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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: wadesworld on January 11, 2023, 08:10:13 PM
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Oso. Sanogo couldn’t play against him. Made his clutch free throws.
Lot of contributions tonight from everyone.
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OSO, but Omax was great. Shoutout to Kam for the huge 2nd half and Kolek steady too. Contributions all over the board.
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I honestly don’t know
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Ahem
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Oso
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Oso
OMax
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Oso by a mile.
What a game! Absolutely HUGE win!
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OMax
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How about the whole team? What a freaking win.
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I honestly don’t know
This was a real team effort.
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I think O-Max. But Oso was great. Sean Jones was huge tonight too.
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Would have said OMax after that block he had, but since FTsmatta, gotta be Oso.
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That was a team win. Pick one of five guys and there is solid argument.
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Omax. His defense on Hawkins was suffocating. Totally took him out of the game.
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Oso. His ability to make his own disadvantage into a mismatch was crucial here
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Oso
Hit his free throws when it Mattered
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Oso. Sanogo couldn’t play against him. Made his clutch free throws.
Lot of contributions tonight from everyone.
Yes and yes and Oso!
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How about Kam? His second half was crucial.
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Tougher than usual. But I'll go with Oso.
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Kam Jones.
Had all 15 points in second half. He also had 3 steals, one against Hawkins leading to two points and another from Newton.
Jones also hit the shot of the game with 1 minute left. MU was up nine with 2:31 to go and Joplin took that horrendous three with 20 seconds left on clock (he was yanked) and Kolek with terrible turnover, leading to UCONN getting baskets and fouls. Lead cut to 3 with UCONN momentum. Then Jones hit the three, back up 6, momentum to MU.
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Both O’s.
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One of the few games I had to take a closer look at the box score afterwards. What a team effort.
Oso. barely.
It's astounding that Kam has won one yet.
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Toughest call of the season for SOTG. I’d go with Omax.
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Oso Igohodaro
Honorable Mention
Olivier-Maxence Prosper
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I can't pick between the OSO-MAX.
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Might actually be a team stud eh? Oso locking down the point, omax for scoring l, kolek for assists, Sean for not allowing sanogo to dribble.
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Just a great game, kept their composure!
Hmmm oso, kam, Oliver!
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Geez, ahem.
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Of course, It's all about the O's ! ! ! 8-)
CO-SOTG Oso&O-Max
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Oso was overmatched and still prevailed. Oso
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Oso. His ability to make his own disadvantage into a mismatch was crucial here
That’s the best argument I’ve seen for anyone.
I’d do team for this one, but if has to be a person, see GB point.
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Kolek.
Oso.
Kam.
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This might get some pushback, but I’d bet if you asked him Oso would say he didn’t play great tonight.
Same with TyKo.
That’s what makes this team special.
Sean Jones is my answer.
You will rarely, if ever, see someone play 14 minutes and have the impact the way he did.
Down 11 with under 6 left in the 1H and he brought it all- energy, defense, excitement, scoring.
Down 4 at half and Shaka does his Shaka thing and Marquette goes on to win.
This seems like a great thread to comment on this-
Marquette won a game against an elite team without playing fantastic basketball, and that’s special.
Great defense outside of Clingan.
Edited to mention that one of my favorite plays of the 2H was when Sean went up against Clingan and won that loose ball.
Just incredible.
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Oso, wouldn’t complain about Kam or TKO though.
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PGs Matta Kolek & Kam
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This might get some pushback, but I’d bet if you asked him Oso would say he didn’t play great tonight.
Same with TyKo.
That’s what makes this team special.
Sean Jones is my answer.
You will rarely, if ever, see someone play 14 minutes and have the impact the way he did.
Down 11 with under 6 left in the 1H and he brought it all- energy, defense, excitement, scoring.
Down 4 at half and Shaka does his Shaka thing and Marquette goes on to win.
This seems like a great thread to comment on this-
Marquette won a game against an elite team without playing fantastic basketball, and that’s special.
Great defense outside of Clingan.
Edited to mention that one of my favorite plays of the 2H was when Sean went up against Clingan and won that loose ball.
Just incredible.
