Wow, hey?
Doc
Saw the highlights and quite impressive. Actually wish I had watched live after seeing the highlights.
Honky's got some hops, aina?
Big time hops!!
All Star games/weekends are boring. McClung was a pleasant exception. Truly amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW4SVoTd4EQ
The one dunk his head may have brushed the rim.
Pretty fly for a white guy.
You can tell that the announcers don't watch much freestyle skiing or snowboarding. They didn't know how many degrees one and a half circles is.
Dumb question, but I was wondering - in a real game, would that first dunk have counted? Or would the fact that he touched the backboard on with the ball and then dunked it be goaltending?
Quote from: warriorchick on February 19, 2023, 02:41:10 PM
Pretty fly for a white guy.
You can tell that the announcers don't watch much freestyle skiing or snowboarding. They didn't know how many degrees one and a half circles is.
Dumb question, but I was wondering - in a real game, would that first dunk have counted? Or would the fact that he touched the backboard on with the ball and then dunked it be goaltending?
It never left his possession. I can think of other layups or made baskets where someone is going up strong and gets hit or blocked and contacts the backboard with the ball still in his hand before releasing
Quote from: warriorchick on February 19, 2023, 02:41:10 PM
Pretty fly for a white guy.
You can tell that the announcers don't watch much freestyle skiing or snowboarding. They didn't know how many degrees one and a half circles is.
Dumb question, but I was wondering - in a real game, would that first dunk have counted? Or would the fact that he touched the backboard on with the ball and then dunked it be goaltending?
It's illegal to sit on another players shoulders in open play
I can't help but wonder how much money McClung made for himself on Saturday night. Strike while the iron is hot, Mac.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 20, 2023, 07:25:53 AM
I can't help but wonder how much money McClung made for himself on Saturday night. Strike while the iron is hot, Mac.
I'm guessing not a lot.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 20, 2023, 07:27:24 AM
I'm guessing not a lot.
I suppose that depends on how you define "a lot," but he'll be fielding some offers. Compared to all those guys standing around watching him...yeah, not a lot. Compared to G-League guys who are going to get a couple weeks in the NBA I'd think a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned that into low seven figures in endorsement money.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 20, 2023, 07:33:36 AM
I suppose that depends on how you define "a lot," but he'll be fielding some offers. Compared to all those guys standing around watching him...yeah, not a lot. Compared to G-League guys who are going to get a couple weeks in the NBA I'd think a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned that into low seven figures in endorsement money.
I think that is doubtful unless he becomes more regular on an NBA team. Winning a slam dunk contest will be old news by Friday.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 20, 2023, 07:42:28 AM
I think that is doubtful unless he becomes more regular on an NBA team. Winning a slam dunk contest will be old news by Friday.
Yea, I'm not sure I can remember who won the last 3.
Quote from: panda on February 19, 2023, 04:14:56 PM
It's illegal to sit on another players shoulders in open play
Thank you, Grand Pooba. :)
I am a smarter man today.
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Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 20, 2023, 07:42:28 AM
I think that is doubtful unless he becomes more regular on an NBA team. Winning a slam dunk contest will be old news by Friday.
There are people who never do a damn thing that make good money with various endorsements. This got noticed. The kid had Magic Johnson tweeting that he saved the dunk contest. I see ATL posted below that he signed a Puma deal. I'm sure it's not huge, but it's a start.That obviously was done before the dunk contest. There are a hell of a lot more people who know who he is than there was three days ago. The article linked by ATL says he has 887k insta followers. It's at a million today. He's going to make some money.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 20, 2023, 08:47:12 AM
Yea, I'm not sure I can remember who won the last 3.
I can't. But I'll bet people remember this dunk contest for a while.
I'm not saying he won't make endorsement money. I just don't think it will be "low seven figures." My guess is the shoe deal with Puma is low six figures at best, and that includes merchandise.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 20, 2023, 07:42:28 AM
I think that is doubtful unless he becomes more regular on an NBA team. Winning a slam dunk contest will be old news by Friday.
I think it depends on the remarkability of the win. People talked about Michael Jordan's first dunk contest win for years. I saw a clip of it on TV within the last few weeks.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 20, 2023, 09:33:56 AM
I think it depends on the remarkability of the win. People talked about Michael Jordan's first dunk contest win for years. I saw a clip of it on TV within the last few weeks.
1. Dunk contests meant A LOT more then.
2. He was Michael Jordan
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 20, 2023, 09:41:55 AM
2. He was Michael Jordan
He wasn't Michael Jordan back then. That dunk contest is what first made him a real star.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 20, 2023, 09:45:03 AM
He wasn't Michael Jordan back then. That dunk contest is what first made him a real star.
