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Title: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 07:35:04 AM
It's a thing of beauty when that thing drops straight down and tickles the twine.  I also look at it a little bit like a show-stopping hammer flush aesthetically.  That said, is that much of an increase in his arc making him a better shooter? Or potentially a better shooter at the NBA level?  It seems to me hitting that with consistency might be more difficult? 
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: The Sultan on January 23, 2023, 07:38:11 AM
Kam's problem is the long release - not how high the shot goes.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 07:40:33 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 23, 2023, 07:38:11 AM
Kam's problem is the long release - not how high the shot goes.

Problem in what sense?  That he needs to get it off more quickly?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 23, 2023, 07:54:32 AM
Brings back memories of the Running Rebels in the 90s.  Wasn't it Anderson Hunt that had big arc?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: The Sultan on January 23, 2023, 08:05:03 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 07:40:33 AM
Problem in what sense?  That he needs to get it off more quickly?

Sorry...problem for the NBA. He will need to get it off more quickly yes.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Herman Cain on January 23, 2023, 08:32:10 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 07:35:04 AM
It's a thing of beauty when that thing drops straight down and tickles the twine.  I also look at it a little bit like a show-stopping hammer flush aesthetically.  That said, is that much of an increase in his arc making him a better shooter? Or potentially a better shooter at the NBA level?  It seems to me hitting that with consistency might be more difficult?
Scuse me while I kiss the sky....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoDaYjdfSg
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 23, 2023, 09:51:46 AM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 23, 2023, 07:54:32 AM
Brings back memories of the Running Rebels in the 90s.  Wasn't it Anderson Hunt that had big arc?

Think it was fellow lefty Stacy Augmon..
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Goose on January 23, 2023, 09:59:42 AM
Elon

It was Augmon and he was fun to watch. Absolutely loved those Vegas teams.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 23, 2023, 10:57:45 AM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 23, 2023, 09:51:46 AM
Think it was fellow lefty Stacy Augmon..

Think Hunt was a righty. PG (Anthony) was a lefty, though, as was Augmon.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MU82 on January 23, 2023, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: Goose on January 23, 2023, 09:59:42 AM
Elon

It was Augmon and he was fun to watch. Absolutely loved those Vegas teams.

Our own "Plastic Man"!
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Nukem2 on January 23, 2023, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 23, 2023, 08:05:03 AM
Sorry...problem for the NBA. He will need to get it off more quickly yes.
Dont know that it's a slow release so much as a very low release point? Either would be a problem in the NBA.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 03:24:58 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 23, 2023, 08:32:10 AM
Scuse me while I kiss the sky....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoDaYjdfSg

Shouldn't we consider playing that at Fiserv every time Kam drops a high arcing triple?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 23, 2023, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 03:24:58 PM
Shouldn't we consider playing that at Fiserv every time Kam drops a high arcing triple?

That and scream "Jop Drop!!!" When Joplin hits a three
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: StillAWarrior on January 23, 2023, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 03:24:58 PM
Shouldn't we consider playing that at Fiserv every time Kam drops a high arcing triple?

That would be awesome...just that initial four-note lick.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 03:52:46 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 23, 2023, 03:42:42 PM
That would be awesome...just that initial four-note lick.

Yep....that should be considered imo.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Goose on January 23, 2023, 03:58:46 PM
Muggsy

Back in the day another lefty, Gary Rosenberger, had a very high arch to his outside shooting as well. He played a long time ago and going from memory, but think Kam gets a bit more hang time that Rosy got in the '70's.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 23, 2023, 04:01:58 PM
Kam Big East Player Of The Week
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: tower912 on January 23, 2023, 04:12:25 PM
More obscure, but the chorus of Counting Crows

... I am the rain king....
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Jockey on January 23, 2023, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Goose on January 23, 2023, 03:58:46 PM
Muggsy

Back in the day another lefty, Gary Rosenberger, had a very high arch to his outside shooting as well. He played a long time ago and going from memory, but think Kam gets a bit more hang time that Rosy got in the '70's.

Wasn't Rosey a left-hander as well? At least that's the way I remember him. One of the few guys that Al gave the green light to shoot whenever he was open.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Jockey on January 23, 2023, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2023, 04:12:25 PM
More obscure, but the chorus of Counting Crows

... I am the rain king....

From the only great CD that they put out.

But there is a bigger margin for error with the high arc.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MU82 on January 23, 2023, 06:23:28 PM
Larry Bird had some serious arc to his 3s, too.

