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Title: A successful Kam-paign. Kolek-t the hardware.
Post by: tower912 on February 25, 2023, 08:48:07 PM
1.   One thing consistent for me through Crean, Buzz, Wojo, Shaka..... I hate when the team makes 3's early not in the flow of the offense.    It always seems that they stop falling and then the team struggles to get into the rest of their offense.     
2.  Happy birthday, Kam.   And thanks for giving us all a present. 
3.  TKo.   So many dimes.  So much leadership.  Thanks for making all of the free throws.  Quit peeking on defense.   
4.  I have been saying all along that Stevie should play more.   Love the defense, love the hands, love the heart.   
5.   Joplin defends bigs better than he defends wings.   But, I am repeating myself here, too.  And he isn't a play maker.     
6.  I really wanted extended minutes for the bench.    I really wanted Ben, Sean, and Chase to play 10+ minutes in the second half.    Alas.       
7.   Not the first time the officiating has changed from half to half.      I hope to hear what Shaka said to earn the T.   
8.  Kudos to DePaul for bringing it in the second half.    It would have been easy to roll over.     They were the aggressors.   A healthy Ongenda all season would have changed things for them.   
9.   What a freaking day of college basketball.    So many upsets, so many comebacks.    MU dodged theirs.
10.  But the tie is clinched. 
11.  February fade!     February made.   Even though it wasn't immaculate. 
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Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 25, 2023, 08:49:23 PM
I hope that half convinces DePaul to keep Stubblefield for a decade.
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Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2023, 08:50:35 PM
Some nice minutes for Gold.
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Post by: Herman Cain on February 25, 2023, 08:51:03 PM
Delighted with our victory . We have a share of The Big East Championship. Let’s keep it going and clinch outright .
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Post by: Uncle Rico on February 25, 2023, 08:51:43 PM
Big East champs but Marquette lost the second half.

Is Shaka the right guy?  Think Shaka-Deane is on the hot seat
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Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 25, 2023, 08:51:55 PM
I hope that half convinces DePaul to keep Stubblefield for a decade.

I don’t know what it is, but something about him really irks me.
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Post by: CountryRoads on February 25, 2023, 08:52:02 PM
2023 Big East champions. Let’s get one more and win it outright.
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Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 25, 2023, 08:53:38 PM
2023 Big East champions. Let’s get one more and win it outright.
We have two games to play. COLE.
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Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 25, 2023, 08:54:45 PM
The body language of the players at the end of the game .. was no bueno.   I think they knew if the game was 42 minutes long, they'd have lost.  DePaul was roughly unstoppable the final ~7 minutes.
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Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 25, 2023, 08:55:19 PM
The body language of the players at the end of the game .. was no bueno.   I think they knew if the game was 42 minutes long, they'd have lost.  DePaul was roughly unstoppable the final ~7 minutes.

Lol. It was never in doubt.
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Post by: nyg on February 25, 2023, 08:56:57 PM
In last seven minutes, Kolek had 15 of MUs 16 points.  Believe 11 from free throw line.  Only other point was a free throw by Kam Jones.  Thank goodness for great first half, since MU has been a second half team recently.

Nice win, even though some ugly. Congrats to team, hope they win one of remaining two to keep title to themselves. 

Yes, Stubblefield is sort of strange dude….No three point attempts at end?  Even Bardo thought that was bad. 
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Post by: Goose on February 25, 2023, 08:57:25 PM
The game was never in doubt. Got out of rhythm early in the second half and not never got back on track. Anyone who thought the game was in doubt, not sure what you were watching.
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Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2023, 08:57:58 PM
Oso getting his 3rd changed everything.
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Post by: StillAWarrior on February 25, 2023, 08:58:39 PM
Obviously, I wanted a 20 point blowout. But, the game was never in doubt and Marquette just won a share of the Big East Championship. Hell yeah!

Now, hopefully they way that game finished will leave them unsatisfied and hungry and propel them to win the next two.

We. Are. Marquette!
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Post by: mileskishnish72 on February 25, 2023, 08:58:51 PM
Gotta agree with points 1 & 7.

