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Title: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: MuggsyB on February 01, 2023, 09:49:33 PM
Excellent job from our guys tonight when things were a bit out of sorts.  I'll just leave it at that. 
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: jesmu84 on February 01, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 01, 2023, 09:49:33 PM
Excellent job from our guys tonight when things were a bit out of sorts.  I'll just leave it at that.

Can you expand more? Is there stuff going on with the team we don't know about?
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: BLWarrior91 on February 01, 2023, 09:55:59 PM
Great point.  The final score doesn't show just what a grind that was. 

Shaka is now 4-0 against Nova since coming to MU.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Herman Cain on February 01, 2023, 09:56:22 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 01, 2023, 09:49:33 PM
Excellent job from our guys tonight when things were a bit out of sorts.  I'll just leave it at that.
Nova is a quality team that could conceivably get hot and win the Big East Tournament.

Winning games like tonight will help build character down the stretch .
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Jockey on February 01, 2023, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 01, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
Can you expand more? Is there stuff going on with the team we don't know about?

He likes starting threads.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 01, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
Freemantle is out for Xavier
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: MuggsyB on February 01, 2023, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 01, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
Can you expand more? Is there stuff going on with the team we don't know about?

I just felt that in general we didn't really have it tonight offensively.  There was no flow and some individual mishaps.  To get this one and seize the last 4 minutes was extremely impressive under the circumstances. 
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: pbiflyer on February 01, 2023, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 01, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
Can you expand more? Is there stuff going on with the team we don't know about?
TK wrote a letter because Jop got SOTG last time.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Daniel on February 01, 2023, 10:00:39 PM
Every win is a great win...... this was a rather ugly win..... but ugly WIN.... So good on MU.... These guys hung tough!
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: MU82 on February 01, 2023, 10:36:04 PM
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on February 01, 2023, 09:55:59 PM
Shaka is now 4-0 against Nova since coming to MU.

He's the Nova coach-killer.

Jay retired rather than having to go up against Shaka any more, and this year's Nova fans are ready to ship Neptune to Uranus. (And you know how painful that can be.)
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Newsdreams on February 02, 2023, 05:41:10 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 01, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
Freemantle is out for Xavier
Thought that was a rumor
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Newsdreams on February 02, 2023, 05:48:46 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on February 01, 2023, 09:59:23 PM
TK wrote a letter because Jop got SOTG last time.
And Kam is upset that he had to give up his knee brace
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 02, 2023, 05:55:07 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 01, 2023, 09:58:53 PM
I just felt that in general we didn't really have it tonight offensively.  There was no flow and some individual mishaps.  To get this one and seize the last 4 minutes was extremely impressive under the circumstances.

right on mugs!  our shooting from the perimeter especially seemed way off despite shooting 37%(respectable) as a team.  it felt more like 30% but TK and stevie saved us.  cam was 2/9, omax was an 0'fer-ouchie!
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 02, 2023, 06:11:11 AM
seems like oso turns down too many shooting opportunities when he's down low(no pun)  also, if his background says he has a little bit of perimeter shooting skills from his h.s days, he needs to pop a few more mid range/freethrow line shots.  the D sags off him so much, he should be working on popping a few of those.  it would really open up a few 3's or breaks to the hoop.  maybe he's saving those for the beast ;)
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Shooter McGavin on February 02, 2023, 07:08:26 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 01, 2023, 09:58:53 PM
I just felt that in general we didn't really have it tonight offensively.  There was no flow and some individual mishaps.  To get this one and seize the last 4 minutes was extremely impressive under the circumstances.

Mugs, it was pretty obvious what you meant with your original post.  I agree they won a grinder and that's impressive.  Hard to be at your best on offense every game even though we've been spoiled all year.  Nova played good defense for the most part but we also missed some open threes we normally make.  I agree with Herman also that this type of win builds and shows character and will be a valuable experience to draw from later in the tournament.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 02, 2023, 07:25:28 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 02, 2023, 06:11:11 AM
seems like oso turns down too many shooting opportunities when he's down low(no pun)  also, if his background says he has a little bit of perimeter shooting skills from his h.s days, he needs to pop a few more mid range/freethrow line shots.  the D sags off him so much, he should be working on popping a few of those.  it would really open up a few 3's or breaks to the hoop.  maybe he's saving those for the beast ;)

Personally, and objectively, I think the offense works just fine the way it is.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: tower912 on February 02, 2023, 07:48:57 AM
Yes, if Oso is not confident in his jump shot, the solution is not to have him go all Ed Morrow and start firing up clanging 15 foot jumpers.   MU's #1 rated offense (#2 after last night?) doesn't need Oso proving his worth by shooting jumpers.


Maybe next year, if Oso does what TKo said he would do next summer.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Shooter McGavin on February 02, 2023, 07:55:56 AM
Still seeing MU as the number one offense on kenpom.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: tower912 on February 02, 2023, 07:57:24 AM
I didn't check.  Purdue had a really good night and I thought they might have nosed in front.    Cool.   
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 02, 2023, 08:01:35 AM
Quote from: tower912 on February 02, 2023, 07:57:24 AM
I didn't check.  Purdue had a really good night and I thought they might have nosed in front.    Cool.

Marquette had 73 points in a 67 possession game, got to the line a lot.  Shooting numbers were bad but not truly awful to nudge them down much
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 02, 2023, 08:05:53 AM
Quote from: tower912 on February 02, 2023, 07:57:24 AM
I didn't check.  Purdue had a really good night and I thought they might have nosed in front.    Cool.

Our overall number dropped a smidge. But we stayed at 1.

