Conference tournaments got underway tonight with a couple of first round games. 5 days from now we will know the first auto bid. Afternoon basketball starts Thursday.
Locked in a couple of tournament futures and ready to go!
ASun 1 seed Kennesaw almost went down in the quarterfinals. UWM gets Wright State in their first game.
SE Missouri State clinched their first NCAA tournament berth in 20+ years.
Wardle and Bradley play for a spot tomorrow.
Is that the team that held the badgers to 32 points in the tournament about 20 years ago or something along those lines z
Quote from: BM1090 on March 04, 2023, 09:41:46 PM
SE Missouri State clinched their first NCAA tournament berth in 20+ years.
Wardle and Bradley play for a spot tomorrow.
One foot on the line or Tenn Tech would have gone for first time since the 60s. Heckuva finish in regulation.
SEMO lead by 7 late. TTech with 8 straight to lead with seconds left. SEMO takes the lead by 3 free throws. Tech hits the game winning 3! Wait, foot on the line. SEMO won in overtime.
I saw SEMO in person the Monday after Thanksgiving. Pretty cool for the Redhawks.
Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 04, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Is that the team that held the badgers to 32 points in the tournament about 20 years ago or something along those lines z
That was SW Missouri St., now Missouri St in '99
I'll be looking for the conferences with the potential 14 seeds.
Quote from: wisblue on March 04, 2023, 10:27:32 PM
I'll be looking for the conferences with the potential 14 seeds.
You should email Shaka with your analysis.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35666826/men-college-basketball-2023-champ-week-brackets-schedules-tickets-punched
Brackets and dates if the tourneys.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 04, 2023, 10:23:39 PM
That was SW Missouri St., now Missouri St in '99
Shout out pre-scandal Steve Alford
Quote from: JWags85 on March 05, 2023, 12:26:08 AM
Shout out pre-scandal Steve Alford
Good memory, forgot that was his team.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 04, 2023, 09:41:46 PM
SE Missouri State clinched their first NCAA tournament berth in 20+ years.
Wardle and Bradley play for a spot tomorrow.
Somebody let Uncle Rita know about Wardle and Bradley. He has been dissing Wardle for a long time.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 05, 2023, 11:18:06 AM
Somebody let Uncle Rita know about Wardle and Bradley. He has been dissing Wardle for a long time.
I haven't been dissing Wardle. I've been dissing morons that wanted him as Marquette coach
Would love to see the Campbell Fighting Camels win today due to nickname alone
Quote from: BM1090 on March 05, 2023, 12:19:34 PM
Would love to see the Campbell Fighting Camels win today due to nickname alone
Don't slander drew pember. The ncaa tournament needs him
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 05, 2023, 12:01:57 PM
I haven't been dissing Wardle. I've been dissing morons that wanted him as Marquette coach
Bradley not starting out well in the final. Down 21-7 at 10 minute mark.
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 05, 2023, 01:44:22 PM
Bradley not starting out well in the final. Down 21-7 at 10 minute mark.
Wardle's not helping his cause to be the next Marquette coach.
Golly. This game is Fugly.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 05, 2023, 12:19:34 PM
Would love to see the Campbell Fighting Camels win today due to nickname alone
Jinxed them!
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 05, 2023, 01:56:43 PM
Jinxed them!
Asheville is a pretty good team. Probably a 15-max depending on how things shake out. Wouldn't be surprised if they make someone very uncomfortable in two weeks
Late nighters should try and find some Big West and WAC tourney action. Those leagues look like they could have some fun games
Blew a 14 pt lead, was Wojo coaching Campbell?
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 05, 2023, 02:02:29 PM
Blew a 14 pt lead, was Wojo coaching Campbell?
Maybe Tom Izzo? He blew a 10-point lead last Saturday in a minute span
Quote from: fjm on March 05, 2023, 01:52:02 PM
Golly. This game is Fugly.
21 points in the first half. Wardle really would be a good fit in Madison whenever Gard is shown the gate.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 05, 2023, 01:59:49 PM
Asheville is a pretty good team. Probably a 15-max depending on how things shake out. Wouldn't be surprised if they make someone very uncomfortable in two weeks
Coached by a former Shaka assistant in Mike Morrell. Leading scorer Drew Pember could be a matchup nightmare and give a top seed a lot of trouble. Honestly, I think they could beat Purdue by using the mobile big to pull Edey away from the basket.
I certainly wouldn't want to face them in round 1.
Anyone else's SBC bracket blow up because of Texas State?
(I should know...... the SBC Tourney is a 'crap-shoot')
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 05, 2023, 02:07:17 PM
Anyone else's SBC bracket blow up because of Texas State?
(I should know...... the SBC Tourney is a 'crap-shoot')
Sun Belt will not want Texas State to win. The other 3 could win a game in two weeks
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 05, 2023, 02:14:43 PM
Sun Belt will not want Texas State to win. The other 3 could win a game in two weeks
The officiating in Pensacola, Fla. will be suspect going forward. ;D
How long until Wardle petitions the MVC to go to Regular Season champ gets the bid? Feels like he has had a few years where he wins the conference and then can't win the tournament.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 05, 2023, 02:31:23 PM
How long until Wardle petitions the MVC to go to Regular Season champ gets the bid? Feels like he has had a few years where he wins the conference and then can't win the tournament.
That's what happened at Green Bay as well
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 05, 2023, 02:31:23 PM
How long until Wardle petitions the MVC to go to Regular Season champ gets the bid? Feels like he has had a few years where he wins the conference and then can't win the tournament.
This was his first regular season title at Bradley.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 05, 2023, 02:31:23 PM
How long until Wardle petitions the MVC to go to Regular Season champ gets the bid? Feels like he has had a few years where he wins the conference and then can't win the tournament.
Guess he's not quite ready to takeover for Shaka...
I think it would be smart for schools to start looking at DeVries.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 05, 2023, 02:36:02 PM
This was his first regular season title at Bradley.
I was mostly factoring in his time at UWGB. Which looks like it only happened once. I thought it happened a few times.
Also, he's won back to back conference tournaments at Bradley a few years ago.
So all in all, not a good comment on my part.
Drake annihilates Bradley in a game that was never close
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 05, 2023, 03:13:51 PM
Drake annihilates Bradley in a game that was never close
Wardle lost to an effen Canadian rapper.
Quote from: MU82 on March 05, 2023, 03:18:46 PM
Wardle lost to an effen Canadian rapper.
It's actually a school in iowa
Quote from: panda on March 05, 2023, 03:21:47 PM
It's actually a school in iowa
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Quote from: MU82 on March 05, 2023, 03:31:44 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_Bulldogs_men's_basketball
Quote from: panda on March 05, 2023, 03:34:17 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_Bulldogs_men's_basketball
Anyone can fake a webpage.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 05, 2023, 03:34:58 PM
Anyone can fake a webpage.
But only the few and the proud can differentiate two members of the same basketball team.
Quote from: panda on March 05, 2023, 03:36:56 PM
But only the few and the proud can differentiate two members of the same basketball team.
Or be obsessed with another poster.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 05, 2023, 03:40:50 PM
Or be obsessed with another poster.
Just very strange a badger fan spends so much time posting on a Marquette board
Kennesaw State beats Liberty 67-66 to win the ASun. First bid in their history.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 05, 2023, 04:13:23 PM
Kennesaw State beats Liberty 67-66 to win the ASun. First bid in their history.
Extra fun because Liberty lost in heartbreaking fashion.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 05, 2023, 04:20:08 PM
Extra fun because Liberty lost in heartbreaking fashion.
A legit foul too.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 05, 2023, 04:20:08 PM
Extra fun because Liberty lost in heartbreaking fashion.
Taking a cue from their leader, they will be watching the action.
Bravo
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1632488571335581697?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A
This is the type of ingenuity that should merit applause
Does that have something to do with the annoying basketball fan who does something in music?
Quote from: panda on March 05, 2023, 03:36:56 PM
But only the few and the proud can differentiate two members of the same basketball team.
🤣🤣🤣
panda
Thanks for the laugh.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 05, 2023, 04:20:08 PM
Extra fun because Liberty lost in heartbreaking fashion.
Thoughts.
Just to be clear; Drake is named after a hip-hop star and Marquette University is in Michigan. Correct?
