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Title: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 08:17:43 PM
We had 15 offensive rebounds to Xaiver's 4

We win on a night where Kam and OMax score 12 points on 4 of 21 shooting.

We win on a night we go 5 of 22 from 3 point line.

Oso, the 50% FT shooter calmly sinks 2 FTs under 15 seconds left down 1.

Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: mugrad_89 on February 15, 2023, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 08:17:43 PM
We had 15 offensive rebounds to Xaiver's 4

We win on a night where Kam and OMax score 12 points on 4 of 21 shooting.

We win on a night we go 5 of 22 from 3 point line.

Oso, the 50% FT shooter calmly sinks 2 FTs under 15 seconds left down 1.

And only 12-17 from the line - of course two of the makes came in serious crunch time.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: mileskishnish72 on February 15, 2023, 08:19:40 PM
And that's a couple of times Oso has been clutch from the FT line at the end of a game.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Jockey on February 15, 2023, 08:20:46 PM
X outshot us 53% -38%.

Looking at the stats, MU cannot win this game.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: GoFastAndWin on February 15, 2023, 08:22:12 PM
Win Anyway.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 08:22:52 PM
We should add Souley Boum with two bone-headed turnovers in the last 25 seconds of the game...incredibly good fortune for us.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: mugrad_89 on February 15, 2023, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: Jockey on February 15, 2023, 08:20:46 PM
X outshot us 53% -38%.

Looking at the stats, MU cannot win this game.

We forced 17 turnovers vs our 7 - that was the difference.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Daniel on February 15, 2023, 08:23:35 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 08:17:43 PM
We had 15 offensive rebounds to Xaiver's 4

We win on a night where Kam and OMax score 12 points on 4 of 21 shooting.

We win on a night we go 5 of 22 from 3 point line.

Oso, the 50% FT shooter calmly sinks 2 FTs under 15 seconds left down 1.

This.  Is.  Amazing!
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: HowardsWorld on February 15, 2023, 08:24:14 PM
Quote from: Jockey on February 15, 2023, 08:20:46 PM
X outshot us 53% -38%.

Looking at the stats, MU cannot win this game.

Turnovers will do that. X has 10 more than mu
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: muwarrior69 on February 15, 2023, 08:24:45 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 08:22:52 PM
We should add Souley Boum with two bone-headed turnovers in the last 25 seconds of the game...incredibly good fortune for us.

He surly bombed at the end.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: jesmu84 on February 15, 2023, 08:25:07 PM
What were the turnover numbers in the first half?
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Herman Cain on February 15, 2023, 08:25:52 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 08:22:52 PM
We should add Souley Boum with two bone-headed turnovers in the last 25 seconds of the game...incredibly good fortune for us.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Ozmosis on February 15, 2023, 08:27:38 PM
What a grind, but without our "A" game we prevailed.  Thats why you play the full 40.  Can't believe some of the posters on here,,,,  80-40 Xavier someone said early.  And No Longer Warriors, just please go away.  You never have anything intelligent to offer.

Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Jockey on February 15, 2023, 08:27:42 PM
Quote from: HowardsWorld on February 15, 2023, 08:24:14 PM
Turnovers will do that. X has 10 more than mu

Yup. Especially late turnovers.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2023, 08:27:56 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 15, 2023, 08:25:52 PM
I agree with this analysis.

Xavier is freaking tough and really good. 
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: HowardsWorld on February 15, 2023, 08:24:14 PM
Turnovers will do that. X has 10 more than mu

Yep, X with 10 more turnovers, AND 10 fewer Offensive Rebounds...and there you have it.  This game was the epitome of Shaka's culture and mission to "Win anyway." 
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on February 15, 2023, 08:32:58 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 15, 2023, 08:25:07 PM
What were the turnover numbers in the first half?

I think we had 5 TOs with 5-6 minutes left in the first half. Only 2 the rest of the way is outstanding.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: nyg on February 15, 2023, 08:39:09 PM
Mitchell had 17 points, but also had six steals.  That is an overwhelming stat.

Boum is a great player with almost Allen Iverson speed, but Mitchell forced him into 7 turnovers. 
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: connie on February 15, 2023, 08:41:12 PM
Those are crazy numbers
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Scoop Snoop on February 15, 2023, 08:42:04 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 15, 2023, 08:24:45 PM
He surly bombed at the end.

He wasn't surley at all! He very politely scored a ton of points.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: #UnleashSean on February 15, 2023, 09:41:46 PM
F**k em
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 15, 2023, 09:44:06 PM
Winning this game by 1 might be a good thing.

X will stay a Q1 win.

Boat race em by 20 and they may get really knocked to the Q2 bubble
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Goose on February 15, 2023, 09:45:22 PM
MU won a game they easily could have folded and lost. Serious kudos to the guys for getting the win. I don't care if they have their D game as long as they win. That was a great win for the program.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: We R Final Four on February 15, 2023, 09:48:58 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 15, 2023, 09:45:22 PM
MU won a game they easily could have folded and lost. Serious kudos to the guys for getting the win. I don't care if they have their D game as long as they win. That was a great win for the program.
Yes.....even the few times we were up....didnt feel like it.
Up two.....boom down four.
Unbelievable win!
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: BLWarrior91 on February 15, 2023, 09:55:37 PM
Xavier shot 70% from the field in the second half.  Yet we still found a way to win.  Amazing.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Goose on February 15, 2023, 09:58:34 PM
This win might end up being like a good loss late in the season. I think this gives them the confidence to step things up. Time to win March!!
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 15, 2023, 10:00:49 PM
Tonight also guaranteed that we will not be swept by a BE team this year.

Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: MU82 on February 15, 2023, 10:03:59 PM
When Kam was like 0-for-6, I said: "We need Kam to step it up. We can't survive a 2-for-15 game from him."

He finished 2-for-14 ... so no wonder we survived!

Crazy game. I was in a text thread with some MU buddies all night and they are the Muggsy kind (in a good way) who get all frustrated and nervous about every single thing. With about 2 minutes left, one of them says: "Why does Shaka love Prosper so much?" And then when Prosper got the tip, he said, only, "Oh, that's why. I love him now, too!"
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: warriorchick on February 15, 2023, 10:09:22 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 15, 2023, 10:00:49 PM
Tonight also guaranteed that we will not be swept by a BE team this year.

Actually, this is first season since we joined the Big East that we have beaten every team in the conference at least once.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Mutaman on February 15, 2023, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 15, 2023, 08:19:40 PM
And that's a couple of times Oso has been clutch from the FT line at the end of a game.

Like Giannis last night.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Newsdreams on February 15, 2023, 10:13:29 PM
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on February 15, 2023, 09:55:37 PM
Xavier shot 70% from the field in the second half.  Yet we still found a way to win.  Amazing.
Basically won everything else that is important, that is why
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: MuggsyB on February 15, 2023, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 08:17:43 PM
We had 15 offensive rebounds to Xaiver's 4

We win on a night where Kam and OMax score 12 points on 4 of 21 shooting.

We win on a night we go 5 of 22 from 3 point line.


Oso, the 50% FT shooter calmly sinks 2 FTs under 15 seconds left down 1.



Elon, good teams find ways to win on off nights.  This was a gutsy performance and a critical victory when things looked quite dicey. 
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 10:47:19 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 15, 2023, 10:35:56 PM


Elon, good teams find ways to win on off nights.  This was a gutsy performance and a critical victory when things looked quite dicey.

I agree with your analysis Muggsy.  Huge win for the team/program.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: MuggsyB on February 15, 2023, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 10:47:19 PM
I agree with your analysis Muggsy.  Huge win for the team/program.

Mitchell really stepped up tonight.  Granted,  Boum burned him a bunch of times, but his scoring kept us in the gane in the 1st half and he had at least 5 critical hustle plays on the glass and defensively.  What pleased me most is he played with no hesitation.  I felt overall we were really tight tonight and and never really had our flow.   
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: MuggsyB on February 15, 2023, 11:00:20 PM
I don't know if it's been discussed or not in the threads but the stat that jumps out at me, in light of our offensive woes, is we had 7 turnovers tonight. 
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 15, 2023, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 15, 2023, 11:00:20 PM
I don't know if it's been discussed or not in the threads but the stat that jumps out at me, in light of our offensive woes, is we had 7 turnovers tonight.

We had 4 in the first like 8ish minutes too
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: MuggsyB on February 15, 2023, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 15, 2023, 11:02:42 PM
We had 4 in the first like 8ish minutes too

I mean that's incredible if you think about the pace of the game and how seemingly out of sync we were with a lot of overdribbling.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Jay Bee on February 16, 2023, 08:56:37 AM
17.9% eFG% differential (adv X) and we won. It's shocking. (And X had a better FT%, lol)

Obviously I understand why we won, but trying to wrap my mind around how unique it is for a -17.9% eFG% team to win is. Someone want to look it up?

Q is: how many times in the past 5 season has this occurred?
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 16, 2023, 09:25:28 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 16, 2023, 08:56:37 AM
17.9% eFG% differential (adv X) and we won. It's shocking. (And X had a better FT%, lol)

Obviously I understand why we won, but trying to wrap my mind around how unique it is for a -17.9% eFG% team to win is. Someone want to look it up?

Q is: how many times in the past 5 season has this occurred?

It can't be more than a handful of games
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: The Lens on February 16, 2023, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: Goose on February 15, 2023, 09:58:34 PM
This win might end up being like a good loss late in the season. I think this gives them the confidence to step things up. Time to win March!!

And I think we all knew we could win like this.  I never worried about our defensive metrics bc it always seemed like this team had some dog in them.  Tough shooting night?  Character revealed.  We can win a lot of ways. 
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 16, 2023, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: The Lens on February 16, 2023, 10:08:03 AM
And I think we all knew we could win like this.  I never worried about our defensive metrics bc it always seemed like this team had some dog in them.  Tough shooting night?  Character revealed.  We can win a lot of ways.

The defensive metrics definitely don't line up with how I think this team is playing on defense. Definitely agree that a gritty win wasn't a shock. Definitely a huge boost for the team though to see that they can still win even when it felt like every bounce wasn't going their way. Pure heart with the win last night.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Goose on February 16, 2023, 10:19:49 AM
The Lens

I said in another post that I believe defense and grit will be the trademark of this program in the future.
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: Jay Bee on February 16, 2023, 10:22:57 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 16, 2023, 09:25:28 AM
It can't be more than a handful of games

Yes; Can't imagine it being a double-digit number of games. But I don't know the answer
Title: Re: Shocking stats from the win against X
Post by: jesmu84 on February 16, 2023, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 16, 2023, 08:56:37 AM
17.9% eFG% differential (adv X) and we won. It's shocking. (And X had a better FT%, lol)

Obviously I understand why we won, but trying to wrap my mind around how unique it is for a -17.9% eFG% team to win is. Someone want to look it up?

Q is: how many times in the past 5 season has this occurred?

Quote from: pux90mex on February 16, 2023, 02:21:58 PM
Before last night, teams that posted an eFG% under 42% while allowing opponents to put up an eFG% of 57%+ were 0-120 in Big East games since 2008.

Make that 1-121.

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