1. Like Santa Claus. Passing out presents to all of the good little players who keep moving and get open. (Gold saving him from a TO. Priceless)
2. I thought Shaka out-thought himself in the first half. Stevie was hot. None of the other guards were. Rotated Chase, Sean, and Kam waiting for someone else to heat up while leaving Stevie on the bench. Stevie comes back in after his second half rest, huge run. Just sayin'
3. Amazing Joplin picked up 3 fouls in the first half, considering he wasn't playing any defense.
4. First half, couldn't hit 3's, missed open lay ups in the half court offense, didn't guard with intensity. It was fine other than that.
5. And then, right on cue...... The second half was the laugher we were all looking for.
6. Omax not good today. But he did not force it. Didn't really need him.
7. I was hoping the bench would get some big run today. They did. And in the second half, they were integral to the run that broke it open.
8. All 10 scholarship players who played scored. Life is really good.
9. Now it gets tough.
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2023, 03:01:08 PM
1. Like Santa Claus. Passing out presents to all of the good little players who keep moving and get open. (Gold saving him from a TO. Priceless)
2. I thought Shaka out-thought himself in the first half. Stevie was hot. None of the other guards were. Rotated Chase, Sean, and Kam waiting for someone else to heat up while leaving Stevie on the bench. Stevie comes back in after his second half rest, huge run. Just sayin'
3. Amazing Joplin picked up 3 fouls in the first half, considering he wasn't playing any defense.
4. First half, couldn't hit 3's, missed open lay ups in the half court offense, didn't guard with intensity. It was fine other than that.
5. And then, right on cue...... The second half was the laugher we were all looking for.
6. Omax not good today. But he did not force it. Didn't really need him.
7. I was hoping the bench would get some big run today. They did. And in the second half, they were integral to the run that broke it open.
8. All 10 scholarship players who played scored. Life is really good.
9. Now it gets tough.
We are more than capable of unloading and then disposing of UCONN Tower. F'kem.
Not sure I can remember the last time Tower's thread wasn't a pun on the opponents team name.
Anyone who thinks some potential recruit doesn't fit Shaka's system because they don't defend or aren't athletic needs to remember Shaka recruited David Joplin to two different schools.
I thought about Hoya Suxa, but that seemed like piling on. And TKo needs celebrated.
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2023, 03:04:24 PM
I thought about Hoya Suxa, but that seemed like piling on. And TKo needs celebrated.
Fair. And I'd imagine it would not be the first time you've used Hoya Suxa. Something to be said about originality.
That went from our worst, most lackadaisical performance of the year to one of our best, most electric performances of the year.
Great 18 point cover boys.
Shaka Smart is one hell of a coach.
I was disappointed Kam made that last 3. Prior to that Kolek had more assists than our leading scorers (Kam, Oso 14). Kam finished with 17.
I was all ready to coin the phrase 'A Kolek' for when a player has more assists than their team's leading scorer.
Quite simply
F*k 'em
On our way!
Kam Jones open for three, he actually pumped faked and drove to basket getting fouled. Just like the Nova guards do. Outstanding, more please.
Ross in corner for open three, pump fakes, drives to hoop for dunk. Outstanding, more please.
Ross was outstanding today, more than made up for Omax's off day.
Stevie Mitchell was on the radar to be on of my favorite MU players and he has quickly won me over. Its such a joy to watch this man play defense
Quote from: MU24 on January 07, 2023, 03:14:50 PM
Stevie Mitchell was on the radar to be on of my favorite MU players and he has quickly won me over. Its such a joy to watch this man play defense
Sure feels like the game has slowed down for him. His growth has been impressive. Said it in the game thread, if Jones shows that improvement by next Big East season, guards in the league will hate playing Marquette
Quote from: TheREALwrk on January 07, 2023, 03:06:08 PM
Fair. And I'd imagine it would not be the first time you've used Hoya Suxa. Something to be said about originality.
You're right, I think. That would be recycling a used thread title.
We still seem to have a ref problem. Georgetown in the bonus well before us in both halves.
Quote from: TheREALwrk on January 07, 2023, 03:03:19 PM
Not sure I can remember the last time Tower's thread wasn't a pun on the opponents team name.
Um, earlier this week?
Quote from: nyg on January 07, 2023, 03:11:54 PM
Kam Jones open for three, he actually pumped faked and drove to basket getting fouled. Just like the Nova guards do. Outstanding, more please.
