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Can't go wrong with Oso or Omax. Probably go Oso because I actually had expectations from him. But him being that small to have zero shot is starting to hurt the team. Starting center and you have 1 rebound.
Farley
Nah. Not going to pile on. A large steaming pile of suckage.
Wojo. It all stems from the top down.
XL Center.
UConn had them, at seemingly every position, Marquette didn't.
The numbers on the glass tell you all you need to know- men versus boys.
Onto the next, beat Georgetown and win at home next week and all is forgotten
What if they lose to Georgetown? Will you all believe then or will you still have your heads in the sand?
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 07:55:35 PM
What if they lose to Georgetown? Will you all believe then or will you still have your heads in the sand?
If your aunt had nuts, she'd be your uncle.
I'm excited for the loss this weekend just to see what happens on Scoop.
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 07:52:59 PM
Wojo. It all stems from the top down.
Mrs. Hauser, step away from the keyboard...
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 07:57:45 PM
I'm excited for the loss this weekend just to see what happens on Scoop.
So you're rooting against a team you say you like for some odd personal gratification?
Trolling is enervating for him.
Mods are teh dud
O-Max is playing poorly and that's a major concern. His best game recently was DePaul, and that was mostly stat padding when the game was decided. He had a terrible first half that day.
If he doesn't play better, will be very difficult to do anything of significance rest of the way.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on February 07, 2023, 07:58:02 PM
Panda, no Joplin? It's kinda your move
I only choose to see the good in jop
How about Kam. Did nothing at all and did it very poorly
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 07, 2023, 08:04:52 PM
So you're rooting against a team you say you like for some odd personal gratification?
I cheer for the most entertaining outcome.
Oso, Omax, Kam combined for 11 points, 6 rebounds, 1 assist and 4 turnovers.
Not going to win many when that is the production from 60% of your starting lineup.
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 08:17:52 PM
I cheer for the most entertaining outcome.
So then you aren't actually an MU fan? I mean this is just something you're doing for the hell of it?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 07, 2023, 08:21:10 PM
So then you aren't actually an MU fan? I mean this is just something you're doing for the hell of it?
I might be more of a fan than any of you because I don't excuse them collapsing at the end of every season.
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 08:28:49 PM
I might be more of a fan than any of you because I don't excuse them collapsing at the end of every season.
I don't think I excused it? I suggested an adjustment with my last post.
That wasn't really the question though, by your own admission you're rooting against MU for personal gratification, more power to you for not excusing collapses but given you'd prefer a collapse this isn't fandom correct?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 07, 2023, 08:43:45 PM
I don't think I excused it? I suggested an adjustment with my last post.
That wasn't really the question though, by your own admission you're rooting against MU for personal gratification, more power to you for not excusing collapses but given you'd prefer a collapse this isn't fandom correct?
I'm a 2 time alumni concerned with the pathetic state of a once high level basketball program. How anyone can truly be a fan of what we've had to endure the past decade is beyond me. Of course there is a high overlap between Marquette and Bear fans so you could argue that a high percentage of the fan base just doesn't understand what success actually is.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 07, 2023, 08:10:27 PM
O-Max is playing poorly and that's a major concern. His best game recently was DePaul, and that was mostly stat padding when the game was decided. He had a terrible first half that day.
If he doesn't play better, will be very difficult to do anything of significance rest of the way.
Absence of a positive presence by O-Max was very noticeable.
teams are figuring out Omax, hate to say it and I don't care what the percentages are (haven't looked) the kid can't shoot. his only move is drive to the middle and spin. doesn't work anymore
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 08:47:50 PM
I'm a 2 time alumni concerned with the pathetic state of a once high level basketball program. How anyone can truly be a fan of what we've had to endure the past decade is beyond me. Of course there is a high overlap between Marquette and Bear fans so you could argue that a high percentage of the fan base just doesn't understand what success actually is.
