I think Kam due to clutch scoring to keep a bit of cushion. Kolek great too and clutch free throws.
Kam Jones. When it was 70-65 and Providence had the ball. Jones got a key steal, followed my a huge 3 on the next possession.
That cemented MU's position.
Kam Jones
Kam gets his first.
Kam.
He had the big buckets all second half.
Finally, Kam.
Kolek was great, too.
Kam gets on the board.
Kolek or Wade
Kam
Pop the cherry
Kam clear winner. Carried us through a tough stretch in the second half.
Kolek second for icing it at the line.
Shaka calling a timeout just to get in the official's ear in the 2nd
Quote from: forgetful on January 18, 2023, 10:18:31 PM
Kam Jones. When it was 70-65 and Providence had the ball. Jones got a key steal, followed my a huge 3 on the next possession.
That cemented MU's position.
This.....and he hit another huge three before that.
Kam made the big shots to stem every Providence run.
Kam all the way.
Kameron Jones
Honorable Mention
Tyler Kolek
I'll go Kam.
Kolek has a case.
Tan Tommy with an honorable mention; we went on a nice run when he's was talking to the announcers in the first half.
Kolek 19, 8 and 6
Kam 21, 4 and 3.
Great game by Kam, but it's TK by a nose.
Kam saved us tonight. We had a rough final 8 mins.
I wasn't sure who I was going to vote for until I saw Kam continually leaning into the TV shot behind Shaka's post game interview with a $hit eating grin. Definitely Kam for SOTG
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 18, 2023, 10:26:48 PM
Kolek 19, 8 and 6
Kam 21, 4 and 3.
Great game by Kam, but it's TK by a nose.
Tyler with a stat stuffing game.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 18, 2023, 10:26:48 PM
Kolek 19, 8 and 6
Kam 21, 4 and 3.
Great game by Kam, but it's TK by a nose.
Agree, TK
Kam is the Man tonight!
I was thinking Kam with his 3's and drives past bigs, but I've got to go with Kolek.
19, our leading rebounder, and our leader is assists.
Don't want to deny Kam passing Joey, but I thought TK deserved it.
There's your SOTG
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 18, 2023, 10:34:46 PM
There's your SOTG
That was fantastic. I was thinking Kam anyway, but that definitely ices it.
Leaning Kolek, but Kam's deserving too.
Kam ! ! ! 8-)
Kolek, but you could give it to Kam or Oso too and its not wrong
Kam
Really great team effort.
I'm going with Kam as he hit a couple of huge shots to return the momentum to us.
But Kolek was huge down the stretch making those free throws.
Kolek. 8 rebounds, 8 free throws to ice it. Plus, smarts to call a time out when trapped and falling.
Kam wasn't really a factor in the 1st half I thought. Only three points.
Tyler brought it all game, adjusted nicely with the right hand from the Xavier game. KPom agrees.
TK
Kam was the man tonight, and I liked him photobombing Shaka too lol
Probably TK, but Kam because he deserves one.
Hard not to give it to Kolek with 19, 8, and 6...but Kam did seem to hit the big shots when we needed him to. I also appreciated Shaka's postgame where he said that Kam called an OOB play for himself and Shaka went with it and it led to a 3. Still, I think TKO had the better game.
Of course we can't give it to him because he wasn't the lead scorer ;D
In the post game, Shaka said Kam motioned to him and called that out-of-bounds play that led to the three for himself. Not something he usually does. I vote Clutch Kam.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 18, 2023, 11:44:38 PM
In the post game, Shaka said Kam motioned to him and called that out-of-bounds play that led to the three for himself. Not something he usually does. I vote Clutch Kam.
That play was awesome
PC cut it to 6, then Kam scored or assisted 13 of the next 15 Marquette points. Incredible stretch for him.
Kam Jones had 3 steals a huge steal and score and clutch 3s late
Red Auerbach said Defense wins championships but he also said the most important skill is shooting.
Tyler Kolek honorable mention
Kolek's FTs down the stretch don't happen if Kam doesn't put the team on his back throughout the middle third of the second half. Give the man his SOTG.
Kolek.
Another tough one and that is a good problem. Taking emotion out of it, I go with Kolek. Putting emotion into decision, the photo bomb gives the nod to Kam. I think Kolek was all around better player tonight.
I am a huge fan ok TK, but it has got to be Kam for keeping this game from getting dicey at the end.
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on January 18, 2023, 11:57:01 PM
Kolek's FTs down the stretch don't happen if Kam doesn't put the team on his back throughout the middle third of the second half. Give the man his SOTG.
Exactly. Kolek scored 6 points on late free throws to make his scoring total close to Kam's.
But without Kam, MU isn't in position for a free throw parade.
Quote from: Goose on January 19, 2023, 05:49:25 AM
Another tough one and that is a good problem. Taking emotion out of it, I go with Kolek. Putting emotion into decision, the photo bomb gives the nod to Kam. I think Kolek was all around better player tonight.
It's really nice not to have a go to guy or that "star player", but Kolek is getting the national recognition he has earned.
give it to Kam Jones
Kam
Kam.