Ross in corner for open three, pump fakes, drives to hoop for dunk. Outstanding, more please.
Ross was outstanding today, more than made up for Omax's off day.
Ross is such a high energy guy. He's going to be really great...and he's been great already. Plays with a lot of poise for a freshman.
I thought the Kiwi really put us over the top in the second half. He had about a three minute stretch where he was doing everything: scoring, rebounding, defending, grabbing loose balls... Gave me a lot of optimism that we'll be okay whenever Oso decides to leave.
Georgetown is probably the worst coached team I have seen on the offensive end. In thinking about the PT article from a day or so ago, they take A TON of just awful shots. And sure sometimes they make them, but the law of averages usually comes into play eventually.
Primo Spears for example could be a really good college point guard. But he just takes so many bad shots. If he had a decent coach, he could definitely be a bunch better than he is.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 03:18:44 PM
We still seem to have a ref problem. Georgetown in the bonus well before us in both halves.
Brian Butch in the first half said that we had done nothing to earn a foul. And he was right. It was all very passive.
Primo... sometimes he is like Captain Speirs from Band of Brothers. Sometimes he is like Britney. Oops, I did it again...
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2023, 03:16:27 PM
You're right, I think. That would be recycling a used thread title.
For next time:
Wring Out the Hoyas
No charge. ;D
I like it.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 07, 2023, 03:25:01 PM
Brian Butch in the first half said that we had done nothing to earn a foul. And he was right. It was all very passive.
Brian Bitch is a moron. This quote was followed by Sean Jones driving to the hole and getting clobbered to no whistle.
Watch the games.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2023, 03:16:08 PM
Sure feels like the game has slowed down for him. His growth has been impressive. Said it in the game thread, if Jones shows that improvement by next Big East season, guards in the league will hate playing Marquette
I think it's fair to say, even on January 7th 2023, that Marquette will have the best guards in the BE in 2023/24.
I'm in no way looking forward to next season and sacrificing this one, but Holy hell.
Kam isn't going anywhere, TyKo and Stevie aren't going anywhere.
Then you have Chase Ross, Sean Jones, and Emarion Ellis who Shaka recruited to Texas.
Add on two really really good looking 2/3s coming in in Tre Norman and Zaide Lowery.
Even if one guy moves on because he doesn't see a path to playing time, that is an absolutely LOADED 1-3.
You've got one of the best PGs and SGs, and the best defensive G in the BE already in place, and you back it up with the others?
I mean I'm not sure I've seen a more loaded backcourt top to bottom in my life as a Marquette fan.
GT boarding longing for a coach like Shaka and a PG like Kolek.
Sultan likes Badgers....
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 03:40:07 PM
Brian Bitch is a moron. This quote was followed by Sean Jones driving to the hole and getting clobbered to no whistle.
Watch the games.
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 07, 2023, 03:48:17 PM
Sultan likes Badgers....
Brian Butch was fine today. People that can't get past where he went to school have maladjusted anti-social tendencies
:o Trap game
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 03:40:07 PM
Brian Bitch is a moron. This quote was followed by Sean Jones driving to the hole and getting clobbered to no whistle.
Watch the games.
🙄🙄🙄
Stick to...whatever it is you actually do well. Cause this ain't it.
First half. I think Shaka went a little too loose with lineups playing GT.
But GT has punched first half against other teams.
We buried them when it mattered. And outside of walk ons it was basically a 30 pt win.
TK is fu cking brilliant.
UCONN time
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 07, 2023, 04:00:34 PM
First half. I think Shaka went a little too loose with lineups playing GT.
But GT has punched first half against other teams.
We buried them when it mattered. And outside of walk ons it was basically a 30 pt win.
TK is fu cking brilliant.
UCONN time
I actually think Shaka by and large sticks with his rotation in the first half. Unless he's dealing with fouls of course.
I love Shaka sticking with the rotations, especially in the first half. We have nine guys that can play and they need minutes. He has shown a lot of confidence in his team and that will pay off down the road. As for today, they missed a lot of open looks in the first half and that was the difference.
It is a double edged sword, Goose. Watching the game, I think the half time score was because of the first half substitution patterns. I thought the stretches with 4 subs on the floor were painful to watch.
Having said that, it is a long season and MU will need contributions from everyone. As bad as I thought the bench was in the first half, the three bench players on the floor when MU put the game away really made a difference.
So, hurting my eyes was worth it, I guess.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 03:40:07 PM
Brian Bitch is a moron. This quote was followed by Sean Jones driving to the hole and getting clobbered to no whistle.