Kind of lost focus 2nd half.
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Post by: tower912 on February 25, 2023, 09:00:52 PM
Oso getting his 3rd changed everything.
Shouldn't have been in at that point.     You gamble, sometimes you lose. 
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Post by: MUeng on February 25, 2023, 09:03:56 PM
Some nice minutes for Gold.
totally agree. He looked comfortable out there, good to see
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Post by: CountryRoads on February 25, 2023, 09:07:16 PM
The game was never in doubt. Got out of rhythm early in the second half and not never got back on track. Anyone who thought the game was in doubt, not sure what you were watching.

It wasn’t in doubt because we have the Big East player of the year on our side. He was lights out down the stretch and kept the game in control.
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Post by: mug644 on February 25, 2023, 09:09:42 PM
Who's listening to the post-game? Homer keeps saying "chomps" and "chompions"? I'm not a Wisconsite, but am a midwesterner, but that pronunciation seems odd and incorrect.

Either way, MU has guaranteed at least a tie for first place in the regular season! Chomps and champs!!
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Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 25, 2023, 09:12:00 PM
Lol. It was never in doubt.

I didn't say it was.  Games are 40 minutes long.
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Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2023, 09:12:26 PM
Who's listening to the post-game? Homer keeps saying "chomps" and "chompions"? I'm not a Wisconsite, but am a midwesterner, but that pronunciation seems odd and incorrect.

Either way, MU has guaranteed at least a tie for first place in the regular season! Chomps and champs!!

Better than Bardo continually calling Kolek “Cowlick”.
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Post by: wiscwarrior on February 25, 2023, 09:21:20 PM
Who's listening to the post-game? Homer keeps saying "chomps" and "chompions"? I'm not a Wisconsite, but am a midwesterner, but that pronunciation seems odd and incorrect.

Either way, MU has guaranteed at least a tie for first place in the regular season! Chomps and champs!!
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Homer's from Indiana.
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Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 25, 2023, 09:23:11 PM
Marquette is Big East champions despite being picked ninth.

Scoop:

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Title: Re: A successful Kam-paign. Kolek-t the hardware.
Post by: withoutbias on February 25, 2023, 09:25:07 PM
1.   One thing consistent for me through Crean, Buzz, Wojo, Shaka..... I hate when the team makes 3's early not in the flow of the offense.    It always seems that they stop falling and then the team struggles to get into the rest of their offense.     
2.  Happy birthday, Kam.   And thanks for giving us all a present. 
3.  TKo.   So many dimes.  So much leadership.  Thanks for making all of the free throws.  Quit peeking on defense.   
4.  I have been saying all along that Stevie should play more.   Love the defense, love the hands, love the heart.   
5.   Joplin defends bigs better than he defends wings.   But, I am repeating myself here, too.  And he isn't a play maker.     
6.  I really wanted extended minutes for the bench.    I really wanted Ben, Sean, and Chase to play 10+ minutes in the second half.    Alas.       
7.   Not the first time the officiating has changed from half to half.      I hope to hear what Shaka said to earn the T.   
8.  Kudos to DePaul for bringing it in the second half.    It would have been easy to roll over.     They were the aggressors.   A healthy Ongenda all season would have changed things for them.   
9.   What a freaking day of college basketball.    So many upsets, so many comebacks.    MU dodged theirs.
10.  But the tie is clinched. 
11.  February fade!     February made.   Even though it wasn't immaculate.

I like when we make 3s.

Stevie is starting every game and playing 24 minutes per game. Given that he’s tasked with cutting the head off of the snake and is an absolute hound for all 94 feet, and given that you want the rotation to be 9 deep so players don’t get worn out throughout the season, I think he gets just the right amount of minutes. He puts a lot into the game physically.
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Post by: 21Jumpstreet on February 25, 2023, 09:28:24 PM
Had to turn it off when up 20, then back on only up 6. Shaka mentioned in the postgame a tense interaction between TyKo and OMax, said great teams use it to get better. Anyone able to share what the “altercation” was?
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Post by: Uncle Rico on February 25, 2023, 09:30:24 PM
Had to turn it off when up 20, then back on only up 6. Shaka mentioned in the postgame a tense interaction between TyKo and OMax, said great teams use it to get better. Anyone able to share what the “altercation” was?

