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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: BLWarrior91 on December 31, 2022, 05:35:49 PM
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We all seem to agree that this team is a lot of fun to watch.
How far back do you have to go to match that? Is the DJO and Crowder teams? Is the 2003 FF team? What do think?
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We all seem to agree that this team is a lot of fun to watch.
How far back do you have to go to match that? Is the DJO and Crowder teams? Is the 2003 FF team? What do think?
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We all seem to agree that this team is a lot of fun to watch.
How far back do you have to go to match that? Is the DJO and Crowder teams? Is the 2003 FF team? What do think?
I thought the mighty mites with Sam were a fun team to watch despite the fact they couldn't defend a chair.
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2003
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07-08
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Crean sucks
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Crean sucks
Still better than Wojo.
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2018-19 was a lot of fun until February. Even 2018, with the Rowsey/Howard combo. But in terms of being both fun and good on both ends, 2011-12. That team was a blast.
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2018-19 was a lot of fun until February. Even 2018, with the Rowsey/Howard combo. But in terms of being both fun and good on both ends, 2011-12. That team was a blast.
I agree about the 2018-19 year being fun until the February collapse. But it was still too much Markus. Shaka’s group has more balance and lots of guys can be SOTG on any given night.
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I agree about the 2018-19 year being fun until the February collapse. But it was still too much Markus. Shaka’s group has more balance and lots of guys can be SOTG on any given night.
There were a lot of really fun home games in 2018-2019, but I’d agree with you. Have the benefit of hindsight to know that team collapsed though. Hope this team finishes more strongly.
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20-2 streak was a lot of fun.
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The three amigos coming on the scene was an extremely exciting team. Three starting freshman.
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If you are a basketball fan and someone that appreciates team basketball all over the court, this is the best since Buzz. Good news, much higher ceiling moving forward. I do not think Shaka is out of second gear in driving this program and getting more talent is on the way. That said, I am going to enjoy this team every step of the way.
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Rowsey was one of my all time favorite MU players to watch. A poor man’s Kolek ability to manipulate a defense and dish, a poor man’s Markus’s scoring ability, and no interest in defense.
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Rowsey was one of my all time favorite MU players to watch. A poor man’s Kolek ability to manipulate a defense and dish, a poor man’s Markus’s scoring ability, and no interest in defense.
Wasn't really a poor man's markus howard in terms of scoring ability. He outscored markus howard while having to feed markus howard. dude was a foul magnet.
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Rowsey was one of my all time favorite MU players to watch. A poor man’s Kolek ability to manipulate a defense and dish, a poor man’s Markus’s scoring ability, and no interest in defense.
Rowsey was an incredible pure shooter with some serious swag. Sometimes when I'm down I watch the Creighton game when he hit three consecutive insane long J's.
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Funny how everyone enjoys the 2012 season more than the 2013 one.
Not that I disagree, but just kinda interesting.
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The Sweet 16, Sweet 16: Elite 8 years were fun…..!
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Daniel
Those three years were great and we were on the cusp of being something on the national stage. I loved the DWade FF run, but really enjoyed those three seasons. Hopefully Shaka is building something that has more legs.
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This is a very enjoyable team to watch. The coaching staff has done an incredible job of preparing these kids for each game . Consequently, the team has had a chance to win every game .
The guys are playing unselfishly and with a lot of heart . There is also a diversity of skills which keeps things dynamic .
I loved the S16, S16, S8 teams which had so many characters on them and would put these young guys in that same grouping in terms of fun quotient .
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I thought the 2010 team was a lot of fun. Really low expectations after the 2009 seniors left and they really over achieved and played some fun games. Loved Acker and Cubillan at the guards and Butler and Lazar competed so hard as undersized bigs. Also Buycks and DJO coming on the scene. It was just a really fun year. So disappointed when that year ended with the loss to Washington.
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The midgets were about the last team I enjoyed minute by minute compared to this team.
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Rowsey was one of my all time favorite MU players to watch. A poor man’s Kolek ability to manipulate a defense and dish, a poor man’s Markus’s scoring ability, and no interest in defense.
Maybe a hot take, but Rowsey shot better then Howard and ran the point 1000 times better in my opinion.
Howard just volume shot and people love numbers
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Maybe a hot take, but Rowsey shot better then Howard and ran the point 1000 times better in my opinion.
Howard just volume shot and people love numbers
Not only hot, but really bad too. Congrats.