Yes, some whiny interwebs fan-board poster taking issue with one thing Brian Butch said proves that he's a "moron."
He's one of the best college basketball announcers out there, but you go on thinking that the reason Marquette has won only one conference title is that the refs have hated MU for years. If not for those cheatin' refs, we'd have a dozen at least by now.
My experience tells me that people who continually blame refs really don't know what they are seeing out there.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 07, 2023, 03:24:00 PM
Georgetown is probably the worst coached team I have seen on the offensive end. In thinking about the PT article from a day or so ago, they take A TON of just awful shots. And sure sometimes they make them, but the law of averages usually comes into play eventually.
Primo Spears for example could be a really good college point guard. But he just takes so many bad shots. If he had a decent coach, he could definitely be a bunch better than he is.
Agreed. Spears has some talent but just goes iso iso iso. Bad team play.
Quote from: MU24 on January 07, 2023, 03:14:50 PM
Stevie Mitchell was on the radar to be on of my favorite MU players and he has quickly won me over. Its such a joy to watch this man play defense
What I love about Stevie is how he's getting his points in the flow of the game and never looks to force stuff. Showing he can knock down open looks makes our team even better because they can't leave him open. Plus his defensive intensity is just terrific.
I like Butch as an announcer, but I don't like Badgers....
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2023, 03:50:12 PM
Brian Butch was fine today. People that can't get past where he went to school have maladjusted anti-social tendencies
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 07, 2023, 05:39:59 PM
What I love about Stevie is how he's getting his points in the flow of the game and never looks to force stuff. Showing he can knock down open looks makes our team even better because they can't leave him open. Plus his defensive intensity is just terrific.
Stevie's basketball IQ is off the charts, as is his real life IQ clocking in at the 4.0 GPA last semester. His ability to read defenses and make the right cut, at the right time is special.
Overall with Kolek at Point, Oso at Center, and Stevie as a wing - that's some serious basketball IQ on the floor.
Someone else mentioned how they loved Kam pump faking a three and driving, and Chase Ross doing the same - also great plays/basketball IQ demonstration.
Never felt nervous the entire game. We were getting open shots, just not hitting them. Georgetown was getting a lot bad shots to go down. Knew there would be a massive reversal in the second half.
That being said, Georgetown also got too many good shots. Watching freaking Jordan Riley take Kam one on one and getting to the hoop for an easy layup is not great. Our defense is disruptive as he'll but too many of our players can't stay in front of their assignments. Need Stevie and Chase to rub off on the rest of team
My only concern is why we don't play the first half like the second half. We just might see ourselves in a deep hole we can't dig ourselves out of in the second half and it just might be that first tournament game or it could be next Wednesday.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 07, 2023, 06:09:45 PM
My only concern is why we don't play the first half like the second half. We just might see ourselves in a deep hole we can't dig ourselves out of in the second half and it just might be that first tournament game or it could be next Wednesday.
Or not. My only concern is that we do well overall, even if your scenario becomes reality Wednesday. You worry for me, OK?
And about getting into too deep of a hole in the first half to dig ourselves out in the second? We've been there, done that- the Wisconsin game. But we gave it one hell of a try, double OT.
Seriuosly- try to enjoy the games and worry about the losses after they happen, since we cannot do anything about them anyway. :)
Quote from: MU82 on January 07, 2023, 04:30:37 PM
Yes, some whiny interwebs fan-board poster taking issue with one thing Brian Butch said proves that he's a "moron."
He's one of the best college basketball announcers out there, but you go on thinking that the reason Marquette has won only one conference title is that the refs have hated MU for years. If not for those cheatin' refs, we'd have a dozen at least by now.
Haven't you been wrong on like... every take you've ever had? I'm surprised you haven't created a new account.
Marquette fans creaming over the mediocre announcer Brian Butch is pathetic. Fox Sports has much better to offer. There's a reason he was sent to Milwaukee today and not Philly, Rhode Island, or even New Jersey.
Quote from: MU82 on January 07, 2023, 04:30:37 PM
...Brian Butch...
...He's one of the best college basketball announcers out there.
This can't be a real take
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 06:21:36 PM
Marquette fans creaming over the mediocre announcer Brian Butch is pathetic. Fox Sports has much better to offer. There's a reason he was sent to Milwaukee today and not Philly, Rhode Island, or even New Jersey.
Yeah, they use local announcers quite a bit.