Still, of all the ex-players mentioned here so far, I'm really not sure any of them threw it as high as Kam's does. It's really something to behold when he's got it rollin'!
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Mutaman on January 23, 2023, 06:51:02 PM
Quote from: Goose on January 23, 2023, 03:58:46 PM
Muggsy

Back in the day another lefty, Gary Rosenberger, had a very high arch to his outside shooting as well. He played a long time ago and going from memory, but think Kam gets a bit more hang time that Rosy got in the '70's.

Didn't Al call it a "suburban jump shot"?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 23, 2023, 06:54:50 PM
Quote from: Jockey on January 23, 2023, 06:15:38 PM
Wasn't Rosey a left-hander as well? At least that's the way I remember him. One of the few guys that Al gave the green light to shoot whenever he was open.

You remember correctly.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 23, 2023, 06:58:25 PM
Quote from: Jockey on January 23, 2023, 06:17:25 PM
From the only great CD that they put out.


True.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Mutaman on January 23, 2023, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 23, 2023, 08:32:10 AM
Scuse me while I kiss the sky....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoDaYjdfSg

Are You Experienced just might be the most revolutionary album ever created. Nobody had ever heard anything like it. I saw Jimi at the Factory in Madison when he was on the promotional tour, and it was like seeing and hearing someone from another planet.   
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Goose on January 23, 2023, 07:41:49 PM
Rosy was a big time shooter. He needed some room, but big range for the '70's. He changed a lot of games by hitting some bombs.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 08:03:24 PM
Quote from: Goose on January 23, 2023, 07:41:49 PM
Rosy was a big time shooter. He needed some room, but big range for the '70's. He changed a lot of games by hitting some bombs.

MU has had some snipers Goose.  I'm hoping we can increase our overall 3pt percentage and believe we can.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Herman Cain on January 13, 2024, 02:33:32 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 23, 2023, 07:35:04 AM
It's a thing of beauty when that thing drops straight down and tickles the twine.  I also look at it a little bit like a show-stopping hammer flush aesthetically.  That said, is that much of an increase in his arc making him a better shooter? Or potentially a better shooter at the NBA level?  It seems to me hitting that with consistency might be more difficult?
Muggsy:

We need Kam to reinstitute his Kiss the Sky J. Seemed to do better with it . It also Demoralizes the opponents when it goes in.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: 79Warrior on January 13, 2024, 07:37:10 PM
Quote from: Goose on January 23, 2023, 07:41:49 PM
Rosy was a big time shooter. He needed some room, but big range for the '70's. He changed a lot of games by hitting some bombs.

Great guy also. Man, he would have killed it if there was a 3 point line back then.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MuggsyB on January 14, 2024, 08:40:56 AM
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 13, 2024, 02:33:32 PM
Muggsy:

We need Kam to reinstitute his Kiss the Sky J. Seemed to do better with it . It also Demoralizes the opponents when it goes in.

I'm completely lost as to why he has struggled so much the last 5 games but we need the young man to figure it out Herman. 
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: The Sultan on January 14, 2024, 08:47:38 AM
The kiss the sky 3 was worse than whatever he was doing his freshman year.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MU82 on January 14, 2024, 08:52:10 AM
Kam's non-sky-kissing J was hitting at a .443 clip through the first 11 games. That's a far better percentage than when his J was kissing the sky as a sophomore.

So the-first-11-games J is what we need from him. Not sure if the necessary adjustments would be physical or psychological.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2024, 09:24:50 AM
He's hurt
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MuggsyB on January 14, 2024, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2024, 09:24:50 AM
He's hurt

What?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2024, 09:31:50 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 14, 2024, 09:30:27 AM
What?

He's hurt.  He's playing through an injury
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MuggsyB on January 14, 2024, 09:36:54 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2024, 09:31:50 AM
He's hurt.  He's playing through an injury

What injury?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2024, 09:42:46 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 14, 2024, 09:36:54 AM
What injury?

Bunch of nagging stuff
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 14, 2024, 01:54:01 PM
Uncle,  that would make sense.  You hearing anything on kolek on the injury front as well?  He doesn't seem to have the same energy on the court either. Injuries can suck the life out of players.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Nukem2 on January 14, 2024, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on January 14, 2024, 01:54:01 PM
Uncle,  that would make sense.  You hearing anything on kolek on the injury front as well?  He doesn't seem to have the same energy on the court either. Injuries can suck the life out of players.
I would proffer that Tyler's case has more to do with frustration? He is obviously being closely guarded while he is getting the ball to his teammates in good scoring position, but they are missing those open shots created by a Tyler.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2024, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on January 14, 2024, 01:54:01 PM
Uncle,  that would make sense.  You hearing anything on kolek on the injury front as well?  He doesn't seem to have the same energy on the court either. Injuries can suck the life out of players.