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How about O’Neill’s Sweet 16 team in 94? Eford, Robb, Mac, Key, McCaskill…that was the team that really helped return MU to relevance after the Dukiet era.
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How about O’Neill’s Sweet 16 team in 94? Eford, Robb, Mac, Key, McCaskill…that was the team that really helped return MU to relevance after the Dukiet era.
I still have the t shirt.
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How about O’Neill’s Sweet 16 team in 94? Eford, Robb, Mac, Key, McCaskill…that was the team that really helped return MU to relevance after the Dukiet era.
O’Neill’s teams were never fun to watch. It was like watching trench warefare.
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O’Neill’s teams were never fun to watch. It was like watching trench warefare.
That is fun, violence!!
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Jae and DJO's senior year was so much fun. That team was damn good.
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Daniel
Those three years were great and we were on the cusp of being something on the national stage. I loved the DWade FF run, but really enjoyed those three seasons. Hopefully Shaka is building something that has more legs.
Yes hoping so too! I think Shaka is! We have an identity again that analysts talk about. Super!
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Maybe a hot take, but Rowsey shot better then Howard and ran the point 1000 times better in my opinion.
Howard just volume shot and people love numbers
Markus 42.7% from 3 on 7.9 attempts per game
Rowsey 40.8% from 3 on 7.6 attempts per game
Hot takes are wild card opinions.
Not blantant objective incompetence
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2013.
We won the Big East. The old Big East. I cried like a baby after that St. John’s game. It was like we scaled the basketball mountaintop. We were Alabama. We won the SEC of hoops.
Our loss to Cinci in OT was great
The win at home vs Cuse was amazing
Gutting it out to 14-4
Top of the World
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The Lens
I was in Hong Kong when we won the BE and I had a great celebration. Let’s do it again and again and again.
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Jae and DJO's senior year was so much fun. That team was damn good.
Yup was my freshman year. You just expected that team to win every game they played in.
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Jae and DJO's senior year was so much fun. That team was damn good.
That team seemed to relish being down by 20 in the first half, only to come back and kick a$$.
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The Lens
I was in Hong Kong when we won the BE and I had a great celebration. Let’s do it again and again and again.
We can win it this year. Everything is on the table.
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We can win it this year. Everything is on the table.
Let's get through this stretch and enter the back half in good form. The back half schedule is seemingly easier.
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Winning the Big East in 2013 was awesome, but that team was not fun the way this team is fun. Slow pace, turnover prone, and terrible shooters. Lots of throw it off the backboard and let Gardner and Otule go get it. The highs of winning the Big East and the Elite Eight were awesome, but it wasn't a pretty process getting there.
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Winning the Big East in 2013 was awesome, but that team was not fun the way this team is fun. Slow pace, turnover prone, and terrible shooters. Lots of throw it off the backboard and let Gardner and Otule go get it. The highs of winning the Big East and the Elite Eight were awesome, but it wasn't a pretty process getting there.
snacking?
The Butler and Miami games in the tournament were pretty.
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The results were great, but it was a bully ball team that wasn't particularly skilled. The 2012 team, with all the strength of 2013 and the skill of Jae & DJO, was a much more aesthetically pleasing team.
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Winning the Big East in 2013 was awesome, but that team was not fun the way this team is fun. Slow pace, turnover prone, and terrible shooters. Lots of throw it off the backboard and let Gardner and Otule go get it. The highs of winning the Big East and the Elite Eight were awesome, but it wasn't a pretty process getting there.
Was that the year we lost our final game at Seton Hall to finish the regular season?
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Was that the year we lost our final game at Seton Hall to finish the regular season?
Nope. Home win over Georgetown.
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Last year the team was fun to watch and we saw glimpses of the future. This year is a notch up on entertaining style of play and I think they are only scratching the surface. I am completely convinced that a year or two from now the program will be stacked with another level of talent.
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The results were great, but it was a bully ball team that wasn't particularly skilled. The 2012 team, with all the strength of 2013 and the skill of Jae & DJO, was a much more aesthetically pleasing team.
Our youngest was born 12/27/12. The 1/19/13 saturday night game vs. Cinci was our first real night out sans kids. My wife and I bellied up at the old Catch 22. Amazing comeback, lost in OT and showed that this team would never stop fighting. One of my favorite nights, and it all started with GTST.
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I love this team and it’s lots of fun. They’ve been in EVERY game they have played. They lack a true center and a “go to” scorer in the pinch. But they try and compensate for their team weaknesses like no team I’ve seen.