Quote from: Goose on March 05, 2023, 07:15:26 PM
panda
Thanks for the laugh.
Getting the goose chuckle is a higher honor than knowing ball. Thanks for making me weekend
Two conference tournament finals tonight, both involving teams projected as possible 14 seeds. In other words, possible first round NCAA opponents for a 3 seed.
Furman in the Southern Conference and Louisiana (fka Southwest Louisiana and Louisiana-Lafayette) in the Sun Belt. Both games at 6 PM CST.
Also, the West Coast semis featuring Gonzaga and St. Mary's will tell us if a bid stealer is still a possibility.
UWM has its semifinal against Cleveland State on ESPN2 at 8:30.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 05, 2023, 04:13:23 PM
Kennesaw State beats Liberty 67-66 to win the ASun. First bid in their history.
Congrats to the fighting mountain landis's
Quote from: wisblue on March 06, 2023, 03:44:57 PM
Two conference tournament finals tonight, both involving teams projected as possible 14 seeds. In other words, possible first round NCAA opponents for a 3 seed.
Furman in the Southern Conference and Louisiana (fka Southwest Louisiana and Louisiana-Lafayette) in the Sun Belt. Both games at 6 PM CST.
At risk of sounding COLE, UL-Lafayette is a team I'd rather not see in the first round. They are a top 25 offensive rebounding team. 4/6 of our losses are to top 25 offensive rebounding teams. Obviously I'd still expect a dominant victory, just other teams I'd rather matchup with. Really want this monkey off the back
I pay attention to the Ivy League and, now that my Disney Bundle includes ESPN+, I get to see a number of Ivy games on TV.
Yale is the favorite in this weekend's 4 team Ivy tournament, and they are also projected as a14 seed. IMHO Yale, or any of the other Ivy contenders, would be a favorable matchup for MU.
The Ivies have produced some pretty good teams in recent years, like the Cornell team that pounded Wisconsin in a second round game, the Harvard teams that pulled at least one and maybe two first round upsets, and the Princeton team that took Notre Dame to a last shot. But, I don't think this year's teams meet that standard and will have a tough time against a team with better athletic talent that plays a disciplined style. They may not have the same trouble Yale had against Edey at the FF last year, but I would be surprised if they can stay with any of this year's 3 seeds.
panda
Keep up the good work. How about those Marquette Warriors?
Quote from: wisblue on March 06, 2023, 04:28:35 PM
Also, the West Coast semis featuring Gonzaga and St. Mary's will tell us if a bid stealer is still a possibility.
UWM has its semifinal against Cleveland State on ESPN2 at 8:30.
Did anyone else notice the ridiculous bracket the WCC came up with? They're basically saying they want either St Mary's or Gonzaga to win it.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 06, 2023, 06:41:06 PM
Did anyone else notice the ridiculous bracket the WCC came up with? They're basically saying they want either St Mary's or Gonzaga to win it.
Other conferences have done similar things in the past. I don't know if that's still the case.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 06, 2023, 06:41:06 PM
Did anyone else notice the ridiculous bracket the WCC came up with? They're basically saying they want either St Mary's or Gonzaga to win it.
This has been the WCC bracket for years.
Honestly more of the lower tier conferences should do this. It would help their top teams make the Big Dance, increasing their chances for upset and those sweet sweet tourney credit $$$$$$.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 06, 2023, 06:41:06 PM
Did anyone else notice the ridiculous bracket the WCC came up with? They're basically saying they want either St Mary's or Gonzaga to win it.
Ha! I just looked it up and it is ridiculous. Maybe Gonzaga will never leave the WCC with that setup.
BYU finishes top 5 and has to win 4 games in a 10 team conference. Just preposterous
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 06, 2023, 06:55:42 PM
This has been the WCC bracket for years.
Honestly more of the lower tier conferences should do this. It would help their top teams make the Big Dance, increasing their chances for upset and those sweet sweet tourney credit $$$$$$.
No, I think in the past, they only gave byes to the top 4 teams.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2023, 05:33:55 PM
panda
Keep up the good work. How about those Marquette Warriors?
Absolutely love it. I'll be the first to admit the Wojo years broke me as a fan. I couldn't stand watching that brand of basketball absent of any sort of mental/physical toughness and such a low team basketball IQ. To compound it, hearing fans repeat over and over to "trust the process" crushed me. The depths our program fell to and many accepting it killed me.
The past two seasons have been nothing short of incredible. What Shaka has done with his roster construction and player development is second to none. Kolek wasn't even a point guard coming here and now he's one of the best in the country. It speaks the system he's created and how much buy in each player on the roster puts forth.
Bright days ahead goose ! Let's just win a few more games.
panda
I agree with your post completely. I felt badly being a wet blanket in the Wojo era, but I believed that MU basketball was better than MU was selling. There is no doubt some folks accepted the product that was being provided and it frustrated the hell out of me.
I agree on the past two years being incredible. It has brought back excitement and the understanding of MU basketball can look like.
Let's keep this season going and enjoy every moment of it. I have not enjoyed a season like this one on my adult life.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2023, 07:59:24 PM
panda
I agree with your post completely. I felt badly being a wet blanket in the Wojo era, but I believed that MU basketball was better than MU was selling. There is no doubt some folks accepted the product that was being provided and it frustrated the hell out of me.
I agree on the past two years being incredible. It has brought back excitement and the understanding of MU basketball can look like.
Let's keep this season going and enjoy every moment of it. I have not enjoyed a season like this one on my adult life.
Agree - this has the feeling of a special season.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2023, 07:59:24 PM
panda
I agree with your post completely. I felt badly being a wet blanket in the Wojo era, but I believed that MU basketball was better than MU was selling. There is no doubt some folks accepted the product that was being provided and it frustrated the hell out of me.
I agree on the past two years being incredible. It has brought back excitement and the understanding of MU basketball can look like.
Let's keep this season going and enjoy every moment of it. I have not enjoyed a season like this one on my adult life.
It wasn't hard to be a wet blanket in the previous era as every year became wash, rinse, repeat. We saw signs last year of what was to become and this year has truly been a blast.
NIT dance card getting filled up. Hofstra and Youngstown State heading there after losing in their conference semi-finals.
Furman dancing for the first time since 1980. Louisiana for the first time since 2014.
Watching ESPN2 prior to UWM game - Crean and Wojo, Crean needs to turn down the tanning bed knob a bit, Wojo could use a tanning bed installed at his house.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 06, 2023, 08:18:22 PM
NIT dance card getting filled up. Hofstra and Youngstown State heading there after losing in their conference semi-finals.
Furman dancing for the first time since 1980. Louisiana for the first time since 2014.
Quite a few fun games so far tonight. Hope Milwaukee wins
Panthers look like UWGB!
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 06, 2023, 08:26:29 PM
Watching ESPN2 prior to UWM game - Crean and Wojo, Crean needs to turn down the tanning bed knob a bit, Wojo could use a tanning bed installed at his house.
Any MU mentions?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 06, 2023, 09:55:07 PM
Any MU mentions?
None yet. Waiting for the "Wojo, how does Shaka have wild success in year 2 while you sucked for 7 years?"
While the announcers talk about Cleveland State maybe easing up to be ready for tomorrow's final their 28 point lead is down to 10.
Quote from: wisblue on March 06, 2023, 10:47:41 PM
While the announcers talk about Cleveland State maybe easing up to be ready for tomorrow's final their 28 point lead is down to 10.
Any potential 14 seed sighting?
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 06, 2023, 11:50:35 PM
Any potential 14 seed sighting?
Think 15 is where the winner of that game ends up
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 06, 2023, 10:27:34 PM
None yet. Waiting for the "Wojo, how does Shaka have wild success in year 2 while you sucked for 7 years?"
Dammit, Point, I had the misfortune to read that post when I was taking a slug of coffee.
ESPN has MU/XU III as one of the rematches they'd like to see (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35785459/memphis-houston-arizona-ucla-other-men-college-basketball-rematches-want-2023-champ-week) during championship week. They have this to say about Shaka: "Shaka Smart led Marquette to the Big East regular-season title after losing multiple starters from a year ago, and has positioned himself to win every national coach of the year honor."
Ultimately, they conclude that even with Freemantle out, "Marquette would still have its work cut out for it." It pisses me off that nobody seems to respect this sixth-ranked team (and likely three seed).