Of course one could also say those bear fans overlap with Hawks and Bulls and Sox and cubs fans and then you'd have to acknowledge they've viewed way more success than the Pack Bucks and Brewers combined of late. We can always pick and choose statements like that to fit an agenda.
Congrats on being a 2 time alum. Was just genuinely curious if you were an actual fan or just on here to $hit talk. Seems like somewhere in between based on the Chicago slight with the two degrees and program concern mention.
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 08:47:50 PM
I'm a 2 time alumni concerned with the pathetic state of a once high level basketball program. How anyone can truly be a fan of what we've had to endure the past decade is beyond me. Of course there is a high overlap between Marquette and Bear fans so you could argue that a high percentage of the fan base just doesn't understand what success actually is.
If I expose you the pitchforks will be out.
How about this-
Try posting when the team actually wins a game and looks good.
Turn that mind upside down.
Lol if you expose me? You all take this too seriously, I've posted plenty when they were good but that was 10 years ago. I also was banned for a year because you all take this too seriously.
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 09:12:27 PM
Lol if you expose me? You all take this too seriously, I've posted plenty when they were good but that was 10 years ago. I also was banned for a year because you all take this too seriously.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oso and O-Max.
We need production from at least one of them. They were both terrible tonight.
Kolek cannot do it by himself. It's usually a bad thing when he leads the team in scoring because that means other guys aren't contributing like they should.
Mods are the dud of the game tonight
OMAX
He's been doing zip, can't shoot.. and is letting the team down
Farley doesn't know ball
Get out of here with this weak a$$ thread.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on February 07, 2023, 10:09:50 PM
Oso and O-Max.
We need production from at least one of them. They were both terrible tonight.
Kolek cannot do it by himself. It's usually a bad thing when he leads the team in scoring because that means other guys aren't contributing like they should.
Some people cannot face reality. Both oso and Omar are not potential NBA studs. They get worked in the paint against big front lines in BEast like UConn
They are average BEast players.
Kam also has done nothing lately
The only player that has carried the load lately is Kolek. That is not enough in BEast
Feb. Fade? We shall see. Hope Shaka can figure something out. Shake things up. Start Gold over Omax See how team responds.
The person that started the thread. Honorable mention to all the people in here piling on.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 08, 2023, 05:01:19 AM
The person that started the thread. Honorable mention to all the people in here piling on.
;D
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 08, 2023, 05:01:19 AM
The person that started the thread. Honorable mention to all the people in here piling on.
If we are allowed to discuss who played well in games we win I don't see why we can't discuss who played poorly in games we lose.
Baylor brought their C game to MU and MU played their A game.
MU brought their C game to UConn and UConn played their A game.
This is how good teams get beat up.
No team plays their A game every game.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 08, 2023, 07:24:26 AM
If we are allowed to discuss who played well in games we win I don't see why we can't discuss who played poorly in games we lose.
Nothing is stopping anyone. The thread isn't locked.
Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2023, 07:28:56 AM
Nothing is stopping anyone. The thread isn't locked.
Only because Rocky has not sobered up after drinking himself into oblivion last night.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 08, 2023, 03:46:45 AM
Some people cannot face reality. Both oso and Omar are not potential NBA studs. They get worked in the paint against big front lines in BEast like UConn
They are average BEast players.
Kam also has done nothing lately
The only player that has carried the load lately is Kolek. That is not enough in BEast
Feb. Fade? We shall see. Hope Shaka can figure something out. Shake things up. Start Gold over Omax See how team responds.
I think starting Gold over Omax is an interesting idea.
I love the 'we're 19-6, so let's shuffle the starting line up' posts.
Quote from: bilsu on February 08, 2023, 07:38:24 AM
I think starting Gold over Omax is an interesting idea.
I would not assume that Ben's performance, as much as I really enjoyed it, was due solely to his own efforts. I think UCONN wrote him off as not being a threat and focused on our starters. So.... disagree.
Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2023, 07:49:34 AM
I love the 'we're 19-6, so let's shuffle the starting line up' posts.
