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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 1SE on January 24, 2023, 04:55:45 PM

Title: Elite O vs. D
Post by: 1SE on January 24, 2023, 04:55:45 PM
Taking a look at the KPOM T-25, there are 4 teams with Elite O (and mediocre D):

MU (8) (O1; D 70)
Baylor (13) (O2; D93)
Zags (17) (O3; D90)
X (22) (O6; D97)

and 4 teams with Elite D (and mediocre O)

ISU (12) (O67; D7)
Auburn (16) (O61; D10)
Rutgers (20) (O126; D4)
BSU (25) (O90; D9)

I know which group I think will rack up more NCAAT wins... 
Title: Re: Elite O vs. D
Post by: mugrad_89 on January 24, 2023, 05:01:22 PM
Quote from: 1SE on January 24, 2023, 04:55:45 PM
Taking a look at the KPOM T-25, there are 4 teams with Elite O (and mediocre D):

MU (8) (O1; D 70)
Baylor (13) (O2; D93)
Zags (17) (O3; D90)
X (22) (O6; D97)

and 4 teams with Elite D (and mediocre O)

ISU (12) (O67; D7)
Auburn (16) (O61; D10)
Rutgers (20) (O126; D4)
BSU (25) (O90; D9)

I know which group I think will rack up more NCAAT wins...

The teams that play at a slower pace definitely have a smaller margin for error.
Title: Re: Elite O vs. D
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 24, 2023, 05:09:36 PM
Well, best I can tell (feel free to correct), there has been a single match-up this season between those 4O and 4D teams, with ISU (at home) beating Baylor by 15.

Not so sure I'm as on-board with your analysis. Of course...Hilton magic and all...

Title: Re: Elite O vs. D
Post by: wadesworld on January 24, 2023, 05:13:27 PM
National champion's adjusted tempo since the start of KenPom (most recent to oldest): 65, 213, 353, 225, 40, 274, 104, 254, 116, 150, 184, 229, 6, 109, 162, 194, 7, 75, 32, 15

Average: 140

A lot of high numbers in terms of tempo in the top 10 of KenPom each year.  Basically the only team to have a tempo in the top 100 to win a national title in the past decade and a half are Kansas last year and UNC teams.
Title: Re: Elite O vs. D
Post by: Newsdreams on January 24, 2023, 05:37:44 PM
Quote from: 1SE on January 24, 2023, 04:55:45 PM
Taking a look at the KPOM T-25, there are 4 teams with Elite O (and mediocre D):

MU (8) (O1; D 70)
Baylor (13) (O2; D93)
Zags (17) (O3; D90)
X (22) (O6; D97)

and 4 teams with Elite D (and mediocre O)

ISU (12) (O67; D7)
Auburn (16) (O61; D10)
Rutgers (20) (O126; D4)
BSU (25) (O90; D9)

I know which group I think will rack up more NCAAT wins...
Crapshoot!
Title: Re: Elite O vs. D
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 24, 2023, 06:00:42 PM
Last years Sweet 16

Team (adj o & adj d)

Gonzaga (3, 10)
Arkansas (53,11)
Texas Tech (42, 1)
Duke (1, 49)
UNC (18, 35)
UCLA (12, 16)
Purdue (2, 93)
St. Peter's (231, 25)
Zona (7, 21)
Houston (10, 8)
Michigan (21, 74)
Nova (9, 23)
Kansas (6, 17)
Dence (36, 44)
TJO (171, 5)
Miami (19, 107)

10 top-20 offenses (and the 21st)
7 top-20 defenses (and the 23rd and 25th)

I dunno.  Crapshoot
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