It was when OMax went up with a quick shot after an offensive rebound with less than a minute left. 
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Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2023, 09:31:31 PM
Had to turn it off when up 20, then back on only up 6. Shaka mentioned in the postgame a tense interaction between TyKo and OMax, said great teams use it to get better. Anyone able to share what the “altercation” was?

I’ll assume when it was in the last minute, OMax got a great offensive board but instead of kicking it out to use clock, went up, got swatted and led to a DePaul dunk. Gave DePaul life instead of extinguishing it.
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Post by: Goose on February 25, 2023, 09:32:08 PM
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Omax got a late offensive rebound late and tried to score instead of kicking the ball out and take time off the clock. Kolek was hot and 50%+ correct but maybe handled poorly.
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Post by: mug644 on February 25, 2023, 09:32:31 PM
Who's listening to the post-game? Homer keeps saying "chomps" and "chompions"? I'm not a Wisconsite, but am a midwesterner, but that pronunciation seems odd and incorrect.

Either way, MU has guaranteed at least a tie for first place in the regular season! Chomps and champs!!

Homer's from Indiana.

I'm also from Indiana, and I've never heard it pronounced that way. Just before Shaka came on, he said it differently a couple of times, but then reverted. Frankly, he sounded a bit buzzed. Which is ok, given that achievement of a chompionship. I might be a bit buzzed meself.  ;)
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Post by: 21Jumpstreet on February 25, 2023, 09:33:43 PM
Appreciate it guys. That’s leadership sometimes, for both guys
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Post by: Newsdreams on February 25, 2023, 09:49:01 PM
Big East champs but Marquette lost the second half.

Is Shaka the right guy?  Think Shaka-Deane Dukiet is on the hot seat
There
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Post by: Newsdreams on February 25, 2023, 09:55:24 PM
What was strange to me was Kam was on fire and he was subbed several times, not same shooter again.
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Post by: TipToe Incognito on February 25, 2023, 10:10:34 PM
Not the greatest second half… but a win nonetheless. Big east champions… wow!!!
And a very real possibility to be ranked better than ninth this coming week after being picked ninth in the big east.

As Tyler said, f*** em

Hope they keep sleeping, we’ll wake em up in march  ;)
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Post by: pbiflyer on February 25, 2023, 10:25:00 PM
Lol. It was never in doubt.
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Post by: goldeneagle91114 on February 25, 2023, 10:37:57 PM
Had to turn it off when up 20, then back on only up 6. Shaka mentioned in the postgame a tense interaction between TyKo and OMax, said great teams use it to get better. Anyone able to share what the “altercation” was?

Omax grabbed an offensive board with under 2 mins left. Instead of kicking it back out to use to the clock, he went right back up with it. The shot was blocked, Omax went sprawling to the floor, and DePaul got a quick/easy bucket in transition. Tyler was pissed!!!!
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Post by: Judge Smails on February 25, 2023, 10:47:16 PM
It was a great rebound from Omax - one of those great hustle plays that we’ve seen from him so many times. But his situational awareness was terrible once he secured the board.

Congrats MU on the BE title!!!  What a season!!! Can’t wait for March!!!
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Post by: MUMountin on February 25, 2023, 10:47:30 PM
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Omax got a late offensive rebound late and tried to score instead of kicking the ball out and take time off the clock. Kolek was hot and 50%+ correct but maybe handled poorly.

I just watched the end of the game.  Kolek yelled at OMax both right after he got the board and then again across the whole court after DePaul came down and got a dunk.   

At the end of the ensuing timeout, Kolek went and gave Omax five and slapped him on the chest as if to say, “don’t worry about it, shake it off.”  And maybe “sorry I got pissed at you and yelled at you”.  Heated in the moment, but they both seemed to get past it. 
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Post by: PointWarrior on February 25, 2023, 10:50:23 PM
Watched the first half and had to leave for an ill-timed concert.  Guess I won’t be watching the 2nd half…

Sure beats losing to Depaul.  And a conference title.  Oso got some rest and Gold got some good minutes. And Kam can shoot….
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Post by: MUMountin on February 25, 2023, 10:55:46 PM
The game was never in doubt. Got out of rhythm early in the second half and not never got back on track. Anyone who thought the game was in doubt, not sure what you were watching.