Most fun MU team I ever saw was 1975-1976. We basically destroyed almost anything that got in our way. Probably would have had a Natty has Indiana not been so good that year.
We knew when the season started we had something special. Sad thing was Earl Tatum and Lloyd Walton never had a Natty!
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dgies
Some of my favorite memories of the Al era was their defense forcing a five second or ten second violation and I am loving watching these guys beginning to create those stops. Plus, I love that Shaka does not seem to think this is finished product on the D side of the court.
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This was it for me:
https://youtu.be/6HVd493yAhM (https://youtu.be/6HVd493yAhM)
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dgies
Some of my favorite memories of the Al era was their defense forcing a five second or ten second violation and I am loving watching these guys beginning to create those stops. Plus, I love that Shaka does not seem to think this is finished product on the D side of the court.
Right on!
I remember a game against the University of Tennessee where it was 12-0 before the Vols got the ball across the mid-court line.
THAT is Marquette basketball! It’s coming back!
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This was it for me:
https://youtu.be/6HVd493yAhM (https://youtu.be/6HVd493yAhM)
Thanks for posting. I laughed my ass off when I saw it live and again watching it here.
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This was it for me:
https://youtu.be/6HVd493yAhM (https://youtu.be/6HVd493yAhM)
Ha. Thanks for sharing.
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Wins are fun….no matter how they get there.
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Wins are fun….no matter how they get there.
Someone should come up with a win fun theorem to decipher how fun each win really is.
Beating Nova in Philly is fun but maybe they’re not good and in fact, we hurt our seeding because we made their numbers worse
On a scale of 69-420, this win might just rate as a 187
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Someone should come up with a win fun theorem to decipher how fun each win really is.
Beating Nova in Philly is fun but maybe they’re not good and in fact, we hurt our seeding because we made their numbers worse
On a scale of 69-420, this win might just rate as a 187
I'll work on a NET like formula & post about fun rate.
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Someone should come up with a win fun theorem to decipher how fun each win really is.
Beating Nova in Philly is fun but maybe they’re not good and in fact, we hurt our seeding because we made their numbers worse
On a scale of 69-420, this win might just rate as a 187
Complaining “how” a team won to get to the elite eight is beyond me. When we won that game…….now that was a lot of fun!
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There were plenty of Wojo wins that were not fun.
Wins are fun….no matter how they get there.
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No. A win is a win.
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Someone should come up with a win fun theorem to decipher how fun each win really is.
Beating Nova in Philly is fun but maybe they’re not good and in fact, we hurt our seeding because we made their numbers worse
On a scale of 69-420, this win might just rate as a 187
They are good and beating anyone on the road is always fun. Don’t overthink things. Nova almost never loses on campus except when Shaka comes to town.
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There were plenty of Wojo wins that were not fun.
Refresh my memory.
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Here are a select few sprinkled over the Wojo seasons
62 - 57 over NJIT: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2014-11-24-marquette.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2014-11-24-marquette.html)
75 - 71 over IUPUI in OT: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2015-11-16-marquette.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2015-11-16-marquette.html)
86 - 83 over Eastern Illinois in OT: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2017-11-27-20-marquette.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2017-11-27-20-marquette.html)
66 - 62 over Robert Morris: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2019-11-23-14-marquette.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2019-11-23-14-marquette.html)
Refresh my memory.
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For me this is probably the most fun team/system/coaching dynamic since I started watching MUBB regularly in 86.
KO was fun to watch, but the basketball was pretty brutal.
Crean's teams with DWade, Diener, Jackson, etc were incredibly fun to watch, but the game coaching always kept me nervous unless they were up 20+. Crean would lose 2-3 games per year with bad in game decisions and that really removed the fun factor for me.
Brent's teams were good and fun but relying 100% on dysfunction as a leadership style has it's limits.
The previous coach took all the fun out of the game.
This team is fabulously flawed and makes up for it with system, determination, coaching, energy, and all sorts of intangibles that make the whole much greater than the sum of the parts... for the first time probably since the Diener/DWade era.
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For me this is probably the most fun team/system/coaching dynamic since I started watching MUBB regularly in 86.
KO was fun to watch, but the basketball was pretty brutal.
Crean's teams with DWade, Diener, Jackson, etc were incredibly fun to watch, but the game coaching always kept me nervous unless they were up 20+. Crean would lose 2-3 games per year with bad in game decisions and that really removed the fun factor for me.
Brent's teams were good and fun but relying 100% on dysfunction as a leadership style has it's limits.
The previous coach took all the fun out of the game.