I'm not sure what Kolek's deal is.  Kam has been playing hurt since UCLA
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 14, 2024, 02:26:52 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2024, 09:42:46 AM
Bunch of nagging stuff

So not an injury, a bunch of injuries?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 14, 2024, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2024, 02:16:54 PM
I'm not sure what Kolek's deal is.  Kam has been playing hurt since UCLA

Thanks. Appreciate the information. 

There are times he has had an irritated look on his face during a clock stoppage.  I thought maybe he was irritated with a player on the other team for a physical play several times.  Maybe that has been an I'm in pain look more than anything.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MU82 on January 14, 2024, 03:17:46 PM
Can't remember which game it was, but in one of them Kam limped off the court in the first minute. Later came back and played fine IIRC, but I've wondered since then if he's battling some kind of residual injury.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2024, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 14, 2024, 03:17:46 PM
Can't remember which game it was, but in one of them Kam limped off the court in the first minute. Later came back and played fine IIRC, but I've wondered since then if he's battling some kind of residual injury.

Believe that was the Providence game
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: romey on January 15, 2024, 10:23:06 PM
I was at the game today. I sat next to an NBA scout who said he was there to watch Tyler. In fact near the end of the game I asked if he was headed back home. He said he was having dinner with Tyler and his family. But he was very impressed with Kam. Said he's f'n good. Very nice guy asked about Stevie too.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 16, 2024, 12:44:45 AM
Quote from: romey on January 15, 2024, 10:23:06 PM
I was at the game today. I sat next to an NBA scout who said he was there to watch Tyler. In fact near the end of the game I asked if he was headed back home. He said he was having dinner with Tyler and his family. But he was very impressed with Kam. Said he's f'n good. Very nice guy asked about Stevie too.

Which team?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: DoctorV on January 16, 2024, 08:57:48 AM
Quote from: romey on January 15, 2024, 10:23:06 PM
I was at the game today. I sat next to an NBA scout who said he was there to watch Tyler. In fact near the end of the game I asked if he was headed back home. He said he was having dinner with Tyler and his family. But he was very impressed with Kam. Said he's f'n good. Very nice guy asked about Stevie too.

He was probably there to see Oso 😂

One big run to the FF and methinks they will all head to the Association.

One 1st rounder (Oso) and two 2nd rounders, with one possibly going undrafted and getting immediately signed as a FA.

In the case above we will all be happy because of where they took us, and Shaka will have a big re-loading offseason with a few highly ranked portal guys.
Best case scenario for all imo
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: The Sultan on January 16, 2024, 09:05:36 AM
Scouts scout A LOT of guys - and not just to be drafted.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: romey on January 16, 2024, 09:53:39 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 16, 2024, 12:44:45 AM
Which team?
Independent service apparently. I asked him who he "worked for" and he said proservices, or prospectives or something like that. He was in town from Miami. Has a partner in LA. He wasn't enjoying the weather.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 16, 2024, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: romey on January 16, 2024, 09:53:39 AM
Independent service apparently. I asked him who he "worked for" and he said proservices, or prospectives or something like that. He was in town from Miami. Has a partner in LA. He wasn't enjoying the weather.

We had a Lakers' scout by us. Was focusing on Oso vs. Dixon matchup. I wanted to get a look at his phone software as he was logging data all game.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: romey on January 16, 2024, 01:48:42 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 16, 2024, 11:23:54 AM
We had a Lakers' scout by us. Was focusing on Oso vs. Dixon matchup. I wanted to get a look at his phone software as he was logging data all game.

same - he made/took a call or two in addition to logging data.
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: MU82 on January 16, 2024, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 16, 2024, 11:23:54 AM
We had a Lakers' scout by us. Was focusing on Oso vs. Dixon matchup. I wanted to get a look at his phone software as he was logging data all game.

Given that Oso was gliding past Dixon to dunk all game long, that's fortunate for Oso!
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Herman Cain on November 24, 2024, 11:02:41 AM
Has Kam's Kiss The Sky J been retired? Or just keeping it in reserve given all the face guarding Kam has faced ?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: The Sultan on November 24, 2024, 11:04:59 AM
Quote from: Herman Cain on November 24, 2024, 11:02:41 AMHas Kam's Kiss The Sky J been retired? Or just keeping it in reserve given all thr face guarding Kam has faced ?

Did you not watch the team last year?
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 24, 2024, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 24, 2024, 11:04:59 AMDid you not watch the team last year?

He hasn't watched a Marquette game in at least 30 years
Title: Re: Kam's Kiss the Sky J
Post by: Newsdreams on November 24, 2024, 02:56:36 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 24, 2024, 11:30:00 AMHe hasn't watched a Marquette game in at least 30 years
He is dead
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