They played 2 great games. Who doesn't like a tie breaker?
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 07, 2023, 06:56:41 AM
ESPN has MU/XU III as one of the rematches they'd like to see (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35785459/memphis-houston-arizona-ucla-other-men-college-basketball-rematches-want-2023-champ-week) during championship week. They have this to say about Shaka: "Shaka Smart led Marquette to the Big East regular-season title after losing multiple starters from a year ago, and has positioned himself to win every national coach of the year honor."
Ultimately, they conclude that even with Freemantle out, "Marquette would still have its work cut out for it." It pisses me off that nobody seems to respect this sixth-ranked team (and likely three seed).
I hope the national media keeps it up - the team plays better with a chip on its shoulder.
Quote from: tower912 on March 07, 2023, 07:11:07 AM
They played 2 great games. Who doesn't like a tie breaker?
Absolutely. I would love to see MU v. XU in the BET Finals.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 07, 2023, 06:56:41 AM
ESPN has MU/XU III as one of the rematches they'd like to see (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35785459/memphis-houston-arizona-ucla-other-men-college-basketball-rematches-want-2023-champ-week) during championship week. They have this to say about Shaka: "Shaka Smart led Marquette to the Big East regular-season title after losing multiple starters from a year ago, and has positioned himself to win every national coach of the year honor."
Ultimately, they conclude that even with Freemantle out, "Marquette would still have its work cut out for it." It pisses me off that nobody seems to respect this sixth-ranked team (and likely three seed).
How is that lack of respect?
The two games between the teams, including the one at FF with Freemantle out, both went down to the wire. Marquette would have its work cut out, as would Xavier.
Just the fact that they're taking about MU in the final, and not UConn, seems to show a lot of respect.
We very nearly lost to them on our own floor when they didn't have Freemantle, I certainly don't think it's a slight to say that we would have our work cut out for us facing them on a neutral court. If we make it to Saturday, I think we would have our work cut out for us no matter who we face.
Quote from: wisblue on March 07, 2023, 07:19:31 AM
How is that lack of respect?
The two games between the teams, including the one at FF with Freemantle out, both went down to the wire. Marquette would have its work cut out, as would Xavier.
Just the fact that they're taking about MU in the final, and not UConn, seems to show a lot of respect.
It was 100% sarcasm. I'm poking fun at people who think MU doesn't get any respect. We've got a coach that ESPN says is in position "to win every coach of the year honor." We're ranked No. 6 in the country. We're looking at a three-seed - at worst. We've got a player who's likely going to win Big East POY and is being mentioned in the national POY conversation (and a Cousy Award finalist). We've got a player who is a unanimous BE 1st Team selection and two on the 2nd Team. We've got the Big East 6th Man of the Year. We've got a player getting national attention as a top "glue guy."
And yet people
still complain that we get no respect. I just found the single thing in an otherwise glowing article that could conceivably be perceived as a slight -- and even that was a
stretch -- and I ran with it. I kind of thought my inclusion of the quote about Shaka and my reference to our rank and seed would give away the sarcasm. Apparently not.
Edited to add: I feel like the fact that nobody seemed to recognize the sarcasm without my using teal further supports the point I was trying to make. The schtick was believable because so many people really do interpret even positive coverage as perceived slights.
Everyone thinks its a forgone conclusion that Uconn will be Marquettes 2nd round matchup. Im hopeful that Providence can somehow get out of the downward spiral and beat Uconn.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 07, 2023, 07:28:37 AM
It was 100% sarcasm. I'm poking fun at people who think MU doesn't get any respect. We've got a coach that ESPN says is in position "to win every coach of the year honor." We're ranked No. 6 in the country. We're looking at a three-seed - at worst. We've got a player who's likely going to win Big East POY and is being mentioned in the national POY conversation (and a Cousy Award finalist). We've got a player who is a unanimous BE 1st Team selection and two on the 2nd Team. We've got the Big East 6th Man of the Year. We've got a player getting national attention as a top "glue guy."
And yet people still complain that we get no respect. I just found the single thing in an otherwise glowing article that could conceivably be perceived as a slight -- and even that was a stretch -- and I ran with it. I kind of thought my inclusion of the quote about Shaka and my reference to our rank and seed would give away the sarcasm. Apparently not.
Got it. It definitely wasn't obvious to me simply because there are so many posters who seem to take anything short of a declaration that MU should roll through the BET and on to the Final Four as pessimism or a slight.
StillaWarrior
I agree. This team and Shaka have received a ton of national attention. I was laughing with my son yesterday saying I think I can answer every question in Shaka talk or any player talk at this point. He reminds me of the daily pressers during the early stages of the pandemic. At that time, I think I could have freed up plenty of time for Cuomo, and others, and held the pressers for them.
Once you become accustomed to their individual brand of coach speak, you can do that with most coaches. In my head, I would play Buzz-word bingo during his pressers. I have started to predict Shaka's answers. All good fun.
Some funny stuff in the Seton Hall Big East Tourney Preview,
Best seat in the house: Right behind the DePaul bench. You can bring 20 of your closest friends.
Worst seat in the house: Anywhere near UConn fans.
Least likely to get a T: Georgetown's Patrick Ewing will get riled up if his paycheck doesn't clear; that's about it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-east-tournament-2023-preview-130309316.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-east-tournament-2023-preview-130309316.html)
Question:
If someone has their work "cut out" for them, shouldn't it be easier to do, since the cutting is already done?
Listen to the ACC guy on the radio this morning previewing the ACC tournament. In a word, 'Sad'.
I felt bad for the guy, he sounded like he was talking about the A-10 with all the "this conference is better than the records and rankings show"; all while admitting 5 teams in the ACC are lower than 175 in the NET. Also, he was appalled that Clemson was even considered a bubble team.
Like I said, sad.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 07, 2023, 09:03:32 AM
Listen to the ACC guy on the radio this morning previewing the ACC tournament. In a word, 'Sad'.
I felt bad for the guy, he sounded like he was talking about the A-10 with all the "this conference is better than the records and rankings show"; all while admitting 5 teams in the ACC are lower than 175 in the NET. Also, he was appalled that Clemson was even considered a bubble team.
Like I said, sad.
Is it the same moron calling GT/FSU? I get it you have to talk about something during this awful game and have to hype your league.
But whoever Cory Alexander is should probably lose his job.
Highlights
"give me the ACC 10 best teams and ill go toe to toe with the Big 12 anyday". Even with the ACC getting to boot their 5 worst, thats insanely idiotic.
"THese two teams(FSU and GT) show how tough the Acc is. Contrasting styles is what this league is about. FSU switches everything on D. GT plays a zone that you dont even know what they are going to do(whatever this means). This is why this team is so tough. Acc teams know them but other teams dont"
Didnt FSU start like 0-7 in non con?
Fire him into the sun.
Does Georgia Tech even know what they are running on defense half the time?
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 06, 2023, 04:33:19 PM
At risk of sounding COLE, UL-Lafayette is a team I'd rather not see in the first round. They are a top 25 offensive rebounding team. 4/6 of our losses are to top 25 offensive rebounding teams. Obviously I'd still expect a dominant victory, just other teams I'd rather matchup with. Really want this monkey off the back
In looking at my current 14 line, none of the 14s (Kennesaw State, Vermont, Furman, Louisiana) would be prevented from playing the current 3s (Marquette, K-State, Gonzaga, Tennessee).
Something else that stood out, of those 14s, Vermont is the worst offensive rebounding team at #358, but are #3 in defensive rebounding. Looks like they are aggressive at team rebounding on the defensive end because they aren't a very big team, but the offensive glass simply isn't something that is part of their strategy.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 07, 2023, 03:22:36 PM
In looking at my current 14 line, none of the 14s (Kennesaw State, Vermont, Furman, Louisiana) would be prevented from playing the current 3s (Marquette, K-State, Gonzaga, Tennessee).
Something else that stood out, of those 14s, Vermont is the worst offensive rebounding team at #358, but are #3 in defensive rebounding. Looks like they are aggressive at team rebounding on the defensive end because they aren't a very big team, but the offensive glass simply isn't something that is part of their strategy.