This team is fabulously flawed and makes up for it with system, determination, coaching, energy, and all sorts of intangibles that make the whole much greater than the sum of the parts... for the first time probably since the Diener/DWade era.
I love the bolded! You nailed it. The rest of your post is great, but to me, the bolded is the best part.
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There are teams that win that aren't fun to watch. For neutrals, Wisconsin typically falls in that category. Many Virginia teams were that. Teams that turn games into root canals for the opponent, that don't have next level talent, that don't play exciting offense.
2013 was one such team. I loved the wins and the moments they provided, but it wasn't an aesthetically pleasing team nor a team fans outside our fanbase would make appointment television.
Joe McCann said it well to start this season. If you can't be good, at least be interesting. This year's team is both good and interesting. It has 2-3 NBA players. It's a great offensive team. Even in losses, they are always entertaining. Bully ball is fun for the bully, but not for the average viewer. That's why 2012 was more of a fun team than 2013. Both the 2009 & 2010 teams were also very fun. Totally different teams, but fun.
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There are teams that win that aren't fun to watch. For neutrals, Wisconsin typically falls in that category. Many Virginia teams were that. Teams that turn games into root canals for the opponent, that don't have next level talent, that don't play exciting offense.
2013 was one such team. I loved the wins and the moments they provided, but it wasn't an aesthetically pleasing team nor a team fans outside our fanbase would make appointment television.
Joe McCann said it well to start this season. If you can't be good, at least be interesting. This year's team is both good and interesting. It has 2-3 NBA players. It's a great offensive team. Even in losses, they are always entertaining. Bully ball is fun for the bully, but not for the average viewer. That's why 2012 was more of a fun team than 2013. Both the 2009 & 2010 teams were also very fun. Totally different teams, but fun.
2013 Marquette was a great run. Miracle minute against Davidson in a game where the offense was in quicksand and let the Wildcats dictate tempo. Ended with the egg against Syracuse, 39 points and simply dumbfounded by the zone.
During the course of the season, they had an 82-49 loss to Florida, 49-47 loss to UWGB, 49-48 home win against G’Town and a 70-51 loss to Louisville. Lots of root canals and a couple of whoopings
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I said years ago that I would be happy with any system that provided a real winning program, even it was Virginia or UW style. I still stand by that statement, but this is they style of play I had hoped would be the formula. Fun style of play is great, winning is better. Time will tell, but it sure looks like we may have a great style of play and winning on the national stage for years to come.
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2013 team had 3 NBA players.
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I love pressure defense. I love forcing turnovers. I love transition baskets. I love guards with length. I love timed cuts.
I really enjoyed FGCU's run a few years ago when they would be running pick and roll on the ball side with planned movement, picking, and cutting weakside. I see elements of that with MU now, which helps explain all of the layups.
Also see bits of Loyola under Moser, running action through the center.
I love players who finish. around the basket with either hand. Looking at you, OMax.
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tower
The best part is I do not think we have seen anywhere near of what the defense will be down the road, hopefully yet this season w will. I love when Shaka says the defense is not yet where he wants it to be. TAMU said a year ago about Shaka building a culture and they are now 1.5 seasons into building that foundation. I think the defense will continue to improve and dunk city will be one of the calling cards of the program.
On a side note, if Mitchell can show 50% of what he showed offensively on Saturday, this team is going to be a tough out for anyone they are playing. If the opposing team needs to guard Mitchell closer, we are going to see a lot more looks in the paint.
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I think next season, assuming the team stays essentially intact, that MU will be the bullies.
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tower
The best part is I do not think we have seen anywhere near of what the defense will be down the road, hopefully yet this season w will. I love when Shaka says the defense is not yet where he wants it to be. TAMU said a year ago about Shaka building a culture and they are now 1.5 seasons into building that foundation. I think the defense will continue to improve and dunk city will be one of the calling cards of the program.
On a side note, if Mitchell can show 50% of what he showed offensively on Saturday, this team is going to be a tough out for anyone they are playing. If the opposing team needs to guard Mitchell closer, we are going to see a lot more looks in the paint.
As good as this team is already, the future is even brighter. Beautiful!
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Snoop
I am going to enjoy this year, like I did last year, and think about the future in April. That said, I agree the future is very bright for the program. I appreciated every minute of last season because I believed it was the start of a successful program, this year the same holds true, only with a higher bar for success. Winning in the spring is the top priority, IMO. If that happens, the bar gets raise again next season.
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Is it Tuesday yet?