But O-Max gets a high commendation due to getting two clutch baskets in the last 4 minutes when Marquette could of went into their frigid mode.
A Scoop Divided
Dr. B
What a shock!!
Less filling!
Kam, although O-Max's D in the second half on Hopkins was commendable. At half he had 13 points on 6-7 shooting, and only finished with 19 on 9-16 shooting, and at least one or two of his second half buckets was when O-Max got switched off of him.
Not a lot of love for kolek going 19,8,6 on this board eh?
Kam had big moments, but its definitely kolek.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 18, 2023, 10:34:46 PM
There's your SOTG
Your doing Shaka dirrrrty with that distortion. Making him look like an alien lol.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 19, 2023, 07:02:30 AM
Exactly. Kolek scored 6 points on late free throws to make his scoring total close to Kam's.
But without Kam, MU isn't in position for a free throw parade.
Well sure ... but without Kolek being so good at so many things in the first half (and also in the second half), Kam isn't in position to hit his late 3s.
Absolutely no problem with Kam being the choice, but it's not as if Kolek won't have earned the nation's most important sports award if selected.
I mean, in addition to the points and assists ... a 6-3 guard with 8 rebounds for a team that has trouble on the glass.
Kam.
Kolek only gets the easy assists. (and rebounds)
Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 19, 2023, 08:13:49 AM
Not a lot of love for kolek going 19,8,6 on this board eh?
Kam had big moments, but its definitely kolek.
Well it's 19, 8 and 6 vs 21, 4, and 3, with 3 steals as well, plus 50% from three on high volume as well as the timely buckets. It's not exactly like Kam was only out there scoring, he had a pretty complete game too.
Kam. Like how he plays under control.
Quote from: Its DJOver on January 19, 2023, 08:23:22 AM
Well it's 19, 8 and 6 vs 21, 4, and 3, with 3 steals as well, plus 50% from three on high volume as well as the timely buckets. It's not exactly like Kam was only out there scoring, he had a pretty complete game too.
Kam played great. But he also had 3 turnovers to Tyler's 2, and the ball is in TK's hands a bunch more.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 19, 2023, 10:09:23 AM
Kam played great. But he also had 3 turnovers to Tyler's 2, and the ball is in TK's hands a bunch more.
He also had three steals to TKO's 0 (and that last TO I would blame on Oso for for making a poor pass or not calling a T.O. after he picked up his dribble). Both would be fitting, wouldn't complain about either, but I don't think you can say that it's definitely TKO just by looking at his line.
Kolek SOTG
The steal by Kam near the finish pretty much sealed the game.
TK was clutch with the end of game free throws.
The only correct answer is Kam
Quote from: Its DJOver on January 19, 2023, 10:13:00 AM
that last TO I would blame on Oso for for making a poor pass or not calling a T.O. after he picked up his dribble
On the play-by-play sheet, that turnover was, indeed, given to Oso. Kam had 2 TOs in the first half, when he really didn't play that well, and one midway through the 2nd half.
Again, no problem giving it to Kam, but Kolek was pretty darn good the entire game while Kam was meh just about the entire first half (3 points on 1-for-3 shooting, 2 TO, 1 reb, 1 asst, 1 stl).
Quote from: MU82 on January 19, 2023, 11:49:38 AM
On the play-by-play sheet, that turnover was, indeed, given to Oso. Kam had 2 TOs in the first half, when he really didn't play that well, and one midway through the 2nd half.
Again, no problem giving it to Kam, but Kolek was pretty darn good the entire game while Kam was meh just about the entire first half (3 points on 1-for-3 shooting, 2 TO, 1 reb, 1 asst, 1 stl).
Gotcha, didn't go through the play-by-play to see who they credited with that one, I just remember thinking that it was a bad pass by Oso after he picked up his dribble in a bad spot.
It sounds like me mostly agree that you can't just look at players line because there's more that goes into it. Kam got the timely buckets when PC was making a run, Kolek hit the fts down the stretch, all points count the same in the end, but Kam's were more important IMO because of the momentum involved.
Kolek also only had 2 TOs and the ball is in his hands a lot, but I was not impressed with some of his decision making down the stretch. When we ran out football out of bounds play, TKO got the ball, took two dribbles, stopped in a corner and had to burn a TO. Later, he picked up his dribble right after he crossed mid court when PC was coming with a double, almost turned it over and luckily got another time out called. Neither effected his box score line, but both were uncharacteristic mistakes from our starting PG that cost us two time outs.
I will admit to holding TKO to a higher standard in those situations, just because we have seen how good he can be in them. Again, would have no complaints if the mods gave it to him, I just think Kam had a better game with more impactful moments.
Hopefully the "who's better, Kam or Kolek" debate is one we can continue for 2-3 more years.
between all the other games kam held our jock straps only to bow to oso or Omax due to superior stats, let's put those together with this beauty and mark one down for KAM the man
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 18, 2023, 11:44:38 PM
In the post game, Shaka said Kam motioned to him and called that out-of-bounds play that led to the three for himself. Not something he usually does. I vote Clutch Kam.