After we went up big in the first, Shaka seemed to use the opportunity to give the bench some run, try out different line up combos (some small ball, even a jumbo package with Gold and Oso), and maybe give the starters a little load management.  I think that disrupted a lot of the flow.  He would then reinsert the starters when things started getting shaky, but Oso’s foul trouble complicated it down the stretch.  I think if he was really worried, we would have seen a lot more of the starters and probably wouldn’t have felt as disjointed.
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Post by: HutchwasClutch on February 25, 2023, 11:00:55 PM
Watched the first half and had to leave for an ill-timed concert.  Guess I won’t be watching the 2nd half…

Sure beats losing to Depaul.  And a conference title.  Oso got some rest and Gold got some good minutes. And Kam can shoot….

Really looking forward to Gold next couple years.  His shooting will get much more consistent.  He can score in different ways too.  Not afraid at all to mix it up inside.  He clearly belongs at this level and another offseason of strength and skill refinement, really believe he’s going to be a solid contributor. 
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Post by: HutchwasClutch on February 25, 2023, 11:14:28 PM
It was when OMax went up with a quick shot after an offensive rebound with less than a minute left.

And that just can’t happen.  Unless you have a dunk that ball has to go back out to make them foul.  There were two DePaul guys right there to contest his shot.  He’s in his third year of college, no excuse for doing that.  That can lead to a loss against good teams. 
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 25, 2023, 11:30:08 PM
Honestly, Shaka was f*cking around with different lineups and rotations. We didn't follow our normal sub pattern and played several lineups that don't typically get used often for long stretches. Shaka knew weren't losing that game and wanted to experiment.
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Post by: JakeBarnes on February 26, 2023, 12:34:16 AM
The game was never in doubt. Got out of rhythm early in the second half and not never got back on track. Anyone who thought the game was in doubt, not sure what you were watching.

Some of us watched gamecast because of amazing wives that got us fancy dinner thst happened to conflict with game times

felt sweaty, but ok.
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Post by: The Thing on February 26, 2023, 12:43:36 AM
Was it meat sweats? Arby’s?
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Post by: GB Warrior on February 26, 2023, 12:48:56 AM
I was traveling for a concert we've been dying to get to for 3+ years and watching during the opening act. It never felt in doubt, just annoyingly not final. Call it the Louisville rule, but I don't feel great unless we're up 18 with 4 minutes left
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Post by: muwarrior69 on February 26, 2023, 05:59:18 AM
Honestly, Shaka was f*cking around with different lineups and rotations. We didn't follow our normal sub pattern and played several lineups that don't typically get used often for long stretches. Shaka knew weren't losing that game and wanted to experiment.

Hmm...got a technical, wanted to see how the team would respond.
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Post by: We R Final Four on February 26, 2023, 06:44:31 AM
Who's listening to the post-game? Homer keeps saying "chomps" and "chompions"? I'm not a Wisconsite, but am a midwesterner, but that pronunciation seems odd and incorrect.

Either way, MU has guaranteed at least a tie for first place in the regular season! Chomps and champs!!

Thats his schtick. It’s annoying. I really believe these MU games are an annoyance to him, as he rather would discuss Aaron Rodgers 24/7.
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Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 26, 2023, 06:53:38 AM
Why would anyone intentionally listen to Homer? I'd prefer a Pete Gillen / Dickey Simpkins tag team.
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Post by: We R Final Four on February 26, 2023, 06:57:42 AM
Why would anyone intentionally listen to Homer? I'd prefer a Pete Gillen / Dickey Simpkins tag team.
Because he interviews Shaka 10 minutes after that game.
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Post by: rocket surgeon on February 26, 2023, 07:07:12 AM
And that just can’t happen.  Unless you have a dunk that ball has to go back out to make them foul.  There were two DePaul guys right there to contest his shot.  He’s in his third year of college, no excuse for doing that.  That can lead to a loss against good teams.

  absolutely right on HC!  i'm sure there was a special moment in the locker room post game addressing this.  i don't even want to consider the alternative ending, but omax owes his team mates as this could have ended badly leading to many a sleepless night.
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Post by: lessthannick11 on February 26, 2023, 07:14:27 AM

Thats his schtick. It’s annoying. I really believe these MU games are an annoyance to him, as he rather would discuss Aaron Rodgers 24/7.