Then the obvious offense strategy is to not miss shots.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 07, 2023, 03:22:36 PM
In looking at my current 14 line, none of the 14s (Kennesaw State, Vermont, Furman, Louisiana) would be prevented from playing the current 3s (Marquette, K-State, Gonzaga, Tennessee).
Something else that stood out, of those 14s, Vermont is the worst offensive rebounding team at #358, but are #3 in defensive rebounding. Looks like they are aggressive at team rebounding on the defensive end because they aren't a very big team, but the offensive glass simply isn't something that is part of their strategy.
Don't mean to put you on the spot, and I'm sure you've got a gajillion numbers in your head right now, but if you had to rank those 4 from the most preferred to least preferred in your opinion how would you rank them?
Rinse and repeat for the 6 seeds, or anyone in the 5-7 seed range if you're feeling froggy.
Quote from: DoctorV on March 07, 2023, 06:35:09 PM
Don't mean to put you on the spot, and I'm sure you've got a gajillion numbers in your head right now, but if you had to rank those 4 from the most preferred to least preferred in your opinion how would you rank them?
Rinse and repeat for the 6 seeds, or anyone in the 5-7 seed range if you're feeling froggy.
If I recall correctly brew usually does a nightmares article.
Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 07, 2023, 07:34:05 AM
Everyone thinks its a forgone conclusion that Uconn will be Marquettes 2nd round matchup. Im hopeful that Providence can somehow get out of the downward spiral and beat Uconn.
We've outplayed those two three out of four meetings. We'll play whichever wins.
These Horizon League games are wildly out of control.
Charleston testing the no team winning 30 games has ever missed the tournament rule
I would love if Charleston loses and still somehow gets into the NCAA as an at-large because it would be some sweet sweet bid thievery making our Badger friends sweat a little more.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 07, 2023, 03:31:15 PM
Then the obvious offense strategy is to not miss shots.
Nope, score more points. Usually works.
Former MU assistant Darrin Horn gets Northern Kentucky into the tournament.
Charleston wins
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 07, 2023, 03:31:15 PM
Then the obvious offense strategy is to not miss shots.
Now that is some damn good coaching.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 07, 2023, 02:55:32 PM
Is it the same moron calling GT/FSU? I get it you have to talk about something during this awful game and have to hype your league.
But whoever Cory Alexander is should probably lose his job.
Highlights
"give me the ACC 10 best teams and ill go toe to toe with the Big 12 anyday". Even with the ACC getting to boot their 5 worst, thats insanely idiotic.
"THese two teams(FSU and GT) show how tough the Acc is. Contrasting styles is what this league is about. FSU switches everything on D. GT plays a zone that you dont even know what they are going to do(whatever this means). This is why this team is so tough. Acc teams know them but other teams dont"
Didnt FSU start like 0-7 in non con?
Fire him into the sun.
Yep, same guy. It is sad but approaching very funny stuff.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 07, 2023, 03:22:36 PM
In looking at my current 14 line, none of the 14s (Kennesaw State, Vermont, Furman, Louisiana) would be prevented from playing the current 3s (Marquette, K-State, Gonzaga, Tennessee).
Something else that stood out, of those 14s, Vermont is the worst offensive rebounding team at #358, but are #3 in defensive rebounding. Looks like they are aggressive at team rebounding on the defensive end because they aren't a very big team, but the offensive glass simply isn't something that is part of their strategy.
Since my younger daughter is a UVM student I've watched some games. This years team is not as good as they usually are. They had a tough time OOC this season and have rolled everyone in conference.
Now im certainly not saying a win would be innevietable.
But if St Marys ended up getting a 6 instead of a 5 and were in our region I wouldnt hate it.
Obviously Gonzaga is supremely talent but Marys looks awful. And last night vs Byu when they blew that huge lead they couldnt handle pressure at all(which was what gave me the more favorable thought for us).
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 07, 2023, 09:38:12 PM
Now im certainly not saying a win would be innevietable.
But if St Marys ended up getting a 6 instead of a 5 and were in our region I wouldnt hate it.
Obviously Gonzaga is supremely talent but Marys looks awful. And last night vs Byu when they blew that huge lead they couldnt handle pressure at all(which was what gave me the more favorable thought for us).
Yeah I'd definitely take my chances with them. And I'd take my chances with Gonzaga in an Elite Eight.
Glow and I were giving some thought to going to the Zags - St. Mary's game.
Glad we didn't. What a boring game.
There's an article on ESPN that lists us as one of 8 teams with a chance to whole thing - wow!!!
In the Big Sky, 9-seed Northern Arizona, who finished the year 11-22 (5-13), will be playing in the championship game tonight against second seeded Montana State.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 08, 2023, 06:37:37 AM
There's an article on ESPN that lists us as one of 8 teams with a chance to whole thing - wow!!!
Can't believe they didn't say we were the only team that could win it. So much disrespect.
Quote from: MU82 on March 08, 2023, 12:34:01 PM
Can't believe they didn't say we were the only team that could win it. So much disrespect.
How dare they include another Big East team on the list! Don't they know we won the regular season title?!?!?!?!
https://twitter.com/NoEscalators/status/1633546163956641792?s=20
Im guessing Mintz and Edwards will be hot portal names soon.
Letting Girard have that last possession was text book Jimmy B is past his time.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 07, 2023, 08:16:47 PM
Former MU assistant Darrin Horn gets Northern Kentucky into the tournament.
can he challenge Wardle for the Shaka-successor throne ?
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 08, 2023, 01:23:07 PM
https://twitter.com/NoEscalators/status/1633546163956641792?s=20
This is my personal favorite Tweet from that account.
https://twitter.com/NoEscalators/status/1610456089245650945?t=376gAuY40m2JbOzsBlh8cw&s=19
Greg doing his best to make sure Pitt avoids a potentially crippling upset.
4/4 from deep
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 08, 2023, 03:23:51 PM
Greg doing his best to make sure Pitt avoids a potentially crippling upset.
4/4 from deep
Heckuva player
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 08, 2023, 03:28:46 PM
Heckuva player
He had struggled the last couple of games, so it was great to see him bounce back.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 08, 2023, 01:35:12 PM
Im guessing Mintz and Edwards will be hot portal names soon.
Letting Girard have that last possession was text book Jimmy B is past his time.
Mintz might turn pro. He's getting some top 40 buzz.
I'm surprised to see that Ohio State is a 1.5 point favorite over Wisconsin.
I might have thought that a team on the bubble would be favored over one that isn't anywhere near it.
Quote from: wisblue on March 08, 2023, 04:41:59 PM
I'm surprised to see that Ohio State is a 1.5 point favorite over Wisconsin.
I might have thought that a team on the bubble would be favored over one that isn't anywhere near it.
OSU been playing pretty well down the stretch with a couple solid wins and close losses. And has the metrics. So not real surprised they have the slight edge in a toss up game.
It's not looking like a tossup game so far.
Badgers trailing 36-18 at the half.
I guess they don't want to wear themselves out as they prepare for their NCAA appearance. ;D
Madison almost averaged a point per minute in the first half.
Gard's offense is really getting it done.
Absolutely getting dusted!!
I thought they were going to make it, but I think they are done after this one. Taking another somewhat bad loss and destroying their metrics in the process.
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Anybody Tweeting at Rob Rieschel asking him if he's still calling the Badgers win more NCAA Tournament games than Marquette like he was a week ago?
Dude was 1250's Packers insider. Meanwhile he's covering WIAA Girl's Basketball. About as much of a Packers insider as Gary Woelful is a Bucks insider.
Quote from: withoutbias on March 08, 2023, 07:09:13 PM
Anybody Tweeting at Rob Rieschel asking him if he's still calling the Badgers win more NCAA Tournament games than Marquette like he was a week ago?
Dude was 1250's Packers insider. Meanwhile he's covering WIAA Girl's Basketball. About as much of a Packers insider as Gary Woelful is a Bucks insider.
Game ain't over yet.
Gard should be fired. I'd be surprised if he isn't. His recruiting sucks. Bo could at least find guys like Alando Tucker, Harris, and that tall goofy guy named Frank something.
Marquette losing at home to this Division II-caliber Badgers team is easily their most bewildering result of the season.
I turned this game on about 7 minutes ago in real time. I just saw the first points scored since I turned it on.
Quote from: withoutbias on March 08, 2023, 07:09:13 PM
Anybody Tweeting at Rob Rieschel asking him if he's still calling the Badgers win more NCAA Tournament games than Marquette like he was a week ago?