Great post. Agree with all of your points.
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So many greats, but it's Oso. He was the only one able to manage Clingan and he made the person BEPOY unplayable.
Kudos to Sean's first half, Kam's second, Tyler and O-Max being their steady selves, plenty to be happy about, but Oso was the guy we needed in the middle.
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Oso.
I think OMax had a better game.
Oso hitting those late free throws after struggling all year deserves special recognition and elevates him to SOTG, IMHO
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I really liked how after the goose egg first half, Kam came out and just took what they gave him. He didn't force anything. He has developed into a very disciplined star ballplayer.
Some game by Oso!
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Jop
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Team
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I'm gonna go with Shaka as the MIP tonight.
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Oso.
I think OMax had a better game.
Oso hitting those late free throws after struggling all year deserves special recognition and elevates him to SOTG, IMHO
Omax’s 6 rebounds were huge. We held our own on rebounds 35-29 (MU). Well done team and coaches!
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This might get some pushback, but I’d bet if you asked him Oso would say he didn’t play great tonight....
Great defense outside of Clingan.
100%. Oso made some clutch FTs. Seems like a paradox that he eliminated Sanogo, but also couldn't figure out how to play Clingan. We didn't rebound well in the last 5 minutes, thats on the team but I'm looking to Oso to lead there. Uconn's push came just a little too late, but we had zero answer for Clingan.
For that it's Prosper. Really a team effort though.
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nyg makes a great argument for Kam, who was dynamite when the game was decided in the second half, capping it all with his dagger 3. Sean Jones was electric during his time on the court. OMax was outstanding. And so on.
But Oso does so much out there, and the team suffers so much when he's not on the floor. When it looked for a second like he was hurt, I might have even cursed a little.
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I thought Jones The Younger was really, really, good tonight in 14 mins. He made timely plays.
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Oso...they couldn't defend without him.
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Oso
Sean
Omax
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When it looked for a second like he was hurt, I might have even cursed a little.
I curse you for reminding me of that moment … I had repressed it successfully
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Oso
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OMax for his rebounding and defense over Oso.
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I'm going with Kam. He made 3 big buckets to stop UConn's momentum. Tied at 58, 65-62, and 73-70, Kam scored the next possession each time.
The last being a dagger 3 with a minute to go. He was Mr. Big Shot tonight.
Oso and O-Max were both great, too. HM for Sean Jones keeping us in the game in the first half.
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I would vote Kam so he gets on the board. Big shots in big moments.
But the right answer is probably Oso.
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1. O-Max. Brought scoring and some huge rebounds. More importantly, he absolutely erased Jordan Hawkins who had been averaging 17.2 points a game over the last 9 games. With him neutralized, UConn's offense couldn't keep up with ours
2. Kam. Keyed our run in the second half to take the lead. Had three steals creating opportunities for us. Was the only player who could consistently score on Clingan going 4/5 from 2. Made the beautiful alley oop lob to Oso for the play of the game. Supplied the dagger three.
3. Oso. We certainly don't win this game without him but Clingan ate his lunch on both sides of the ball. Clingian is going to do that to a lot of players over his time in college. Had some nice moments on Sanogo but I think the help D was the key to forcing those five turns.
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Oso. Those Oso free throws were clutch at the end. Hurley was smart fouling him as far as the stats go. Although that one where the defender pretty much dragged Oso to the ground on the inbounds was a questionable non flagrant call.
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1. O-Max. Brought scoring and some huge rebounds. More importantly, he absolutely erased Jordan Hawkins who had been averaging 17.2 points a game over the last 9 games. With him neutralized, UConn's offense couldn't keep up with ours
TAMU, an OT question for you: why give that stat for the last 9 games for Hawkins? Without seeing his game-to-game numbers, that feels like a cherry-picked figure. That's half the season, but why not use the full season of their 18 games? Or, use just the 7 games they've played in the league? Without a "natural" starting point for the number of games, it seems like it could be one of those cases of 'manipulating' statistics to confirm a bias. Really, though, just curious how you landed at last 9 games?