He says "chomp" instead of "champ" because that's how George Thompson used to say it.
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Post by: NotAnAlum on February 26, 2023, 07:28:21 AM
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Omax got a late offensive rebound late and tried to score instead of kicking the ball out and take time off the clock. Kolek was hot and 50%+ correct but maybe handled poorly.

I guess he didn't realize "the game was really never in doubt"   :D
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Post by: wisblue on February 26, 2023, 07:34:41 AM
Anyone who says that game was never in doubt wasn’t paying attention to games around the country yesterday, specifically MSU-Iowa and FSU-Miami.

When you let a game get as close as that you are running the risk that a couple of missed FTs and desperation 3 point shots can turn what looked like a sure win in a gut wrenching loss.

Fortunately Kolek maintained control and made the clutch FTs (and the team’s only FG) over the last 8 minutes and secured the win.

But if the Coach can express his displeasure at some things that happened in the second half, and say at his press conference that it’s OK to have some mixed feelings about that game, I think it’s OK for fans too.

I can distinguish between CRITICIZING a performance and COMPLAINING about a win. It appears that some people on this board can’t.
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Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 26, 2023, 07:37:17 AM
"Never in doubt" is a bit of a hyperbole, but I was never really concerned about the outcome. And I saw the endings of the other games earlier in the day.
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Post by: connie on February 26, 2023, 07:42:04 AM
I'm going to admit a bit of pucker as the gap narrowed.  Kolek stopped it from becoming a panic.  Dude is just ice.
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Post by: We R Final Four on February 26, 2023, 07:43:33 AM
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Omax got a late offensive rebound late and tried to score instead of kicking the ball out and take time off the clock. Kolek was hot and 50%+ correct but maybe handled poorly.
Goose

How so? TK is the leader if this team. He is in winning mode. TK was 100% correct in His belief that OMax should have kicked the ball out….to help secure the victory. Because he didn’t, and made the ‘wrong’ play…..I believe TK was 100% correct in tuning omax up.
Im thankful for what TK did, as it may pay dividends in a late tournament game for omax to make the right play. Not always easy being the leader/bad guy but im glad we have one!
As shaka said post game….. if you have a good team…these confrontations can be beneficial….if not…well then you are DePaul.
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Post by: wisblue on February 26, 2023, 07:46:35 AM
I will say that the win feels a lot better for me the day after than it did near the end last night when it was just a relief to see the final seconds come off the clock. Prosper’s ill fated put back that led to a quick bucket at the other end really irked me. I didn’t notice it from the stands, but I’m glad that Kolek apparently dressed him down for that bonehead play.

There was not the kind of festive response from the crowd at the end that we envisioned in the build up to the game.
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Post by: Scoop Snoop on February 26, 2023, 07:51:58 AM
Anyone who says that game was never in doubt wasn’t paying attention to games around the country yesterday, specifically MSU-Iowa and FSU-Miami.

When you let a game get as close as that you are running the risk that a couple of missed FTs and desperation 3 point shots can turn what looked like a sure win in a gut wrenching loss.

Fortunately Kolek maintained control and made the clutch FTs (and the team’s only FG) over the last 8 minutes and secured the win.

But if the Coach can express his displeasure at some things that happened in the second half, and say at his press conference that it’s OK to have some mixed feelings about that game, I think it’s OK for fans too.

I can distinguish between CRITICIZING a performance and COMPLAINING about a win. It appears that some people on this board can’t.

Agree. Although I thought we would win despite DP's late game heroics, or whatever the Hell it was, assuming that it was not possible (my take from some of the comments) for DP to win? Very improbable-yes, but not impossible.
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Post by: wisblue on February 26, 2023, 08:38:14 AM
A significant part of the anticlimactic feeling at the end of the game was that the last couple of minutes took forever because of the fouling and parade to the free throw line. That game shouldn’t have come down to that.