Dude was 1250's Packers insider. Meanwhile he's covering WIAA Girl's Basketball. About as much of a Packers insider as Gary Woelful is a Bucks insider.
Lol I just checked his Twitter. Here is his comment now...pretty typical badger fan:
This @BadgerMBB is just hot garbage. Blow up the roster. Let the AD make it a hat trick of firings!!
Uhhh...guys?
Dear god OSU, please save your choke jobs for another team and finish this out.
This is why there teams are where they are in the big 10
Ohio State imploding. Two garbage teams.
Said it wasn't over. Ohio State sucks
Holtmann is a terrible coach. Only became a hot name because he won with Stevens' players.
The Badgers might still pull this,out.
OSU has scored 2 points in 10 minutes and now they're missing FTs and the Badgers are draining threes
Buckeyes are showing why they finished in 13th place.
This is the funniest way they're going to go down. Their fans will cry they deserve to be in because they made a big comeback against OSU.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 08, 2023, 07:29:52 PM
This is the funniest way they're going to go down. Their fans will cry they deserve to be in because they made a big comeback against OSU.
My goodness, these are two bad teams.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 08, 2023, 07:40:27 PM
My goodness, these are two bad teams.
My thoughts exactly.
Ugly
The badgers did not lose the game, they just ran out of time...
Storyline by Potrykus...
Where's NLW to explain how Bucky got hosed tonite? 👀
Fitting end to the badger season.
Plus the agony of watching their name not called on selection Sunday.
That's an NIT team.
What happened in the Rodent game? I'm traveling today and can't seem to get any of the sports websites. Ty.
Scoopers, we've earned our free Purgatory pass after watching that one.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 08, 2023, 07:47:48 PM
What happened in the Rodent game? I'm traveling today and can't seem to get any of the sports websites. Ty.
Lifeless first 35 minutes, down 27, had a chance to cut it 2 with less than 2 mins to go, lost by 8.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 08, 2023, 07:47:48 PM
What happened in the Rodent game? I'm traveling today and can't seem to get any of the sports websites. Ty.
OSU led 47-20 and then barely held on. Went 10 minutes without scoring and missed a bunch of FTs and the lead got down to 4.
Buckeyes barely held on for the win.
That valiant comeback deserves an NCAA bid.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 08, 2023, 07:49:54 PM
Lifeless first 35 minutes, down 27, had a chance to cut it 2 with less than 2 mins to go, lost by 8.
LOL!!!!!! Ty.
Just so we're all in agreement there is now a 0.00000000 chance the weasel/rodents sniff the NCAA tournament. Correct??? :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 08, 2023, 07:56:08 PM
Just so we're all in agreement there is now a 0.00000000 chance the weasel/rodents sniff the NCAA tournament. Correct??? :)
If they do, the entire committee needs to be fired immediately.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 08, 2023, 07:56:08 PM
Just so we're all in agreement there is now a 0.00000000 chance the weasel/rodents sniff the NCAA tournament. Correct??? :)
It's not 0%... but probably closer to 0% than 1%
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 08, 2023, 08:03:07 PM
It's not 0%... but probably closer to 0% than 1%
So we should be able to rest easy fairly easily? What happened to NLW?
R
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 08, 2023, 08:07:49 PM
So we should be able to rest easy fairly easy? What happened to NLW?
They may have been hanging on to the last spot before this game but no way no one passes them AND there's no bid stealers. And that's if they were even in the field before this game
Wait a minute.....I was just told Ohio St. did not have a single field goal in the last 11+ minutes? And they still won? Is this accurate? Is this unprecedented? Ty.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 08, 2023, 07:56:08 PM
Just so we're all in agreement there is now a 0.00000000 chance the weasel/rodents sniff the NCAA tournament. Correct??? :)
I heard the Badgers were pulling an Al and sending their team to the NIT because they didn't like the seeding/location.
Quote from: BallBoy on March 08, 2023, 08:19:29 PM
I heard the Badgers were pulling an Al and sending their team to the NIT because they didn't like the seeding/location.
Are they a lock for the NIT? :)
Is Gard toast?
Essegian imo should transfer either way. :)
Gonna be nice to be the only ticket in town for the local media to cover from here on out.
If UW gets an NIT invite they're going to get their doors blown off. No way can they compete with that level of competition.
Some Gard slurpers on Twitter using the old "who you gonna replace him with" line on angry fans who are calling for his head. I don't think McIntosh will fire him this year, but his clock has started ticking.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 08, 2023, 08:24:44 PM
Is Gard toast?
Essegian imo should transfer either way. :)
I would slap a blue or gold jersey on Essegian in a heartbeat, if he was so inclined.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 08, 2023, 08:42:31 PM
I would slap a blue or gold jersey on Essegian in a heartbeat, if he was so inclined.
I agree with this analysis. Essegian is their best offensive player by a mile and has a ton of upside. He'd have many suitors if he entered the portal.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 08, 2023, 08:41:51 PM
Some Gard slurpers on Twitter using the old "who you gonna replace him with" line on angry fans who are calling for his head. I don't think McIntosh will fire him this year, but his clock has started ticking.
It would be an attractive job. They'll pay well. Also, they'll be the guy after the guy who replaced Bo Ryan.
People have thrown around Nate Oats (That ship has sailed for the time being) and TJO because they're local. Not sure TJO is the right fit there.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 08, 2023, 08:42:31 PM
I would slap a blue or gold jersey on Essegian in a heartbeat, if he was so inclined.
Ditto. I would imagine he's inordinately frustrated dtd. I almost feel for the kid being asked to throw the ball to Crowahl or whoever in the post and watch them dribble for 20 seconds..
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 08, 2023, 08:47:22 PM
Ditto. I would imagine he's inordinately frustrated dtd. I almost feel for the kid being asked to throw the ball to Crowahl or whoever in the post and watch them dribble for 20 seconds..
If he leaves, he'll be at Michigan
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 08, 2023, 08:47:04 PM
It would be an attractive job. They'll pay well. Also, they'll be the guy after the guy who replaced Bo Ryan.
People have thrown around Nate Oats (That ship has sailed for the time being) and TJO because they're local. Not sure TJO is the right fit there.
TJO reminds me a lot of Buzz. I'd be very surprised if he's still at Iowa State three years from now. He's the type of guy who'll keep job-hopping until he either hits the jackpot at a blue blood or fizzles out like Buzz did.
Pie in the sky for UW would be if Tony Bennett had a few subpar years at Virginia and wanted to come home.
Gophers looking good. Garcia with 11 and 7 in the first half.
The Great Porter Moser getting annihilated.
Poor nlw.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 08, 2023, 08:54:11 PM
TJO reminds me a lot of Buzz. I'd be very surprised if he's still at Iowa State three years from now. He's the type of guy who'll keep job-hopping until he either hits the jackpot at a blue blood or fizzles out like Buzz did.
Pie in the sky for UW would be if Tony Bennett had a few subpar years at Virginia and wanted to come home.
Buzz isn't quite fizzled just yet
I don't think Gard gets fired now. This year sucked but he's had a pretty good run. By the same token new AD McIntosh has already fired his football coach ( Chryst) and his hockey coach ( Granato) so who knows. If Gard is thinking about a new roof on his house in Madison, he might want to hold off.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 08, 2023, 08:42:31 PM
I would slap a blue or gold jersey on Essegian in a heartbeat, if he was so inclined.
Very good player, but I'm thrilled with Shaka's guys. Kam, Stevie, Chase, Zaide, Tre...that is a lot of talent already.
Essegian would have a ton of options in the portal. Many more suitors than he had in HS.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 08, 2023, 10:34:53 PM
Very good player, but I'm thrilled with Shaka's guys. Kam, Stevie, Chase, Zaide, Tre...that is a lot of talent already.
Essegian would have a ton of options in the portal. Many more suitors than he had in HS.
Agreed. Gone are the days where the team is starved of talent and we are salivating over every decent potential transfer or recruit and where roster space is of zero concern. Regardless of what happens the rest of the year, I'm ready to run it back with the guys we got and have coming in. It's a good place to be.
I sat courtside behind the Colgate bench last year for the Wisconsin Colgate 1st round game at the fiserv. I spoke with the coaches after and they had a fire about them that they would be back with vengeance.