I'd pull Proper's scholarship
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 08, 2023, 07:24:26 AM
If we are allowed to discuss who played well in games we win I don't see why we can't discuss who played poorly in games we lose.
Discuss whatever you like. But if others think it's asinine behavior, don't be offended when you get called out for it.
Fun, high-character thread.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 08, 2023, 08:07:52 AM
Discuss whatever you like. But if others think it's asinine behavior, don't be offended when you get called out for it.
Oh, I'm not offended in the slightest. This thread was pretty mild and you're the one who was seemingly offended by it.
Our fanbase is a bunch of entitled drips.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 08, 2023, 10:06:29 AM
Our fanbase is a bunch of entitled drips.
Oh that's good!
Very good. Now this thread is going to be fun. Time to identify the entitled drips.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 08, 2023, 10:06:29 AM
Our fanbase is a bunch of entitled drips.
That's what many of the national writers think.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 08, 2023, 10:06:29 AM
Our fanbase is a bunch of entitled drips.
so is every fan base
Jake
Many in our fanbase don't know ball. Good news is the program is on the rise, the bad news is that uneducated fans are watching closer. I wish we had "basketball town" mindset with our fanbase and hopefully we will down the road. It is interesting to me that most of the Al guys on here are the most positive on the Shaka program and were the most negative on the Wojo era. My guess is we saw what very good to great basketball looked like in person for over a decade.
I cannot think of one old guy on here that was a Wojo fan, nor one on here that is not wildly optimistic about the Shaka program. My advise to the guys who dislike the MS and other old timers on here, maybe they should listen more about basketball and block out the other noise.
Note--I am not saying that to be a grumpy old man (which I am not) or piss anyone off. I just thought it was interesting that one faction of scoop thinks in a similar way on the game and MU. I would take that as a positive if i was a mope or in the COLE camp.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 08, 2023, 10:06:29 AM
Our fanbase is a bunch of entitled drips.
1. This is probably a good thing.
2. They'll learn, i doubt shaka will always have top 5ish MU teams in school history. Currently still the highest KenPom finish.
ShotQuaility score from last night.
UConn 78- MU 75.
UConn was expected 12 less points on 3 point attempts.
MU was expected 7 less points at the rim.
Mu was expected 6 more points on 3 point attempts.
UConn was expected 5 less points on midrange attempts.
UConn was expected 3 more points on Free throw attempts.
It's a long season. UConn wanted it more, we'll see how Marquette responds. Let's expand the time line before we jump to conclusions (Tom Symkowski has a mat for you).
Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2023, 07:49:34 AM
I love the 'we're 19-6, so let's shuffle the starting line up' posts.
After that beat down, that should happen. Start Gold and see what happens.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 08, 2023, 08:06:43 AM
I'd pull Proper's scholarship
Would that be like you pulling your own chain?
Quote from: Goose on February 08, 2023, 12:01:31 PM
Jake
Many in our fanbase don't know ball. Good news is the program is on the rise, the bad news is that uneducated fans are watching closer. I wish we had "basketball town" mindset with our fanbase and hopefully we will down the road. It is interesting to me that most of the Al guys on here are the most positive on the Shaka program and were the most negative on the Wojo era. My guess is we saw what very good to great basketball looked like in person for over a decade.
I cannot think of one old guy on here that was a Wojo fan, nor one on here that is not wildly optimistic about the Shaka program. My advise to the guys who dislike the MS and other old timers on here, maybe they should listen more about basketball and block out the other noise.
Note--I am not saying that to be a grumpy old man (which I am not) or piss anyone off. I just thought it was interesting that one faction of scoop thinks in a similar way on the game and MU. I would take that as a positive if i was a mope or in the COLE camp.
Goose,
I understand what you are getting at by the comparison but that is a very paternalistic way of thinking.
Whether you were old enough to witness with any sort of memory the Al years in person doesn't automatically put you in a class above "basketball knowing" others who didn't.