It's pathetic you don't know that since you "watch the games".
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 06:21:36 PM
Marquette fans creaming over the mediocre announcer Brian Butch is pathetic. Fox Sports has much better to offer. There's a reason he was sent to Milwaukee today and not Philly, Rhode Island, or even New Jersey.
And that reason is he is part of a regional tandem and he lives in Wisconsin.
And not one is "creaming" over him. You're the one who called him a "moron." He clearly is not.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2023, 06:27:10 PM
Yeah, they use local announcers quite a bit.
It's pathetic you don't know that since you "watch the games".
If this was UConn and not Georgetown I'd bet any money we don't have Brian Butch.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 06:26:10 PM
It just can't be
Since your takes aren't too bright, I'll assume you just like the attention.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 06:29:35 PM
If this was UConn and not Georgetown I'd bet any money we don't have Brian Butch.
It wasn't UConn. Great point.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 06:29:35 PM
If this was UConn and not Georgetown I'd bet any money we don't have Brian Butch.
If the game was on FS1, the announcers would have been the exact same.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2023, 06:30:49 PM
It wasn't UConn. Great point.
The point is that the matchup quality was bad so they defaulted to their unspecial local announcer as you originally suggested.
Not hard to follow basic logic.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 07, 2023, 06:31:03 PM
If the game was on FS1, the announcers would have been the exact same.
It's on the Fox Sports Networks lol do you understand how that works? Fox has a package of games for which they choose networks and announcers based on matchup quality. Our matchup quality was relatively bad today so we got the middle network with a bad, local announcer.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 06:31:58 PM
The point is that the matchup quality was bad so they defaulted to their unspecial local announcer as you originally suggested.
Not hard to follow basic logic.
He was fine today. There wasn't a single issue with how he announced the game.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 07, 2023, 03:21:25 PM
Ross is such a high energy guy. He's going to be really great...and he's been great already. Plays with a lot of poise for a freshman.
He seems to never make mistakes. At least no freshman mistakes. Fun guy to watch but then they all are.
Ewing is such an awful coach. Multiple times today they set a pick to get a mismatch but then immediately re-set the pick to allow us to switch back.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2023, 06:33:51 PM
He was fine today. There wasn't a single issue with how he announced the game.
I dunno, Rico, at one point he said that to improve "you have to crack what you've been doing."
Maybe you understand that.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 06:33:27 PM
It's on the Fox Sports Networks lol do you understand how that works? Fox has a package of games for which they choose networks and announcers based on matchup quality. Our matchup quality was relatively bad today so we got the middle network with a bad, local announcer.
You need therapy
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 07, 2023, 06:33:27 PM
It's on the Fox Sports Networks lol do you understand how that works? Fox has a package of games for which they choose networks and announcers based on matchup quality. Our matchup quality was relatively bad today so we got the middle network with a bad, local announcer.
<sigh>
Yes. I know how it works. And you're wrong.
But at least you're used to that.
Never have been less worried about a game down at half
Our defense needs work, but we're a good team.
I can't imagine being a Georgetown alum. Just disgraceful.
So Raftery should be in the house on Wednesday. We shall see.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 07, 2023, 08:51:52 PM
So Raftery should be in the house on Wednesday. We shall see.
It's on CBS Sports Network so that's doubtful.
Maybe we can get Pete instead.
Interesting. The ESPN summary of the game today has no mention of Mr. Kolek's 15 assists. Just mentions Kam, Oso and Stevie's point totals. Almost like it was auto-generated.
Quote from: MU82 on January 07, 2023, 09:59:06 PM
You're priceless, princess.
Sorry, but i don't understand what you're getting at by referring to them as princess. Can you please explain?
Wouldn't shock me to see Chase Ross and Ben Gold have a DJO/Jae type of connection by the time they're upperclassmen. Definitely think Gold has NBA potential.
Not sold on Sean Jones yet, I know people here love him, I just don't see it personally.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 07, 2023, 08:53:38 PM
It's on CBS Sports Network so that's doubtful.
Totally assumed it was on Fox. Now I have to find a way to watch the game. That CBSSN isn't in my package. So much for my Raftery comment...lol.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 07, 2023, 10:59:53 PM
Totally assumed it was on Fox. Now I have to find a way to watch the game. That CBSSN isn't in my package. So much for my Raftery comment...lol.
Fox really effed that one up, huh? Maybe one year they'll learn not to put Marquette on CBS Sports more times than DePaul and Georgetown.