Point being I want absolute no part of Colgate as they were absolutely unconscious from 3. If they are a 14 seed again I'm picking them to upset whoever they play
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 08, 2023, 09:09:57 PM
I don't think Gard gets fired now. This year sucked but he's had a pretty good run. By the same token new AD McIntosh has already fired his football coach ( Chryst) and his hockey coach ( Granato) so who knows. If Gard is thinking about a new roof on his house in Madison, he might want to hold off.
I think Gard is toast. If Mac brings him back next year, Gard is essentially a lame duck coach.
Mac knows his ceiling. No Sweet 16's since Bo's players. Probably a 2nd missed tourney in the last 6 years. Two tourney wins in the last 6 years, including only one win combined from the 3 and 5 seed teams Gard had.
Mac won't settle for being plucky overachievers that occasionally make the 2nd round. He has much higher aspirations than that.
Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 08, 2023, 10:47:09 PM
I sat courtside behind the Colgate bench last year for the Wisconsin Colgate 1st round game at the fiserv. I spoke with the coaches after and they had a fire about them that they would be back with vengeance.
Point being I want absolute no part of Colgate as they were absolutely unconscious from 3. If they are a 14 seed again I'm picking them to upset whoever they play
That was an awesome game and I agree that I want no part of Colgate. Not in a COLE (no pun intended) sense, but I'd feel bad karma with that matchup since I was pulling for them last year. They brought a great contingent of fans so I wish them success as long as it's not against us.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 08, 2023, 10:42:58 PM
Agreed. Gone are the days where the team is starved of talent and we are salivating over every decent potential transfer or recruit and where roster space is of zero concern. Regardless of what happens the rest of the year, I'm ready to run it back with the guys we got and have coming in. It's a good place to be.
I agree 100%. I, too, am perfectly happy with this year's roster and with the perimeter guys coming back and the new guys coming in. What I meant was Essegian as a freshman is such a good prospect that IF he was of the mind to transfer and IF we didn't have such a loaded roster next year, he could be the shooting guard on my team.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 08, 2023, 11:00:17 PM
I agree 100%. I, too, am perfectly happy with this year's roster and with the perimeter guys coming back and the new guys coming in. What I meant was Essegian as a freshman is such a good prospect that IF he was of the mind to transfer and IF we didn't have such a loaded roster next year, he could be the shooting guard on my team.
No argument there. He's a good talent and if we had the space for him, would love another guy like that who can shoot and plays with a bit of edge. Though his defense could use some improvement.
@nolongerwarriors
T's & P's. Tissue?
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401514236
Refs just f*cking Oregon st on back to back possessions. Missed goaltend on one end then blatant miss on an offensive goaltend next. tie game due to that 4 pt swing.
Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 08, 2023, 10:47:09 PM
I sat courtside behind the Colgate bench last year for the Wisconsin Colgate 1st round game at the fiserv. I spoke with the coaches after and they had a fire about them that they would be back with vengeance.
Point being I want absolute no part of Colgate as they were absolutely unconscious from 3. If they are a 14 seed again I'm picking them to upset whoever they play
except that "rag tag" bunch from milwaukee of course, but yes, colgate can be one of those teams that want to be known for more then an over rated dentifrice
Speaking of Colgate, I'm surprised Matt Langel's name never comes up for any high major head coaching jobs. He's been COY something like three times in that conference and I think he's only in his 40s. Thought he would've been a sneaky good hire for Villanova, and not just because he kind of looks like Jay Wright.
Marquette shouldn't be afraid to play anybody at this point, but Colgate will be a tough out for whoever they face next weekend.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 08, 2023, 10:50:41 PM
I think Gard is toast. If Mac brings him back next year, Gard is essentially a lame duck coach.
Mac knows his ceiling. No Sweet 16's since Bo's players. Probably a 2nd missed tourney in the last 6 years. Two tourney wins in the last 6 years, including only one win combined from the 3 and 5 seed teams Gard had.
Mac won't settle for being plucky overachievers that occasionally make the 2nd round. He has much higher aspirations than that.
This makes sense. If McIntosh were looking for any opening to hire an actual good basketball coach, this season's showing gave him one. He'd be foolish not to take advantage of the opening ... but I hope he doesn't! I like having a guy who can't recruit coaching in Madison.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 08, 2023, 08:47:04 PM
It would be an attractive job. They'll pay well. Also, they'll be the guy after the guy who replaced Bo Ryan.
People have thrown around Nate Oats (That ship has sailed for the time being) and TJO because they're local. Not sure TJO is the right fit there.
DeVries might be a good fit in Madison.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 08, 2023, 08:54:11 PM
TJO reminds me a lot of Buzz. I'd be very surprised if he's still at Iowa State three years from now. He's the type of guy who'll keep job-hopping until he either hits the jackpot at a blue blood or fizzles out like Buzz did.
Pie in the sky for UW would be if Tony Bennett had a few subpar years at Virginia and wanted to come home.
He just won co-coach of the year this year and is going to make the tournament easily.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 08, 2023, 10:50:41 PM
I think Gard is toast. If Mac brings him back next year, Gard is essentially a lame duck coach.
Mac knows his ceiling. No Sweet 16's since Bo's players. Probably a 2nd missed tourney in the last 6 years. Two tourney wins in the last 6 years, including only one win combined from the 3 and 5 seed teams Gard had.
Mac won't settle for being plucky overachievers that occasionally make the 2nd round. He has much higher aspirations than that.
IMO he gets one more year. His contact has a pretty prohibitive buy out this year and they just fired their hockey coach on top of Chryst in the fall. But by and large I agree that they are going to have higher expectations than this.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 09, 2023, 06:15:46 AM
He just won co-coach of the year this year and is going to make the tournament easily.
I don't think any decent program with a coaching vacancy will be looking at him unless he strings together another couple years like the one he's just had. He's been too much of a vagabond, a better version of Kevin O'Neill. I always thought he'd be a great fit at Louisville, though, and that's a job I think he'd actually stay at. It'll be interesting to see if they make a call should Payne get fired.
Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2023, 05:51:48 AM
This makes sense. If McIntosh were looking for any opening to hire an actual good basketball coach, this season's showing gave him one. He'd be foolish not to take advantage of the opening ... but I hope he doesn't! I like having a guy who can't recruit coaching in Madison.
Truthfully I think Gard is a decent coach. He had a rough year but are they really going to find someone better right now? I'm not so sure.
What about Wardle to Madison? MVC Coach of the year.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2023, 07:02:29 AM
Truthfully I think Gard is a decent coach. He had a rough year but are they really going to find someone better right now? I'm not so sure.
He's decent. Not great.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 09, 2023, 06:32:29 AM
IMO he gets one more year. His contact has a pretty prohibitive buy out this year and they just fired their hockey coach on top of Chryst in the fall. But by and large I agree that they are going to have higher expectations than this.
I wouldn't be shocked if Gard tries to find a job and Wisconsin waives the buyout. It sounds kinda crazy, but I think Minnesota would be smart to hire Gard.
Ben Johnson has been a disaster. They made a huge mistake hiring him instead of Dennis Gates. Gard has recruited Minnesota well and even his down years at Wisconsin are better than what Minnesota has done recently.
Gard would bring some much needed discipline to the Gophers. Hire a recruiting ace assistant and another that's an offensive guru. Gard resets his coaching clock and Minnesota gets a 2 time B1G COY.
I know this scenario probably doesn't happen, but it's at least an example that shows the options aren't limited to 1) fire Gard, or 2) Gard stays one more year.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 09, 2023, 06:53:54 AM
I don't think any decent program with a coaching vacancy will be looking at him unless he strings together another couple years like the one he's just had. He's been too much of a vagabond, a better version of Kevin O'Neill. I always thought he'd be a great fit at Louisville, though, and that's a job I think he'd actually stay at. It'll be interesting to see if they make a call should Payne get fired.
I think he is happy where he is. He'd maybe get mentioned at UT if he could be more successful where he is...
But I don't disagree with you that he would be a good fit at Louisville.
Plus he'd be selling high at TAMU... but I think he stays put.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 09, 2023, 04:42:55 AM
Speaking of Colgate, I'm surprised Matt Langel's name never comes up for any high major head coaching jobs. He's been COY something like three times in that conference and I think he's only in his 40s. Thought he would've been a sneaky good hire for Villanova, and not just because he kind of looks like Jay Wright.