Younger guys, like myself but not by much, and even younger have witnessed great college basketball constantly over the years, just not at Marquette as often as we would have liked. From the grade school level on, "team"basketball is more pleasing to the eye and is the known recipe for winning a championship, Al or no Al.
I love your optimism on Shaka and it was right out of the gate. Some others have taken more time to get on board. But I don't think anyone on here who watches basketball a ton doesn't know first hand what winning teams look like.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 08, 2023, 12:53:21 PM
After that beat down, that should happen. Start Gold and see what happens.
Agree 100%, Walter
It's time to quit coddling these players. If Al was still coach (I have my '77 Warriors pennant up in my living room above my Gettleman neon), I guarantee they'd be running laps today until they puked and he'd start the walk-ons at the next home game. Proper needs to be yelled at and I'd probably make Cam Jones shoot 1,000 layups. As for Jaloplin, I'd call his parents and tell them to pick him up
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 09:12:27 PM
I also was banned for a year because you all take this too seriously.
Banned for a full year? What did you do? Link please.
Shooter
I agree with your post and I likely did not word my thoughts correctly. I do not think everyone that saw the Al era knows ball, my Dad was prime example of that. I was talking about the 10+ of us dumb to be on scoop every day. It seems to me that all of us agree 95% on basketball and I think the common theme is we all saw a program ranked in the top for a decade play.
My reference to watching the Al era is the one thing us old guys all of in common. I think it is uncanny that virtually all of us were anti Wojo, Pro Shaka and not guys worrying about the infamous Feb Fade.
In my post the uneducated fans I noted are likely not scoop folks. Rather, the people I see at the grocery store that have been saying "how much fun this team is to watch" and now will be saying "every year they get me excited and disappoint late in the season". IMO, those are casual, uneducated fans.
Lastly, my post was in reference to the "entitled" fans post. I do not think there is one Al era fan on scoop that falls into that camp. We saw it, lived it and hope to see a similar version again at MU.
To your last point, no doubt many know what great basketball looks like, sadly many MU fans have felt MU was not capable of having a great basketball program.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 08, 2023, 01:03:42 PM
Agree 100%, Walter
It's time to quit coddling these players. If Al was still coach (I have my '77 Warriors pennant up in my living room above my Gettleman neon), I guarantee they'd be running laps today until they puked and he'd start the walk-ons at the next home game. Proper needs to be yelled at and I'd probably make Cam Jones shoot 1,000 layups. As for Jaloplin, I'd call his parents and tell them to pick him up
LOL, I know this is part of your schtick, but I'm actually wearing my Gettleman T-shirt as I type this.
Quote from: Goose on February 08, 2023, 12:01:31 PM
Jake
Many in our fanbase don't know ball. Good news is the program is on the rise, the bad news is that uneducated fans are watching closer. I wish we had "basketball town" mindset with our fanbase and hopefully we will down the road. It is interesting to me that most of the Al guys on here are the most positive on the Shaka program and were the most negative on the Wojo era. My guess is we saw what very good to great basketball looked like in person for over a decade.
I cannot think of one old guy on here that was a Wojo fan, nor one on here that is not wildly optimistic about the Shaka program. My advise to the guys who dislike the MS and other old timers on here, maybe they should listen more about basketball and block out the other noise.
Note--I am not saying that to be a grumpy old man (which I am not) or piss anyone off. I just thought it was interesting that one faction of scoop thinks in a similar way on the game and MU. I would take that as a positive if i was a mope or in the COLE camp.
Lol. Oh god. Come on. "We saw what real basketball looked like because we watched Al's teams back in the day! You don't know what good ball is, so keep your opinion to yourself and let us who know ball tell you what it really is!"
The good thing is it isn't 40 years ago. The game has evolved. So have things like the ability to watch other basketball. We've been able to watch Coach K's Duke teams or Roy Williams's UNC teams or Jay Wright's Villanova teams. Crazy, but we have actually seen some pretty good basketball teams more recently than the 1970s.