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2013 team had 3 NBA players.
Blue & Jamil got cups of coffee, Juan was the most successful but never played close to that here. This team has more NBA talent than 2013 did.
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Here are a select few sprinkled over the Wojo seasons
62 - 57 over NJIT: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2014-11-24-marquette.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2014-11-24-marquette.html)
75 - 71 over IUPUI in OT: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2015-11-16-marquette.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2015-11-16-marquette.html)
86 - 83 over Eastern Illinois in OT: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2017-11-27-20-marquette.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2017-11-27-20-marquette.html)
66 - 62 over Robert Morris: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2019-11-23-14-marquette.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2019-11-23-14-marquette.html)
4-0…..to me a lot more fun than a loss to UNO. Now that was not fun.
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Winning is winning, if you have a good/great program. Al's teams had a lot of wins that were not very entertaining, minus of a few defensive runs that changed the game. I was fine with that because they had an eccentric HC who was very entertaining to watch, a stacked team of talent and they won. Al's teams won ugly plenty of times, mostly by playing down to the competition.
I have fallen sucker to getting over jacked after a big win or writing off an ugly win, but it was because it was out desperation that the program had turned the corner. When we played Chicago State, which was not an entertaining win, I felt differently about the team/program than in previous years and the crappy win did not bother me. They looked to me to be a program on the rise and played an uninspired game. I hope that is the case. If so, the program is going in the right direction and not a one hit wonder.
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Playing the 2nd and 3rd weekends of the tournament is fun.
Wisconsin and Virginia and their fan bases really seemed to enjoy it….even if others didn’t care for their style.
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I guess I’m easy because I enjoyed:
++ Last season
++ A very long (3 months) stretch of 2018-19
++ A whole lot of 2016-17
++ Most of Buzz’s tenure
++ 2002-03
And yes, I’m very much enjoying this season - the hard-working attitude, the offensive flow, the pressure defense, etc.
But if we want to pick nits about winning teams, the way the offense just stopped for 6-7 minutes at Providence wasn’t fun to watch, being unable to grab rebounds isn’t fun to watch, etc.
But again, I really like this team, it is usually a lot of fun to watch, and I love the direction the program is taking.
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I think next season, assuming the team stays essentially intact, that MU will be the bullies.
I agree and hope we’re right!
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I still have the t shirt.
Can you upload a photo? I want to get it replicated
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As long as you brought up Wojo bad losses - how about Omaha, Belmont, and 5 losses to Depaul
4-0…..to me a lot more fun than a loss to UNO. Now that was not fun.
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As long as you brought up Wojo bad losses - how about Omaha, Belmont, and 5 losses to Depaul
Omaha=UNO.
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Can you upload a photo? I want to get it replicated
Sorry it’s wrinkled, it was in the laundry.
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Sorry it’s wrinkled, it was in the laundry.
I think I’ve still got mine too. Still remember running down Wisconsin Ave
PS - you need to remove the laundry promptly after the drying cycle has completed!!
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qMa77NSCWK8
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https://theathletic.com/4052114/2023/01/03/marquette-shaka-smart-tyler-kolek/
For those of you subscribing to the Athletic, an article about how much fun the MU offense is and why.
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https://theathletic.com/4052114/2023/01/03/marquette-shaka-smart-tyler-kolek/
For those of you subscribing to the Athletic, an article about how much fun the MU offense is and why.
Pretty nice article explaining the nuances of the offense. Good read.
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Maybe a hot take, but Rowsey shot better then Howard and ran the point 1000 times better in my opinion.
Howard just volume shot and people love numbers
you make it sound like MH was a street chump that did nothing but cherry pick and launch. The guy was a 1st team All American and runner-up national POY. I loved the two DWade seasons, but Howard was a lot of fun to watch. Ed Cooley would agree!
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Yes! The geek’up factor is BACK!! I feel a renewed excitement for our MU WARRIORS that we haven’t had in A WHILE!! I mean, we’ve always tried to be guardedly optimistic with moments of geekdom, but this time I feel an extended real sense; now we EXPECT to win!
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NM
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Was going to post this in the Tyler Kolek assist thread but that has inevitably degenerated into a pissing match about the announcers. So I thought I’d post it here as it is pretty fun. Shaka has these guys fully bought into what he is selling.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKUadsBeZZc
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Yes! The geek’up factor is BACK!! I feel a renewed excitement for our MU WARRIORS that we haven’t had in A WHILE!! I mean, we’ve always tried to be guardedly optimistic with moments of geekdom, but this time I feel an extended real sense; now we EXPECT to win!