I was happy that, after OMax’s bonehead play, DP let Kolek dribble for 20 seconds before fouling him unintentionally. I was also grateful that the Demons kept driving to the basket instead of shooting 3’s, which Johnson and Gibson had been draining. They weren’t going to catch up trading 2 for 1 or 2.
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Post by: Daniel on February 26, 2023, 08:43:51 AM
A significant part of the anticlimactic feeling at the end of the game was that the last couple of minutes took forever because of the fouling and parade to the free throw line. That game shouldn’t have come down to that.

I was happy that, after OMax’s bonehead play, DP let Kolek dribble for 20 seconds before fouling him unintentionally. I was also grateful that the Demons kept driving to the basket instead of shooting 3’s, which Johnson and Gibson had been draining. They weren’t going to catch up trading 2 for 1 or 2.

Was nice that TK hit what 7 of his 8 free throws at the end!  Iceman!   
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Post by: Badgerhater on February 26, 2023, 08:46:49 AM


I was at the game and DePaul’s play selection puzzled me but I wasn’t going to complain.
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Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 26, 2023, 08:47:28 AM
As I said, I hope Tony Stubblefield is employed by DePaul for a very long time.
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Post by: StillAWarrior on February 26, 2023, 08:59:19 AM
"Never in doubt" is a bit of a hyperbole, but I was never really concerned about the outcome. And I saw the endings of the other games earlier in the day.

Agreed. I don’t think there is anything inconsistent with saying I never really doubted that MU would win and still being displeased with how they finished. I wanted MU to win by 20+ and feel like they should have. I’m displeased that they didn’t. But I was never concerned that they were going to lose. And I wathched other games too.

Honestly, I’m not completely disappointed if the team has a bit of a sour taste in its mouth. I was on record saying that I didn’t want them to treat last nights game as a coronation. There’s still a lot of work to be done.

Stay hungry, Warriors. No finish line.
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Post by: mugrad_89 on February 26, 2023, 09:03:35 AM
Agreed. I don’t think there is anything inconsistent with saying I never really doubted that MU would win and still being displeased with how they finished. I wanted MU to win by 20+ and feel like they should have. I’m displeased that they didn’t. But I was never concerned that they were going to lose. And I wathched other games too.

Honestly, I’m not completely disappointed if the team has a bit of a sour taste in its mouth. I was on record saying that I didn’t want them to treat last nights game as a coronation. There’s still a lot of work to be done.

Stay hungry, Warriors. No finish line.

I’m wondering if anyone not named Kolek has that ‘step on the throat’ mentality.  This had shades of the Butler game where they got up big early, lost their focus and made the game much closer than it should have been.
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Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 26, 2023, 09:09:16 AM
I think y’all are way, way too worried about the end of that game. This team doesn't have a bad loss and have executed just fine down the stretch in some big games. They know how to put teams away.
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Post by: Tha Hound on February 26, 2023, 09:20:10 AM
This thread is so Scoop it hurts.

We just won the big east for the first time in a decade, after being picked 9th in the conference, on our way to a potential 2 seed, and yet all you see in the post game thread is whining and complaining.

Y’all really are joyless
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 26, 2023, 09:51:21 AM
Again, Shaka wasn't playing that game seriously. He was testing out little used lineups and different sub patterns. He had to put the starters in at the end to close it out and they came in cold. I'm really not worried
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Post by: wisblue on February 26, 2023, 09:59:49 AM
This thread is so Scoop it hurts.

We just won the big east for the first time in a decade, after being picked 9th in the conference, on our way to a potential 2 seed, and yet all you see in the post game thread is whining and complaining.

Y’all really are joyless

Exhibit A.

CRITICISING is not whining and complaining.

If it is, then Shaka Smart and Tony Smith are both whiners and complainers.
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Post by: Tha Hound on February 26, 2023, 10:01:14 AM
Exhibit A.

CRITICISING is not whining and complaining.

If it is, then Shaka Smart and Tony Smith are both whiners and complainers.