Get over yourself.
bias
There have been a lot of very good basketball teams and programs over the past 40+ years. Unfortunately, know of them have worn a MU uniform for an extended period of time. Like I said in my follow up post, many have not believed that MU could be a program like Villanova, while some on scoop always believed MU could be like Villanova.
The game has evolved and there are very smart ball folks on scoop and I always appreciate their insight. I have learned some good stuff from the under 45 or so crowd and always read those posters comments. You should try and read their stuff, learning new things is a joy in life.
Quote from: Goose on February 08, 2023, 12:01:31 PM
Jake
Many in our fanbase don't know ball. Good news is the program is on the rise, the bad news is that uneducated fans are watching closer. I wish we had "basketball town" mindset with our fanbase and hopefully we will down the road. It is interesting to me that most of the Al guys on here are the most positive on the Shaka program and were the most negative on the Wojo era. My guess is we saw what very good to great basketball looked like in person for over a decade.
I cannot think of one old guy on here that was a Wojo fan, nor one on here that is not wildly optimistic about the Shaka program. My advise to the guys who dislike the MS and other old timers on here, maybe they should listen more about basketball and block out the other noise.
Note--I am not saying that to be a grumpy old man (which I am not) or piss anyone off. I just thought it was interesting that one faction of scoop thinks in a similar way on the game and MU. I would take that as a positive if i was a mope or in the COLE camp.
This is the most Boomer take of all time. We know more, we're always right, if you don't agree with us then you don't know what you're talking about. 😂😂😂😂
Quote from: withoutbias on February 08, 2023, 01:45:38 PM
Lol. Oh god. Come on. "We saw what real basketball looked like because we watched Al's teams back in the day! You don't know what good ball is, so keep your opinion to yourself and let us who know ball tell you what it really is!"
The good thing is it isn't 40 years ago. The game has evolved. So have things like the ability to watch other basketball. We've been able to watch Coach K's Duke teams or Roy Williams's UNC teams or Jay Wright's Villanova teams. Crazy, but we have actually seen some pretty good basketball teams more recently than the 1970s.
Get over yourself.
he's talking about MU basketball sparky
Quote from: Farley36 on February 08, 2023, 04:41:08 PM
This is the most Boomer take of all time. We know more, we're always right, if you don't agree with us then you don't know what you're talking about. 😂😂😂😂
i see your vermin are leaking oil badly so ya come here to try to dumb down our warriors to feel better
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 08, 2023, 01:03:42 PM
Agree 100%, Walter
It's time to quit coddling these players. If Al was still coach (I have my '77 Warriors pennant up in my living room above my Gettleman neon), I guarantee they'd be running laps today until they puked and he'd start the walk-ons at the next home game. Proper needs to be yelled at and I'd probably make Cam Jones shoot 1,000 layups. As for Jaloplin, I'd call his parents and tell them to pick him up
Gotta say I literally laughed out loud. Funniest post of the year.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 08, 2023, 01:03:42 PM
Agree 100%, Walter
It's time to quit coddling these players. If Al was still coach (I have my '77 Warriors pennant up in my living room above my Gettleman neon), I guarantee they'd be running laps today until they puked and he'd start the walk-ons at the next home game. Proper needs to be yelled at and I'd probably make Cam Jones shoot 1,000 layups. As for Jaloplin, I'd call his parents and tell them to pick him up
Jaloplin, so good. You're like fine wine
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 09, 2023, 07:28:19 AM
i see your vermin are leaking oil badly so ya come here to try to dumb down our warriors to feel better
Look, another Boomer
Quote from: Farley36 on February 09, 2023, 08:38:59 AM
Look, another Boomer
what the hell is a boomer?? esiason? scott? chris is rolling in his grave over your defamation yo
Quote from: Farley36 on February 07, 2023, 07:57:45 PM
I'm excited for the loss this weekend just to see what happens on Scoop.
Once again... just a Pathetic POS. U Don't belong here.