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Shaka
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TAMU, an OT question for you: why give that stat for the last 9 games for Hawkins? Without seeing his game-to-game numbers, that feels like a cherry-picked figure. That's half the season, but why not use the full season of their 18 games? Or, use just the 7 games they've played in the league? Without a "natural" starting point for the number of games, it seems like it could be one of those cases of 'manipulating' statistics to confirm a bias. Really, though, just curious how you landed at last 9 games?
Hawkins and Jackson are legit NBA prospects. OMax was better than both last night.
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damn, i was waiting for goose...but this is a tough one. first off it was a real team effort.
sean hit some nice early shots to put some defensive attention on himself and his defense as always is annoying...for the other team
kam was as patient as i've seen, and just like the cialis ad, when the moment was right, he came up BIG
oso-well, he was solid, plus they've obviously been working on his free throws
the big Omax-man is he active. you cannot lose track of him
tyler-they said they would rather he score than assist? careful what they wished for-they got a little of both. side note-following that real bad, but rare turnover late in the game-COMPOSURE
under the radar guy, but so very important cogs-jop, stevie and ross, ben-couldn't do it without them
shaka was the quiet maestro. only 11 turnovers to the #6? we would had that in the first 10 minutes a few years ago
conclusion? whatever goose says ;D
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That was a team win. Pick one of five guys and there is solid argument.
So Shaka?
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So Shaka?
aww shoot, did goose say that? i scanned the comments and must be too early in the morning but i did miss it-pretty solid argument though is right on. i tried to make one for 8 of our guys plus the shocker!
shaka keeps this team composed among many other things, but you don't see panic. panic kills many teams down the stretch. this team is older than their ages due to shaka.
btw-i like the new in bounds play-presents many options-it also showed shaka was not going to sit idly by with a previously poorly executed and predictable failing inbounds play-refreshing
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I was going to stay home and watch the game rather than go to choir practice at my church, but a little voice, my wife, said go. Looking at the replay of the game I realized that when we were down 11 we were practicing "We Shall Overcome" in celebration of MLK day.
So obviously the STOG has to be my wife, that is if we really can't decide.
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O-Max. Defense and rebounding were huge.
Oso was imperative, but his counterparts did have more points and rebounds. He was the only one who could defend the interior with much success, but that is because our reserve bigs cannot defend the interior at all. Don't know if he deserves SOTG credit for that.
Otherwise, the Jones' are also both good choices. Sean stabilized the game in the first half when it was getting away from us and Kam made several huge buckets in the second half.
I always want to say Kolek, but I think those 4 deserve it ahead of him.
Great team performance, so whoever you pick is fine. During that 16-0 UConn run, I really thought we were just outmatched.
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TAMU, an OT question for you: why give that stat for the last 9 games for Hawkins? Without seeing his game-to-game numbers, that feels like a cherry-picked figure. That's half the season, but why not use the full season of their 18 games? Or, use just the 7 games they've played in the league? Without a "natural" starting point for the number of games, it seems like it could be one of those cases of 'manipulating' statistics to confirm a bias. Really, though, just curious how you landed at last 9 games?
Because he's been on a scoring tear for the last 9 games. It's not manipulating statistics, it's articulating how long he has been scoring at this level.
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OMax
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I really could go with several players in this one, which is rare because one almost always stands out as obvious to me. I picked Oso earlier but after reading what several other Scoopers say I'm now leaning toward Kam. Or O-Max. Or maybe stay with Oso.
It's great having a "problem" like this!
IMHO, I didn't think Tyler had one of his better games. Announcers made a big deal out of "UConn could pay the price for making him a scorer," but the fact is he only scored 6 and he missed both 3 attempts. Eight assists were very nice, and he had a few other passes that led to FTs. But he also had 5 TOs, including that horrid one near the end. He was good, but he has set a very high bar for himself with his outstanding play this season.
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Omax.
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Because he's been on a scoring tear for the last 9 games. It's not manipulating statistics, it's articulating how long he has been scoring at this level.
Accepted. I wasn't accusing you of such manipulation, though it could easily be inferred as such with my word choices. I respect and appreciate your statistical contributions and insights.