10 out of 10
Good choice of words and great observation of the current state of Warrior basketball. Most importantly it shows you know ball, hey?
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10 out of 10
Good choice of words and great observation of the current state of Warrior basketball. Most importantly it shows you know ball, hey?
Knows ball because he can sense there is excitement around the program? Hell of a standard to determine whether someone knows ball or not.
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Well, da udder pseudo experts around here don't no stink, hey?
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Well, da udder pseudo experts around here don't no stink, hey?
Trade Giannis
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Yeah Petrocelli, #12 isn't worth a couple of game worn Bikes too, aina?
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Yeah Petrocelli, #12 isn't worth a couple of game worn Bikes too, aina?
No, you can get multiple players and draft picks for him from a desperate team and find success pretty quickly without him. Of course, that’s football, not basketball
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Right back at ya with #34, aina?
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Right back at ya with #34, aina?
In the NBA? Trading a generational talent that you build around is different than the NFL where QBs like Matthew Stafford and Nick Foles win Super Bowls. Ball knowers know this, aina?
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An NBA player at his peak has way more relative value than an NFL quarterback.
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Was going to post this in the Tyler Kolek assist thread but that has inevitably degenerated into a pissing match about the announcers. So I thought I’d post it here as it is pretty fun. Shaka has these guys fully bought into what he is selling.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKUadsBeZZc
I thought Ben Steele was the only person in the room until the other guy asked a question. TK is highly intelligent with thoughtful answers.
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Easier to build a basketball team. 5 playas vs 22, aina?
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Easier to build a basketball team. 5 playas vs 22, aina?
In pure, quantitative terms sure. But in qualitative terms no way. When one of the five has to be a legit super-star, and one or two of the others has to be All Star caliber, it is a lot harder. Especially these days when you are drafting very young players and projecting where they are going to be in four or five years when they hit the beginning of their peak.
NFL teams are usually made up of a handful of very good players, a bunch of good players, and the rest is all replacement level. A decent GM armed with draft picks can build a roster that competes immediately in a relatively short period of time. This year is a great example of that. Five of the top six seeds in the NFC did not make the playoffs two seasons ago (Eagles, Niners, Vikings, Cowboys, Giants). It could be six out of seven if the Lions get in today. In the AFC, you have three (Bengals, Jaguars, Chargers) and likely four (Patriots or Dolphins) in the same boat.
Tell me when something like that has ever happened in the NBA.
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Was going to post this in the Tyler Kolek assist thread but that has inevitably degenerated into a pissing match about the announcers. So I thought I’d post it here as it is pretty fun. Shaka has these guys fully bought into what he is selling.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKUadsBeZZc
Very impressive post-game presser for Kolek. He sounds like a coach, except for fewer cliche answers than the typical coach. I'm not sure if he's ever been asked if he'd want to coach one day, but I'd be interested in his answer.
I thought Ben Steele was the only person in the room until the other guy asked a question. TK is highly intelligent with thoughtful answers.
This often happens in situations in which a major-college or pro team is covered by only one large publication. Ben does a nice job and we Marquette fans are lucky he's on the beat; he asked some good questions and was rewarded with good answers from Kolek.
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Trade Giannis
I mean trading Lew worked out for the Bucks...
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Was going to post this in the Tyler Kolek assist thread but that has inevitably degenerated into a pissing match about the announcers. So I thought I’d post it here as it is pretty fun. Shaka has these guys fully bought into what he is selling.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKUadsBeZZc
TK already sounds like a coach. There’s no doubt that he will be a head coach some day when he’s done playing.
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TK already sounds like a coach. There’s no doubt that he will be a head coach some day when he’s done playing.
Gym rat
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bias
Why rocket knows ball is because he was not on here bitching about the Chicago State game or crying over the Badger loss. The number of scoopers that micromanage the progress is amazing. The excitement over the program is real, but there are many that will be ready to micromanage a slump and compare the slump to past seasons. This program is in the best hands since the Al era, IMO.
Shaka is building a program that the team does expect to win and the fans are starting to get it. Equally as important, the fans that know ball are starting to understand what the program is all about. Knowing you can play very good defense and the opponent scoring a crazy end of shot clock basket is part of understanding the game. Knowing that you can shoot 2-14 from the three in a half and you still got 14 open three looks. This is understanding the game, the identity of the program and supporting it.