Prior to last night there was a bigger gap between us a Bayler(2) than Baylor and the 9th rated offense.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: The Sultan on February 02, 2023, 08:07:45 AM
If Oso starts shooting mid-range, I'm storming the court like that Providence player's brother.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Newsdreams on February 02, 2023, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 02, 2023, 06:11:11 AM
seems like oso turns down too many shooting opportunities when he's down low(no pun)  also, if his background says he has a little bit of perimeter shooting skills from his h.s days, he needs to pop a few more mid range/freethrow line shots.  the D sags off him so much, he should be working on popping a few of those.  it would really open up a few 3's or breaks to the hoop.  maybe he's saving those for the beast ;)
Pretty sure Shaka would not be happy.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: MuggsyB on February 02, 2023, 09:13:22 AM
I understand this team is a year ahead of schedule but I feel we have to take advantage of this group and this season.  There isn't a dominant team, MU absolutely is capable of winning the BEast outright, a 2 or 3 seed, and a deep, deep, run in the NCAA tournament. 

Here is the list of teams that scare me:


















Get greedy, get medieval, take advantage of the situation. and good things hopefully will be in the immediate future.  I truly believe MU's A game stacks up quite well against any team in the country. 
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 02, 2023, 09:13:57 AM
well, of course i mean to make most of them.  remember TK 3's in beginning of season? NOT LIKE THAT!  find a place on the floor and work on a nice mid range shot and make the mofo.  until he can show an ability to make those however, no, please no
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Newsdreams on February 02, 2023, 09:55:11 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 02, 2023, 09:13:57 AM
well, of course i mean to make most of them.  remember TK 3's in beginning of season? NOT LIKE THAT!  find a place on the floor and work on a nice mid range shot and make the mofo.  until he can show an ability to make those however, no, please no
MU coaching staff have said they don't want midrange shots taken.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 02, 2023, 09:57:31 AM
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 02, 2023, 09:55:11 AM
MU coaching staff have said they don't want midrange shots taken.

  huh, no wonder they haven't been returning my calls
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on February 02, 2023, 10:07:42 AM
I for one am happy with the current state of the #1 offense in the country.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 02, 2023, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 02, 2023, 08:07:45 AM
If Oso starts shooting mid-range, I'm storming the court like that Providence player's brother.
But that's what the sweater vests keep asking, really inefficient shots.

Personally I long forward to seeing Oso's Kam-like moon balls next year.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 02, 2023, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 02, 2023, 10:14:22 AM
But that's what the sweater vests keep asking, really inefficient shots.

Personally I long forward to seeing Oso's Kam-like moon balls next year.

Anyone asking for more mid-range jumpers from this team, coached by this staff doesn't know ball, aina?
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: DoctorV on February 02, 2023, 12:51:31 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 02, 2023, 09:13:22 AM
I understand this team is a year ahead of schedule but I feel we have to take advantage of this group and this season.  There isn't a dominant team, MU absolutely is capable of winning the BEast outright, a 2 or 3 seed, and a deep, deep, run in the NCAA tournament. 

Here is the list of teams that scare me:


















Get greedy, get medieval, take advantage of the situation. and good things hopefully will be in the immediate future.  I truly believe MU's A game stacks up quite well against any team in the country.

Hahah well done.

This is a top5 Muggsy post of the season IMO
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: cheebs09 on February 02, 2023, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 02, 2023, 08:07:45 AM
If Oso starts shooting mid-range, I'm storming the court like that Providence player's brother.

Please make sure to call timeout first.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Jockey on February 02, 2023, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 02, 2023, 09:55:11 AM
MU coaching staff have said they don't want midrange shots taken.

Common sense by them because mid-range jumpers are the most inefficient shot there is.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Newsdreams on February 02, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
Quote from: Jockey on February 02, 2023, 01:38:26 PM
Common sense by them because mid-range jumpers are the most inefficient shot there is.
Yes, but people here keep on yearning for midrange shots
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: bilsu on February 02, 2023, 04:45:23 PM
I was never worried about last night's game. Early in the 2nd half I thought we would get our first lead in the last 5 seconds of the game. I watched Villanova lose several games this year in the last two minutes. Villanova is bad, because they cannot finish games. Good teams find ways to win. Underperforming teams find ways to lose.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: mugrad_89 on February 02, 2023, 08:07:02 PM
Quote from: bilsu on February 02, 2023, 04:45:23 PM
I was never worried about last night's game. Early in the 2nd half I thought we would get our first lead in the last 5 seconds of the game. I watched Villanova lose several games this year in the last two minutes. Villanova is bad, because they cannot finish games. Good teams find ways to win. Underperforming teams find ways to lose.

Nova needs a point guard.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: The Thing on February 02, 2023, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 02, 2023, 12:55:18 PM
Please make sure to call timeout first.
Oso seems to have a weird "push" shot when he is in the paint. He does make it a lot but at times when he is back a bit closer to the free throw line it looks awkward. I can't see him being a midrange shooter...especially seeing him clanking free throws all the time. Get it inside, if it doesn't look good throw one of those stellar passes to somebody open.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: statnik on February 02, 2023, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 02, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
Yes, but people here keep on yearning for midrange shots

There will be teams we'll have to be able to make them against so the team will have to prepare for that, but most of the time this philosophy will work quite welll like it has so far this year.
Title: Re: Really Good Teams Find Ways to Win
Post by: Newsdreams on February 03, 2023, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: statnik on February 02, 2023, 10:17:16 PM
There will be teams we'll have to be able to make them against so the team will have to prepare for that, but most of the time this philosophy will work quite welll like it has so far this year.
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