Sean Jones for a freshman is impressive. Given his physical limitations, this season may be ceiling as well (no pun intended).
Ross and Gold have huge upsides. Ross needs to play more.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 07, 2023, 10:43:51 PM
Wouldn't shock me to see Chase Ross and Ben Gold have a DJO/Jae type of connection by the time they're upperclassmen. Definitely think Gold has NBA potential.
Not sold on Sean Jones yet, I know people here love him, I just don't see it personally.
Quote from: The Thing on January 07, 2023, 09:00:39 PM
Interesting. The ESPN summary of the game today has no mention of Mr. Kolek's 15 assists. Just mentions Kam, Oso and Stevie's point totals. Almost like it was auto-generated.
It is. They've outsourced those writeups to auto generating ai.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 07, 2023, 11:05:31 PM
Fox really effed that one up, huh? Maybe one year they'll learn not to put Marquette on CBS Sports more times than DePaul and Georgetown.
I just signed up for a YouTube TV trial sonIncan watch the game. Problem solved. But it would be nice if all of the games were on Fox. Not complaining about having them all available though.
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 07, 2023, 11:11:05 PM
Sean Jones for a freshman is impressive. Given his physical limitations, this season may be ceiling as well (no pun intended).
Ross and Gold have huge upsides. Ross needs to play more.
This season may be Sean Jones' ceiling? Pardon?
Sean is very talented, very quick, big heart. Being 5'10, he has to figure some things out. All of these 6'4 guys are almost as quick.
Quote from: tower912 on January 08, 2023, 07:58:53 AM
Sean is very talented, very quick, big heart. Being 5'10, he has to figure some things out. All of these 6'4 guys are almost as quick.
Agree with your first two statements. Not the third. Dude can get by anyone. What he does after that is what he needs to improve on.
Kolek gets into the paint at will, too.
Sean needs to figure out how to finish in the trees.
Quote from: tower912 on January 08, 2023, 09:35:39 AM
Sean needs to figure out how to finish in the trees.
I would add to that to be a more effective passer when getting into the paint. Often he drives and when he cannot get to the rim, just passes to anyone instead of someone in a position to score.
He is a frosh, all will improve.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 08, 2023, 09:57:00 AM
I would add to that to be a more effective passer when getting into the paint. Often he drives and when he cannot get to the rim, just passes to anyone instead of someone in a position to score.
He is a frosh, all will improve.
This is actually impressive for a frosh. Too often frosh just keep driving and are stripped of the ball, blocked, or get called for charging.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 08, 2023, 10:25:13 AM
This is actually impressive for a frosh. Too often frosh just keep driving and are stripped of the ball, blocked, or get called for charging.
Also given our ball movement offense, this isn't a bad option. The person he passes to often finds the open shooter.
Shaka: The voters thought we had 9th place parts.
Which is parallel to what I said about the preseason voters. They saw a team that had had Justin, Morsell, Greg, and Kur leaving with Sean, Ben, Wrightsil, and Chase coming in. A team without any returning double digit scorers. A team with players in all new roles.
Their assessment is not unfair.
I was more optimistic because I saw improvement at the end of the season by OMax and Stevie. I paid attention to the reports of improvement all summer. The voters don't have that option.
So, Shaka is accomplishing something that Wojo never could. He has created a team that is better than the perceived sum of the parts.
Quote from: tower912 on January 08, 2023, 11:41:52 AM
So, Shaka is accomplishing something that Wojo never could. He has created a team that is better than the perceived sum of the parts.
Indeed, Shaka said in the press conference that was the goal. And you noted early in his tenure that Wojo didn't seem able to achieve greater than the sum of the parts. In fact, he always seemed to manage to achieve less than the sum of the parts results.
Quote from: tower912 on January 08, 2023, 11:41:52 AM
Shaka: The voters thought we had 9th place parts.
Which is parallel to what I said about the preseason voters. They saw a team that had had Justin, Morsell, Greg, and Kur leaving with Sean, Ben, Wrightsil, and Chase coming in. A team without any returning double digit scorers. A team with players in all new roles.
Their assessment is not unfair.
I was more optimistic because I saw improvement at the end of the season by OMax and Stevie. I paid attention to the reports of improvement all summer. The voters don't have that option.
So, Shaka is accomplishing something that Wojo never could. He has created a team that is better than the perceived sum of the parts.
Yep. I have a new signature courtesy of Warrior Fan with those words.