Not really. He won his first dunk contest in 1987. He had already been frozen out of the All Star game by Isiah, won NBA rookie of the year, dropped 63 on the Celtics during his injury shortened second year, and released two generations of Air Jordans by that time.
Jordan was creating buzz REALLY early in his rookie year. I think what made the old-timers sit up and take notice was the 63 point game in the playoffs.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 20, 2023, 09:33:56 AM
I think it depends on the remarkability of the win. People talked about Michael Jordan's first dunk contest win for years. I saw a clip of it on TV within the last few weeks.
I imagine that's driven a lot by the Jordan's ultimate greatness and his lasting presence on the cultural landscape around the world.
Had MJ faded after that and never accomplished anything of significance, I very much doubt his dunk contest would be spoken of today. He'd be Dee Brown.
Yea, Gordon and Lavine had an amazing dunk contest and I'm not sure how much that lifted their endorsements. Those two are also pretty established NBA players. McClung is less established than Juan Anderson.
Everything I've seen, is Jordan had quite a bit of buzz around him before 1987. The Jordan 1's were really popular and he was Rookie of the Year and an All Star by that time.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 20, 2023, 09:57:48 AM
Not really. He won his first dunk contest in 1987. He had already been frozen out of the All Star game by Isiah, won NBA rookie of the year, dropped 63 on the Celtics during his injury shortened second year, and released two generations of Air Jordans by that time.
Jordan was creating buzz REALLY early in his rookie year. I think what made the old-timers sit up and take notice was the 63 point game in the playoffs.
Yeah ... this was published more than two years before Jordan won a dunk contest.
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Ironically, Mike Dunleavy's look was the same one fans had when he was coaching the Bucks.
McClung won't get generational wealth from this, but IMHO he'll make more money off of it than some might think.
Heck, there are social media influencers making big bucks -- and they didn't win dunk contests. With some marketing help (preferably not from Marquette!), he can parlay this into some nice coin.
It will be short-term $$$, obviously, as his "accomplishment" is very much flavor of the day, but it's something.
As for how much $$$ ... all of us talking about specific money are talking out of our arses here. Nobody here has a clue how much he's already been promised or what he'll end up with out of this. (I include myself in that.)
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 20, 2023, 10:29:25 AM
Yea, Gordon and Lavine had an amazing dunk contest and I'm not sure how much that lifted their endorsements. Those two are also pretty established NBA players. McClung is less established than Juan Anderson.
Everything I've seen, is Jordan had quite a bit of buzz around him before 1987. The Jordan 1's were really popular and he was Rookie of the Year and an All Star by that time.
I said above, McClung isn't going to make "a lot" of money by the standards of guys who are established in the league and having "real" NBA careers. But, for a kid who is a G-Leaguer and likely not every be a particularly successful NBA player, I suspect 20 years from now he'll be able to point back to that dunk contest and will have had "a lot" of income that he never would have had otherwise.
Quote from: MU82 on February 20, 2023, 11:48:15 AM
McClung won't get generational wealth from this, but IMHO he'll make more money off of it than some might think.
That's my point. Someone up thread mentioned that McClung is less established than Juan Anderson. That's undeniably true. And Anderson will make a lot more playing basketball than McClung. But I'd bet that McClung will make a lot more than Anderson in endorsement money over the next few years.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 20, 2023, 09:45:03 AM
He wasn't Michael Jordan back then. That dunk contest is what first made him a real star.
Back in the day in the summer of 85ish time period, there was nightclub that had just opened in mini castle in Chicago, called The Limelight. Some of my friends wanted to go and see the place, when we got in I vividly remember seeing Michael Jordan in there , with Orlando Woolridge . They were laughing and having a good old time and no one was bother them. Yeah Michael was on The Bulls, but he was still of a profile at that point he could be seen in public places like that and not a crazy big deal. It was shortly after that he started taking off to become the celebrity he is now.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 20, 2023, 09:57:48 AM
Not really. He won his first dunk contest in 1987. He had already been frozen out of the All Star game by Isiah, won NBA rookie of the year, dropped 63 on the Celtics during his injury shortened second year, and released two generations of Air Jordans by that time.
Jordan was creating buzz REALLY early in his rookie year. I think what made the old-timers sit up and take notice was the 63 point game in the playoffs.
You are correct. And Jordan was 2/3 of the way through a season in which he averaged 37.1, 5.2 and 4.6. He was already a star. The idea that the dunk contest made him "Michael Jordan" is just not true.