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Because he's been on a scoring tear for the last 9 games. It's not manipulating statistics, it's articulating how long he has been scoring at this level.
In addition, he was held out in early season games due to serious carryover concussion problems from last season. And, he sat most of ISU game with fouls.
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Great to see the discussion, but it has to be Shaka.
UConn new we were going to double their bigs and we still rotated fast enough to deny easy perimeter shots.
We looked DEAD after their 14 point 1H run, but coach lit a fire under SJ and he helped spread the floor, and halt UConn's momentum.
He recognized when Gold would be effective amd pulled him as soon as he stopped.
MU gave different offensive looks in the 2H, opening lanes by drawing Clingan out, and allowing Kam to get rolling.
Shaka knows refs hate Hurley and he smooth talked his way to a foul advantage in the 2H.
Once we had a dominant position with less than 2M left he showed UConn a 2-3 zone to confuse them.
He ran a bizarre but effective inbound play when they pressed after traditional methods failed in previous games.
The players were great. Shaka was a stud.
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Sean Jones definitely deserves an honorable mention. If the game was just the first half, he would have been the stud
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O Max.
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This was a great total team effort. Every player made positive contributions. The sotg could be nearly any one of them. But, in my mind, the sotg was Shaka. His halftime adjustments and the way he substituted was masterful. I thought he really was the difference in the game.
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Sean Jones definitely deserves an honorable mention. If the game was just the first half, he would have been the stud
Agree. I thought it was his best all-around game at Marquette, especially given the opponent and the stakes.
That make at the first-half buzzer was a big hoop, and he was all over the place on D like a freakin' pesty gnat!
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damn, i was waiting for goose...but this is a tough one. first off it was a real team effort.
sean hit some nice early shots to put some defensive attention on himself and his defense as always is annoying...for the other team
kam was as patient as i've seen, and just like the cialis ad, when the moment was right, he came up BIG
oso-well, he was solid, plus they've obviously been working on his free throws
the big Omax-man is he active. you cannot lose track of him
tyler-they said they would rather he score than assist? careful what they wished for-they got a little of both. side note-following that real bad, but rare turnover late in the game-COMPOSURE
under the radar guy, but so very important cogs-jop, stevie and ross, ben-couldn't do it without them
shaka was the quiet maestro. only 11 turnovers to the #6? we would had that in the first 10 minutes a few years ago
conclusion? whatever goose says ;D
aww shoot, did goose say that? i scanned the comments and must be too early in the morning but i did miss it-pretty solid argument though is right on. i tried to make one for 8 of our guys plus the shocker!
shaka keeps this team composed among many other things, but you don't see panic. panic kills many teams down the stretch. this team is older than their ages due to shaka.
btw-i like the new in bounds play-presents many options-it also showed shaka was not going to sit idly by with a previously poorly executed and predictable failing inbounds play-refreshing
Honest question. Do you ever make a single post without some kind of sexual reference? You need to rub one out every once in a while my man.
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Honest question. Do you ever make a single post without some kind of sexual reference? You need to rub one out every once in a while my man.
...whatever...so you criticize someone with the exact thing you seem to have an issue with...umkay...probably best you just put me on ignore if it bothers you and btw, i'm good with the "tension" hows about focusing on the big picture instead of looking for chit to complain about or ignore-have a good one!
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Would probably go with Oso or Omax too and Sean Jones was awesome 1st half and helped make it a basketball Donnybrook after UCONNs 16-0 run. Shaka coached Great. Tyler had a huge lay up late. But honorable mention to Kam since he deserves a Star OTG eventually. According to ESPN Kam had the Shot OTG with his 3 at 73-70.
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O-Max for SOTG. He made big shots when we needed them and was a huge EGB in clutch time(see: the put-back dunk, huge block late in 2h, rebounds). Huge on the defensive end as well by constantly frustrating their ballhandlers.
That said, Oso was the most important player of the game. I am splitting hairs, but there is a distinction there.
Hon Mention to S Jones. Dude had a game and is starting to let it come to him.
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I really like this team. The depth is the best ever. Oso for his effort.
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MODS must be meeting at Arby's for dinner to decide STOG
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Ahem
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