For most of the post Al era many fans have chosen an underdog player to back because they felt it that player evolved it would make them look smart. The program has had more underdog players than dudes for nearly fifty years and that it why there has been hit or miss success. I don't want to pull for an underdog just to have a chance at looking smart. I want to back a program that might have an underdog or two players, but they play a role in a system.
IMO, many MU fans have accepted being mediocre and hoping for a miracle. Shaka has changed that narrative and hopefully the mopes follow. My guess is there will always be mopes out there hoping that their Theo John, Trevor Powell, Joe Nathan, Greg Elliott or pick a name will be SOTG on scoop and can say look at my guy. For me, I want a program that expects to win, not hopes to win.
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Goose, I'm expecting a Warrior victory on Wednesday, aina?
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TK already sounds like a coach. There’s no doubt that he will be a head coach some day when he’s done playing.
That Golden Break Podcast with Tyler was a great listen. Surprised that topic didn't get more commentary. Here is a link to that Podcast for those who may have missed the topic:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Cbpf7cFY9o08yy22aY16I?si=82dbb3951a0d42b6
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Doc,
Are you pulling for Keeyan to be the SOTG or just going to be happy with a win?
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W is all that mattas. Oh, and a rankin' in the Top 25 in January, hey?
Kolek 'em
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Ive been pretty direct in my other posts in the next 5 game threads. Most people wont agree with what I'm about to say but I fully believe in this time.
This team has a great shot to be a final four team. I wouldn't guarantee it but I think when the regular season is over anything short of an elite 8 would be disappointing. Imo this team is the best team in the Big East and we should be 6-0 in conference if not for a meltdown up 10 in the final 4 minutes at providence. In the end I do believe we will win the Big East Conference.
Again, this is not your Steve Wojo coached team that we have our guard up for because of the previous 7 years. This team has top 10 talent, snipers from 3 and recruits that otherwise would be at Texas right now at a top 5 program. The lack of an inside presence is concerning but guard play should be able to make up for that. The next 3 games will go pretty far in seeing whether or not I am right. I believe we go 2-1 losing to Xavier by a small margin but wouldn't be shocked if we won.
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Sorry, but there is no way I would label a mere Sweet 16 appearance from this team a disappointment. I think that is wildly optimistic.
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If this team made it to the S16 I would be doing cartwheels down Wisconsin Ave..
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Ive been pretty direct in my other posts in the next 5 game threads. Most people wont agree with what I'm about to say but I fully believe in this time.
This team has a great shot to be a final four team. I wouldn't guarantee it but I think when the regular season is over anything short of an elite 8 would be disappointing. Imo this team is the best team in the Big East and we should be 6-0 in conference if not for a meltdown up 10 in the final 4 minutes at providence. In the end I do believe we will win the Big East Conference.
Again, this is not your Steve Wojo coached team that we have our guard up for because of the previous 7 years. This team has top 10 talent, snipers from 3 and recruits that otherwise would be at Texas right now at a top 5 program. The lack of an inside presence is concerning but guard play should be able to make up for that. The next 3 games will go pretty far in seeing whether or not I am right. I believe we go 2-1 losing to Xavier by a small margin but wouldn't be shocked if we won.
I do not agree with you, but I am going to sit back and enjoy the optimism.
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If this team made it to the S16 I would be doing cartwheels down Wisconsin Ave..
Make sure you are current with your medical insurance first. Probably life insurance too if you are going to do this in traffic.
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Snoop
Sadly, this body was not capable of cartwheels 45 years ago and definitely not in its current state.
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Snoop
Sadly, this body was not capable of cartwheels 45 years ago and definitely not in its current state.
You saying you should change your name to Moose?
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Pretty sure we can all streak freewilly down the Ave. to Lake Michigan, doe, aina?
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Pretty sure we can all streak freewilly down the Ave. to Lake Michigan, doe, aina?
Please don't.
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Ive been pretty direct in my other posts in the next 5 game threads. Most people wont agree with what I'm about to say but I fully believe in this time.
This team has a great shot to be a final four team. I wouldn't guarantee it but I think when the regular season is over anything short of an elite 8 would be disappointing. Imo this team is the best team in the Big East and we should be 6-0 in conference if not for a meltdown up 10 in the final 4 minutes at providence. In the end I do believe we will win the Big East Conference.
Again, this is not your Steve Wojo coached team that we have our guard up for because of the previous 7 years. This team has top 10 talent, snipers from 3 and recruits that otherwise would be at Texas right now at a top 5 program. The lack of an inside presence is concerning but guard play should be able to make up for that. The next 3 games will go pretty far in seeing whether or not I am right. I believe we go 2-1 losing to Xavier by a small margin but wouldn't be shocked if we won.
it is nice to be so optimist before the next three games.