Marquette shouldn't be afraid to play anybody at this point, but Colgate will be a tough out for whoever they face next weekend.
The patient crowd will be using Langel as an example:
12 seasons.
5 straight first place finishes in the Patriot League, in his past 5 seasons at Colgate.
He had zero winning records in his first six seasons at Colgate.
Still only 45.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 09, 2023, 07:13:14 AM
He's decent. Not great.
He is the very definition of milquetoast.
Gard knows his stuff, but the natives are certainly getting restless in Madison.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 09, 2023, 07:19:54 AM
I wouldn't be shocked if Gard tries to find a job and Wisconsin waives the buyout. It sounds kinda crazy, but I think Minnesota would be smart to hire Gard.
Ben Johnson has been a disaster. They made a huge mistake hiring him instead of Dennis Gates. Gard has recruited Minnesota well and even his down years at Wisconsin are better than what Minnesota has done recently.
Gard would bring some much needed discipline to the Gophers. Hire a recruiting ace assistant and another that's an offensive guru. Gard resets his coaching clock and Minnesota gets a 2 time B1G COY.
I know this scenario probably doesn't happen, but it's at least an example that shows the options aren't limited to 1) fire Gard, or 2) Gard stays one more year.
Minnesota is where coaching careers go to die.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 09, 2023, 07:25:30 AM
Minnesota is where coaching careers go to die.
Exactly. Gard and Minnesota both have limited options, which makes them a perfect match.
What other P5/BE school would hire Gard? What other established coach can Minnesota land? In a way, they kinda need each other.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 09, 2023, 07:19:54 AM
I wouldn't be shocked if Gard tries to find a job and Wisconsin waives the buyout. It sounds kinda crazy, but I think Minnesota would be smart to hire Gard.
Ben Johnson has been a disaster. They made a huge mistake hiring him instead of Dennis Gates. Gard has recruited Minnesota well and even his down years at Wisconsin are better than what Minnesota has done recently.
Gard would bring some much needed discipline to the Gophers. Hire a recruiting ace assistant and another that's an offensive guru. Gard resets his coaching clock and Minnesota gets a 2 time B1G COY.
I know this scenario probably doesn't happen, but it's at least an example that shows the options aren't limited to 1) fire Gard, or 2) Gard stays one more year.
Johnson might be a bad coach, but his team is still playing and Gard's isn't.
He gowne, aina?
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 09, 2023, 07:13:14 AM
He's decent. Not great.
Agreed. But I don't think he expected Wahl and to a degree Hepburn be so inept for a lot of their season. It's unfortunate Hepburn played out of his ass versus us.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 09, 2023, 07:35:01 AM
Exactly. Gard and Minnesota both have limited options, which makes them a perfect match.
What other P5/BE school would hire Gard? What other established coach can Minnesota land? In a way, they kinda need each other.
I could see Butler hiring Gard. Who will Gtown hire?
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 09, 2023, 07:10:12 AM
What about Wardle to Madison? MVC Coach of the year.
I'm all for it. Get it done, Chris
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 09, 2023, 07:10:12 AM
What about Wardle to Madison? MVC Coach of the year.
Both teams may face each in the NIT. Would be funny.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2023, 08:01:52 AM
I could see Butler hiring Gard. Who will Gtown hire?
I like the Gard to Butler thought.
Even if Gard is fired, he'll sit on his money for a year, maybe two. Unless someone else knows better, Butler isn't moving on from Thad and I don't believe he'll walk away until there's a foundation in place again. He's has some of his guys on support staff, Diebler and Oden. I can't believe he'll walk away after bringing those guys aboard.
Georgetown will probably chase Pitino and maybe/likely even get him. Good short term, not sure long term. Just being relevant again has to count for something. I'd like to see his staff and if he puts a succession plan in place
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2023, 07:02:29 AM
Truthfully I think Gard is a decent coach. He had a rough year but are they really going to find someone better right now? I'm not so sure.
He's meh. Look what he's done since Bo's players left. Meh.
I hope McIntosh signs him to a long extension!
He's a high floor, low ceiling coach. I think they were pretty close to their floor this year, and they'll still get a top 2 seed in the NIT. That's not terrible for your "worst seasons". The problem is, I think they were pretty close to their ceiling last year, share of the B14, 1st round pick on the roster, 3 seed that gets a lucky draw when the 6 in their region gets upset, and they still couldn't make a second weekend. If he were to stay there forever, I bet he'd have a tournament appearance % above 80, but would really need the stars to align to make any significant noise.
Quote from: Its DJOver on March 09, 2023, 08:58:33 AM
He's a high floor, low ceiling coach. I think they were pretty close to their floor this year, and they'll still get a top 2 seed in the NIT. That's not terrible for your "worst seasons". The problem is, I think they were pretty close to their ceiling last year, share of the B14, 1st round pick on the roster, 3 seed that gets a lucky draw when the 6 in their region gets upset, and they still couldn't make a second weekend. If he were to stay there forever, I bet he'd have a tournament appearance % above 80, but would really need the stars to align to make any significant noise.
Even Bo's two best tournament teams were built on the back of finding an unicorn in Kaminsky. In 2013, they flamed out against Ole Miss.
I'll always believe they had the run they had partly because Bo was a good coach and he had the luxury of Michigan, Illinois and Indiana largely lost in the wilderness for the majority of his tenure
I'd be happy to see Wisconsin sign Gard to a lifetime contract.
If not, Wardle to UW and Gard to Butler? That's a win win for Marquette fans.
Quote from: shoothoops on March 09, 2023, 07:24:01 AM
The patient crowd will be using Langel as an example:
12 seasons.
5 straight first place finishes in the Patriot League, in his past 5 seasons at Colgate.
He had zero winning records in his first six seasons at Colgate.
Still only 45.
Except that he's at a low major with no history of success before him. They made the postseason twice in 110 seasons of basketball before him, and that was with a fluke lottery pick who happened to go to HS in town. Langel's predecessor was there 13 years despite 3 winning seasons total. No respectable high or mid major program with any recent success is letting a coach stick around like that.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 09, 2023, 09:27:51 AM
Except that he's at a low major with no history of success before him. They made the postseason twice in 110 seasons of basketball before him, and that was with a fluke lottery pick who happened to go to HS in town. Langel's predecessor was there 13 years despite 3 winning seasons total. No respectable high or mid major program with any recent success is letting a coach stick around like that.
Point to where in my post I said they were. What I said was Langel will be used as an example of someone who has done very well, but, who took many years to do it.
It took Jay Wright 6 years to make the NCAA Tourney at Hofstra, and, it took him 4 years to do it at Villanova. It took Mike Krzyzewski 4 years to do it at Duke. Lots of other examples too.
Sometimes good coaches have success early and keep it going. Some have success early, then drop off and bounce back. Sometimes it takes several years. It all depends. There are several paths. And of course the game and business aspects of the game keep changing too.
Ohio State is 2/5ths of the way to pulling a Kemba
As I said yesterday in reply to why they were favored over Bucky. They are playing a lot better than results would indicate.
Could definitely see them getting another against Sparty
Rutgers beating Michigan is another nail in the Badger coffin.
UCLA getting all it wants from the Buffs with about 5:00 to play.
Quote from: Oldgym on March 09, 2023, 03:49:44 PM
UCLA getting all it wants from the Buffs with about 5:00 to play.
JJJ has been quiet the whole game until that shot.
Buffs look pretty good though.
I'm headed to the Pac 12 quarters night session. It's awesome out here in Vegas, 4 different conferences (if you include Henderson/Big West) out here. The area around T-Mobile Arena is set up nicely for the tournament.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 09, 2023, 07:19:06 PM
I'm headed to the Pac 12 quarters night session. It's awesome out here in Vegas, 4 different conferences (if you include Henderson/Big West) out here. The area around T-Mobile Arena is set up nicely for the tournament.
That's the way to do a conference tournament trip!
Pac 12 tournament has offered my son and I (so far) Nickleback, Australian Bee Gees, Stevie Nicks, and Mad Apple tickets. We're only at the under 8 first half timeout of game 1. My son keeps telling them to bring something better.