I know it’s unfathomable to you, but just try to enjoy a regular season championship for one second. I promise, you’ll like it!
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Post by: fjm on February 26, 2023, 10:03:58 AM
Again, Shaka wasn't playing that game seriously. He was testing out little used lineups and different sub patterns. He had to put the starters in at the end to close it out and they came in cold. I'm really not worried


For sure this. Proof?: Ben gold played a ton in the first half when Oso only had 1 foul. If Oso was in there more often we woulda been way more up at half.
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Post by: Scoop Snoop on February 26, 2023, 10:57:52 AM
Again, Shaka wasn't playing that game seriously. He was testing out little used lineups and different sub patterns. He had to put the starters in at the end to close it out and they came in cold. I'm really not worried

This was my take as well. I can assure you that my wife quickly got tired of my repeating it during the first half.
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Post by: Jockey on February 26, 2023, 11:06:40 AM
I know it’s unfathomable to you, but just try to enjoy a regular season championship for one second. I promise, you’ll like it!

Great point, Hound.

Also, I think this game illustrates what Shaka means when he talks about ‘violence’. MU had it in the 1st half and built a 20 point lead. They came out in the 2nd half with zero intensity and violence. Shaka saw it immediately and did a line change 2 minutes into the 2nd half.

But they had lost all intensity and it can be really hard to turn it back on.
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Post by: wisblue on February 26, 2023, 11:14:28 AM
I know it’s unfathomable to you, but just try to enjoy a regular season championship for one second. I promise, you’ll like it!

I guess you haven't been paying attention. I enjoy it plenty, especially compared to those who brush it off as irrelevant and use the NCAA tournament as the true measure of success.

Just worry about yourself, because I am just fine.
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Post by: 1318WWells on February 26, 2023, 11:15:47 AM

For sure this. Proof?: Ben gold played a ton in the first half when Oso only had 1 foul. If Oso was in there more often we woulda been way more up at half.

Oso picked up his 2nd foul with like 13 minutes left in the first half. I was actually surprised at how much Shaka still used him. Worked nicely as Oso had a personal 6-0 run that stretched the lead. Finally got burned in the last minute when he picked up his 3rd.
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Post by: wisblue on February 26, 2023, 11:18:46 AM

For sure this. Proof?: Ben gold played a ton in the first half when Oso only had 1 foul. If Oso was in there more often we woulda been way more up at half.

It seems like Gold has often been subbed in early, regardless of Oso having fouls. Skaka seems to like getting some of the bench players a taste of the game early, and makes a sub or two if there's a stoppage any time within a minute or so before the first media timeout.
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Post by: StillAWarrior on February 26, 2023, 11:44:14 AM
I feel like most of what has been said about O-Max in last night's game has been about one regrettable decision toward the end of the game - but at least that followed a really nice rebound.

But I want to take a contrary point. Watching the game last night, I felt like something switched in O-Max. I'm not sure if it was late in the first half or early in the second. Over the last several games, I've felt like O-Max had been playing out of control and scared. Many of us have commented about him falling down all the time. He didn't look confident. During the game last night I commented to my wife several times that O-Max suddenly looked more confident and was playing more confident. He didn't seem nearly as tentative as he had been for several games and had a good look in his eyes. He only hit the floor once or twice. I think it was kind of subtle, but I really do think that he turned a corner.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I had a sense that O-Max is "back." Which is fantastic because he's a big piece of the puzzle when the team is playing well.

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Post by: JakeBarnes on February 26, 2023, 11:49:41 AM
I feel like most of what has been said about O-Max in last night's game has been about one regrettable decision toward the end of the game - but at least that followed a really nice rebound.

But I want to take a contrary point. Watching the game last night, I felt like something switched in O-Max. I'm not sure if it was late in the first half or early in the second. Over the last several games, I've felt like O-Max had been playing out of control and scared. Many of us have commented about him falling down all the time. He didn't look confident. During the game last night I commented to my wife several times that O-Max suddenly looked more confident and was playing more confident. He didn't seem nearly as tentative as he had been for several games and had a good look in his eyes. He only hit the floor once or twice. I think it was kind of subtle, but I really do think that he turned a corner.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I had a sense that O-Max is "back." Which is fantastic because he's a big piece of the puzzle when the team is playing well.

