's odds charts by minute in the game. Their highest odds of winning was at the 6 minute to go mark at 12%. Even at the end with that ridiculous run it was only 10%.
#COLE
Interesting we have scored exactly 96 on the Johnnies twice.
Quote from: MU82 on March 05, 2023, 09:05:00 AM
OK, enough Scoopers say O-Max touched the basketball on that play to make me now believe I saw it wrong.
He did. It was ridiculous of the ref from half court to run in and stop play when he was the furthest from the action. The ref right on top of the play saw O-Max touch it, as did most of the fans in the Fiserv.
We had an advantage at the time, for a ref to blow his whistle, he better be certain of what he saw.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 05, 2023, 09:02:17 AM
65 foot heave.
Crazy ass falling away three in the corner
Banked in 4 point play.
That's 10 points on lower than low percentage shots. Now we're scared of those guys? F*ck that.
You forgot the fact that St, John's is a bad free throw shooting team and they were making their free throws.
Quote from: The Lens on March 05, 2023, 08:59:13 AM
MU is going to have to tighten up its interior D. To invite the opportunity to play SJU agin is not homerish it's the realization that if we're gonna win 5-6 games on the NCAAs we have to beat all comers. Let's see if we can fix that leaky sink in 4 days. I don't avoid problems, approach them. No finish line.
Agreed. And Joplins interior defense must improve significantly.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 05, 2023, 09:57:57 AM
I was looking at Pomeroy's odds charts by minute in the game. Their highest odds of winning was at the 6 minute to go mark at 12%. Even at the end with that ridiculous run it was only 10%.
#COLE
I did not care if the free throw shooter made the free throw to tie the game. Soriano had fouled out and I figured we would win the overtime. The way the game was going I was afraid he would miss the free throw, and St. John's would get the rebound and win the game in regulation.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 05, 2023, 09:02:17 AM
65 foot heave.
Crazy ass falling away three in the corner
Banked in 4 point play.
That's 10 points on lower than low percentage shots. Now we're scared of those guys? F*ck that.
This exactly! And bad refs, they hit more FTs than usual, and shot better from 3 than usual, and Marq did take its foot off the gas up 16.
Quote from: wisblue on March 05, 2023, 07:22:15 AM
I don't think that last foul call was a shooting foul.
Wasn't SJ in the double bonus?
In one of the PBP recaps I saw it said "shooting foul". That's all I went off of