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Goose - the Badger loss was a bad loss.... :P
bias
Why rocket knows ball is because he was not on here bitching about the Chicago State game or crying over the Badger loss. The number of scoopers that micromanage the progress is amazing. The excitement over the program is real, but there are many that will be ready to micromanage a slump and compare the slump to past seasons. This program is in the best hands since the Al era, IMO.
Shaka is building a program that the team does expect to win and the fans are starting to get it. Equally as important, the fans that know ball are starting to understand what the program is all about. Knowing you can play very good defense and the opponent scoring a crazy end of shot clock basket is part of understanding the game. Knowing that you can shoot 2-14 from the three in a half and you still got 14 open three looks. This is understanding the game, the identity of the program and supporting it.
For most of the post Al era many fans have chosen an underdog player to back because they felt it that player evolved it would make them look smart. The program has had more underdog players than dudes for nearly fifty years and that it why there has been hit or miss success. I don't want to pull for an underdog just to have a chance at looking smart. I want to back a program that might have an underdog or two players, but they play a role in a system.
IMO, many MU fans have accepted being mediocre and hoping for a miracle. Shaka has changed that narrative and hopefully the mopes follow. My guess is there will always be mopes out there hoping that their Theo John, Trevor Powell, Joe Nathan, Greg Elliott or pick a name will be SOTG on scoop and can say look at my guy. For me, I want a program that expects to win, not hopes to win.
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That Golden Break Podcast with Tyler was a great listen. Surprised that topic didn't get more commentary. Here is a link to that Podcast for those who may have missed the topic:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Cbpf7cFY9o08yy22aY16I?si=82dbb3951a0d42b6
This was super….. thanks for the reminder! Kolek was a genuine find!
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Would be elated with a S16. My worry with this group is if there's a game where they're not forcing turnovers. That has covered up a lot on the defensive end.
That said I couldn't be happier with where they're at now, and the trajectory they're on.
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Goose - the Badger loss was a bad loss.... :P
Just some free advice, so do what you want with it. Try not to focus on one loss, this team has bigger fish to fry.
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When it’s all said and done, Wisconsin will be as close to a “bad” loss as this team will have this season. They’re not good.
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Just some free advice, so do what you want with it. Try not to focus on one loss, this team has bigger fish to fry.
Amen. Unless we lose to Georgetown in DC. ;D
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I thought Ben Steele was the only person in the room until the other guy asked a question. TK is highly intelligent with thoughtful answers.
I thought the same thing. Would have thought more people would be asking questions but Ben asked some good ones to keep t going a little. It was like a 60 minutes exclusive interview.
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I was trying to be funny to Goose.
But, you obviously did not grow up in town full of UW extension school graduates who claim they are Badger alums augmented by a plethora of Walmart Badger fans.
Just some free advice, so do what you want with it. Try not to focus on one loss, this team has bigger fish to fry.
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Always a good point. Those of us who do not live in Wisconsin don't have to live with the day in-day out Badger obsession.
I was trying to be funny to Goose.
But, you obviously did not grow up in town full of UW extension school graduates who claim they are Badger alums augmented by a plethora of Walmart Badger fans.
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I mean trading Lew worked out for the Bucks...
Not as well as it worked out for the Lakers.
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Good point tower and it’s something that a certain segment of the fan base sometimes forgets.
Always a good point. Those of us who do not live in Wisconsin don't have to live with the day in-day out Badger obsession.
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I live in WI, hate the Badger, but if MU wants to be a national program beating UW is not high on my list. Give me a win at Villanova, Baylor at home and hopefully other big wins later this season over beating Bucky. If MU is going to become what we hope they can become, then there are much bigger fish to fry. It used to mean something in recruiting locally and that has changed due to the major differences in style of play. Quite honesty, if a kid has MU and UW as final two choices, he probably is not a good fit for MU.
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I live in WI, hate the Badger, but if MU wants to be a national program beating UW is not high on my list. Give me a win at Villanova, Baylor at home and hopefully other big wins later this season over beating Bucky. If MU is going to become what we hope they can become, then there are much bigger fish to fry. It used to mean something in recruiting locally and that has changed due to the major differences in style of play. Quite honesty, if a kid has MU and UW as final two choices, he probably is not a good fit for MU.
This ^