I just want to beat the rush.
IF Marquette wins in Joisey on Saturday, they WILL win a BIG EAST CHAMPIONSHIP in Shakas second year.
Don't @ me
BET Championship would be great
But I would much rather have wins in the NCAAT
Why can't we have both?
Quote from: DoctorV on January 18, 2023, 10:35:22 PM
I just want to beat the rush.
IF Marquette wins in Joisey on Saturday, they WILL win a BIG EAST CHAMPIONSHIP in Shakas second year.
Don't @ me
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It's only the current math, but both kenpom and Torvik project us as outright Big East champs.
After Saturday, I would argue that we've played 7/10 (CREI, @PROV, @NOVA, UCONN, @X, PROV, @Hall) and 9/13 (add HALL and @SJU) of the toughest games in our conference schedule. I think the back half contains the 6 easiest games of the conference season besides GTWN at home. I'd need to check, but I doubt any other team has as soft as second half conference schedule as us.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 19, 2023, 12:00:12 AM
After Saturday, I would argue that we've played 7/10 (CREI, @PROV, @NOVA, UCONN, @X, PROV, @Hall) and 9/13 (add HALL and @SJU) of the toughest games in our conference schedule. I think the back half contains the 6 easiest games of the conference season besides GTWN at home. I'd need to check, but I doubt any other team has as soft as second half conference schedule as us.
Get back to us when you've checked.
Soft or not, win in Saturday and start gathering the goods.
Early onions if you will. Enjoy the ride
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 18, 2023, 11:50:55 PM
It's only the current math, but both kenpom and Torvik project us as outright Big East champs.
I always loved math
Quote from: DoctorV on January 19, 2023, 12:06:51 AM
Get back to us when you've checked.
Soft or not, win in Saturday and start gathering the goods.
Early onions if you will. Enjoy the ride
Per Torvik, our remaining conference schedule strength is second to Providence. They already played at MU, Creighton, & SHU while hosting UConn and Hall.
I still see 4 more losses. I don't think 14-6 will do it. A really good season, but I doubt regular season championship good.
Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2023, 08:02:32 AM
I still see 4 more losses. I don't think 14-6 will do it. A really good season, but I doubt regular season championship good.
18-2
Not as good as a 20-2 streak. ;D
tower
I am not sure on four more losses, but not out of the question. Last night was a very big win and Saturday is equally as important. Road win against a good team will go a long way. I said earlier this week, I am hoping they get to the 8 win mark in the final 12 in short order and go from there. I am less worried about a bad loss this year than I was a year ago.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 18, 2023, 11:50:55 PM
It's only the current math, but both kenpom and Torvik project us as outright Big East champs.
I love math crunchers, but any system that has UConn at #7 this morning after losing 5 of 6 is not firing on all cylinders.
https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Connecticut
Goose, most teams have a couple of outlier road stumbles. See: Xavier at Depaul. I assume MU will not be immune to that. If they are, then they probably win the regular season title.
@ Seton Hall
@ Creighton
@ Uconn
Xavier rematch
I don't think MU loses all of those. But they probably lose a couple. 1 or 2 random road goofs.
Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2023, 08:18:15 AM
Goose, most teams have a couple of outlier road stumbles. See: Xavier at Depaul. I assume MU will not be immune to that. If they are, then they probably win the regular season title.
@ Seton Hall
@ Creighton
@ Uconn
Xavier rematch
I don't think MU lose sall of those. But they probably lose a couple. 1 or 2 random road goofs.
It's a reasonable take. Even a likely outcome. And yet I know that the day of each game, I will believe we will win that day's/night's game. And it won't be a pie-in-the-sky belief, either. It will be a Marquette-is-effen-good belief.
tower
Those four are obviously the tough ones and we can lose all of them or a game to lower team in the BE. I just think that as a rule that they are much better than the lower teams than they were a year ago. Plus, this team seems to have must win attitude more than last year. I said on Monday that 8-4 or 9-3 was the most likely outcome, but last night was one I thought possibly could slip away. At this point I think it is game to game and see how it plays out.
That said, I think winning the BE will be a very difficult task. I still think Creighton will make a lot of noise and X is very good, even with the loss last night.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 19, 2023, 12:00:12 AM
After Saturday, I would argue that we've played 7/10 (CREI, @PROV, @NOVA, UCONN, @X, PROV, @Hall) and 9/13 (add HALL and @SJU) of the toughest games in our conference schedule. I think the back half contains the 6 easiest games of the conference season besides GTWN at home. I'd need to check, but I doubt any other team has as soft as second half conference schedule as us.
For one thing, Xavier has played none of its road games against MU, PC, Creighton, or UConn, and hasn't played PC at all.
That having been said, results of the last few days have highlighted that there are no sure things, especially on the road. Home teams in BE games so far this year have won 31 of 46. That rate is significantly higher than it has been over the last several years.
I still see 14-6 as a target landing spot for this MU team. I'll reevaluate that if they can cap off this challenging week and a half with a road win over a more than capable Seton Hall team.
Quote from: wisblue on January 19, 2023, 09:31:14 AM
For one thing, Xavier has played none of its road games against MU, PC, Creighton, or UConn, and hasn't played PC at all.
That having been said, results of the last few days have highlighted that there are no sure things, especially on the road. Home teams in BE games so far this year have won 31 of 46. That rate is significantly higher than it has been over the last several years.
I still see 14-6 as a target landing spot for this MU team. I'll reevaluate that if they can cap off this challenging week and a half with a road win over a more than capable Seton Hall team.
X fans were afraid of their away gauntlet when talking with them last Sunday.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 19, 2023, 09:37:29 AM
X fans were afraid of their away gauntlet when talking with them last Sunday.