Watching Mizzou-Tennessee, will be curious to watch how Dennis Gates does moving forward. They run a crisp offense. Defense isn't good but they still play a lot like Marquette as far as energy and smart
Championship Saturday begins with the America East title game. Regular participant Vermont against UMass-Lowell who is looking for its first ever Dance bid.
Lowell, of course, is one of the important cities of American history
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2023, 04:38:52 PM
Watching Mizzou-Tennessee, will be curious to watch how Dennis Gates does moving forward. They run a crisp offense. Defense isn't good but they still play a lot like Marquette as far as energy and smart
DG getting paid
Looks like Vermont is going to get it done again.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 09, 2023, 08:44:36 PM
Pac 12 tournament has offered my son and I (so far) Nickleback, Australian Bee Gees, Stevie Nicks, and Mad Apple tickets. We're only at the under 8 first half timeout of game 1. My son keeps telling them to bring something better.
You know, you could always pass those on to me if you're not going to use them...
1 down, 12 to go
Congrats to Vermont
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2023, 09:11:52 AM
Even Bo's two best tournament teams were built on the back of finding an unicorn in Kaminsky. In 2013, they flamed out against Ole Miss.
I'll always believe they had the run they had partly because Bo was a good coach and he had the luxury of Michigan, Illinois and Indiana largely lost in the wilderness for the majority of his tenure
Also how Bielema had success in the early 2010s when OSU, Michigan and PSU were all lost in the wilderness. I don't see how Wisconsin can attract a coach that is way better than Gard, probably someone more on the margins. It's a FB town, look at their attendance numbers this year, the year after they won the B14.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 11, 2023, 11:54:46 AM
You know, you could always pass those on to me if you're not going to use them...
Bout to say, I'll take the Stevie Nicks tickets.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 12:07:09 PM
1 down, 12 to go
Congrats to Vermont
My daughter #2 is very happy UVM is dancing!
Appears VCU has spared us a potential national nightmare
Howard Bison win the MEAC after being down 4 with :20 left.
2 down, 11 to go
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 02:28:45 PM
Howard Bison win the MEAC after being down 4 with :20 left.
2 down, 11 to go
Not sure why the announcers were questioning the foul call with 6 sec left. The arm was completed hooked.
Quote from: MUDPT on March 11, 2023, 12:12:39 PM
Also how Bielema had success in the early 2010s when OSU, Michigan and PSU were all lost in the wilderness. I don't see how Wisconsin can attract a coach that is way better than Gard, probably someone more on the margins. It's a FB town, look at their attendance numbers this year, the year after they won the B14.
I say that all the time - both Badger football and basketball winning times coincided with the traditional B10 peers being weak. Pisses off the Walmart Badgers fans.
Games currently happening
🤮
I'd be thrilled to have IU be the 6 in the bracket if MU gets a 3. They are beyond inconsistent
Quote from: JWags85 on March 11, 2023, 03:31:30 PM
I'd be thrilled to have IU be the 6 in the bracket if MU gets a 3. They are beyond inconsistent
IU is not going to fall to the 6. Likely a 4 seed, 5 at worst
love to see buzz have a chance to knock off alabama...and he'll do it too!
Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 11, 2023, 03:55:41 PM
love to see buzz have a chance to knock off alabama...and he'll do it too!
He'd probably have hidden the gun used in the murder
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 03:57:21 PM
He'd probably have hidden the gun used in the murder
Buzz to NM ST
Indiana crapping the bed - they should be much better, but they make so many dumb mistakes each game.
Buzz to Indiana
Wife is a Hoosier. 16 year old wanted to know the difference between the two teams. I said that MU had the same rotation every game. And MU hasn't had a 'what the hell was that?' game. IU has had a few. Both are talented, but MU makes fewer mistakes.
Wife agreed. Now I have to rethink the whole thing.
The Fordham dream is over
Wojo was just bubbling with excitement this afternoon as he declared that Duke is playing as well as anyone in the country.
Texas Southern wins the SWAC with a losing record 🫤
Iona wins the MAAC
Texas blows out Kansas in the 2nd half to win the Big XII
Kent State wins the MAC over Toledo. 3 straight regular season titles for Toledo and no title bids. Gross
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 08:46:25 PM
Kent State wins the MAC over Toledo. 3 straight regular season titles for Toledo and no title bids. Gross
Tod Kowalczyk is second only to Wardle to replace Shaka
Quote from: JWags85 on March 11, 2023, 08:56:48 PM
Tod Kowalczyk is second only to Wardle to replace Shaka
Tough scene. He's done a great job at Toledo but that's rough.
Tyler and his dad and a bleeped out F*** Em.
https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1634750399365238784?t=N6i-QNK1uUygg-eW85vLVA&s=19
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 11, 2023, 09:00:30 PM
Tyler and his dad and a bleeped out F*** Em.
https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1634750399365238784?t=N6i-QNK1uUygg-eW85vLVA&s=19
Met Mr. Kolek in the concourse yesterday. Super nice family all around.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 11, 2023, 08:56:48 PM
Tod Kowalczyk is second only to Wardle to replace Shaka
Umm, Darrin Horn is #2
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 08:46:25 PM
Texas Southern wins the SWAC with a losing record 🫤
Iona wins the MAAC
Texas blows out Kansas in the 2nd half to win the Big XII
Kent State wins the MAC over Toledo. 3 straight regular season titles for Toledo and no title bids. Gross
Rodney Terry has done a heck of a job stepping in mid season. Does he get a major gig out of this?
It's possible UAB isn't better than FAU
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 09:15:01 PM
It's possible UAB isn't better than FAU
It's one game Rico. 7 game series and fau crumbles by game 3
Quote from: forgetful on March 11, 2023, 09:14:26 PM
Rodney Terry has done a heck of a job stepping in mid season. Does he get a major gig out of this?
Yes. The Texas job.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 09:15:01 PM
It's possible UAB isn't better than FAU
Also they were favored. Better team they just didn't win. Simple as that.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 11, 2023, 09:28:19 PM
Yes. The Texas job.
Pretty sure Texas Boosters want someone else.
Quote from: panda on March 11, 2023, 09:24:42 PM
It's one game Rico. 7 game series and fau crumbles by game 3
We should let Conference USA know 😜
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 09:34:02 PM
We should let Conference USA know 😜
Mickey Mouse conference. They know nothing About marketing their teams true stars
Great job by Jon Scheyer at Duke. Overcame injuries and figured out his rotations by the end of the year. Probably a 4-seed. Good chance they beat the 1-seed.
Fantastic work by Virginia almost getting to 50 points. Inspiring
Quote from: panda on March 11, 2023, 09:38:41 PM
Mickey Mouse conference. They know nothing About marketing their teams true stars
Poor man's Big Ten 😂
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 09:39:20 PM
Great job by Jon Scheyer at Duke. Overcame injuries and figured out his rotations by the end of the year. Probably a 4-seed. Good chance they beat the 1-seed.
Fantastic work by Virginia almost getting to 50 points. Inspiring
Gotta wonder what is going through Leon bond's head right now.
Quote from: panda on March 11, 2023, 09:45:08 PM
Gotta wonder what is going through Leon bond's head right now.
Probably looking forward to playing next year after redshirting this year.
Honestly, Chase Ross turned out to be pretty good. No need to worry about Bond.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 11, 2023, 09:50:43 PM
Probably looking forward to playing next year after redshirting this year.
Honestly, Chase Ross turned out to be pretty good. No need to worry about Bond.
I was going to say, who cares. He went where he wanted to play, probably looking forward to next season.
We got the guys that wanted to play in Shaka's system in Milwaukee.
Win wins all the way around. We be dancin'
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 11, 2023, 09:50:43 PM
Probably looking forward to playing next year after redshirting this year.
Honestly, Chase Ross turned out to be pretty good. No need to worry about Bond.
Don't confuse curiosity with concern.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2023, 09:39:20 PM
Great job by Jon Scheyer at Duke. Overcame injuries and figured out his rotations by the end of the year. Probably a 4-seed. Good chance they beat the 1-seed.
Fantastic work by Virginia almost getting to 50 points. Inspiring
Yessir. A lot of folks just assume Scheyer will not succeed at Duke. We'll see, but he's doing pretty good so far, and he takes a hot team into the NCAA tournament.