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Just watched and agree. Outside of one play, he was playing in control and smart. Think the switch has been flipped again, hope the play towards the end doesn't mess with his aggressiveness
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Post by: Newsdreams on February 26, 2023, 12:00:39 PM
I heard he wrote a letter.....
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Post by: Goose on February 26, 2023, 12:45:02 PM
Omax

Played a very solid game last night and was far more in control. He stayed on his feet and was disruptive on defense. A positive step forward, imo.
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Post by: Daniel on February 26, 2023, 12:53:12 PM
Omax

Played a very solid game last night and was far more in control. He stayed on his feet and was disruptive on defense. A positive step forward, imo.

Yes. Really outside that one play he was pretty solid.    Everyone had a bad play or two last night either bad passes that were turned over or goofy fouls, etc.   So, Goo Omax!   We need ya!
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Post by: StillWarriors on February 26, 2023, 12:55:41 PM
A significant part of the anticlimactic feeling at the end of the game was that the last couple of minutes took forever because of the fouling and parade to the free throw line. That game shouldn’t have come down to that.


25% of the crowd and half the student section leaving early didn't help. It was just a weird feeling how that ended. Hopefully next Saturday will be more of a celebratory feel as it is certainly deserved. The first half was sure fun.
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Post by: cheebs09 on February 26, 2023, 01:06:49 PM
Again, Shaka wasn't playing that game seriously. He was testing out little used lineups and different sub patterns. He had to put the starters in at the end to close it out and they came in cold. I'm really not worried

Kind of like the Butler game. It will help us if we get into foul trouble in the tourney or play a funky matchup.
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Post by: Goose on February 26, 2023, 01:36:04 PM
Still

The second half was hard to watch, especially after a high energy first half. IMO, the second half was an experiment that made the game closer. There were a couple of one-on-one plays by the younger guys that I think they will learn from watching the tape. If I had bet on the game I would be upset with the second half, I did not and only upset because I was hoping for a slew of second half dunks from MU, not DePaul.
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Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 26, 2023, 07:35:06 PM
25% of the crowd and half the student section leaving early didn't help. It was just a weird feeling how that ended. Hopefully next Saturday will be more of a celebratory feel as it is certainly deserved. The first half was sure fun.

The armed riot police ringing the court didn't help the environment.
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Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 26, 2023, 08:30:20 PM
I think part of the .. non-celebratory mood .. is that MU Nation is unfamiliar with where we are.  It's been too many years and too many Februaries where things look great and fall apart with the team hitting a 6 game skid.   Now MU looks like a contender, with dreams of a Final Four.

Watching DePaul put up 56 points in the 2H .. watching them be unstoppable .. watching Kolek slam the ball down after yet another easy DePaul bucket .. gives us all flashback nightmares.  Maybe this team isn't as good as people say.  Maybe MU flames out like the past ~decade. Maybe Lucy is just about to pull the ball away from Charlie Brown and send him flying yet again.

MU fans have PTSD.   Some need some time to acclimate to success again.
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Post by: Miss Katie’s on February 26, 2023, 09:25:09 PM
Thread title on point
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Post by: DoctorV on February 26, 2023, 09:38:52 PM
I think part of the .. non-celebratory mood .. is that MU Nation is unfamiliar with where we are.  It's been too many years and too many Februaries where things look great and fall apart with the team hitting a 6 game skid.   Now MU looks like a contender, with dreams of a Final Four.

Watching DePaul put up 56 points in the 2H .. watching them be unstoppable .. watching Kolek slam the ball down after yet another easy DePaul bucket .. gives us all flashback nightmares.  Maybe this team isn't as good as people say.  Maybe MU flames out like the past ~decade. Maybe Lucy is just about to pull the ball away from Charlie Brown and send him flying yet again.

MU fans have PTSD.   Some need some time to acclimate to success again.

Sure, ok.

There is NOTHING confusing about being Big East Champions, however.

Hopefully this upcoming Saturday we get a party that is indicative of that from everyone in the building.
The students should start it, the players and coaches have earned it, and the sweater vests should embrace it.