They obviously had reason to be afraid.
Especially of their Feb. 15 date.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 19, 2023, 08:16:15 AM
I love math crunchers, but any system that has UConn at #7 this morning after losing 5 of 6 is not firing on all cylinders.
https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Connecticut
Disagree because those take the whole of the season equally. UConn won their first 13 by double digits. That weights heavier than what they've done in their last 6.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 19, 2023, 09:49:34 AM
Disagree because those take the whole of the season equally. UConn won their first 13 by double digits. That weights heavier than what they've done in their last 6.
Those games are the equivalent of 500 basketball seasons ago!
That's before the game was invented. Heck, the internet wasn't even invented when they played those games.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2023, 08:02:54 AM
18-2
No chance to get the double OT loss @ Prov reversed?
COLE
Bump.
In before the lock.
8-)
Personal story time as we get warmed up to the reality that one of these might be a possibility...
In 2013 on a Saturday afternoon in March I rushed out of the office to the nearest BDubs to watch Vander Blue score a game winning basket that would give Marquette its first, and only, BE title.
I sat at that BDubs, solo amongst a crowd of less than 25, with tears in my eyes.
Thank you Vander Blue, Buzz Williams, and the entire 2012/13 squad.
10 years later, lets go now!
MU is in the pole position to win the BEast. This was a huge one tonight because we really didn't play great and Nova controlled tempo. We got to the FT line but we were nowhere near our normal offensive efficiency. Honestly, I think we would be the favorites if Freemantle did not get hurt. And I'll tell you something else: we should have zero fear whatsoever at UCONN or Creighton. I'm biased but I have no doubt we're better than both of those teams, even on the road.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 01, 2023, 11:12:03 PM
MU is in the pole position to win the BEast. This was a huge one tonight because we really didn't play great and Nova controlled tempo. We got to the FT line but we were nowhere near our normal offensive efficiency. Honestly, I think we would be the favorites if Freemantle did not get hurt. And I'll tell you something else: we should have zero fear whatsoever at UCONN or Creighton. I'm biased but I have no doubt we're better than both of those teams, even on the road.
Yes.
Muggsy don't be dejected.
Even the best offensive team in the land can struggle.
Defense was legit, and that's was matters tonight.
Marquette is better than both those teams, and can win on the road.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 18, 2023, 11:50:55 PM
It's only the current math, but both kenpom and Torvik project us as outright Big East champs.
Well....its settled then.
Only forsure loss I see left is @Creighton
Vs X and @UConn are probably tossups
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 01, 2023, 11:19:42 PM
Only forsure loss I see left is @Creighton
Vs X and @UConn are probably tossups
I actually think at Uconn is gonna be tougher, but I also thought we wouldnt beat Uconn at all so theres that.
Creighton will be really really tough, I just think we do match up with them though.
I expect to beat X at home and all the other "easier" games. So 16-4 is still my hope.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 01, 2023, 11:23:06 PM
I actually think at Uconn is gonna be tougher, but I also thought we wouldnt beat Uconn at all so theres that.
Creighton will be really really tough, I just think we do match up with them though.
I expect to beat X at home and all the other "easier" games. So 16-4 is still my hope.
Agreed......@ UCONN will be a dog......@ Crei will be a fun game.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 01, 2023, 11:19:42 PM
Only forsure loss I see left is @Creighton
Vs X and @UConn are probably tossups
I'm actually pretty confident about the game at Creighton, less so about the one at UConn but I think both are winnable.
I wish I could travel to Omaha for that game Feb21, because something tells me that night might be a memorable one.
Currently the favorite
https://www.sportsbetting21.com/major-events/final-four-betting
Quote from: DoctorV on February 01, 2023, 10:42:37 PM
Bump.
In before the lock.
8-)
Personal story time as we get warmed up to the reality that one of these might be a possibility...
In 2013 on a Saturday afternoon in March I rushed out of the office to the nearest BDubs to watch Vander Blue score a game winning basket that would give Marquette its first, and only, BE title.
I sat at that BDubs, solo amongst a crowd of less than 25, with tears in my eyes.
Thank you Vander Blue, Buzz Williams, and the entire 2012/13 squad.
10 years later, lets go now!
Jinxed it
Doctor V
I was in China when Vander and MU won the title, and I danced around my room. I have to be honest, I am far more excited about this team and that is saying a lot. This may end up being a season that is talked about for decades.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 01, 2023, 11:19:42 PM
Only forsure loss I see left is @Creighton
Vs X and @UConn are probably tossups
I don't think Creighton is a for sure loss, but it feels like the most likely loss left on the schedule. But even with Kalkbrenner back, they aren't a great offensive rebounding team (#204 nationally since his return) and are only average protecting the ball (#75 TO rate since his return). They also allow a higher percentage of points from inside the arc than any other team in the country.
It'll be tough, but there are areas we can exploit.
It is good to see the Western teams at the top of the standings with MU at the peak for a change.
BUMP.
Down 8 at HT. Up 10 with 8 minutes left.
Championship Pedigree.
Work to be done.
WE ARE MARQUETTE!!!
Doctor
This team has nuts. Six more weeks of work ahead.
Quote from: Goose on February 21, 2023, 10:28:03 PM
Doctor
This team has nuts. Six more weeks of work ahead.
I love this.
Bump.
BIG EAST CHAMPIONS!!!
Miss you dad!
I wish my dad was here to celebrate this one with me, but I'm confident he's enjoying it from up above.
Love this season.
Proud of the fellas, proud of Coach Smart.
WE ARE MARQUETTE!
Work to be done.