I believe this is the play that Cooley called, "game, set and match."
Kam
When we ran out football out of bounds play, TKO got the ball, took two dribbles, stopped in a corner and had to burn a TO.
He was nearly in the corner when he received the pass. When he was trapped, I give him credit for a) knowing he had a time out left and b) using it rather than being forced into a risky play.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 18, 2023, 11:51:56 PM
PC cut it to 6, then Kam scored or assisted 13 of the next 15 Marquette points. Incredible stretch for him.
This is why Kam should be SOTG. Kolek had a very good game, but Kam's made shots down the stretch were absolutely critical.
Sidenote: Kolek being so vastly improved in scoring at the basket is a real bonus for the team and making them that much more challenging to defend.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 19, 2023, 02:25:04 PM
When we ran out football out of bounds play, TKO got the ball, took two dribbles, stopped in a corner and had to burn a TO.
He was nearly in the corner when he received the pass. When he was trapped, I give him credit for a) knowing he had a time out left and b) using it rather than being forced into a risky play.
Disagree about where he received the ball, he could have turned any direction. He also had his dribble, chose to take two dribbles towards the corner and then pick up his dribble. At that point it was always going to be either a turnover or a timeout. Should have either immediately started up court, or immediately look to make a pass with the double coming. I think he was expecting to get fouled right away and when that didn't happen he didn't know how to react. Hopefully he learns from it.
Jop
Kam.
End of discussion.
Ben Gold
Tom Crean
Kam.
But really should just go to the startin 5 for locking down when it mattered.
Quote from: Its DJOver on January 19, 2023, 11:58:34 AM
Gotcha, didn't go through the play-by-play to see who they credited with that one, I just remember thinking that it was a bad pass by Oso after he picked up his dribble in a bad spot.
It sounds like me mostly agree that you can't just look at players line because there's more that goes into it. Kam got the timely buckets when PC was making a run, Kolek hit the fts down the stretch, all points count the same in the end, but Kam's were more important IMO because of the momentum involved.
Kolek also only had 2 TOs and the ball is in his hands a lot, but I was not impressed with some of his decision making down the stretch. When we ran out football out of bounds play, TKO got the ball, took two dribbles, stopped in a corner and had to burn a TO. Later, he picked up his dribble right after he crossed mid court when PC was coming with a double, almost turned it over and luckily got another time out called. Neither effected his box score line, but both were uncharacteristic mistakes from our starting PG that cost us two time outs.
I will admit to holding TKO to a higher standard in those situations, just because we have seen how good he can be in them. Again, would have no complaints if the mods gave it to him, I just think Kam had a better game with more impactful moments.
Fair enough, DJO. Agree about those less-than-optimal decisions by Kolek down the stretch.
I'm going to change my mind with all new info in the thread I go with Diener because he beat Wade.
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 20, 2023, 10:16:34 AM
I'm going to change my mind with all new info in the thread I go with Dierner because he beat Wade.
?????
Are you staying at Afloat in San Juan or Aloft?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 20, 2023, 10:25:11 AM
?????
Are you staying at Afloat in San Juan or Aloft?
;D
Duly noted and corrected (best Herman impression). Not in the Aloft as noted on the text (you know where to look).
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 20, 2023, 10:28:59 AM
;D
Duly noted and corrected (best Herman impression). Not in the Aloft as noted on the text (you know where to look).
Somehow I think you have some Ponce Gold afloating atop your pool cocktail
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 20, 2023, 10:25:11 AM
?????
Are you staying at Afloat in San Juan or Aloft?
Maybe he was voting for Dierner for STOG of the game.
So Kam gets his maiden and it's up on the board, but is he giving Scoop a message because it took so long?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 20, 2023, 10:33:27 AM
Somehow I think you have some Ponce Gold afloating atop your pool cocktail
No yet, tonight when end of Christmas party continues.
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 20, 2023, 10:40:43 AM
Maybe he was voting for Dierner for STOG of the game.
;D
Kam slideshow duly noted.
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Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 20, 2023, 11:30:50 AM
So Kam gets his maiden and it's up on the board, but is he giving Scoop a message because it took so long?
Ha! You made me take a good look at the entire slide show. Great stuff.
As Dandy Don once told Cosell, "He's just saying,
We're Number 1."
When do we rename this High Scorer of the Game??? ;D (Note this would be in teal if I weren't lazy)
Congrats, Kam! Nice game.
The slideshow really highlights Kam's "unconventional" shooting mechanics.
I'm glad none of the coaching staff tried to fix them (or glad they failed if they did try) because as weird as it looks coming off his hand, it works.
Quote from: barfolomew on January 20, 2023, 04:47:30 PM
The slideshow really highlights Kam's "unconventional" shooting mechanics.
I'm glad none of the coaching staff tried to fix them (or glad they failed if they did try) because as weird as it looks coming off his hand, it works.
Or they decided don't fix what ain't broken, just don't take mid court shots like you're Curry